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G2 vs C9 Comparison
United States poocrafter2 
I keep seeing people talk about how G2 is in "major" form, how they're going to stomp C9 because they are doing so good right now, C9 is doing terrible they have no chance. For you consideration I did the calculation of the average rating for the 5 players in their 3 most recent matches. Here they are Autimatic: 1.41 Rush: 1.49 Tarik: 1.04 Stewie: 1.55 Skadoodle: 1.35 NBK: 1.50 Apex: 1.04 KennyS: 1.37 Shox: 1.31 Bodyy: 1.30 As you can see C9 is clearly in much greater form right now.
2018-01-24 09:20
#1
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Bangladesh thug_doctor 
c9 ESEA puggers
2018-01-24 09:22
#2
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Netherlands _Verywhiteguy_ 
#C9WIN
2018-01-24 09:24
#32
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
nope
2018-01-24 10:57
#48
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Lithuania Sealll 
nope
2018-01-24 11:33
nope
2018-01-24 14:14
Nip in 2018 C9win Pick one
2018-01-24 14:33
I pick 0
2018-01-26 15:49
#122
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Netherlands merco 
+1
2018-01-26 15:42
+1
2018-01-26 15:42
#3
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
cya9
2018-01-24 09:24
#4
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Netherlands _Verywhiteguy_ 
Go back 2 France G2
2018-01-24 09:26
#9
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
camp9
2018-01-24 09:29
#28
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
Clown 9 is gonna get rekt once again
2018-01-24 10:55
#99
Lekr0 | 
Serbia Jinxxcs 
Garbage2
2018-01-24 23:50
LUL
2018-01-24 09:27
Why lol?
2018-01-24 09:28
cause c9 will get dicked on by G2
2018-01-24 14:07
Stfu Onlinetares
2018-01-24 14:34
Let's wait and see
2018-01-24 23:48
the advantage c9 fans have in these type of comments is that g2 fans can't say go back to us c9 cause they are already in us lol
2018-01-24 09:28
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United States C9top1 
C9 is the best In the world so easy for us
2018-01-24 09:29
#30
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
lul
2018-01-24 10:56
-999999
2018-01-24 10:58
#37
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
so many clown9 fans gl for friday but I think g2 will smash them again
2018-01-24 10:59
Than you are one of the many delusional fucks
2018-01-24 11:01
#39
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
16-8
2018-01-24 11:02
Eleague premier 2017
2018-01-24 11:02
#42
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
Back when g2 wasn't prepared
2018-01-24 11:03
Back when c9 had their roster for 2 months, and g2 just won Malmo
2018-01-24 11:04
#71
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Belgium motiky_waty 
LOL 2017 G2 win ESLProLeagueS5, DreamHack Master Malmo & DH Tour C9 win DH Denver LULLLLL G2 win versus C9.
2018-01-24 14:16
LUUL c9 actualy went to tourneys in the last 3 months
2018-01-24 14:18
2-0
2018-01-24 11:02
#43
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
Sep 8th - Oct 13th 2017
2018-01-24 11:03
Back when c9 had their roster for 2 months, and g2 just won Malmo
2018-01-24 11:23
#58
shox | 
France Kabby 
Then* ffs isn't english your first language ?
2018-01-24 12:22
I have dutch autocorrect
2018-01-24 13:35
#88
shox | 
France Kabby 
My bad I swear I saw you with a US flag lol sorry
2018-01-24 16:23
Its ok I am on my pc now, not my mobile so it should be better now
2018-01-24 16:24
You're the deluded fuck tbh. C9's skill ceiling is nowhere near G2's if their players go off. If C9 manages to win, then it's because G2 didn't find their form. Shox in peak form alone is enough to shit on C9. And he still has KennyS and NBK to back him up. And even bodyy stepped up during the group stage. C9 is at a major disadvantage here, a crowd alone won't be enough to help them. Be happy they even got legend after being 0-2. It could've been over already.
2018-01-25 00:56
#11
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Poland Deeuh 
0/8
2018-01-24 09:30
First off I'm not insulting G2 so no need to be butt hurt. Secondly why do you feel the need to comment that. Maybe give an actual opinion or insightful thought
2018-01-24 09:32
#13
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Poland Deeuh 
I am not butthurt, just saying thats a bad bait. If you really believe in what you wrote, you are gonna be disappointed
2018-01-24 09:52
It's not a bait. Do you think 1.50 is bigger than 1.55? That 1.31 and 1.30 are bigger than 1.49 and 1.41? On paper C9 is in better form than "major" form G2. If you really believe in what you wrote, you are gonna be disappointed. Me on the other hand I am a fan of both G2 and C9 and will be happy either way where as you will either be excited or extremely disappointed. Don't argue with math man it rules the world.
2018-01-24 10:13
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Poland Deeuh 
XDDD if you want to get into maths go and calculate the winratio G2 has 6 games won out of 6 C9 has 6 games won out of 8 So clearly G2 is better
2018-01-24 10:34
Now you're just getting into random shit. I'm using actual important numbers that designate ability.
2018-01-24 10:44
#23
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Poland Deeuh 
I guess theres no point in talking to a retard like you
2018-01-24 10:46
How am I retarded?
2018-01-24 10:47
You clearly lack basic number and word comprehension abilities. So if any one were retarded it would in fact be you, but I am not a child who resorts to 3rd grade insults to try and save face when I'm losing an argument so I'll say neither of us are retarded, but you are clearly lacking in mental capability.
2018-01-24 10:49
#26
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Poland Deeuh 
Seriously 0/8
2018-01-24 10:51
#50
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United States Jammin800k 
How is winrate not an important stat also why do the last 3 games matter at all? Why not compare specific players over their recent LAN performances by role and make an actual argument besides the average player ratings of 3 LAN bo1s .
2018-01-24 11:40
If you bothered to read the beginning of the post you would see me say "I keep seeing people talk about how G2 is in "major" form, how they're going to stomp C9 because they are doing so good right now, C9 is doing terrible they have no chance." I personally don't believe that 3 bo1's are the ultimate predictor of who's better. But I made this to get all those idiots to shut up. If you want me to look at recent LAN performances then I can give some quick numbers. Eleague Premier 2017 C9 beat G2 2-0 in a BO3 on Cobble 16-12 and Inferno 16-8. C9 already ahead. LAN placings in last 3 months C9: 5-6th ECS 3-4th IEM Oakland 1st IBP Masters 1st Dreamhack Denver 3-4th Eleague Premier G2: 5th Blast Pro Series 9-10th IEM Oakland 3rd Epicenter 5-8th Eleague Premier
2018-01-24 12:27
#68
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United States F1ourish 
The real question is will SK beat whoever wins that match
2018-01-24 14:12
IF G2 wins odds are SK doesn't beat them. IF C9 wins odds are SK does beat them. So SK is probably really rooting for C9 right now
2018-01-24 23:49
Stew>Shox Tim>Bodyy Tarik>Apex Rush>NBK Skadoodle>KennyS
2018-01-24 10:17
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Netherlands Deji 
0/8
2018-01-24 10:18
Close. Stew>NBK RUSH>>Shox Autimatic>>Bodyy Tarik=Apex Skadoodle<KennyS
2018-01-24 10:46
#36
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
RUSH>>Shox omegaLUL
2018-01-24 10:58
#51
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United States Jammin800k 
+5
2018-01-24 11:41
Based on rating at the major so far yes he is. In my opinion, I would actually say Shox>Rush, but I'm not using bias I'm using statistics
2018-01-24 12:19
#16
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Serbia VLDN1337 
difference between them is that G2 had to play 3 matches to get to the quarters and c9 5
2018-01-24 10:17
I said in the post that I'm looking at their 3 most recent matches. The 3 that G2 won, and the 3 that C9 won.
2018-01-24 10:45
#69
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Serbia VLDN1337 
c9 played vp asstralis and vega so no
2018-01-24 14:13
G2 played QBF(omegalol) Liquid(with coach) and the only good team they beat was Cloud9 who had a bad start lol. Cloud9 is gonna smash those scrubs
2018-01-24 14:28
#85
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Serbia VLDN1337 
QBF omegalol? they made it to playoffs XD
2018-01-24 16:00
bo1 omegalol
2018-01-24 16:36
NBK > Stewie Rush < shox Autimatic > bodyy (sometimes) Tarik < apEX kennyS > Skadoodle
2018-01-24 10:52
#31
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
+1
2018-01-24 10:56
Agree on everyone except bodyy He is better than autimatic
2018-01-24 11:32
LOL
2018-01-24 12:20
He is? Autimatic = overrated tier2 "star player" bodyy = tier 1 support player
2018-01-26 01:39
NBK (G2's worst player) is better than Stewie (C9's best player)??? LOL
2018-01-24 12:01
Statistically NBK is the best player on G2 right now.
2018-01-24 12:20
I dont care about statistics.. nbk is simply g2's worst player and everyone with half a brain thinks the same.
2018-01-24 14:06
Bodyy is their worst player across any event you look at. NBK is playing really well at the major so far.
2018-01-24 23:48
#110
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United States Jammin800k 
Bodyy is less talented for sure and apex is verrry random i think NBK eclipses him at times obv not better than shox or kenny
2018-01-25 02:42
you watch nbk performance in 2018?
2018-01-24 12:36
#115
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Australia Lomcharton 
Tarik is C9's best player, Bodyy is G2's worst player get ur facts right before you talk
2018-01-25 11:34
Not based on those numbers
2018-01-24 12:20
#34
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
Poor NA guys trying to forget the 16-8 :')
2018-01-24 10:58
Name checks out
2018-01-24 11:27
Poor french/g2 fans forget about the easy 2-0 in EL premier
2018-01-24 14:29
#87
SmithZz | 
France Eter49 
4 months ago OmegaLUL
2018-01-24 16:13
easiest 2-0 of c9's life omegalol
2018-01-24 16:36
#49
nitr0 | 
Canada Surzz 
if this is the best argument to say that c9 will beat g2, that is a pathetic attempt. individual stats being better doesn't mean much when this is a team game. it depends which team plays better as a team.
2018-01-24 11:33
This isn't the best argument, but as I've said to multiple people. People keep talking about how the G2 players are in better form well they clearly aren't. I realize it's a team game, but look at Faze, look at C9, look at 2015 fnatic. What do they have in common. They play off individual ability with the ability to fall back on some tactics and that wins them games.
2018-01-24 12:30
you should take all the minor matches instead of only the 3 matches c9 won. in that case: Autimatic: 1.22 Rush: 1.29 Tarik: 1.17 Stewie2k: 1.23 Skadoodle: 1.15 So based on your logic G2 is better in form so G2 has to be the better team, however this logic is stupid since individual stats have barely anything to do with how they will perform 3 days later I still think G2 will win convincingly though
2018-01-24 11:58
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United Kingdom jMz86 
That's individual ratings.... Why not use the Team ratings?? Oh that's right because it's not in favour of C9 lol hltv.org/stats/teams?event=3247 G2: 1.29 C9: 1.18 p.s. G2 have all ready won a map very convincingly against C9. Not to mention the Veto is in their favour, They have first ban and first map pick. C9 will probably ban nuke so cobble, overpass and cache will be left open.
2018-01-24 12:33
You're looking at games C9 lost. The whole point of me even writing this was people saying that G2 were in better form. After those 2 loses, C9 stepped up massively and performed incredibly, that's the form they are in right now. How about I go and look at Faze losing to Vega and say they are clearly worse than C9 and G2 because those teams beat Vega
2018-01-24 12:32
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United Kingdom jMz86 
What do you mean I am looking at games C9 lost?? I linked you team ratings for the event so far.....the only loss I mentioned was their one to G2... which is 100% relevant to my point. Having 2 loses is proof enough, (particularly when one of them is to team you are comparing them to) shows that G2 are in better form than C9 as they haven't lost. You can't just pick and choose which maps to use for form... in that case if we are talking about past 3 months form, I'll just disregard all of G2's loses and call them the best in form team.... like seriously...
2018-01-24 12:45
By your logic I can suddenly throw in C9 beating G2 at Eleague Premier as the ultimate proof they are better since it was a BO3. C9 stepped up performance significantly after their 2 losses. That's why I only looked at the matches both teams won for comparison
2018-01-24 23:47
#112
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United Kingdom jMz86 
You were talking about current form.. which I would take as the current tournament, as I said you can't just disregard their losses at the tournament and say they don't count because they've won a couple of games. Not to mention that Eleague Premier was like 3 months ago.
2018-01-25 11:23
#111
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United States Jammin800k 
You cant just pick wins tho. Simply based on the fact that g2 only had to play 3 games because they won all of them shows that g2 is in a better form. Obviously if we were comparing players forms coming into a tournament we would use the average from the last 3 months wins and losses included so why would you not do that same thing here?
2018-01-25 02:44
#113
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United Kingdom jMz86 
I can feel the bias pouring out this guy lol. If I honestly thought C9 would win this bo3 I'd say so and I am not saying that they can't because C9 have great potential (If any team were to knock out G2 I'd prefer it to be C9 because I actually like them). I just still think a C9 win would be an upset and G2 are favoured to win it.
2018-01-25 11:27
#118
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United States Jammin800k 
I agree with every part of that +1
2018-01-26 02:15
#73
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Malaysia K2tan 
G2> c9 all day long
2018-01-24 14:21
#74
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Austria lisossomos 
0/8 G2 miles ahead
2018-01-24 14:23
g2 is like every french team at major: if they wake up on fire = ez win if they wake up on a bad day = ez c9 everything else ppl say is bullshit lol
2018-01-24 14:30
+1
2018-01-24 14:34
Kennys>>>skadoodle Apex=rush Shox=stewie2k NBK<Autimatic Body<Tarik
2018-01-24 17:04
#104
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
r u baitin? good bait mate.
2018-01-25 01:03
Shitty B8
2018-01-24 23:54
#102
shox | 
France kleps0 
IF G2 LOSE I WILL SHAVE MY HEAD
2018-01-25 01:01
IF G2 LOSE I WILL SHAVE MY HEAD
2018-01-25 01:07
#102
shox | 
France kleps0 
EZ 4 G2
2018-01-25 01:01
yea individual players with better stats over couple days will win LUL
2018-01-25 01:08
C9 is certainly the team with better long term potential. Stew, Auti, Tarik and Rush are all potential top 20 players in 2018. Average age is like 20 on those four. I don't know that this is their year. I do know that if the core of this roster stays together they are going to be extremely dangerous for a long time. G2 is older and has more experience across the line plus at this point are more proven. This leads to me thinking they'll have an edge. Regardless both teams are kind of peaking now. It's going to be a fun series. 60/40 G2. There is also the Skadoodle element. He's no match for Kenny when it comes to skill but it's not always about that. Sometimes in sports especially with closely matched teams it comes down to who wants it more. Still though 60/40 G2.
2018-01-25 01:34
#114
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Europe RBN_FRT 
C9 have the crowd G2 have shoxieJESUS
2018-01-25 11:34
#116
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North America Foxaika 
I think it's going to be a good matchup. Both teams have performed well overall (albeit with C9 facing a far rougher route to the playoffs), and both have explosive potential. There's a reason this matchup is seemingly the most talked about. It's by far the most interesting and compelling matchup if both teams show up. I'm looking forward to it. I want C9 to win, but if everything goes as it ought to, it's going to be the best match of the day.
2018-01-25 11:45
g2 won all matches, i think they can win this match
2018-01-26 02:21
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