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-karrigan +shox
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
So we all know that Karrigan lost FaZe the major, guy has no strats, their t side looked like shit once again, too slow, bad fakes, bad executions with no utility late in rounds, bad calls, bad reads without Guardian on this team they would of got shitted on in the finals, Guardian is a God. Now my idea is pretty simple, FaZe have money, Shox likes money, give shox money and he will join your team as IGL, your team has no strats anyway with Karrigan why not add someone like shox he's fits in really well with Olof and Guardian, one of the legends of this game, amazing skilled player who can also lead the team for me it's simple no brainer here.
2018-02-03 11:33
will never happen
2018-02-03 11:34
#3
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Why not? I also thought about Fallen but I don't think Fallen will leave BR scene ever he built that scene up it means to much to him, I know he's two faced and would probably sell his own kids for a better salary but I do not think he would ever leave BR scene.
2018-02-03 11:38
#5
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Sweden zl1ze 
-karrigan +tarik
2018-02-03 11:41
#13
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
No chance Tarik would leave a better team for FaZe.
2018-02-04 03:41
Lulz. Better team.
2018-02-04 05:17
#40
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
NA CS 1 Major FaZe 0 must really kill you inside.
2018-02-04 05:18
one match doesn't mean.better team. Results over time mean. So no brain detected
2018-02-04 05:46
#56
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Hmm take all the consistency you want major > all that shit. FaZe can say whatever they want but they can't say they've ever won a major other than Olof ofc.
2018-02-04 05:47
No,major not > . Check even hltv rating. Look for example at Gambit . Won major and nothing more serious before or after.
2018-02-04 05:50
And they moved all the way up to Top 5 if not 3 if I remember correctly
2018-02-05 21:11
Fnatic 3 majors Pronax > > > tarik
2018-02-05 04:19
#88
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Different era's I'm not even going to begin to compare players from different era's and meta's because I'm not a retard.
2018-02-05 21:20
Lol you have to admit that 3 majors is hard to get, you make it sound like c9’s win was the best in the history of cs. Fnatic’s era comes from a more competitive background with more stacked tournaments. This major most people can safely say winnner is c9/faze/g2. Sk has a stand in, astralis just got device, vp definitely not in form. Who cares if FaZe or c9 or g2 won this, underwhelming major except the finals
2018-02-06 00:26
#107
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
C9s win was the best in history of cs though no other team has beat all top 5 teams to win the major, it's the most impressive run of all time without a doubt. Fnatic's era was 2 different lineups, also going back to C9, compare this major with Astralis and Gambot's wins and you'll see those 2 teams won major without beating basically anyone good, easy bracket, shit majors then you look at C9's win and they won all the top 5 teams, hardest route possible, no easy bracket, they started off 0-2 in the qualifier, they beat sk, astralis, faze and G2, no team has ever won a major by going the hard way through the bracket and beating every team ranked higher than them it's impressive af.
2018-02-06 19:42
#48
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Other *Mip* 
2018-02-04 05:24
In case you forgot one match doesn't mean.better team. Results over time mean. So no brain detected
2018-02-04 05:45
#71
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Other *Mip* 
Where's faze's major? Thought so.
2018-02-04 22:55
Where is c9 results except major?
2018-02-05 13:07
#89
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
None else matters 100k in the pocket of each of the beautiful C9 players you are mad because of it and mad that your idol Rain couldn't win the major, I don't feel bad about it actually I'm happy the team C9 who put in all the hard work & practice won the major instead of FaZe who is just buying titles.
2018-02-05 21:22
#95
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United States dougtheduck 
Y didn’t you show New York or Oakland y this
2018-02-05 21:27
#100
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Other *Mip* 
You've already committed treason, how can you call yourself american.
2018-02-06 00:28
#113
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Singapore Wadufuk 
What treason did he commit?even though he is american,he have the rights to support other teams,childish as fuck
2018-03-14 09:50
#117
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Other *Mip* 
responding to something over a month after it was posted on HLTV, go do something fun.
2018-03-15 00:33
#118
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Singapore Wadufuk 
Do u have any problems with it???
2018-03-15 03:41
#120
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Other *Mip* 
no
2018-03-15 04:04
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH TARIK WORST IGL NA
2018-03-15 03:44
#6
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Finland Jodecast 
worst idea ever...
2018-02-03 11:42
#12
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Proof?
2018-02-04 03:40
#64
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Finland Jodecast 
add someone who is a amazing rifle but is not a good igl and has never played in a english speaking team
2018-02-04 12:36
#90
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France VeryG2Guy 
Epsilon? He played with guardian
2018-02-05 21:22
#96
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France VeryG2Guy 
2018-02-05 21:27
#91
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Ok when will you provide proof though?
2018-02-05 21:23
Karrigan won't leave FaZe anytime soon. That would just be backstabbing him he build the team and is doing so much for the team at the moment.
2018-02-03 11:42
#16
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
I'm not saying for him to leave I'm quite literally saying for them to kick him, he isn't needed and he isn't bringing anything to this team, the only thing he accomplished is he's getting carried by a another team from Fnatic to Dignitas/TSM/Astralis and now FaZe guy has been enjoying the free carry his whole career it's time they kick him so he can go back to the tier 7 Danish team where he belongs.
2018-02-04 03:42
U sound mad! Next time dont bet ur house. Flusha fan luuul all explained...
2018-02-04 03:51
#31
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
what do you mean? I could care less but I think Karrigan is holding this team back from being top 1 and dominating SK Gaming so fuck him and let's bring in someone who can actually do the task at hand.
2018-02-04 05:09
When did they dominate sk? From different players that faze had, they never could dominate sk, what are you even talking about. You couldn't care less but you make a post about it, makes sense from a no-brainer like you with negative iq
2018-02-04 13:19
#69
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Learn to read before replying to me please, the fact you are talking shit and you can't even read English is fucking stupid fake flagging Pollack they don't teach you English in your shit country?
2018-02-04 20:29
U have autism + super negative iq so it's all explained there! Ahahhah u still think I'm polak, ok negative iq
2018-02-04 20:42
#94
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Negative iq is actually not possible so the fact you use that as an insult and expect me to be offended by that just makes you look even worse than your previous statements. Why are you even trying to insult me in a language you don't even know the basics of? You're either Brazilian or Polish, obvious fake flagger only those two on this site write this poorly and think they're so smart and sick when really they are 3rd world.
2018-02-05 21:27
Ok teacher correct my mistakes then... and don't come with mistakes about u because u will be even more retard than u are! And like I've said I'm not at school to type perfect for a retard like U! Well with yr negative iq u got offended Yes, bcs all you tried to come up the whole with ahhh ur english is bad bla bla. And no for ur stupid brain I'm neither bronzilian neither poorllack but yeah nt kid with autism
2018-02-06 12:05
#109
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
You're actually a sub human and I feel bad for you not even going to try to read your comment above, it's just to retarded and contains 3rd world English.
2018-02-06 19:45
U mean that ur country is 3rd world? Yup I agree
2018-02-06 19:49
#112
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
My country has the highest GDP per capita in the entire world.
2018-02-06 19:52
What? You’re so dumb omfg Shox might kill more but he has no strats, look at g2, if you’re only talking about the major, they played so bad compared to Faze, couldn’t even get 10 rounds against c9, clean 2-0. And a shit fluke doesn’t mean c9 is better than faze, or sk, as you even saw, sk just won against c9 on wesg, where’s Tarik now? Smh
2018-02-06 12:10
#110
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Who tf cares idiot.
2018-02-06 19:46
i think you seem like a delusional faze fan
2018-02-04 05:10
#42
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
He has the Virtus Premier flare so you can see he's delusional no matter what.
2018-02-04 05:19
Ur nickname explains it, how can I be faze fan if I don't even have them as a fan, holly fuck some kids in this hltv really have autism and negative iq
2018-02-04 13:17
Stop blaming Karrigan, he didn't lose them the bloody major you fucking sheep. Just regurgitating shit people say because you can't form your own bloody opinions.
2018-02-03 11:44
#17
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
He lost them the major along with NiKo and Rain who are usually their best players and both of them had low impact, like i said in the original post without Guardian in this team they would of lost probably 16-0 or something similar to cloud 9 on the first 2 maps.
2018-02-04 03:43
No matter how many strats u might have if ur players aren't doing great and doing dumb plays like niko did then ofc it's gg
2018-02-04 03:53
#33
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Why would I not blame Karrigan? He is clearly the main player holding this roster back from being top 1.
2018-02-04 05:13
Ofc typical kids will say this every time, for you kills is everything, well if kills is everything then how about rain and Nino start getting kills?! I guess your iq is way bellow negative because you don't even understand what strats are...
2018-02-04 13:16
SHOX is a terrible igl and stoped igling in G2;dont know if is a bait but if its not you're really retarded
2018-02-03 11:44
#20
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Shox is better IGL than Karrigan and better player how is this concept hard to understand? It's quite literally a straight up upgrade in every way, also nice fake flag no French guy is that dumb.
2018-02-04 03:45
CS is way more complex than u think, man
2018-02-04 11:58
He is retarded confirmed
2018-02-04 03:53
#35
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Nice fake flag Pollack.
2018-02-04 05:13
Nice brains with negative iq, but you see just by me liking vp doesn't make a Pollack, and for ur info and little brain I'm no Pollack, neither I have relatives to them, but yeah nt..
2018-02-04 13:14
#81
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Well you write like a Pollack first of all your grammar is giving me cancer, you're a VP fan, enough people already calling you delusional etc. You can change flag to anything you want, everyone can see you're Polish.
2018-02-05 21:02
Ok negative iq, keep thinking im pollack. Ofc after you get rekt and you saw that ur iq is negative, you come up with everyone's excuses ohh bla bla ur english is bad....I'm not at school to type perfect you mongoloid, but yeah you showed enough how stupid and how little to no brains you have
2018-02-06 12:01
#108
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Keep going sub human.
2018-02-06 19:43
Shox wants to be a star player that is why he won't join FaZe
2018-02-03 11:44
#30
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
That's exactly what FaZe wants more star players. Also FaZe wants to win shit or else they wouldn't be spending all this money for this lineup I'm sure if NiKo continues to choke in finals they will eventually kick him to doesn't matter how good you are if you play really poorly in the finals and make it hard for your team to win events.
2018-02-04 04:18
Lulz. He is way worse igl. Use ye brain and eyes
2018-02-04 05:18
#43
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Shox is a godlike player he just needs the right players in his team for his play style to be effective, FaZe provides that.
2018-02-04 05:20
He is fine player no qauestions, but he shit igl
2018-02-04 05:44
>karrigan has no strats >shox stopped being the IGL for G2 0/8
2018-02-04 03:41
#36
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Apex way of calling "do everything Shox taught us and I will say that I was calling so he stops taking unnecessary blame for every time we fail"
2018-02-04 05:14
shox in 2018 LUL
2018-02-04 03:42
He was shit at being IGL, both IGLing and fragging. He needs to be a star, wouldn't fit.
2018-02-04 03:44
#38
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Was really good IGL in 2016 for G2, he just doesn't have the right players around for his play style nothing more, NBK is really inconsistent and bad, Apex is inconsistent, kennyS is the only tier 1 player they have atm, botyy is alright nothing special nothing bad etc TBH for the lineup he has to work with atm 5 titles in 2017 seems like an over performance, unlike FaZe Olof and Guardian are still good, many of the players in G2 USED TO BE GOOD.
2018-02-04 05:16
-karrigan +fallen -guardian +shox ez top 1
2018-02-04 03:46
#44
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
-guardian? This has to be a bait right?
2018-02-04 05:22
-guardian +fallen -karrigan +cold -olof +fer -rain +boltz -niko +taco top1 confirmed
2018-02-04 22:59
I arent argue against that
2018-02-05 04:08
#22
shox | 
World finedenim 
OP = or greater than autism. End of Story.
2018-02-04 03:48
#46
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
OP hahah go back to reddit kid people who have their own opinions are on this site no echo chamber here.
2018-02-04 05:22
No niko choker
2018-02-04 03:55
#47
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
If he keeps choking in finals they will eventually kick him, FaZe wants to win it's pretty obvious with the amount of money they drop on this lineup.
2018-02-04 05:23
His rating didn’t reflect but he had so many high impact plays though. I think people are a bit harsh on him for his performance against c9. Could’ve been better but not as bad as people make out to be.
2018-02-05 13:10
#82
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
I watched in the finals he made 1 play and it was more about luck than skill, C9 made a mistake having the last guy on the bottom of banana with the bomb, NiKo was terrible in the major finals.
2018-02-05 21:05
#27
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Portugal superkuzza 
I hope they do not change the team just for this defeat, shit happens
2018-02-04 04:03
-bot +bot nice change
2018-02-04 04:10
#49
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
-no brain +brain Go to school kid.
2018-02-04 05:25
-Karrigan -NIKO +s1mple +Fallen
2018-02-04 04:11
#34
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Brazil Collee 
Karrigan brought GuardiaN back, improved olof and rain's game a lot, made NiKo a threat to coldzera. Don't know why people hate him so much, he's a key factor on FaZe's success, made every player improve a lot. Only igl I think that would make the team improve is FalleN, which obviously won't happen
2018-02-04 05:14
#51
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Improved Olof is false he was still good when Fnatic was bad, this guy never chokes and is always solid no matter the situation. Guardian again false Guardian was never bad he just lost motivation on Na'vi and stop trying big difference, I think Guardian's pay check each month and having chance to play in an actual good team is what brought the motivation back with him. "Only igl I think that would make the team improve is FalleN, which obviously won't happen" How about Golden? Fnatic look way better with him atm, and best of all they have some decent strats now because Golden has a much different style than Pronax/Flusha had where he brings in more tactical approaches to situations Fnatic used to just brute force. Before Golden and after Golden is night and day this guy did a shit ton of work for Fnatic and I respect/appreciate that. "Only igl I think that would make the team improve is FalleN" Not even remotely accurate, Fallens approach is to kick players for better ones nothing more to say about it, he kicks players like its nothing doesn't even feel bad for them tells them to get the f off the team, brings in better players and they start winning wow he IMPROVED those guys hahah nice try. Also if we use Boltz as an example the complete opposite happen to what you're saying he kicked him like nothing and he got better playing in a different team called immortals before he kicks Felp to take Boltz back again nice try bb.
2018-02-04 05:32
#59
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Brazil Collee 
I don't care if GuardiaN was motivated or not. He was playing like shit, period. His change to FaZe made him a much better player, you can't remove all the credit karrigan has just like this. Having only motivation won't make you the best AWPer in the world again, you need a decent team with a decent igl who knows how to work with each player. Olofmeister wasn't playing bad, true, I never said he was, but he's doing much better on FaZe. Rain is another player after the latest FaZe changes. He was much more inconsistent until like mid 2016. He only became better with time from that period to what we have today. NiKo jumped from being the 11th best in the world to 2nd The other things you said are just an absurd. I know it's a bait after the FalleN things you said, even pointing Golden as a better option, but I'll still reply since the first part didn't look like. FalleN kept the same 3 players(and him) since the end of 2015. Both fnx and felps were kicked because they started lacking motivation, fnx didn't want to practice with the team and felps wanted to come back to Brazil and forget about the game for a few months. Again, you can't take all the credit from the igl. He's clearly the best igl for two consecutive years now, the roster changes he made always renewed the lineup to a point where they became a much better team. Putting Golden as a better option than FalleN is just laughable. Guy isn't close to be as skilled, his shot calling made fnatic improve a lot, but it's still not enough to even get to the finals of a tournament. He still needs to prove himself a lot, unlike FalleN, he's far from being a safe pick, let alone be better than an igl who won a shit ton of tournaments in the last two years while being the 2nd best player in one of them - which never happened to any igl as far as I remember - maybe not even in 1.6
2018-02-04 06:02
#61
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
You are a delusional fan boy no fucking way in hell I would read that wall of text, keep sucking off Fallen you blind fanboy literally kicks all the shit players in the team for better players and you have the actual balls to say he improved those players you're at a new level of delusion it's so pathetic, if Boltz didn't go play for a different team he would still be the shit brainless pug player he was for KeyD/Luminosity. Fallen takes talent and gives the opportunities, he takes players and gets them the LAN experience they need to give him all the credit for the hard work those players did is not just wrong but pathetic by all standards don't even reply to me I had enough of your bullshitting.
2018-02-04 06:06
#98
shox | 
United Arab Emirates R4SH4SH 
Lmao why are you so mad and angry?? however I do agree with you though, Fallen takes talented players who he sees have potential and then gives them play time to see how well they play and how good they really are.
2018-02-05 21:41
While karrigan hasnt won them a major, but they did win a lot of tournaments last year. Making to major finals can not be looked down upon either. They have legend status and they will get another shot at it. Till then dont think they are going to make a change.
2018-02-04 05:15
#52
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Nothing impressive when there are 500 tournaments a year, even G2 won 5 titles. The saturation is insane atm.
2018-02-04 05:33
Well first- G2 has been utterly inconsistent. Only thing you can say about them is that they havent improved. In my personal opinion their playstyle itself is more risk prone which can be sometimes beneficial but mostly not. On the other hand faze had an upward trajectory since olof joined. They peaked well towards the major and made it to final. Who would be so stupid to sack him just after that?
2018-02-04 05:48
#83
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
I would of sacked him way before the major maybe even months prior he's just terrible, he's a terrible player and FaZe after all this time with Karrigan still have no t side strats, I just do not get what he is doing for this team? Seems the same as with Astralis he does nothing, he just does nothing and he's bad so it hard to say anything positive about him.
2018-02-05 21:09
It's so funny, people tend to forget how bad FaZe was without karrigan. Even his own teammates praise him as an IGL. FaZe is fine, just some players weren't performing during the grand final of the major. That has nothing to do with him. Don't try to fix something that isn't broken. If anything should be fixed in that lineup, it's NiKo's tilting. He gets so mad he can't even get his game going at times.
2018-02-04 05:22
Faze were up 15-11 against a Halfbuy and lost. they choked hard
2018-02-04 05:27
Change Karrigan as much as you want, NiKo will still choke.
2018-02-04 06:05
#86
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
ayyy, true but that can change look at device for example no way Astralis would of won a major early 2017 if Device continued to choke, what's more unlikely to happen though is Karrigan actually performing well and teaching his team some t side strats etc.
2018-02-05 21:17
0/8
2018-02-04 06:31
Guardian read this btw.
2018-02-05 13:26
#87
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Not the first time he's read one of my topics tbh, in 2015 I made a topic about how kennyS was better than him providing all statistics, results, team achievements, titles etc etc and he personally replied in my thread calling me a retard.
2018-02-05 21:15
shox > faze
2018-02-05 21:11
#92
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Sweden yayer 
baegares*
2018-02-05 21:24
#93
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Sweden godname 
will never happend cuz shox can´t frag when he igl you saw that last year
2018-02-05 21:24
Really nice idea. Atleast Shoxi has experience in the finals and sometimes he does good calls. Faze's IGL literally gifted the Major trophy of C9.
2018-02-05 21:29
bad bait kick a shit player that can igl for a shit player that cant igl IarentThinkThatz
2018-02-06 00:29
#115
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Shox ain't shit. He's decent
2018-03-14 09:53
yeah, but at least put him to frag xd "shox igl" LUL
2018-03-14 11:52
#104
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Netherlands Suchknife 
lol if Shox joins FaZe, this will probably be a new era like the old fnatic. Just too confident and win anything till a team makes retarted strats
2018-02-06 12:05
-karrigan +sixer
2018-02-06 12:13
#114
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Gla1ve is actually a very good choice for FaZe but I still think they don't need any fucking change. I love them as it is.
2018-03-14 09:52
Nice grammar
2018-03-15 04:22
#122
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Switzerland sovereiign 
karrigan didn't cost them the major. karrigan is not the problem.
2018-03-15 04:31
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