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MUH CONSTITUTION
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Muh guns should be muh right i want muh liberties thecfounding fathers died for our sins so i can haz muh guns from walmart P.s. mcdonalds is good i aint fat just big boned cuz of muh genetics #MAGA trump will keep schools safe from gunz
2018-02-14 23:05
ok
2018-02-14 23:05
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Noobster | 
Lithuania zilvA 
wtf is wrong with u
2018-02-14 23:06
#3
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD RELEASE HER EMAILS
2018-02-14 23:07
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Noobster | 
Lithuania zilvA 
wtf is wrong with u
2018-02-14 23:07
#5
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
#MAGA
2018-02-14 23:07
#6
Noobster | 
Lithuania zilvA 
? reply needs to have actu
2018-02-14 23:08
#7
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
M... MAGA...?
2018-02-14 23:08
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Noobster | 
Lithuania zilvA 
? actual needs to have reply
2018-02-14 23:08
#9
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
MAGA...
2018-02-14 23:09
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Noobster | 
Lithuania zilvA 
ooga booga
2018-02-14 23:09
#53
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United States barsad 
KYS autist WE KEEP OUR GUNS. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES DEMOCRATS TRY TO FAKE THESE SHOOTINGS WE WILL RESIST AND KEEP OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS FUCK YOU LEFTY FAG
2018-02-15 03:17
+respect
2018-02-15 03:45
fake these shootings? care to explain?
2018-02-15 11:06
fell for bait
2018-02-15 13:08
#95
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
How about them Clinton emails aye!
2018-02-15 12:47
Build the wall!
2018-02-14 23:09
#12
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Netherlands davin 
2018-02-14 23:11
fucking LOL
2018-02-15 03:05
#73
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United States VerySmartGuy 
"tip shooter" LMAO
2018-02-15 03:56
loool
2018-02-16 00:20
Expected from leftist to exploit tragedies like this right after they happen.
2018-02-15 03:01
asking for gun control isnt exploiting, its common sense
2018-02-15 03:10
Its no different to calling for immigration control right after a terrorist attack. U exploit the situation.
2018-02-15 03:16
#60
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United States Sheenaynay 
It's not exploitation its reminding Republicans that they aren't fucking doing anything to prevent more shootings from happening in the future. Sadly, with America's current political situation, we can't focus on one idea for too long b/c Trump derails every conversation with his idiotic actions and scandals, and our partisan politics prevent anything from happening in congress. We move meaninglessly from issue to issue in congress, and these tragedies remind us that we NEED to do something.
2018-02-15 03:24
#63
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South Africa rAwRzZz 
Blaming one party is retarded. Blame the party system. It serves no purpose but ensure the parties and party leaders retain power. You want to change something? You have to go through and ultimately be drowned out by the system. It is impossible to solve every "problem" because the party system has polarized most of America when it comes to most issues. Insuring not much will change and thus those the parties keep their power.
2018-02-15 03:29
#65
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United States Sheenaynay 
I agree the entire system is fucked, and in most other regards fault lies on both sides of party lines. I don't think every problem is due to just Republicans or just Democrats - issues and corruption run deep on each side. I mean specifically for this issue - Democrats are consistently always the ones trying to move forward and work at preventing tragedies from happening again; Republicans are consistently always the ones tweeting "thoughts and prayers" then pointing fingers when Democrats try to open up a conversation about gun control (bc gun corps have money deep in Republican pockets). Democrats want policies on guns, Republicans want God to intervene. It's ridiculous.
2018-02-15 03:35
it is exploiting. you just call it a different thing. if we switched immigration with gun control and terrorism with school shooting you'd say something else. whenever that happens dumb liberals are the ones posting pictures of tearful cartoons and facebook filters in response and accusing others of exploiting situations when they actually want something meaningful done.
2018-02-15 07:43
the idea to compare both surely is tempting. heres one of the flaws: countries that have stricter gun control got less (school) shootings. theres no way around it.
2018-02-15 11:17
Really? And about countries with strict gun control but the population leaves in fear and the murder by guns is superior to even war countries (Brazil im looking at you) What about countries where everyone and their dog has a gun but no school shooting happens and violence is not rampant (Switzerland?) School shootings in America seem much more related to a rotten and abortive society than anything else.
2018-02-15 12:51
maybe its not a bad idea to take a good look at your immigration policy if guys can legally immigrate and then blow shit up and it turns out they were radical for 10 years before they got a visa. but that doesnt happen much in the US. domestic terrorism is much bigger. as current events are showing. stopping immigrants wont fix that.
2018-02-15 14:58
#122
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Europe tweekzter 
His point still stands.
2018-02-17 03:08
#62
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United States Sheenaynay 
Republicans saying that that leftists are "exploiting tragedies" literally just serves to push blame away from their unwillingness to DO ANYTHING onto Democrats for trying to make a change that would prevent further tragedies. Its a fucking totally illogical claim I never understood.
2018-02-15 03:26
+1 plus, its funny how its the first thing they do with border control demands when there is a supposedly terrorist attack (even before they fucking know any details)
2018-02-15 11:18
i agree lol. what better time is it to speak about gun control after a school shooting? is there a time limit where calling for gun control after a shooting is acceptable where it isn't "exploiting".
2018-02-16 00:25
+1
2018-02-15 13:21
#14
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United States celesten 
guns are necessary tho
2018-02-15 03:02
#112
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
+1 in France on the WWI, a minister said he prefers let germany invades us than giving weapon to the people. Why ? Because once the people had kick the germans ass, they will turn them guns against the rich class to get more equality
2018-02-16 12:07
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Australia anxy 
Leftist sperging out, nothing to see here folks, happens every time
2018-02-15 03:03
just some innocent people getting shot because some people think its a good idea to give everyone guns even though a lot of people clearly cannot deal with that responsibility. move along folks
2018-02-15 03:10
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South Africa rAwRzZz 
FYI if you aren't a troll/b8r: Millions of innocent people die every year. But what does the world do about? Nothing. We don't spend a significant amount of money on fighting poverty, diseases etc. Instead we essentially give all our money to the banks and the top top percent, who actually do fuck all but use our money to make more money whilst charging us for it. It's like you said.... Move along folks. Focus on some talking point for a while and not the big picture. Now ask yourself who does that favor? The people at the top of course
2018-02-15 03:42
poverty and diseases are difficult issues. reducing the amount of guns in the US is less complicated. all they have to do is stop producing them by the millions so black market prices go up and implement some form of gun control so not every angry guy can buy an assault rifle and shoot 30 people
2018-02-15 03:54
guns save 250x more people than they kill. The chances of you getting shot AT ALL (including gangs, by cops and everything), is 0.0003%.
2018-02-15 04:29
i can pull statistics out of my ass too. Banning guns would save 300 milllion lives a year
2018-02-15 11:05
these were reported by the Washington post, so you're saying they pull statistics out of their ass as well?
2018-02-16 00:17
yes. guns kill people. guns dont save people. jesus saves people.
2018-02-16 11:56
And you've lost the argument, and have proceeded to bait.
2018-02-16 13:42
the only people who lose in this argument are the ones that keep getting shot while youre talking instead of acting, bro.
2018-02-16 13:45
I don't see you acting?
2018-02-16 18:56
schools in NL arent getting shot up every week. Fix your own problem, jeesh.
2018-02-16 19:54
you are a hypocrite then, you call out out for not acting out, but don't do it yourself. Don't call out others when you are guilty of the same thing.
2018-02-17 01:22
It's not my responsibility. It is your people who are getting killed, not mine.
2018-02-17 01:28
so you cant berate me for not acting when you're in another country and doing nothing
2018-02-17 03:00
i can and i will
2018-02-17 03:49
#89
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Germany maestroCS 
and thus 5 times higher than in countries with gun controll such as germany,
2018-02-15 11:09
I agree that gun control is an issue in the US, but saying that they kill all the time is incorrect. Gun laws need to be severe though, and people with any sort of out of the ordinary background need to be closely investigated before being granted a firearm.
2018-02-16 00:18
How's that going to happen if the corporations producing guns are lobbying for legislation to prevent heavier regulations so that they have a wider reach to consumers? The first fallacy people make is thinking that a corporations best interests are in the consumer. Their main interest is generating revenue, whether you want to believe it or not.
2018-02-16 20:04
I 100% believe it, and that's the problem with these corporations, and their interest in profit rather than safety.
2018-02-17 01:23
#16
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North America pSilent 
Oh, the biting wit! Bravo, my friend!
2018-02-15 03:04
have you ever read our constitution?
2018-02-15 03:05
#19
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United States celesten 
+1 our constitution is very vague
2018-02-15 03:06
not really, the second amendment is very direct
2018-02-15 03:07
#22
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United States celesten 
''the right to keep and bear arms'' sounds vague about rules to me
2018-02-15 03:07
thats not the whole amendment, and what is vague about that it says we have the right to own weapons to defend ourselves
2018-02-15 03:08
#26
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United States celesten 
yes, but im referring about how it doesn't lay out specific rules, because our guns didn't exist back then...
2018-02-15 03:09
yeah I agree with that because the founders knew that firearms would get more advanced as time went on and they werent only talking about muskets which a lot of people think
2018-02-15 03:10
okay this is where you go from shit tier baiter to delusional
2018-02-15 03:11
you know nothing about anything being discussed, you might be the most ignorant person on this site right now
2018-02-15 03:14
D E L U S I O N A L
2018-02-15 03:17
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Ace | 
United States f00bar 
okay this is where you go from shit tier baiter to shit tier baiter
2018-02-15 04:22
#82
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United States qkrtz 
The type of guns we have now doesn’t affect the 2nd amendment. We have guns to stop the government from being tyrannical. That’s the directness of the 2nd amendment and that’s the reason it comes in at a whopping one sentence long, it doesn’t need to be anymore clearer than it is
2018-02-15 04:27
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Australia anxy 
In what way
2018-02-15 03:06
#24
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United States celesten 
it leaves things open for future interpretation, letting present lawmakers decide how to appropriately enforce it
2018-02-15 03:08
#32
Australia anxy 
It really doesn't, it's only leftists judges using mental gymnastics to say it allows things which it doesn't, textualists who interpret it as it is actually written like Neil Gorusch are conservative for a reason
2018-02-15 03:11
#34
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United States celesten 
I'm guessing you haven't read the bill of rights nor the constitution
2018-02-15 03:12
#36
Australia anxy 
I have, I think you should look up textualism
2018-02-15 03:12
#41
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United States celesten 
but the constitution was meant to be interpreted and applied to our lives today when it was written
2018-02-15 03:14
#43
Australia anxy 
Where did you get that idea? It was written as a direct result to British oppression
2018-02-15 03:15
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South Africa rAwRzZz 
Ultimately it comes down to wether or not it's a living document or not. Does/can the meaning change over time? Some judges and ruling say yes and others no. It wasn't explicitly stated. If all the judges decided so, they could rule what ever the fuck they wanted. Appealing ends at the supreme court not the constitution.
2018-02-15 03:23
#61
Australia anxy 
Which is why I brought up textualism and why they are conservative, because the leftists use their ideas of what a piece of text was meant to say rather than what it actually says, textualists are conservative because the writers of the Constitution were conservative
2018-02-15 03:24
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South Africa rAwRzZz 
Yeah I'm agreeing/restating what you said. But also stating that it doesn't actually matter at the end of day what the courts say stands unless Congress writes legislation stating otherwise, which never happens because it's so political and polarized. PS. superappelfap is a low tier b8r, ignore him
2018-02-15 03:33
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United States f00bar 
"Interpretation" is nothing more than a bullshit phrase that allows for additional text to be added to a clearly outlined document.
2018-02-15 04:24
those are some nice buzzwords youre using there did you go to the jonty school of spewing bs?
2018-02-15 03:12
#81
Ace | 
United States f00bar 
None of that contained a buzzword. Grow a brain
2018-02-15 04:25
go finger jontys asshole some more
2018-02-15 11:04
#93
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United States f00bar 
Shove words in your own mouth
2018-02-15 11:23
then what exactly would be the problem with the govt banning everything that shoots faster than a musket?
2018-02-15 03:12
#37
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United States celesten 
there isn't a problem with it, as long as people have access to firearms then its not a violation, however you can see how that could be bad if the gov only allows weak firearms
2018-02-15 03:13
you realize, i hope, that your govt has tanks. and aircraft carriers. and aircraft. and drones. they can kill everyone in the whole country a couple times over in one morning. there is no problem that can be caused by weak firearms that you dont already have. you cant win with assault rifles vs tanks. you just like to have this shared fantasy of rising up in revolution.
2018-02-15 03:16
#47
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United States celesten 
that is true lol gotta find a balance i guess
2018-02-15 03:16
a balance between delusions and people getting murdered i guess its what you think is important in life....???
2018-02-15 03:16
#55
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United States celesten 
too bad people value the ability to go purchase a gun with no training or license (in some places) over kids dying in their schools
2018-02-15 03:17
#42
Australia anxy 
Then you could have a tyrannical government like you have in Europe where your rights such as freedom of speech are infringed upon
2018-02-15 03:14
that bait is so shit i cant even find words
2018-02-15 03:15
#48
Australia anxy 
Resort to a strawman fallacy because you can't disagree with me, nice
2018-02-15 03:16
its not a strawman, you are shit at baiting
2018-02-15 03:16
#49
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United States celesten 
only in eastern europe xd
2018-02-15 03:16
#54
Australia anxy 
Holocaust denial laws are largely in Western Europe, then you also have hate speech laws, so no, it's largely in Western Europe where they infringe upon free speech
2018-02-15 03:17
#57
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United States celesten 
saying its illegal to deny the holocaust happened is a problem to you? lol
2018-02-15 03:19
#58
Australia anxy 
Yes? Why outlaw ideas? Every idea should be discussed no matter whether you disagree with it or not, that's the whole point of being in a democratic mature society
2018-02-15 03:21
#78
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United States f00bar 
Questioning a statement should be illegal? Jackass.
2018-02-15 04:15
#23
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China NA_LUL 
expected from france "liberte, egalite, fraternite" = let muslims in to rape women
2018-02-15 03:07
france lul
2018-02-15 03:09
#38
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Italy steven513 
cxcxcxcx
2018-02-15 03:14
#72
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France mintzz 
Yeah because every muslim rapes here. I live around a major city, lived in a "hot" neighborhood for most of my life, never anyone around me had rape issues with them. It's just as much with anyone. We're not even taking that many refugees, most are brought out. I would prefer we don't take any, kindness is overrated honestly. I know you're baiting but I'm just informing people. Before people talk about France and the rest of Europe, they should look at Africa, the middle East, Asia (China for example) and South America. Just have to check that thread that was posted a few days ago where some south americans are savagely killing people and these ones aren't muslims at all, pretty funny isn't it?
2018-02-15 03:53
#74
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China NA_LUL 
no muslims, no guns in china = low crime ez solution
2018-02-15 04:01
#75
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France mintzz 
Videos I've seen proved otherwise. A country of mostly incompetent conditionned robots led by a rich minority. Yet some woman can get beat up to death in public while people ignore or just watch it happen. Good one.
2018-02-15 04:02
when you try to mock America using conservatism but forget that half of our country are actually conservatives that would agree with you
2018-02-15 03:14
you know the vast majority of people want more regulation of guns, right? it's only the Trump cucks who think limiting guns means no handguns or anything. worst part is some people actually think assault rifles are good. im in my 12th year, and one of my friends truly thinks we need assault rifles because they're fun to shoot. and to think, there's retards with that same philosophy running around all over America... shitty world
2018-02-15 03:18
#68
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North America Baltimore52 
-1
2018-02-15 03:48
#70
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Italy steven513 
+1 Those kinds of people... are the special ones. But, everyone to their own, right?
2018-02-15 03:50
#69
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France mintzz 
Said it a hundred times. Regular psychological checks for gun owners. Those who want guns should get courses to learn the value of life and what it means to actually own a weapon. Obviously schools and parents should not casualize weapons and actually teach the values from the very beginning. Certain guns should not be acquired by the regular folk, military type automatic weapons are dangerous. Shooting certain weapons should be allowed within shootings ranges, where you borrow the gun for the time you're in the shooting area and that is it. For everybody, 3-9 months in the army between age 18-21 to teach discipline, respect, society values, the value of human life, the proper use of a weapon and how not to use it. The huge problem is education.
2018-02-15 03:49
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United States f00bar 
The whole purpose of the 2nd amendment is to prevent tyranny against the people. Inserting bureaucracy into the process with hamhanded "psychological checks" (that are extremely subjective just by the nature of psychology) places those who are to have their power checked in control of the checking process. Legislate your own country. Looks really cool with all your gangraping muslims.
2018-02-15 04:13
#98
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France mintzz 
Right, you're going to defend yourself against tyranny. The army would blow any rebellion off the face of the Earth. Difference in technology makes it that way. Do you not see the danger of having military weapons into the hands of anyone? Do you believe in conspiracies aswell? Doctors getting paid to make false diagnostics? Gangraping muslims? None of that here, sorry. But I see what kind of person you are..believing anything you are told or see on the internet and assume it's true. Our problems are social, not ethnic nor religious and we are actively ACTUALLY changing that for the best and I've seen the changes, in my own city. Everything needs to change at some point, your ways are obsolete and archaic, even the way you split people into race categories which is scientifically wrong. Children deserve better than stubborn parents who don't think gun laws are a problem. How come so many young people snap and shoot their school? Education, psychology, easy access to military weaponry. We are allowed to have guns here, it's regulated though. Do you see many school shootings here? Yeah mention terrorists and the presence of muslims once more. They still haven't killed nearly as much as gun violence in the US. The casualties in your country are similar to countries at war.
2018-02-15 13:06
+31934348274928
2018-02-15 13:17
#76
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United Kingdom camzh 
"Donald Trump is literally Hitler!" "The 2nd amendment exists to prevent government tyranny? that's stupid that would never happen!" liberals lul
2018-02-15 04:07
#85
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Europe m9_ 
lmao the crime happened with an illegal firearm how is the second amendment even relevant...fucking disrespectful moron
2018-02-15 07:43
#94
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
The shooter posted a box full of shells on social media, saying it only cost him $50. Firearms would be useless, without easily obtained ammo. Fucking moron. #themoreyouknow
2018-02-15 12:48
blame the fucked up parenting and fucked up kid not the gun law u damn retards.
2018-02-15 11:12
#97
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Norway Asiimov 
YEEHAW GUUUNS!
2018-02-15 12:51
why would a dutch care about murican gun laws, none of your business
2018-02-15 13:19
+1
2018-02-15 13:22
#108
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United Kingdom BIGfanofBIG 
+1
2018-02-16 00:20
nothing surprises me about merica they elected a moron (attention trumptards this doesnt mean im a leftist or a clinton fan)
2018-02-16 00:23
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