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Rigged AF major
wtf, NAVI vs QBF, nice. Worst team in playoffs vs. second worst team in playoffs. make sense
2018-01-23 03:23
Canada Ayton 
100% agreed lmao
2018-01-23 03:24
watch qbf win with their similar map pools i'll fucking cry
2018-01-23 03:25
QBF gunna beat navi C9 and mouz and win the major
2018-01-23 03:25
2018-01-24 04:10
look how he selects carefully
2018-01-23 03:26
Germany VeryNiceGuy 
He also did it before... this stupid MingLee, probably rigged the whole draws Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-01-23 03:27
thats not nice at all... xd
2018-01-23 03:52
wtf one cover is white and other one is black, rigged?
2018-01-23 03:28
indeed, turner rigged all this shit
2018-01-23 03:44
Mongolia Chuluun 
Yeah that is a little odd...
2018-01-23 03:50
flusha | 
Lithuania jiffoe 
you got something there
2018-01-23 13:36
white: 3-2 standings black: 3-1 standings is it so hard to understand ???
2018-01-23 14:25
No its not like that, 3-1 teams play 3-1 teams, there is no match up with 3-1 team and 3-2 team. Both white and black covers had 3-1 team.
2018-01-23 17:36
Sweden Nokkeri 
Well, Fnatic is playing SK?
2018-01-23 18:12
thats true actually but now i am confused even more, why the hell was he choosing from two covers when there were two match ups left? and these two covers have different colours like wtf. Is that remaining one Sk gaming so Navi wont play them and then he choose white one because there is QBF, idk but its so fishy
2018-01-23 23:03
jdm64 | 
China agamir3 
infantino wannabe
2018-01-23 14:18
Germany VeryNiceGuy 
random draws are trash imo why not just use seeding again? Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-01-23 03:26
they were seeded...........
2018-01-23 03:28
+1 just brazilians crying because they wanted to play against QBF themselves
2018-01-23 03:30
Germany VeryNiceGuy 
really? my bad then sry Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-01-23 03:33
not good seeding, just 3-0 plays 3-2 teams and so on, rest is random
2018-01-23 06:41
New Zealand NewZealand 
not properly
2018-01-23 05:57
?? The two 3-0 teams drew the two worst 3-2 teams The best 3-1 team drew the remaining 3-2 team. The remaining 3-1 teams drew each other. It literally couldn't get any more perfect on paper. Results and standings aside, at this tournament based on performance: FaZe > G2 > SK > NaVi > FNC > QBF > mouz > C9 The best 4 teams avoided each other. The best 2 teams are on opposite sides of the bracket. If you look at the group stage, 6 of the top 8 teams in the world that attended the major qualified for the QF, the exceptions being the two Danish teams. It literally couldn't be a more perfect major on paper. People just love complaining for no reason.
2018-01-23 07:37
New Zealand NewZealand 
still randomness involved, groups would better fix the problem
2018-01-23 13:10
Luxembourg _hhh 
Honestly same, I feel like swiss is fine for challenger stage, but groups is better for legends stage
2018-01-23 18:02
We had FaZe, G2, NaVi and mouz as qualifiers. We had VP, BIG, North, Astralis as legends. I guarantee you if this was done with groups, we'd have ended with at least one overstacked group and at least one group with 4 shit teams, which would not have resulted with such a good play-off bracket as we have now. You'd have 2 bad teams qualifiying, a good team getting knocked out of supergroup, and then 2 good teams meeting early because they came second in the supergroup. Even if you say "oh scrap the legends thing and seed the groups on world rankings"- North, VP and Astralis are all top 10 teams, and you could still end up with a group like Astralis, VP, Liquid, BIG... and also a group like FaZe, C9, NaVi, SS. The only thing fairer than Swiss is Round Robin. The only compromise that makes sense time-wise is Swiss with BO3 for every X-2 team in an elimination game. Groups will never, ever be less random than Swiss.
2018-01-23 20:56
yeah i dont like draw too ffs, i wanted both faze and mouse go far because both are like top 4 now, Sk gaming vs Fnatic will be boring. if Cloud will step up with home crowd that can be nice match up but it can easily be very one sided
2018-01-23 03:26
Mous isn't top 4 by any stretch of the imagination. No idea how you come to this conclusion.
2018-01-23 17:58
lmao this is so true, hoped navi got sk or something.
2018-01-23 03:27
ANGE1 | 
World LichGod 
who the fuck cares what draw u get? if u wanna win major u have to win quaterfinal semifinal and then final no matter what opponent u get. Considering modern esport salaries, huge amount of money they get from sponsors and stickers i bet they dont give a fuck about prize since they get legend spot, so either top1 or who cares?
2018-01-23 03:27
I care, i want to watch the best cs possible in a major not a tier 2 match in a playoff
2018-01-23 06:00
i mean whats the difference between for example navi vs qbf or sk vs qbf, everyone says navi got the "easiest" opponent, but on the other hand everyone makes fun of navi how bad they are. so following this logic: qbf "shit" , navi "shit" = close game, on the other hand, sk "best, runskg, top1 any other shit like that" qbf: "shit" = ez game for sk... also wouldnt it be rigged if the best would ve got the "easiest" opponent? so many clueless ppl talking shit about the draw, but at the end everyone wants their teams the weakest opponents...
2018-01-23 13:45
Cuz one of those 2 gonna be in semi finals, peaunt brain.
2018-01-23 14:13
my gosh, so its rigged cuz not all the matchups have a worse team compared to the other? it would be rigged if it wouldnt be like this...
2018-01-23 14:17
Did i said it was rigged? I just wanted them to seed the foking matchs
2018-01-23 14:21
LoL. It was seeded. No brain detected
2018-01-23 17:26
2018-01-23 20:06
also in the previous majors envy/g2 got the hardest groups, no one gave a lil shit about , but after 3-4 majors, when they got a little easier way everyone loses his mind...
2018-01-23 14:20
Dude i'm not saying qbf are bad, they are legit, but you have to agree that they are the worse between those 8, and they have a chance to upset navi cuz navi is the second worse and if that happen will suck to watch SK destroying them in a semi final match of a major
2018-01-23 14:25
second worse. raped fnatic pick one
2018-01-23 20:28
2018-01-23 20:31
yeah, truth hurts
2018-01-23 20:33
OMEGALUL are you mad s1mple fangay?
2018-01-23 20:34
OMEGALUL thinks Fnatic better than Navi after navi raped them. No logic as expected
2018-01-23 20:34
2018-01-23 20:36
Would be so much better if mouz vs navi / faze vs qbf, and i'm not a faze fanboy btw.
2018-01-23 14:16
kNgV- | 
Eleague logos have different colors in that envelopes.It is 100% rigged.
2018-01-23 03:30
Brazil nozebr 
+1 100 % RIGGED
2018-01-23 03:34
are u ok mate? It was seeded and colors are seeds
2018-01-23 17:27
This draw system is just a joke: a guy mixing some envelopes, where he can previously know which team he´s going to draw on purpose. WTF is this?????
2018-01-23 03:29
Notice that the envelopes have the eleague logo on the front but they are colored differently (white, grey, black). This is hardly a random draw. Why not a bingo ball style machine?
2018-01-23 03:42
Bingo ball style machine should be used in all draws, no matter the sport. I did not notice the colours of the envelopes, that just adds more controversy about this nonsense draw.
2018-01-23 03:53
Idiot? Its seeded
2018-01-23 17:28
Faggot go watch the draws. The cards within EACH seed group are coloured differently.
2018-01-24 10:11
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
the draws are rly suspicious lmao
2018-01-23 03:29
Denmark Xipingu 
Draws doesn't fucking matter ffs, use your brain. If a team supposedly is to be #1 in the world for winning the major, or at least climb the rankings faster than a spastic monkey on speed, they have to be able to beat ALL teams in a playoff session. Otherwise, they don't deserve to win. Never seen this amount of bs whine over draws, rigged or not.
2018-01-23 03:29
Brazil rlh3 
dude people are crying too much, but this is something that can actually happen in any sports? sometimes the #3 team can beat up the #1 team just to go ahead and lose to the #5.. this doesn't mean that #5 could beat #1.. look at PGL major, Astralis 2-0'd SK, by that time they were totally focused on beating SK and so they did, on the semis they went to lose to Gambit.. can you assume that Gambit could have beaten SK? sometimes the draws DO matter.. that`s why most sports uses seeding.
2018-01-23 03:43
Denmark Xipingu 
Doesn't matter. If you want to win, you have to be ready for any team. That's the point. If draws matter to a team and you are fearing some opponent, I think it stands to reason that you aren't entirely confident in yourself, and as thus if you lose... You really only defeated yourself. We have seen wonders and unexpected wins in playoffs at almost every major, and that is a product of people overcoming their fears. You think Dreamhack for example just mashes random bullshit lines into their intros? There is a reason. Only true champions can overcome their fears, being deservant of #1.
2018-01-23 13:37
ofc the draw matters, only an idiot would say otherwise
2018-01-23 03:44
Denmark Xipingu 
Devoid of logic I see.
2018-01-23 13:34
yes you are
2018-01-23 17:19
Denmark Xipingu 
Weak comeback.
2018-01-23 17:55
Weak comeback.
2018-01-23 18:11
Denmark Xipingu 
Weak comeback.
2018-01-23 18:13
Weak comeback.
2018-01-24 03:51
Denmark Xipingu 
Weak comeback to the weak comeback you made before which is also a weak comeback because weak comeback. Weak comeback.
2018-01-24 15:47
Weakest comeback yet.
2018-01-24 16:45
Denmark Xipingu 
That was an even weaker comeback.
2018-01-24 19:13
>they have to be able to beat ALL teams in a playoff session. thats straight up bullshit
2018-01-23 03:46
Denmark Xipingu 
No, that is straight up truth. If they cannot handle whoever they get, they do not deserve #1. It shouldn't matter what team they face. This is true to all sports. Who are you to call yourself the world's greatest team, if you fear an opponent?
2018-01-23 13:34
Bangladesh thug_doctor 
Navi is the best match for QB because g2,sk,c9,fnatic are stronger than navi. the match will be competitive
2018-01-23 03:29
Poland wiktorex 
fnatic ofc
2018-01-23 13:40
fnatic are stronger than navi fnatic get raped by navi pick one
2018-01-23 17:35
yea random draws suck. qbf and navi could be the worst teams here
2018-01-23 03:30
paz | 
Turkey VpolatTR 
im telling you all matches rigged since first draw
2018-01-23 03:31
Australia Ohnorepo 
You want to be number 1? You have to beat all teams. Also calling QBF the worst team in the major makes no sense. They seem fucking solid at the moment.
2018-01-23 03:35
what if you dont want to be number 1?
2018-01-23 03:54
Australia Ohnorepo 
Then why compete?
2018-01-23 05:53
2018-01-23 06:24
It could have been SK vs QBF or Faze vs QBF rofl stop crying for once
2018-01-23 03:38
2018-01-23 03:46
paz | 
Turkey VpolatTR 
''i wonder why'' he said in a suspicious way ''could it be rigged as fuck ?'' asked himself in a full of anger
2018-01-23 14:38
Draws are perfect. Navi sk g2 faze semifinals nice!
2018-01-23 03:50
I think C9 will pass to the semifinals.
2018-01-23 03:55
but navi>sk?
2018-01-23 03:59
Nice joke NA
2018-01-23 06:01
Switzerland sovereiign 
imagine if QBF wins :D
2018-01-23 06:25
Canada Adipocere 
Yeah the black and white shit is definitely a problem, there is literally no reason for them to do that unless they are trying to fix 1 on 1 matches which looks possible.
2018-01-23 06:32
Canada Adipocere 
If anything it would only make the process harder since they would have to print different colour copies, sketch as hell
2018-01-23 06:33
Canada Adipocere 
Another thing to think about is that they want the easiest matchups for the NA teams so they have a chance to get to Boston so ELEAGUE sells more tickets (they havnt sold out) Which makes this point null since C9 got some shitty matchups same with LULquid
2018-01-23 06:35
United States STERBENVII 
Actually, Na'Vi looked alright. The bracket is pretty balanced. FaZe vs. Mouz, Na'Vi vs. QBF G2 vs. C9, SK vs. FNC I mean, I know that G2's side of the bracket is harder, but not that much harder in my eyes. People are heavily underestimating Na'Vi because of their inconsistency, which was due to their mentality issues.
2018-01-23 06:38
+1, but Na`Vi were a bit lucky with draws during whole tournament anyway. :P
2018-01-23 14:28
G2 was more lucky with draws whole tournament than Navi except right now
2018-01-23 17:36
G2 has traditionally always had a hard time vs C9 tho, Think G2 is better but it wouldn't suprise me if they lose the bo3 to C9.
2018-01-23 18:01
2018-01-23 18:10
2018-01-23 18:38
Poland wiktorex 
nice joke
2018-01-23 13:41
Finland Nikkoton 
QBF gonna beat navi but mouz will major
2018-01-23 17:27
United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Give me two solid reasons why they would rig the major. Stupid thread
2018-01-23 18:11
Finland Smoonah 
rigged just like russia deaded game, no updates shit updates, hacker game deded major, deaded dududududu
2018-01-23 20:08
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