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ZYWOO REFUSES $15K A MONTH
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United States cananigfrag 
clips.twitch.tv/CorrectFunAdminKippa “We didn't think about ZywOo. He had an offer from EnVy with 15k per month and he didn't accept this. Something is wrong with him. I don't believe that he has to finish school.“
2018-01-31 14:57
CS is dead game. ZywOo is smart and rather finish the school.
2018-01-31 15:00
delusional
2018-01-31 15:01
Cs is def going to last 4-5 more years. LMAO Also if we want to talk about word "delusional" just check your nick real quick.
2018-01-31 15:03
He knows that playing under happy is going to ruin his career because happy is by far the worst igl
2018-01-31 15:05
+1
2018-01-31 15:06
Nah he's the best IGL when he works* When he don't want to work he sucks...
2018-01-31 15:19
so he didn't work last 2,5 years,right mate :>
2018-01-31 15:43
#108
SileNt | 
United States rad1ey 
thoorin?
2018-01-31 15:47
hahaha cant believe people are using the same emoji like thorin ffs
2018-01-31 16:17
imagine being so beta you are cucked out of using a digital emote because someone you don't like on the internet uses it
2018-01-31 16:21
#199
ISSAA | 
Japan LiLeX 
lmao
2018-01-31 16:32
#210
SileNt | 
United States rad1ey 
+1 oof
2018-01-31 16:39
#360
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Belarus fan_of_North 
looool
2018-01-31 21:22
#378
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Netherlands pewpeww 
+1
2018-01-31 22:50
#392
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Finland dev2ce 
+1
2018-02-01 01:02
burn
2018-02-01 01:41
#408
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Lithuania YungDavid 
DAMN BOY
2018-02-01 06:22
but it's true though
2018-01-31 18:14
You can say 1 year cause after Cluj Napoca NBK was IGL
2018-01-31 15:57
Only one year LOL did you watch envyus in 2016 and 2017? NBK was doing it for month or two and switched back to happy
2018-01-31 15:59
no realy
2018-01-31 16:00
i mean you didn't follow so you can't comment
2018-01-31 16:02
Are you sure about that ?
2018-01-31 20:35
youtube.com/watch?v=7ft29W3mKPo , and this was at the beggining of 2017
2018-01-31 20:48
around yes
2018-01-31 18:25
it's not about working, he's a hardworker It's about changing his playstyle
2018-02-01 08:44
Happy is actually the best IGL of all time in CS:GO, your empty headed statement just pissed me off. Funny how silly one can be.
2018-01-31 15:48
#130
flusha | 
Sweden D1SCO8 
I think Happy, Pronax, Fallen are the best IGL of all time.. With Pronax being the number 1 .. Happy is very very very good. and i think he still are that good, only that he plays with only "decent" players that hinders him and his team to shine.
2018-01-31 15:55
ex6 ??
2018-01-31 18:25
#411
flusha | 
Sweden D1SCO8 
ex6 are not top 3.. he didnt win any major, and he basically had as long time and as good players as happy did to work with to win a major.. ex6 is very good though,
2018-02-01 06:42
I agree both are great but pronax lacked individual firepower. He had to step up as well but his leading was nice. 1. Happy 2. FalleN 3. pronax The greatest three!
2018-02-01 00:59
#412
flusha | 
Sweden D1SCO8 
Pronax didnt lack fire power at the time when fnatic was the best ever. he did what he could to contribute. and an igl doesnt need to be all firepower.. what he lacked in firepower he made up with his way of calling and his way of giving freedom to his players.. So for me its 1. Pronax 2. Happy 3. Fallen .. But really it doesnt matter, becasue everyone has their own opinion and that fine.. no matter what i think a guy that has been around since the beginning of csgo would agree that its these 3 that stands out from all others..
2018-02-01 06:45
Amen to the last sentence but in my view the In-Game Leader is the player responsible not for the in-game calling only, but to carry his team and be the best actually. In my own understanding, the leader is the best man in a crew, the leader is a player who'd have the undisputed respect from his teammates and was actually good or even the best by the rating. I admit pronax's way of leading was outstanding and will be remembered forever but he himself had troubles to give the numbers at many times. I always liked him, was my favorite player for Fnatic. But I would remain my list as it was. Even though I agree with you sharing your point, just switching the players, you know ;)
2018-02-01 06:49
#414
flusha | 
Sweden D1SCO8 
I respect that bro. ;) And i really really like how happy lead his teams. And how freaking amazing he was while leading he still was topfragging and dominating.. ;)
2018-02-01 06:55
Thank you for that. pronax is a mastermind in a cutie boy's disguise. He's really talented and gifted for this game, it's a shame he's out of radars as of now. I always like to see his team playing. Hopefully he will apear in the scene soon again!
2018-02-01 06:57
#417
flusha | 
Sweden D1SCO8 
Thanks bro. was nice talking to you. ;)
2018-02-01 07:02
Similarly, have a good time!
2018-02-01 07:04
Lol you're clueless. Happy had possibly the best skilled individual lineup ever, including himself. He was their best player at times, at least before they got kenny. He ran basic strats, but it worked at the time. Then he tried his baiting lurk igling for over a year and it never worked, not even once. At the moment, happy doesnt even care if the team win or lose. And he doesn't even try to answer the question when asked what isn't working any more and what to do to solve it. All he said in the major was "idk". Good on zywoo to realise that it would be a disaster for him to play with happy in 2018.
2018-01-31 15:56
someday you will read the name Jovik and realise you're better off arguing with a brick wall
2018-01-31 16:18
I agree on the most part, he doesn't care now, doesn't even want to play. He was betrayed and let down by his own countrymen, no wonder he's emotionless in this pathetic game. You can see it in his eyes when he tries and wants to play and even though he's now out of the line, it doesn't deny the fact that he still to this day is the greatest IGL in CS:GO. And also his 'baiting lurk' playstyle worked for quite some time but anyway his position is understandable.
2018-02-01 00:57
#264
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United Kingdom bvipster 
Happy>Pronax
2018-01-31 17:43
#324
tabseN | 
France HYPNO5 
+1
2018-01-31 19:38
#13
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Germany uRaguuu 
it would last soo much longer if they had a proper anti cheat :(
2018-01-31 15:05
CS will easily last 4-5 more years. Dota is objectively superior in every way to League of Legends
2018-01-31 15:05
"CS will easily last 4-5 more years" Lol delusional. "Dota is objectively superior in every way to League of Legends" Not in every way because dota has terrible design decisions aswell.
2018-01-31 15:07
inb4 muh turnrates
2018-01-31 15:13
Win in dota you get 25 points lose and same happens. You can quit playing Dota and mmr is the same. But sure lol is worse haha. Delusional
2018-01-31 15:21
Dota does softreset MMR every 6 months.
2018-01-31 15:35
every 6 months. LMAO
2018-01-31 15:42
I dislike dota and league but your replies are giving me cancer
2018-01-31 16:19
Then move away from this thread and you will escape cancer. But now you are replying so i guess you really need something to say and you are contributing to this "cancer"
2018-01-31 16:21
im more like chemo to your cancer in this thread, The fact that your entire arguments rely on you trying to shout "LMAO" or Lol every sentence shows how much your arguments are lacking validity. the fact that source 2 engine will most likely be integrated into CSGO rather than releasing a new version of CS, the game will easily last another 4-5 years. there has been no major decrease in player base since release so there's no reason it will suddenly be "dead" as you put it. reading your comments you clearly have no sort of logical argument for CS being an apparently dead game, as well as no logical reasoning for it to die off in the next 4 years. all you have been doing it trying to insult the other guy due to his name as your main argument against his comment, which in itself is cancer If you
2018-01-31 16:26
Dota is better than League. Deal with it. The only reason LoL is more popular is cause of that 2-3 year buffer between it and Dota coming out.
2018-01-31 16:40
Dota has issues and lol has issues. Saying that one is better that the other is stupid because it depends how you rate the games and what you value in them. As i said both have issues and Dota some serious ones that surprisingly nobody talks about.
2018-01-31 16:41
It's true, it has issues, but in terms of gameplay it offers much more than LoL and is objectively better. As i said LoL is only popular cuz of that 2 year buffer.
2018-01-31 16:42
Gameplay wise yeah it has more to offer. But ranking system is awful in Dota and to me its personally not as good as League's system of MMR. And if we are only talking about pro scene then yes dota is ahead but you got to remember that only at best 0.01% of players are pro and imo its more enjoyable to play league with friends and solo too.
2018-01-31 16:46
that's true, and it's perhaps the only problem dota has. But it's still more enjoyable gameplay wise, and isn't stale and boring like LoL is. But valve is making progress, soon MM will be even better, the new ranks is just a start.
2018-01-31 16:47
Well then valve are making right steps to make the game better.
2018-01-31 16:49
3 world country talking BS LMFAOOOAOOOOO XD
2018-01-31 17:23
Go protect your country from arabs and terrorist attacks. Thanks
2018-01-31 17:51
#252
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
Reported for not using english. This is an international website, please write your comment in english. Every blabla
2018-01-31 17:26
what
2018-01-31 17:41
boring troll
2018-02-01 08:46
#182
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United States STERBENVII 
Too bad that simply isn't true. League pulls in a lot more interest and viewership than Dota does. Lul
2018-01-31 16:22
#191
rain | 
Slovakia verg1ll 
dota is slow boring trash, point and click 15 second cc wow so fun, global 150ms awesome game X-D
2018-01-31 16:26
>Highest average Kill/Assists at 15 minutes in EU LCS is 2.52 i.imgur.com/Fgo28np.jpg i.imgur.com/zycMStb.jpg i.imgur.com/dk2mSqP.png i.imgur.com/JgiZ4j6.jpg i.imgur.com/74UPbvg.jpg ACTION PACKED GAMEPLAY League = casual version of dota clips.twitch.tv/IntelligentBumblingBeave..
2018-01-31 17:48
#336
rain | 
Slovakia verg1ll 
nobody watches dota, nobody plays dota, dead game
2018-01-31 19:59
dota is bigger in the west than league lmao
2018-01-31 20:16
#342
rain | 
Slovakia verg1ll 
0/8
2018-01-31 20:20
imgur.com/a/TV3bb china makes up 88% of all players, western playerbase is around 12 mil uniques just like dotes
2018-01-31 20:27
#346
rain | 
Slovakia verg1ll 
you are retarded, op.gg only counts people who play ranked 0/8
2018-01-31 20:29
okay so you are implying league has more than 100 million players, got it.
2018-01-31 20:33
#351
rain | 
Slovakia verg1ll 
Im not implying anything, im just pointing out that your info is completely wrong, and league had 100 million in 2016
2018-01-31 20:42
#242
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Europe keNLey94 
then why the fuck not take 15K every month in 5 years and then take school after?
2018-01-31 17:12
#293
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Romania Tise 
>He thinks LoL is better Fuck off weeb
2018-01-31 18:18
Personal prefference. Gypsy
2018-01-31 18:46
#310
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Romania Tise 
Calls somebody delusional for saying that Dota is superior to LoL and then immediately calls it off as "personal preference". Expected from the Polish/Russian rapebaby
2018-01-31 19:17
15k per month for 3-4 years is more than a lifetime of ordinary work.
2018-01-31 22:49
#386
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Netherlands pewpeww 
erhm not even close..
2018-01-31 22:57
5 + 17 is 22, what will he do with no grades at 22?
2018-01-31 22:52
#382
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Poland Ryunar 
saying baby league is better than dota, the first moba>
2018-01-31 22:57
>19 yr old franchise >lasts 4-5 more years where is it going?
2018-02-01 16:29
maybe cheating, woul explain it, if he is ashamed of being a pro gamer (some poeple are for sure,) the 15k should change it
2018-01-31 15:04
why do you get baited by this 18 yo cute litle newfag? he is here since 1 year and he is basing all his info on hltv forum XD
2018-01-31 15:43
i have no idea who this guy is lol
2018-01-31 15:38
just check his profile
2018-01-31 15:43
#14
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China wordEXE 
cs isnt dead but it is dying, its simply a bad move for him to quit school to have a job only for a few more years
2018-01-31 15:05
you are just retarded or 17 yo who never had to earn anything cos mommy gave him everything ohh well...
2018-01-31 15:36
#259
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China wordEXE 
retarded because i understand that education has a value in the first world? you're a joke
2018-01-31 17:39
15k/month is a lot Also where is cs going? Why only few years? either way 36 * 15000 = 540 000 $
2018-02-01 16:31
CS is dead game. 4-5 years? 5 years *15k/month = 900k >ZywOo is smart and rather finish the school.
2018-01-31 15:13
#29
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United Kingdom THERISKK999 
and thats without prize money and if he stays and NV too ez more
2018-01-31 15:15
Is innocent ceo of envy and knows all of the paper work ? Dont think so. I can also say that i fucked Jennifer Lawrence and its on internet so it must be true fam. But yeah Csgo's viewership is going down so it is dying. And dont tell me that bullshit that player basis increased, that is because cs is now available in china. /closed
2018-01-31 15:19
>ZywOo is smart and rather finish the school. >15k >DieNastya >age:18
2018-01-31 15:24
How is CSGO's viewership going down you delusional fuck? Every single non major tier 1 tournament this year (think: Starseries, ESL Cologne, ESL NY, IEM Oakland, EPICENTER, EPL S6 Finals) surpassed the previous years' iteration in terms of viewership. Also, the ELEAGUE Major 2018 final had the 2nd highest viewership in CS history, only slightly surpassed by PGL's finals (1.9M>1.85M viewers), but had a higher viewership if we count unique viewers that checked in over the course of the major. So yeah... CS is far from dying. I think you mean CSGO, yes, probably in 5 years CSGO will start to end, but then a new CS will come out or they will make major changes to the core concepts of CSGO/change engine to revive it or save it from dying.
2018-01-31 15:34
But you have to realize that interest in CSGO is really high As the video shows the numbers have been stable over the last 3 years with almost no investment. Valve always has the potential to give a massive boost to CS again, eg updating the engine and advertising it as a new game (this is called "rebranding" and done evrywhere in business :)) to draw lots of "new" players around the age 15, or introduce a survival gamemode like in pubg, and maybe even sell that as an addon for 10 bucks to make alot of money. This video basically only shows that the hype around the game has been stagnant since 2015 which is obvious since nothing new has been introduced since then really and new, young gamers tend to buy new games
2018-01-31 15:51
I don't disagree, just pointing out that technically they are correct. This game will never die. 600,000 is an insanely healthy player base. I'd be surprised if the game dropped under 100,000 in the next five years.
2018-01-31 15:53
I think the game could rival maybe dota or maybe even pubg if valve had regular large updates or advertised the game more.
2018-01-31 15:54
pubg is a "new" game don't forget that. It shows the potential playerbase valve could attract if they had made something new around cs recently In that regard the current players numbers shouldnt be satisfying to the csgo_dev ( valve as a head company maybe don't care, since pubg is on steam too? idk how much of the profit they get...)
2018-01-31 17:23
Yeah, long story short, since valve is making billions from steam why would they keep making/heavily supporting games?
2018-01-31 17:25
#92
forsaken | 
Luxembourg esKo_ 
pgl was with China making over 1 mil of the views
2018-01-31 15:41
Well yes im talking about Global Offensive. What is cs is being played most Atm ? Surely im not speaking about 1.6 or source xd lmao. And also in terms ov viewership mlg columbus peaked not Boston 2018. But nt
2018-01-31 15:45
MLG Columbus had a HUGE peak viewer peak due to the first NA team in finals ever. The average viewership numbers were higher in Boston. I remember the last 2-3 years of majors pretty well, and MLG Columbus had like 150k-200k consistent on main channel twitch, on quarters/semis around 300k-400k. For Boston, the numbers were consistently 250k-300k on groups and the semis/quarters 400k-500k. But where the real change is, is that it's more global. The site esc.watch records numbers from twitch (all official channels), the chinese site with the rights and also youtube. The peak numbers ARE increasing, and chinese viewers bring in just as much money, if not more, than western ones due to how big esports is in China. So yeah, the game isn't dying, Valve is just focusing on the Global market and by doing so, the peak numbers since Atlanta 2017 have increased drastically. He may say Columbus had the peak viewership, but that's wrong, they had the peak twitch + in-game viewership, but that's not counting the global market for CS which was tiny at the time, and has grown since start of 2017.
2018-01-31 16:49
I said that player base has increased because of the game being avaiable in china. But in regions where it was already avaiable numbers of players didnt increase.
2018-01-31 16:51
#175
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United States _waterrr 
>CS is dying >Breaking twitch record for most concurrent viewers. Twice
2018-01-31 16:20
Breaking where ? Mlg columbus had the most viewers. Eleague's 2018 finals average is only #4 off all time in viewership of major finals. But nt
2018-01-31 16:21
#190
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United States _waterrr 
You're honestly a fucking braindead retard who can't even do basic research. End your life; we don't need people like you on Earth.
2018-01-31 16:26
It broke twitchs record. You ever heard of Gotv retard ? Combining those both eleague major was #4 all time in terms of finals vievership average. So yes on twitch it def had most viewers but im also counting Gotv. And combining those both Eleague major was only #4 while columbus is #1 all time. Thanks for the laugh now stfu.
2018-01-31 16:29
#195
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United States _waterrr 
What the fuck was the first thing I said you braindead fucking 3rd world country fuck? "Breaking twitch record" expected from Lithuanian brain.
2018-01-31 16:31
Then you retard need to read the thread because i was talking about Gotv and twitch combined. Kys mcdonalds.
2018-01-31 16:32
#300
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United States _waterrr 
Then give me your braindead argument on how CS is dying while the viewership numbers are rising on platforms.
2018-01-31 18:25
That the newest major cannot match previous major viewership numbers ? /closed also im counting Gotv viewers not only twitch.
2018-01-31 18:48
#306
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United States _waterrr 
No matter what you fucking idiot you can't claim something is dying while it's breaking records other eSports won't come close to.
2018-01-31 19:10
youtube.com/watch?v=FDRz9ku-RKs Also watch this and you are allowed to put a gun to your face after all you are american.
2018-01-31 16:31
#253
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
it's more like you fucked Martin Lawrence :,)
2018-01-31 17:28
i wouldn't complain.
2018-01-31 17:52
#273
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
:D
2018-01-31 17:52
CSGO viewership is not going down you retard
2018-01-31 18:01
0/8. Nt ur delusional
2018-01-31 18:05
then fuck off from hltv cunt
2018-01-31 18:07
stfu ugly ass
2018-01-31 18:07
XD
2018-01-31 19:56
bad meme dude
2018-01-31 15:22
"<3 high life" Ur high fam stop, quit smoking pot.
2018-01-31 15:23
#254
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
if he likes it, why should he stop ?
2018-01-31 17:28
#69
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Poland sajlent 
dat logic xD your brain is dead
2018-01-31 15:30
#105
2018-01-31 15:46
#87
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Israel Encryp7eD 
enough with this bad meme, it's absolutely wrong
2018-01-31 15:38
not a meme, in terms of viewership of major finals boston eleague is only #4. Yeah cs aint dying LOOOL.
2018-01-31 15:46
#117
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Israel Encryp7eD 
u must be on drugs, 1.9m viewers only on twitch(!) in the boston major
2018-01-31 15:51
It never reached 1.9m Viewers. Provide me some evidence. And again as i said Mlg peaked in terms of viewership in the finals and that major is 2 years old now. Cs is dying boi
2018-01-31 15:56
#172
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Israel Encryp7eD 
imgur.com/a/U5PiB if you ask where it's from, it's from the site that records the viewership for these tournaments, it was posted here on HLTV 2 days ago so i'm surprised you didn't see it already
2018-01-31 16:19
DFQ is this screenshot. What does it say ? lol it just has some numbers maybe give me an overlay of something that shows csgo there too or a news link ? This doesnt prove anything. Just some random numbers
2018-01-31 16:20
#177
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Israel Encryp7eD 
read my edit. esc.watch
2018-01-31 16:20
I read your edit. But you are still not giving me some proof or trusty facts. But nt
2018-01-31 16:22
#238
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Denmark Xipingu 
ESC.Watch is a trustable website. Much more accurate than a lot of TV sites.
2018-01-31 16:58
nice site, tracking tournaments only from october 2016, so MLG Columbus and ESL Cologne majors are not included. ok, but still, let's look at this site - boston major is listed second in terms of views. PGL Krakow had 10k more viewers if you include china. that might seem good. but let's be honest - boston was that big only because of final game. also if you exclude china's inflated numbers (it is speculated that they are fixing the numbers, so let's not include those numbers now) and look at the average viewership you can see the difference - for example Eleague 2017 had 163k (!) more viewers on average. that is HUGE number. the boston peak was decent, but in terms of average viewership - it's shit. and as I mentioned earlier - those numbers exclude the biggest tournamets - MLG 2016 and ESL Cologne 2016 cs is dying. deal with it.
2018-01-31 19:41
#333
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Israel Encryp7eD 
there's no reason to not count the CN numbers, unless you've got any proof for what you say
2018-01-31 19:53
#277
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Netherlands Deji 
15k month > school
2018-01-31 18:02
#312
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Germany Tunio 
yes because school is more important than 15k month
2018-01-31 19:17
Stupid decision, imo. At least get the money to pay for college tuition/start investing. People often take gap years these days before going to college too, especially med school students. A lot of college students would fucking sell their bodies, which some actually do, to make the money to pay off college that easily.
2018-01-31 22:54
You cant go to university if you didnt finish school. Zywoo is smart and knows that playing CS now is only beneficial in a short term.
2018-02-01 12:44
You can put school on hold ALL THE TIME and come back pretty easily. You don't get opportunities like this everyday. How is it beneficial only in the short term? You put school on hold for x years. Maybe one playing csgo. So you get 15k x 12. Alright. You just made 180k which is more than a lot of parents make. You decide to go back to school. Who gives a fuck you're 19 and you're a senior in high school. At least you can immediately pay back college tuition once you do apply.
2018-02-01 19:34
#2
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Denmark oskarsports 
What did he said about mouz?
2018-01-31 15:00
#5
s1mple | 
World Stoos 
there was a guy who had an offer from Sprout and mouse but refused bcuz "no time to play", and that guy is cheating also, but innocent didnt want to mention his nick, and innocent compares him to Zywoo
2018-01-31 15:02
its propably sergej
2018-01-31 15:03
its joelz
2018-01-31 15:03
#81
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Poland godBASR 
seriausly?
2018-01-31 15:36
Lol joelz is just an hltv meme.
2018-01-31 15:38
#151
JD | 
Poland chujwto 
nooooooo
2018-01-31 16:04
probably ayken
2018-01-31 18:16
#294
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Malta 74c00 
Propably Smn
2018-01-31 18:20
#3
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United States cananigfrag 
What is going on with zywoo man?
2018-01-31 15:00
he didn't say 15k$ though, only "15k", he could mean 15k pln = 4.5k $
2018-01-31 17:42
i dont think an american org would offer a french player a contract in PLN
2018-01-31 20:35
ik but innocent could calculate that to his currency :P but yeah probably it was a 15k$ offer, just saying
2018-01-31 20:54
how much do you think G2 players get paid per month?
2018-01-31 15:02
neL said they get 25k
2018-01-31 15:15
thanks man
2018-01-31 15:17
25k$
2018-01-31 15:26
Euros
2018-01-31 16:15
wise decision from him, he knows if he get on a team there will be overlap between csgo and school and that will make the quality of his performance in both of them lower it's good to focus on one thing at a time
2018-01-31 15:03
Yea, like vp. Kappa
2018-01-31 15:05
kappaccino
2018-01-31 15:07
he finishes school in june lol got a friend that is good with him but he doesnt know either why he didnt accept the offer from envy
2018-01-31 15:18
and lets be honest, if he is as good at cs without cheats then he must be very smart and we all know that being avarage is enough to finish those schools without single minute spent on studying
2018-01-31 15:38
jup hes either cheating or the dumbest fuck on this planet
2018-01-31 17:50
hes not dumb retard, wtf is the point in dropping out of school when you finish in 5 months?
2018-01-31 20:15
dude are you stupid envy gave him time he refused you moron
2018-01-31 20:29
#17
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France kipoCSGO^_^ 
how he can know that ? good choice ZywOo btw
2018-01-31 15:07
#75
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Poland Hell2k 
He dont know
2018-01-31 15:34
#80
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Finland sadmen)))) 
lmao that aint good choice unless hes parents are millionares
2018-01-31 15:36
#91
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Poland jurekdudek 
secrets of esport :)
2018-01-31 15:40
#100
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Finland IFK 
you sure players don't talk with each other behind the scenes? any player from EnvyUs could've said that "yeah, we tried to get zywoo but he didn't accept the offer."
2018-01-31 15:43
he's cheating, and he knows if he joins a big team he'll get found out. No chance you turn down $15k a month
2018-01-31 15:07
#202
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Brazil coldzao2 
i mean he could probably pay 2/3 of his first salary for some high tier cheats that are impossible to find if he finishes school in 5 months theres nothing wrong with declining their offer or he wants to get straight into G2
2018-01-31 16:33
He could still accept suck balls get atleast 1 mounth salary and if envyus close the contract cause he sucks without cheats if hes cheating prob some money to buy his contract out so ez
2018-02-01 08:50
#20
Europe Iaz 
Zywoo still has to finish highschool I think and in France everybody finished it even the retards. But honestly french highschools are jokes, dude is a fucking moron to turn down 15k a month because he ''has to concentrate on school first''. Karrigan did a master while playing, just saying.
2018-01-31 15:07
karrigan finished school before full time playing,
2018-01-31 15:12
is zywoo karrigan?
2018-01-31 15:13
#32
ZippE | 
Finland Abble 
Basically what he just said? Karrigan finished school WHILE playing, hence not playing full time because he's a student. After graduating he stopped studying = PLlying full time bacause he's not a student
2018-01-31 15:16
ZywoO is actually doing the same so
2018-01-31 15:16
#43
Europe Iaz 
I did the comparaison to show the difficulty of Zywoo's studies is nothing compared to Karrigan. Unless he's a total retard he could combine school and full time playing. Dude turn down the equivalent of 15 minimum wages, even if he doesn't have any diploma, he could stack a lot of cash if his career fails and could do streaming or some shit.
2018-01-31 15:19
It doesn't mean anything, you can still fail 'cause you played too much instead of studying
2018-01-31 15:19
#66
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France mintzz 
I've known people who went to school maybe 2 months in the exam year and still got better results than those who were scared and studied 24/7. It doesn't mean anything, considering how quickly he improved at CS, it's unlikely he would fail his studies since his brain seems to process and keep information pretty easily.
2018-01-31 15:30
You are the fucking retard here... He will have the same offers after the summer break... Why wouldn't he fisnish school first ?
2018-01-31 16:16
Studying is not the same as school
2018-01-31 18:17
cheater
2018-01-31 15:09
He is a cheater, that's why he won't accept it. Who would turn down 15k? it's not logical, I can get 200k usd and the finish school ffs LOL
2018-01-31 15:14
Yup
2018-01-31 15:30
#30
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Norway rogueplayer 
either the guy is cheating or is actually smart... more offers will come... cs will survive at least 10 years more
2018-01-31 15:15
or he doesnt want to play under worst igl Happy
2018-01-31 15:17
#41
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Norway rogueplayer 
good point... happy is ruining careers with his god damn awful IGLing
2018-01-31 15:19
for 15k i would even play under maniac
2018-01-31 15:43
#203
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Brazil coldzao2 
for 15k i would play alone
2018-01-31 16:34
good point
2018-01-31 16:55
#248
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United Kingdom ScaN^ 
xD
2018-01-31 17:20
-1 What's up with all the Norwegian Happy haters?
2018-01-31 21:30
I dont hate him , I just think he is bad at IGL'ing and lurking
2018-01-31 22:39
Still a lot of Nowegians have a low opinion of Happy nowadays. Do you guys still think Thorin's opinion is relevant in 2018?
2018-01-31 22:47
Because he is being awful player nowadays that's why people have a low opinion of Happy Fk Thorin btw
2018-01-31 22:58
#33
D0cC | 
Netherlands duudiGOD 
nice poorlish fakeflagger
2018-01-31 15:16
#208
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United States cananigfrag 
VeryRudeGuy :’(
2018-01-31 16:38
i can't believe envy would pay 15k every month to team which doesn't achieve anything
2018-01-31 15:17
or innocent said in zl which is like 3500€
2018-01-31 15:18
there's no way a team like nV gets only 3500€ a month
2018-01-31 15:45
Some players are
2018-01-31 16:17
sixer paying them to stay in the team hAHAHAH
2018-01-31 16:23
#205
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Brazil coldzao2 
hahahaha
2018-01-31 16:35
hahahahaahaa
2018-01-31 17:11
As sad as it is, i think he kept his old salary...
2018-01-31 17:53
meanwhile kinguin and vp players are getting shit tons of money for playing mdl xddd
2018-01-31 15:19
it's like football man dirty money moved by mafias / skins /bets etc I can not believe he did not accepted this offer if it is true.
2018-01-31 15:21
because you have no clue how it works, you are just a kid after all
2018-01-31 15:40
So maybe you can explain how team with no winnings and almost no fans who would buy jerseys etc. has money to pay so much monthly. I can't believe they would have so much money to pay a player on a trial period If you can't it's understandable, you are typical hltv baiter after all I guess :)
2018-01-31 16:16
who said about trial lmfao, that was supposed to be his final earnings
2018-01-31 16:17
#39
LOGAN | 
France dingue 
This guy is shady, yesterday against Gambit he did not make of skill!! Surprising not seen that even when he(it) loses he(it) skill a max and as if by chance there was that very day or of front an update valve in ........
2018-01-31 15:18
#47
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Finland Kashmir69 
Nice decision
2018-01-31 15:20
Bcuz ZywOo is cheating ofc, he will never join a pro team
2018-01-31 15:20
#59
MICHU | 
Poland papaski2 
XD nice logic, so ur saying that its ok to waste ur life playing csgo without getting paid for that? (if thinking someone is cheating lol)
2018-01-31 15:27
In english please
2018-01-31 15:30
You said that he will never join a pro team you say so of course because you think he is cheating. Explain me then why would he waste his life playing cs and cheating if he would not have any money from it? It just does not make sense lol
2018-01-31 15:51
Ask this question to the dozens of cheaters playing cs all day long... Idk why he wasting his life maybe this kid has nothing better to do atm
2018-01-31 15:53
The difference between ZywOo and them (sadly ur not right bcs he is not cheating) is that in front of him the path to the top is open, and he will take that opportunity soon
2018-01-31 15:55
Ok, we will see, i am waiting for him to make a move
2018-01-31 16:22
#193
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Switzerland Alpollo 
Ofc he gets money right now with his cheats. But he is a bad player and if he joins nV everyone will find out. TBH this is the most proof of cheating ive ever seen.
2018-01-31 16:28
waste wat ? he's leaving in france if he makes 200k per yer for like 10 years it's more than enough to live for like more 20 years , and he can also study later it's not a fucking 3rd country xD
2018-01-31 15:33
#116 tard
2018-01-31 15:52
#53
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Poland Hell2k 
15k for 17 years old onliner ayyyyy ofc XDD
2018-01-31 15:24
#60
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Poland MadLife 
it hurts you?
2018-01-31 15:27
#62
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Poland Hell2k 
No cuz it is not truth lul
2018-01-31 15:28
it is truth kid, why are you talking about something you have no idea because you are too young and dumb?
2018-01-31 15:41
#98
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Poland MadLife 
^ this
2018-01-31 15:43
#138
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Poland Hell2k 
Yes it is truth cuz random from poland said omegalul
2018-01-31 15:57
#55
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Poland Hell2k 
Innocent is envyus owner abd he know XDDD
2018-01-31 15:24
#56
fnx | 
Netherlands robyYEE 
2018-01-31 15:26
Remember that guy who was a better headshot machine than ScreaM? He called himself "area". He also refused many offers. We all know how he ended up.
2018-01-31 15:27
sad part is that there are a lot of retards who want the blatant fuck unbanned
2018-01-31 15:47
#209
ISSAA | 
Japan LiLeX 
the scene was a lot different back then lol.. but anyways I understand your point
2018-01-31 16:39
yup
2018-02-01 00:24
Playing pc games all day will never grant you any honor in your family nor will it grant you a sense of achievement. Not to mention you have zero garanties. They can replace you at any time. The older you get the worse your life will turn out when the gaming actually stops.
2018-01-31 15:27
every point you make is dumb -honor in family: ofc, you get super salaries, a lot of sticker money, a lot of prize money (if you earn more than them, why would they care how you win it, especially since it's all legal and doing no hard job unlike them). winning=achievement, doesn't really matter if it s a football competition between schools or 1 mil people wtaching you win a trophy in cs. working a normal job in fact gives you no achievement or happiness -not really a problem, there will always be someone for you, also, they cannot simply terminate your contract, they will still have to pay you -not really, if you were a successful player, you already should have lots of money and you can still work a normal job afterwards as most people finish their schools anyways. also, you can still work in esports.
2018-01-31 20:01
I guess your dream is to become a progamer? Everything I say is true. Didn't even read your message because you can't even use decent grammar or capitals. Please stay in school kiddo.
2018-01-31 21:20
i don't care about pro gaming. i am rich, i don't have to work
2018-01-31 21:23
So like I said.. zero sense of achievement.. just freeloading on daddy's capital.
2018-01-31 21:22
jealous? i am pretty happy, my whole live is an achievement, it's hard for people like you to understand. also, winning in cs and getting a lot of money>you earning 5k a month for working as a janitor or whatever
2018-01-31 21:24
Jealous ? Im living together with my girl, who is amazing and hot. We have our house and we work for our shit. I'm pretty happy and feel successful and I don't need daddy's money.
2018-01-31 21:26
omg, you have a girlfriend, what an achievement. guess what, that's a normal life, not an achievement. I also have my own house and i work too, but i do it for fun, not for money as i don't need it. guess what, it's not a sad thing to do what you like, just like pros play cs go and you work the whole day just to not die of hunger
2018-01-31 21:31
You are full of shit. Stop embarrassing yourself 12 year old. Thanks
2018-01-31 21:31
see, the fact that you think having a girlfriend and a house is a thing to be proud of and the fact that you call me 12 pretty much sums up who's the kid sadly for you. you tried, apparently, you're jealous cuz my family is rich and you try to make me sad. i can't be sad mate for something like this. sadly for you
2018-01-31 22:55
Get a grip, nobody is jealous at you. First you don't need to work, then you do work. Stop the bullshit you faggot. You must be 12, no grown up dude has (l)f0rest in his nickname. Now stop replying you fat fuck.
2018-02-01 01:09
yes i do not need to work. yet, i work because i do what i like and i do want to do it. clearly a very smart little person if you can t even comprehend something easy like this.
2018-02-01 05:52
#399
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United States EmeraldCSGO 
sad part is i bet your not even that rich xd
2018-02-01 01:37
He isn't :D just look at his nickname.
2018-02-01 16:48
buster or qikert salary is 1000-1500 a month. but why 15000 for shit zywoo ? zywoo like typical murikan hamburger or he is like nigger that want a lot money..
2018-01-31 15:38
Because buster and qikert are shit players from shit country and 1500 is a lot in a shit country like Kazakstan. French players are superior and more expensive too.
2018-01-31 15:31
#77
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Stuart_ 
+1
2018-01-31 15:35
agree but how many afroarabs there in shithole france?
2018-01-31 15:55
school is important but honestly he's insane not to try to work around it for 15k
2018-01-31 15:29
#65
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Faroe Islands YesntNamer 
actually a smart person, first get education then the career that doesnt even last long
2018-01-31 15:29
+1 for some reason so many people think that a pro career in cs is completely stable even though you can be fucked over so quickly but i guess its safe to assume that even after the supposed French shuffles occur, when zywoo is free to go 100% all in he will be picked up very quickly. teams will not miss out on the opportunity to take in a potential future superstar
2018-01-31 15:57
ye but he can join envy and still finish high school, with his iq he can easily combine both since the stuff in high school is pretty ez just gotta look at it a few times (ie its nothing compared to uni), not to mention karrigan combined both and finished his masters while being IGL of TSM
2018-01-31 16:09
15 k + bonus money and refuse while living in france , 99% cheating
2018-01-31 15:31
he is cheetah
2018-01-31 15:33
#82
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France p2l 
He's already in a relatively good team, playing in ESEA Premier and has played several french lans with good performance. It's not strange to finish his high school before being pro at 100%, at least he'll got something if his esports career failed + he's getting more experience in game before playing in t1 and it's not like the 15k/month will disappear in june. Look at xms, 1 year with good salary but average performance and now he's fucked.
2018-01-31 15:36
i mean its half a year for him + exams time, maybe its nothing too fishy after all. He knows offers will be coming to him in the next 6 months with no doubt, so he might be taking this approach.
2018-01-31 15:44
but he already plays like over 70k hour per week lol
2018-01-31 15:48
*per 2 weeks i assume. It's not that much and its about the schedule, not the amount of time. Nowadays pro teams take the approach of typical job, so they practice in the morning/noon hours.
2018-01-31 15:54
expected from hacker
2018-01-31 15:37
zwyoo on lan, lul.
2018-01-31 15:39
He gotta be cheating omegaLUL So lets say he said to his parents 'i can earn 15k$+ per month doing what i like' and they said ' no you have to finish your school first so you will be able to earn 2k$ per month on shitty job which you probably gonna hate' yes ofc
2018-01-31 15:43
#112
chucky | 
Brunei aspexo 
sounds legit
2018-01-31 15:48
Dropped out OMEGALUL
2018-01-31 15:54
Nvm just a sped in sped class, he didn't dropped out
2018-01-31 16:55
#356
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France MrYES 
as a parent it is logic dude if they dont give a fuck of cs
2018-01-31 21:04
You gotta be retarded not to realise that the kid is cheating. You don't need to finish school if you're gonna get payed 15K$ per month, even if it's just for a few months.
2018-01-31 15:45
#109
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Sweden Akoulad 
And not to mention, other pro players like karrigan has finished Masters Degree while being in top5 team playing events all yea
2018-01-31 15:49
#200
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United States cananigfrag 
And ropz is still finishing school too while on mousesports! He finishes in August. No excuse for zywoo...
2018-01-31 16:32
#107
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Sweden Akoulad 
He was cheating but never thought he would be offered a place in a team. Now he says he wants to finish school as an excuse, after school, it will be a "family emergency". He is a fraud, loser and pathetic.
2018-01-31 15:46
Calm down Mohammed
2018-01-31 15:50
#179
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Sweden naturen 
why are you scared to show your true flag?
2018-01-31 16:21
#141
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
like area when he got offer
2018-01-31 15:59
#115
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
lets use logic, he gets signed for a year thats 15kx12 = 180 000$ + sponsorships and tournament winnings so we could be easily looking at 250 000$ per year if he finishes school and starts working he would on average earn like 2000-2500$ per month because he has no experience so he would rather work for 10 years to earn the same amount of money he would get for a year of CS seems pretty retarded to be honest
2018-01-31 15:51
It's not about the fucking money, kid wants to learn and work in a real job then let him
2018-01-31 15:54
#128
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
you can always go back to finish school, you wont be able to earn 15k per month for playing games when you are 40
2018-01-31 15:54
Lmao do you want to get booted off from a team after playing for them like in 1 and a half years, then be like 19 years old still going to senior highschool instead of college? He's young and already knows not to play games that much even if it is for money
2018-01-31 15:56
#142
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
yes I would rather attend high school at 19 with money in my hand then to finish school young and turn down huge opportunity like this, 1,5 years would be 270,000$ just from salary, this is not a smart move no matter how hard you are trying to justify it, either he is autistic or he is already rich, nobody would turn down this amount of money just to finish a year of school
2018-01-31 15:59
"either he is autistic or he is already rich" can't agree more.
2018-01-31 16:01
Flag checks, 15k isnt that much tbh lul
2018-01-31 16:13
lol this is alot here and in any country. Can you tell me what profissions(don't know how speak that right) earn 15k/m in your country?
2018-01-31 16:28
Lawyers and shit, but its not very long term for zywoo i dont think, Lawyers and doctors are hired for 30 years, but ye hes still dumb for not taking it, probably cheating or has some major anxiety problems like Joelz
2018-01-31 16:44
Lol? lawyer and doctors don't travel around the world (in most of the cases) and don't receive prize from tournaments, and they both need to study as fuck to get thosr jobs.
2018-01-31 21:30
Plus if you want to be a lawyer/doctor you must completely stop cs to do it since its a lot of hardwork, and if you are just average you can fail at it so taking 15K/M and then go back to study if you wanna stop after a few years is very easy. And you can do both, ropz / karrigan can do it, funny how he cant :)
2018-02-01 00:31
Yes, and karrigan was in the University, what makes it even more impressive
2018-02-01 01:21
Yeah people are acting like it's a crazy amount of money, I've seen management level engineers clear that much easily without including high paying freelance work and management level bonuses.
2018-01-31 21:33
+1 probably people who dont undetstand how much money you truly need, lets say he plays pro for 4-5 years, then what, not like he gona get some "ordinary" job, especially if he never graduated highschool, in order to successfully "retire" you need soooo much money
2018-02-01 12:45
In life you don't put school after everything else Finish school first Then worry about being in a pro team, every pro csgo player atleast finished school first before joining a good team, ask anyone that is involve csgo pro scene, go on streams and donate to them asking if you should join a pro team with a good income before finish school, they will all give you the same answer to finish school first. Education gets tougher if you wait until 40 then go back to highschool or college
2018-01-31 16:02
#154
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
I have seen 30-40 yo people finish their high school diplomas so they can get promoted at work, so even if he went back at 25 it wouldnt be a tragedy yes most of the pro players will give you that answer because people asking them arent ZyWOo, and not a single one of them got offered to play for 15k$ after a such short amount of time if he had no offers and no prospects, quitting school would be retarded but he has free money available and he refuses to take it
2018-01-31 16:06
Some people in this world don't think money is that important and think education is better. You can't really argue with them
2018-01-31 16:07
HE rather gets rid of school first since its such a damn annoying thing to wake up early in the morning to attend school
2018-01-31 16:08
#162
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
I dont like waking up at 5 am, so I will turn down 15k$ per month so I can maybe earn them few years later when I dont have to wake up at 5 am, yeah that makes sense lmao
2018-01-31 16:13
this guy is so fucking autistic dont even try to reply to him anymore xD
2018-01-31 16:24
Twitch newfags OMEGALUL Keep watching forsen, won't cure downies
2018-01-31 16:48
i see u are here since 2017 nt, it tells a lot about your knowledge
2018-01-31 17:35
If zywoo is that good and nV ask him to join, it's not a once in a lifetime offer wtf How do you think mousesports got trash sunny and shit styko in their team?
2018-01-31 16:50
nV are gonna ask him again to join later on, and it's not like they don't understand why he won't join now You think you can rush someone at this age? If he wants to school then let him, all you're doing right now is making opinions that won't even affect anything and I'm here explaining
2018-01-31 16:52
#275
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
you are clearly mentally incapacitated, nV is crumbling now, they havent achieved any success with this lineup, this kid has a huge bargaining chip, he could alter his contract any way he wants, even ask for more and they would still sign it, but he doesnt do any of that nV wont ask shit, they will get kio and if the lineup bums again they will get dropped or shuffle completely, they wont be looking to replace a single player again he doesnt want school, he clearly has ulterior motives or like I said he is rich so he doesnt give a shit, you are not explaining anything, you are using your own point of view on another person and that never works, also I am not making any opinions, this is not an opinion this is a sane voice of reason, because any reasonable sane person that doesnt have millions in the bank would take this chance and take the money
2018-01-31 18:01
when i start thinking about it, envyus don't even participate in a lot of LANs and if they do, it's only about 3 days or maybe 1 day because envy sucks dick he can play in envy and do school in the same time but he can excuse himself wtf zywoo
2018-01-31 19:10
#309
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
yeah pretty much, he is offered tier 1 money for being on tier 2 team
2018-01-31 19:15
nV should just disband but since they're one of the famous orgs out there, they won't I mean they pick players and everyone is the problem, but as soon they leave and join another team, they are not the problem anymore so nV is just paying players to sit there and do nothing at all
2018-01-31 19:17
#315
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
yes thats why its so stupid to not take the money
2018-01-31 19:18
because they kick players when not even a year goes by. xms probably only made around 150 grand and he played for like 4 years in a low tier cs, then nV realizes that he is shit and wasted their money
2018-01-31 19:20
#318
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
they waste their money on this whole roster, they only picked it up because they couldnt get G2, it was pretty clear since day one that this team wont do better than tier 2 because SIXER and xms are pure shit
2018-01-31 19:25
you watching heroic vs nV right now? they won first map and throws the whole bo3
2018-01-31 19:30
#332
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
nothing new xd
2018-01-31 19:52
#163
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
only rich people or neo anarchists would turn such easy money just to get a shitty high school diploma
2018-01-31 16:14
He's already in aAa, he gets money from just being in that team And he is also doing school in the same time while being in that team, does he want to win some shitty minor LAN for just a couple of grand when aAa already gives him salary?? Not only that nV can't qualify for major or win a minor for shit anyways
2018-01-31 16:54
#270
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
aAa doesnt pay even 20% of what nV offers him, it really doesnt matter if the team qualifies for anything, 15k$ is still 15k$
2018-01-31 17:51
if it's money, it's money don't get greedy and get tempted by money because another org pays higher, that's the source of every betrayal ever
2018-01-31 19:11
#313
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
I doubt those guys are even his close friends tho, I am not gonna comment on that betrayal thing cuz its stupid xd sorry but if I am offered more money for a job I am already doing I will take it and the friends will understand because they would do the same thing if they were in your shoes
2018-01-31 19:18
"19 years old still going to senior highschool instead of college" ROFL, yeah what a tragedy. I'm a 19old boy with at least 180 000$, but better kms because i'm one year later on school.
2018-01-31 16:00
Expected from people looking up to SK No education and only plays games
2018-01-31 16:03
#125
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Finland Cumhur2004 
he refused because he probably cheats
2018-01-31 15:54
Is this thread full of dropouts commenting? If the kid wants to finish school rather than playing games for 15k per month then let him be. Of course everyone is gonna be greedy and take the offer but zywoo shows dedication to finish school Of course these are the people that also makes thread about who to replace in teams like they own the teams
2018-01-31 15:53
If you can't play CS professionally and finish highschool at the same time then you've got to be some kind of retard. Highschool is a piece of piss.
2018-01-31 17:44
#127
sergej | 
Finland jUPPE! 
He is 100% cheating if this story is true.
2018-01-31 15:54
#131
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Canada Ayton 
ROFL, if this is true he is cheating lol
2018-01-31 15:55
#140
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Brazil cadik 
>$15k >Envyus pick one
2018-01-31 15:58
envyus are idiots. they will bankrupt soon
2018-01-31 16:04
?? Ur retarded if you think that nV doesn't have money
2018-01-31 16:05
#166
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
if they can afford a team in every single popular esport ( including a LCS spot) they can afford to pay their players 15k/month
2018-01-31 16:17
When you have xms and sixer on your team even 15k for a 17yo onliner is better than them
2018-01-31 16:02
KURWA JEBANA
2018-01-31 16:08
#174
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Sweden naturen 
he knows that there are plenty of orgs that want him for about the same price, why should he quit school? finish school and then you can play professionally
2018-01-31 16:19
#207
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Brazil coldzao2 
+1 inb4 FaZe kicks karrigan and buys ZyWoo and offers him 50k salary
2018-01-31 16:37
#247
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Sweden naturen 
50k salary DXDXDXdx
2018-01-31 17:18
Let the kid finish school. Good to have a backup
2018-01-31 16:24
#197
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Kazakhstan kanjarje 
He can go to school and be pro at the same time. He already plays 75h/2w, for being pro you only need 35-50h/2w. And nv doesn't attend that much lans anyway
2018-01-31 16:31
#201
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Kazakhstan kanjarje 
I think he already gets enough money from aAa and just wants to chill before going pro
2018-01-31 16:32
enough from aAa lul not so much
2018-01-31 17:40
35-50 hrs in 2 weeks? wtf
2018-01-31 20:50
#204
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World Nydhogg 
I would rather kill myself instead of playing with sixer
2018-01-31 16:34
they would surely replace sixer with zywoo if he was about to join them
2018-01-31 19:40
Zywoo is a cheater
2018-01-31 16:35
#214
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
100% cheater
2018-01-31 16:43
lol people who said he is a cheater xD nt guys and dude if you don't know this year he need to have the "BAC" a french diplom where we are forced to have if we want to find a job after, and yes he is smart cause he know he gonna have a best offer after this summer
2018-01-31 16:47
#220
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Canada kthxy0 
its a "BAC pro" not the hardest one lol
2018-01-31 16:49
BAC or BACpro its a BAC bro it's like people who said STMG is for retarded or in S you have only smart people but hell no
2018-01-31 16:53
sa reste un bac si un jour il lui arrive un probleme avec csgo et bien y pourra tjr s'orienter avec les bagages qu'il a eu comme deja avoir eu son BAC pro et je trouve que c'est tres intelligent de sa part surtout pour son age sa prouve qu'il est mature et que ces parents l'encadre correctement et tant mieux pour lui, on c jamais de quoi sera fait demain mec et ensperant qui nike tjr des meres sur csgo
2018-01-31 16:55
#243
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Canada kthxy0 
mais c'est 100% normal de continuer ses études, la n'est pas le problème j'insinue pas qu'il est con de pas accepter l'offre et d'arrêter l'école ce que je veux dire c'est qu'un bac pro nécessite un faible travail personnel le soir comparé aux autres bacs, tout dépend de tes capacités bien évidemment mais la en l'occurrence je pense qu'il peut accepter une grosse offre sachant que les offreurs savent pertinemment qu'il ne peut pas participer a certaines lans ou tournois des fois car il doit aller à l'école, et au pire des cas t'accepte l'offre tu fais une année sabatique tu te mets hyper bien grace au jeux et tu recommences ton année^^
2018-01-31 17:13
cs will be around for forever csgo will be around another 5 or 10 years if not more... it all depends if valve chooses to release a new cs game or just keep updating csgo for years to come... games are going in a different direction they want their online games to last 10 or 20 years i remember reading an article about world of tanks wanting to stay around for 20 years so it shows the type of mindset game creators and developers are taking.... its not like the past where u release a sequel every few years... the online item marketplace has given game creators like valve and other companies the desire to extend their games for decades to come rather than releasing new titles
2018-01-31 16:50
#231
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Says it around for 5 more years 15,000x12x5 = 900000
2018-01-31 16:55
? over 9000?
2018-01-31 16:56
#255
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Indeed
2018-01-31 17:29
this cheating onliner would get busted.
2018-01-31 16:51
#234
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Turkey tastemycobra 
Maybe his parents are rich and he doesnt need that money.
2018-01-31 16:56
That's the factor people are missing, only a rich kid would have enough time to play a video game all day...
2018-01-31 21:35
Everyone got so happy when there was 1 million viewers and over in the grand final Then there's league and dota.......this game will leave org money fucked and dead Reply with hate <3
2018-01-31 16:57
You little piece of cake, how dare you!
2018-01-31 18:06
:C
2018-01-31 19:09
money is not all, you freekin n33gers, wtf is this thread? innocent talking bs, since when is he an authority?
2018-01-31 17:07
#244
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Malaysia byaIi 
my mom said if i get 15k per month i can be a pro pklayer
2018-01-31 17:15
he uses this "school time" to learn how to play cs without wallhack.
2018-01-31 17:17
#279
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Russia ez4u 
2018-01-31 18:05
probably anti-cheat got updated and his coder hasnt found a solution yet.
2018-01-31 18:12
I think innocent is a liar.
2018-01-31 17:17
Onliner cheating kind of obvious he isn't going to join anything relevant in CS anytime soon.
2018-01-31 17:32
probably doesnt have enough money to afford the lan h4x
2018-01-31 17:47
#278
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Europe 3MK 
15K$ a month are you fucking kidding me i would suck dick for that.
2018-01-31 18:03
+1
2018-01-31 18:14
maybe shroud, n0thing & ZYWOO PUBG professional lul
2018-01-31 18:07
#285
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget 
nt fake flagger
2018-01-31 18:08
#287
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Netherlands Deji 
And whos this guy that talks bullshit on stream?
2018-01-31 18:09
#303
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United States cananigfrag 
innocent from SPROUT
2018-01-31 18:48
#314
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
cheater
2018-01-31 19:18
#317
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
Maybe he doesnt have cheats which work on lan but pretty sure that big org can get him good cheats probably using some ''shit'' cheats atm.
2018-01-31 19:21
#321
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
best excuse has to finish school first xd xd still playing 80hours/week FPL and tier3 tourneys also ropz manages to do both aswell
2018-01-31 19:33
+56
2018-01-31 20:51
#323
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
The kid may have a different level of pressure, maybe his family thinks that he's a loser if he doesn't get a real job, maybe he thinks that there's no future for him on the scene, maybe he just doesn't want to go pro because he has other ideas... I hope he can actually play in a team, his talent is quite good, but i think people should respect his decision, even if it seems stupid.
2018-01-31 19:37
DO you realize that his parents are keeping him from dropping out of school to have a short career in a game? He would only have basic education and that is a suicide. Idiots.
2018-01-31 19:40
#341
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget 
yeah, but 15k per month and lets say they will keep him for 1 year, that's plenty of money to live comfortably for few years to come back to school
2018-01-31 20:18
#328
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz 
Has to concentrate on school and plays 80hrs/2weeks. He is an absolute no-brainer.
2018-01-31 19:40
He is cheating, just like Area did
2018-01-31 19:41
#331
f0rest | 
Other XPOZ3D 
its the same story with the famous aimer Area who was beast and playing only in tier3 teams and when he was offered to join Titan he refused... year or two later he got VAC banned.The same is going to happen with Zywoo
2018-01-31 19:45
and now he is crying about that he has no future bcs no1 gives him a chance
2018-01-31 20:09
dude you can finish your fucking 6 month of school without of problems & take 15 k / month . STOP try to avoid this fact cause of school :)
2018-01-31 20:21
The real problem is why are all of you weirdos crying on the internet worried about whats hes doing with his life?
2018-01-31 20:36
School is more important at his age, and both ropz and Karrigan would tell you how hard it is to do both at a high level.
2018-01-31 21:05
School its not even university. U can finish that achool without learn and he is playin already everyday with current team. Hes just a looser cheater
2018-01-31 21:39
No cheats = no lans
2018-01-31 22:42
Good choice. Cs pro gaming is not really the most stable thing out there. i can understand why he said no.
2018-01-31 22:49
a top team won t play with somone with zero lan experience...stop dreaming with your 15K ..it s all bullshit. online and offline on b ig tournaments it s 2 different world , no teams would risk to get a contract for a player who prouved nothing offline and vs tier 1 teams. you re so stupid guys to belive all the shit on the net
2018-01-31 22:54
Except mouz did that with ropz
2018-02-01 01:22
After this - "He had offer from us(Sprout), from mouz and if u can get 15k/month (a good money) and u refuse it saying nah, fuck it [nah, i want to end school]. I don't believe it he wants to just play faceit with friends, it smells like hacks or sth"
2018-01-31 22:53
hes cheating.... for sure, his family doesn't make that in half a year
2018-02-01 01:01
#393
Friis | 
Canada uhJake 
15k a month and he says no? Shit something smells fishy. Dan M wya
2018-02-01 01:06
+1 I guess we need to hear an official statement by a respected and knowledgable persan from our community ITS TIME FOR THE DAN M SIGNAL BOIS
2018-02-01 01:44
zywoo is smart dude you can't live forever with ur cs money
2018-02-01 01:24
I would let a fat greasy bald bulgarian fuck me monthly for 15k a month, just sayin
2018-02-01 01:32
"cs will die" people been saying this for 10+ years lol if csgo dies, there will be the next cs version, etc
2018-02-01 01:43
Yep, IMO valve is waiting with source 2 just for the moment when csgo will actually starts dying. CSGO still has 500k ppl playing at the same time. Still has a lot of viewers and is gettin more every major.
2018-02-01 06:00
master in pulling figures out of your ass
2018-02-01 06:15
Delusional kid
2018-02-01 16:26
genius
2018-02-01 16:31
That's bcs he's a cheater.
2018-02-01 01:46
Maybe he wants to join better team but tough to get in such team if you actually want to focus in school. Pretty sure he will join some team when he gets school done xd
2018-02-01 06:29
#416
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Brazil Collee 
Doubt it, SK players barely win this salary from the org. They win around 20k, maybe a bit more. He probably got a 4k offer max.
2018-02-01 07:01
lol if you think being the best team means the best salary
2018-02-01 16:49
#432
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Brazil Collee 
Best CSGO lineup for two consecutive years. Pretty sure they had much better offers than a kid who never played for a tier 3 team
2018-02-01 18:06
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