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Poland shadyyourmaker 
Still waiting for Americans to say 'Guns should still be legal'
2018-02-15 00:33
#1
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Netherlands kick_sexer_ffs 
+1
2018-02-15 00:33
Canadian-American here. I think they should be legal but much more heavily regulated than they are. I think it's insane that in some states you can just go out and buy a weapon that can be used to easily end someone's life.
2018-02-15 03:01
There are more gunshops than either Mcdonalds or Starbucks in America, don't know for sure which it was but it was one those.
2018-02-15 03:09
#244
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United States kriksB 
Definitely starbucks. The furthest away you can get from a McDonalds here is 45 minutes
2018-02-15 03:54
#281
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Netherlands ThatHltvGuy 
Well good thing, because obesity kills way more people than guns do.
2018-02-15 11:40
#262
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Romania samantarul 
You do realize that most sociopaths blend in and don't show signs of insanity till they kill someone. Guns should be illegal
2018-02-15 04:22
#280
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Netherlands ThatHltvGuy 
Actually the rules on buying a gun from a dealer are pretty strict in most states.
2018-02-15 11:40
lul ur lowkey right
2018-02-15 00:34
#5
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Poland shadyyourmaker 
and you're alpha as fuck all around the board.
2018-02-15 00:36
#99
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United Kingdom Roarhaven 
America, where you can’t drink alcohol at 18 but can go buy an AR-15. Greatest country in the world OMEGALUL
2018-02-15 01:31
#133
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
brainwashed muricans incomming Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-02-15 02:06
#142
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United States debobFL 
XD most Americans are fucking dumbasses who don't know shit about the actual context of the creation of the second amendment and are too sheepish to know otherwise. Private Guns are unnecessary and have only contributed to large crime and death
2018-02-15 02:12
#169
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
+1 muricans with brain <3 Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-02-15 02:34
#247
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United States kriksB 
Dont forget only half of our voting population doesn't want gun control therefore 50 percent arent as stupid as you think, most people want basic gun control (as do I)
2018-02-15 03:57
#154
JW | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
I really don’t get it. Have a nice day too <3
2018-02-15 02:19
it's their fault, they have guns to defend themselves
2018-02-15 00:34
#4
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Germany Cheaterino 
Didnt worked out well, did it?
2018-02-15 00:35
Well if every teacher got a gun school shootings are impossible
2018-02-15 00:37
impossible? are you stupid?
2018-02-15 00:44
yeah, trade frag is easy if everyone got a gun, 2 dead ppl instead of 20.
2018-02-15 00:47
#43
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North America Phyxda 
If I go into a server and 400 people have knives and only 1 has gun I kill all 400 of them gg noob
2018-02-15 00:54
#47
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Portugal RAPM 
if u have ammo to kill them all
2018-02-15 00:56
#51
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North America Phyxda 
Thanks I'll remember to carry more
2018-02-15 00:58
#52
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Portugal RAPM 
get 2 negevs
2018-02-15 00:59
#56
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North America Phyxda 
Chu say cmonBruh
2018-02-15 01:01
#69
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Nepal hpbaxx 
get 2 young cheap negevs to carry your ammo around
2018-02-15 01:07
#70
Xyp9x | 
Denmark KrynexCS 
HYPERBRUH mods?
2018-02-15 01:07
#35
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France frightn 
if schools had any sort of a security force with access to any sort of weapons it would be impossible
2018-02-15 00:50
yeah, i think every school should have their own SWAT team would be the best solution tbh
2018-02-15 00:58
the shooter just wait outside or on the bus stop... u cant stop those guys... u create a sick society where not everyone fits and give them free access to guns... shit gonna happen, anyone who has a simplstic solution is delusional
2018-02-15 01:40
#124
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France frightn 
ok the school shooter will wait outside for whatever security should be there in the first place? and then you think that the attacker will get anything done?
2018-02-15 01:56
man, my father is a specialist in securty, he was responsible for the securty of many important ppl... u cant stop those guys... if each kid had a body guard maybe... but how the hell will u provide security in every bus for example? a crazy like that just get a bus full of students right after school and kill them all...
2018-02-15 02:00
#226
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France frightn 
0/8
2018-02-15 03:04
#218
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Morocco benak 
+1
2018-02-15 03:00
your such a retard
2018-02-15 13:44
nah you're the retard if you think a school shooting would be impossible if teachers had guns.
2018-02-15 15:53
#105
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United States AryanZa 
FUN FACT : Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in the US to save lives, FUN FACT : Only around 13000 people die each year from guns! everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-th.. gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
2018-02-15 01:35
#6
United States koth 
I would bet it was an illegal gun thst was used.
2018-02-15 00:36
ar-15. Completely legal with gun licence.
2018-02-15 00:38
how do you know the person who used it bought it legally?
2018-02-15 00:59
Because Retardica's policies allow that
2018-02-15 01:32
+1
2018-02-15 03:02
it was, the kid who did it was already on the police's watch list because he was violent and watched youtube vids on how to make a bomb, he was also not allowed to have a backpack in school because he was violent, the gun was illegal and it was in a gun free zone, no law would have stopped it other than banning 100% of guns in the US
2018-02-15 00:40
#22
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United States pSilent 
Not that banning them all would have helped either. Too much organized crime willing to sell guns illegally. If he wanted a gun he would have gotten it.
2018-02-15 00:43
exactly, unfortunate but no laws would have stopped this
2018-02-15 00:55
#167
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United States Sheenaynay 
Its impossible to say what would have happened *if* ____(anything)____. I also think its weird to use the logic of "illegal activity will continue so we shouldn't try to do anything with laws." We create laws to try to prevent illegal activity - it would be giving up to not even try.
2018-02-15 02:31
#27
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China NA_LUL 
how do you completely ban guns? make everyone hand them in? people can just get them illegally
2018-02-15 00:46
you dont, not without people fighting back
2018-02-15 00:55
#120
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United States Sheenaynay 
Australia did it successfully. Gun buyback program. Ban guns and have the government offer to buy them from you. You can either get your money back for the gun or get arrested for illegally owning one.
2018-02-15 01:52
#145
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United States pSilent 
Won’t work in the U.S. You’d start a civil war and increase organized crime in one fell swoop.
2018-02-15 02:15
#155
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United States Sheenaynay 
True it wouldn't work 1:1 in the US, but offering such a program might be a start to show that the country is open to possible solutions (as opposed to now just thoughts and prayers, with no significant laws getting passed. also we gotta start small then work our way up to bigger solutions.). Then cleaning Congress of dirty money would help, and we could then truly consider what would be the best options for the nation.
2018-02-15 02:19
#159
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United States pSilent 
Attacking the supply of guns without attacking the demand for them is a historically terrible idea regarding anything (Prohibition, drugs). We have to decrease the demand for guns first or we’ll probably just make things worse. Basically we have to fix the South and the Midwest. We’ve ignored them for far too long.
2018-02-15 02:22
#165
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United States Sheenaynay 
I hadn't considered the supply and demand part of the equation, thats interesting. Thats fair, and I have no clue how anyone would go about doing that tbh. Probably something with glorifying it in media, but gun-fetishization is embedded pretty deep in the South/Midwest. Also, I meant just open a program to sell back guns without making it illegal to own guns. If a gun owner sells their guns back to the government, then their neighbors may do the same, or may realize that they don't need the guns etc. It would not get rid of the majority of guns in America, but it would start the conversation on a political scale as well as on a personal scale.
2018-02-15 02:28
#168
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United States pSilent 
It’d require a lot of Federal aid, which paradoxically these parts of the country are reluctant to accept on any level. I don’t see it effecting rural and urban areas much, where in rural areas its cultural and in urban areas it’s a necessity due to organized crime. These are the areas that are the most important to tackle. At the end of the day this is mostly a wealth inequality issue. Fixing the U.S’s gun issues require us to fix a lot of other issues as well, such as police corruption, organized crime in poor areas, state wealth disparity, population disparity, drug policy and much more. Basically we are pretty fucked unless we can get some actual competent unbiased politicians in office. Better make a wish!
2018-02-15 02:33
#189
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United States Sheenaynay 
Have the government hire a company to do it - it would create American jobs and burn a ton of fuel in destroying the bought back weapons (2 things those parts of the country also love!). Maybe emulate a monster truck show where you destroy guns with even bigger guns, then sell tickets to go and watch it. Seriously though, I generally agree with your post, and I think cleaning congress and govt's pockets is an absolute first on the agenda for our next president when they mop out our current one's absolute fuckery of political assignments.
2018-02-15 02:42
#196
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United States pSilent 
Now this one is a good idea. FDR’s policies generally work for fixing the South and Midwest. Have government sponsored projects to rebuild roads, repair buildings and pay people for this higher than minimum wage. People move to these areas for work, which repopulates them, and the new income and restored cities suddenly become the interest of businesses and entrepreneurs, and suddenly your making bank! All this does though is make me annoyed at partisanship and lobbying that will prevent this from happening.
2018-02-15 02:45
#202
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United States Sheenaynay 
+1. People forget that government money is put to good use when it serves the public by helping build/fix the communes. It is universally good to improve communal assets, but people think its a waste of budget and time. FeelsBadMan
2018-02-15 02:48
#158
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United States Sheenaynay 
Also I think the amount of people willing to actually go through a civil war over the right to bear arms would be much smaller than whats needed to actually win a war, and probably is an insignificant percent of the nation. I'm sure many people are against giving up their right, but wouldn't actually go to war for it (this is the American mentality in a nutshell - bitch and moan but don't actually go to action for our stances).
2018-02-15 02:22
#232
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Australia c0meatm3_Bro 
thats what they did say about australia too but we never had a civil war. you can still own guns here but you just need a licence. also all Austomatic and most semi automatic weapons are illegal and there are max magazine sizes gun shops can sell. sure you probably could buy them from shady people/organized crime groups but they are historically more expensive especially when illegal making them harder to get. you cant actually say having gun laws wouldnt change anything because i know for a fact that here in Australia it would be so hard to get your hands on an AR-15 that it wouldn't even be worth it. if full auto and semi auto guns where illegal then whats he going to do? take a bolt action rifle to school and try to mass shoot with that? sure it could happen but its going to be harder to pull off. especially when you have to load a new round into a chamber every shot manually and reload after every like 5 shots. the argument of laws would change nothing is false, and sure you cant stop every mass shooting but surely saving some lives is better then saving none?
2018-02-15 03:28
#233
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United States pSilent 
I’ll put a comment I made previously here. Supply and demand. There is a large demand for guns in the U.S. So, what happens when you eliminate the supply and not the demand? Something will always fill the void. The War on Drugs is a great example of why attacking the supply of a resource and not the demand is a poor idea. Now, should you ban guns, who will fill the demand for guns in the U.S? Well, organized crime of course. The police in areas with high gun demand are already payed off by these organizations (There’s a lot of evidence about this if you want to read about it) so why wouldn’t they just jump with joy at the opportunity? So now that all of the demand for guns is being fulfilled by organized crime, what happens to organized crime? Organizations grow stronger and spread their influence. I’m not talking out of my ass here. I’ve got half a century of evidence backing me, and yes, drugs and guns are very similar in the way they need to be handled. You need to decrease the demand for guns. Now how do you do this? 1. Weed out corruption in the police and create a more effective police force. 2. Don’t ban guns right away. Strictly regulate them and require mandatory education on their use. 3. Eliminate organized crime. 4. Help poor areas and decrease the wealth disparity between states. To make this clear I’m typing it in all caps. BEFORE YOU GET RID OF GUNS, YOU MUST SYSTEMATICALLY ELIMINATE THE DEMAND FOR THEM AND THE SYSTEMS IN PLACE THAT CREATE THAT DEMAND OR YOU MAKE THINGS WORSE. A little bit aggressive probably because of the nature of that conversation, but it should work here. Might not though.
2018-02-15 03:30
The kid was already a graduate according to what the woman on NBC said
2018-02-15 01:33
he was expelled for violent behavior
2018-02-15 02:58
#246
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United States wes33 
Yes, completely banning something stops people from getting it. Look how well that worked with drugs.
2018-02-15 03:57
exactly
2018-02-15 04:00
#7
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
how old was the shooter? anyone knows
2018-02-15 00:36
18 i think
2018-02-15 00:38
19
2018-02-15 03:03
#16
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United States NoriZ 
19, which is 1 more than the number of school shootings in the US in 2018. CRAZY.
2018-02-15 00:40
Wait, there's been 18 already? It's fucking February LOL.
2018-02-15 00:50
NA gun control
2018-02-15 01:19
#134
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
no gun problem btw Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-02-15 02:09
inspired by the NA major win to get good with rifles it seems
2018-02-15 02:23
jesus christ you're onto something
2018-02-15 02:48
inb4 american prison CS team
2018-02-15 02:49
That 18 includes all incidents with on school campuses, including "On January 9, a man shot a pellet gun at a group of children on a school bus, which shattered a window." and "A 31-year-old man shot and killed himself in the school parking lot after hours of negotiation with police. The man called authorities, said he was suicidal and had a handgun." I am not trying to downplay what happened so far this year, but saying there have been 18 school shootings already is bullshit. Source: everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/?..
2018-02-15 01:12
#127
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Europe Immortred 
wtf srs?
2018-02-15 01:57
18 or 19, formerly attended that school
2018-02-15 01:42
#8
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Algeria MagnumDz 
no they will say terror attack by a "black"or "muslim"
2018-02-15 00:37
#15
Australia anxy 
Why must you always play the fucking victim card, honestly
2018-02-15 00:39
#21
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Algeria MagnumDz 
telling the truth ..They accuse black people/muslims always oh wait maybe mexicans this time
2018-02-15 00:42
#23
Australia anxy 
He was Hispanic it was a largely Hispanic community, it's in Florida after all, no idea why you playing the victim card
2018-02-15 00:43
LMFAO, please stop spreading misinformation and sounding like one of those whiny "oppressed" white people. I was watching NBC as they arrested him and he was a white male. Fuck off please
2018-02-15 01:35
His name is Nikolas Cruz you fucking retard
2018-02-15 01:55
#136
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
School Shooters are usually white anyways
2018-02-15 02:10
Most murders are committed by blacks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_.. So now what do we do?
2018-02-15 02:11
#141
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
I'm talking about school shooting. I think you misread what I said.
2018-02-15 02:12
#144
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
"Most homicides were intraracial" Gangs. Nothing more to add.
2018-02-15 02:14
Blacks create and join gangs, whites rarely do, just adding to my point
2018-02-15 02:16
#149
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
You don't get my points people killing themselves in gangs is "normal" i'd say. Going in a school shooting innocent people is something else.
2018-02-15 02:17
>gang violence is normal expected from french cuck, does your wife enjoy her bull?
2018-02-15 02:45
#199
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
Still didn't get my point, is everyone eating kangoroo mentally slow ? People who are in gangs chose this life. Not saying that it's good.
2018-02-15 02:47
>people killing themselves in gangs is "normal"
2018-02-15 02:49
#210
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
" "normal" ". quote Whatever keep wanting to understand what you want to understand and defending white school shooters
2018-02-15 02:51
What keep defending black and arab rapists
2018-02-15 02:59
#219
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
I'm not defending anyone though ? And you bringing this up just makes you look live an obvious racist, but I don't think you care, you're proud of it. School shooters are the best right ?
2018-02-15 03:00
why do you claim i defend school shooters?
2018-02-15 03:35
#240
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
I'm making assumptions just like you :D Have a very good night. -VeryNightGuy
2018-02-15 03:36
#150
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
I can tell you're racist, so whatever lmao
2018-02-15 02:17
He is. And he doesn't know what he's talking about at all.
2018-02-15 02:36
And he's white. Are you braindead enough to believe all people named Cruz are not white? Fucking retard. Get a life, racist.
2018-02-15 02:41
2018-02-15 02:44
2018-02-15 02:44
Well my apologies, NBC said he was white when he hadn't been detained yet.
2018-02-15 03:03
>trusting nbc
2018-02-15 03:34
Lmfao are you a fox news viewer or something?
2018-02-15 22:26
He isn't white at all moron, get your eyes checked.
2018-02-15 02:42
#24
swag | 
United States rantu 
lul im white and I only have black friends but it doesn't matter because all white males are racist apparently
2018-02-15 00:43
#28
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China NA_LUL 
u only have black friends cus u wanna be a wigger
2018-02-15 00:46
#87
swag | 
United States rantu 
I live in whitest place in the United States. They are the only black kids at the school and i'm friends with them bc they like CS and hockey soooooo no i dont wanna be a wigger
2018-02-15 01:15
#103
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China NA_LUL 
black people like CS and hockey?
2018-02-15 01:34
People who like CS play CS, what does that have to do with race?
2018-02-15 01:36
5k hours met 2 black people, i can see hes surprised by that
2018-02-15 02:46
Maybe because you don't physically see the people you play with? What's your IQ?
2018-02-15 02:47
maybe if you arent a moron you can clearly hear if someone is black when they speak ?
2018-02-15 02:49
No you can't, lmfao, not all black people sound a lot different than everyone else.
2018-02-15 02:50
show me a black person who sounds white
2018-02-15 02:50
Are most people from New Zealand racist? Cause your buddy in this thread is pretty racist as well.
2018-02-15 02:51
Sick diversion, no NZ is much less racist then America. Who is my buddy?
2018-02-15 02:59
anxy
2018-02-15 03:04
hes not even kiwi moron
2018-02-15 03:34
#108
swag | 
United States rantu 
Yes suprisingly
2018-02-15 01:38
No, they will say "now is not the time to talk about gun laws, it's time to pray for the victims and their close ones" and kill the discussion. if it was a muslim terror attack, they'd be calling for stronger immigration laws in a heartbeat.
2018-02-15 01:12
disgusting
2018-02-15 00:41
#29
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Algeria MagnumDz 
+1
2018-02-15 00:46
you are disgusting
2018-02-15 00:48
#33
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Algeria MagnumDz 
the truth is disgusting you cant handle it .. rip victims :/
2018-02-15 00:48
#36
fl0m | 
United States C0lumbo 
Terrorism: The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims When a muslim is behind a mass shooting, it's probably because of his/her beliefs, and the pursuit of strengthening political islam, when a 15 year old is behind a mass shooting it's probably because he/she has mental problems, so that's why when muslims who do such things are called terrorists
2018-02-15 00:50
shouldn't even have to get into the legal state of things. where is the school security structure? I went to a high school that always had at least 1 cop in it and had 2 open entrances you shouldn't even be able to shoot a full mag before you're shot by someone else.
2018-02-15 00:38
lmao who wants to live in a country where you need cops in schools, srsly
2018-02-15 00:49
#38
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United States pSilent 
A lot of people apparently.
2018-02-15 00:52
True, but its not because its a safe country. Been to your country five times, its a really cool and amazing country but has its flaws like every country.
2018-02-15 00:59
#57
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United States pSilent 
I don’t think the U.S is generally unsafe. It has its bad areas but a lot of that is due to our 18th and 19th century history. The coasts are pretty good in terms of security, for the most part. It’s really only the South and Midwest areas.
2018-02-15 01:01
True, its just like Sweden, I live in a suburb in Stockholm and its totally fine here but you hear about gang shootings in some other suburbs in Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö all the time it seems like. Its generally really safe but some areas you don't really wanna visit.
2018-02-15 01:11
lmao who wants to live in a country where you need cops at all, srsly
2018-02-15 00:52
PepeHands we should just end it FeelsBadMan :gun:
2018-02-15 00:53
yeah upholding the law is a retarded idea, especially in schools.
2018-02-15 00:54
when did I say that? its just ridiculous that its needed tbh. don't think it has to do with gun laws at this point. maybe if gun laws would've been made stricter in the 90's it would've changed. It feels like its a trend idiots do now :/
2018-02-15 00:57
why is it ridiculous? in a place where there is 1500+ people there is bound to be something that happens that requires a police officer to keep things in check. There are many things that happen in high schools other than school shootings so it would be beneficial (and is).
2018-02-15 01:03
Go to school in any other country and you'd not need it. That's why I find it ridiculous. Its sad that its needed, just sad.
2018-02-15 01:08
lol in "any other" is definitely bullshit. You're telling me no other country has drug trafficking, fights, or any illegal shit happening on campus?
2018-02-15 01:13
Obviously other countries have that, but having a police stationed at the school at all times for drug trafficking, fights and other illegal shit? :DDD you need a cops at schools because of people shooting you up, we don't.
2018-02-15 01:15
I'm trying to say there are many other benefits of a police offer being stationed at a school other than for a school shooting and I really don't see a problem with that. The fact that we have a gun market alone means that we should have enough taxes from it to fund this system. Congrats on having a much safer society than we do. I'm not going to deny that. but you also have alot less shittier people that pour in to your country than mine does (and we are starting to change that).
2018-02-15 01:23
I get that there's benefits obviously, just because I find it ridiculous that its needed doesn't mean I don't believe it is needed in some cases. I feel like instead of solving the problem by adding more guns to schools (cops) it should be able to be solved some other way. I'm not going to advocate for stricter gun laws because I don't believe that to be the problem with school shootings.
2018-02-15 01:32
well you could literally have a security system and bullet proof doors like my high school had. You couldn't get into the school without someone checking you on camera because the doors were locked. This guy in Florida walked in with an AR-15 AND EVEN GOT OUT?!?!?! That shit couldn't even happen at my school. You would get locked out then 3 cops would be on your ass before you turned around.
2018-02-15 01:35
PepeHands HITLER PepeHands HITLER PepeHands HITLER
2018-02-15 01:43
DatSheffy Clap
2018-02-15 01:45
forsenSheffy /
2018-02-15 01:45
forsenRedSonic do you know da wae BWAH BWAH
2018-02-15 01:47
#13
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Sweden fakelelele 
So are you saying that school shootings are not possible if guns are not legal?
2018-02-15 00:39
only in florida this happens, it is prohibited to use weapons inside the school.
2018-02-15 00:40
living in the united States is still safer than living in half the european countries
2018-02-15 00:39
Untrue. homicide rate in US with fire arm is like 26x higher than Europe
2018-02-15 00:58
Surprisingly, there's more ways to die than with a firearm. Like in Sweden. ANELE Clap
2018-02-15 01:44
Yeah 3 terrorist attack deaths in 50 years, remember those two towers you had?
2018-02-15 01:46
#138
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
+1 lol Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-02-15 02:10
safearound.com/danger-rankings/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index Almost all european countries rank higher than USA.
2018-02-15 01:09
xd
2018-02-15 01:10
ofc shitty neighborhoods in like chiraq, detroit etc skew the ratings a lot but still xd
2018-02-15 01:13
I live in Massachusetts
2018-02-15 01:15
probably safer than most of europe
2018-02-15 01:17
#98
Xyp9x | 
Denmark KrynexCS 
expected fake facts from Brazilian_Kebab_Jew
2018-02-15 01:31
#20
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United States pSilent 
They should be, but not in the way they are now. Outlawing guns universally will either make organized crime spiral out of control or change practically nothing, not to mention the backlash from most of the Southern parts of the U.S that still hold animosity towards the Federal government. If we are unlucky it could spark a second civil war. What you do need to do is force people to learn how to use them, store them, and react to dangerous situations with them. This should like an actual education, so 2 years at least. That lessens irresponsible gun owners and should cut down on crimes that are committed with legally owned guns. You also havr to tackle organized crime, which would require an overhaul of U.S drug policity and foreign affairs regarding Latin America, which is a whole can of worms I can’t open on mobile.
2018-02-15 00:41
#171
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Europe Immortred 
what u need to do is gtfo a country where u need to use guns to be able to live through your daily life. there are a lot other countries in which you can also have 1st world privileges but are much safer and civilized than usa. usa is a barbar country where whoever has the gun has the bigger dick.
2018-02-15 02:35
#185
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United States pSilent 
If you generalize the U.S you’re already objectively wrong. The U.S has several very poor and very rich areas. The Northern states and the coasts are very wealthy and don’t suffer from many gun issues. The South and Midwest are poor and rural and are responsible for the majority of gun issues. The U.S is more like a collection of countries than one single nation. It would be inaccurate to think of it as otherwise.
2018-02-15 02:41
I won't really go into the reasons, but suffice to say I disagree with your assertions but I respect your opinions regardless. I do agree that we need to look at the Latin American drug trade though, since it's practically domestic terrorism at this point.
2018-02-15 04:43
#269
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United States pSilent 
I’m surprised drug talk has trailed off recently. Guns and drugs are two issues that need to be handled similarly. Demand must go down before we can tackle the supply issue. Lobbying makes any real change impossible either way.
2018-02-15 04:46
To me it's almost not even about the drugs at this point, but the violence that pours in over the border. It's like it just gets looked at with a blind eye, meanwhile we are still fighting a war over a terrorist attack that happened nearly 20 years ago. We have actual violence on our own soil by our own neighbors, and we're more worried about a conflict on the other side of the world. It baffles me. I do agree that demand for guns needs to go down, but unfortunately the culture is ingrained in many areas. I've lived in the deep south so I know exactly how ridiculous some of these people are about their gun ownership.
2018-02-15 04:48
Its sad. People are cruel. This world is doomed. RIP those poor souls and lots of prayers to the family members.
2018-02-15 00:45
#40
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United States pSilent 
Well that seems like an exaggeration. Cyber Warfare has pretty much guaranteed the neutralization of MAD so as long as we fix the environment we good until we hit a Great Filter or some such.
2018-02-15 00:53
I'm talking about the people, us, humans! We are evil. We can't get along, we only cause death and destruction. We have all the power, all the knowlegde in the world but we still use it with greed and of evil intentions.
2018-02-15 00:55
You're forgetting the 999,999 people out of the million that is not evil. Sure there's probably a lot more evil people than 1 in a million but theres a lot more good people than evil people.
2018-02-15 01:01
You're right, but the leaders of the free people are evil. They control us, they use us and they turn us against eachother.
2018-02-15 01:03
#65
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United States pSilent 
“Evil” is a subjective term. There are no absolute definitions of “good” and “evil”. All we know is that so far, humans are the most developed and intelligent creatures in the known history of the Universe. Seems like a pretty neat accomplishment to me. As long as humanity continues at our current rate, I’ll be proud.
2018-02-15 01:04
#31
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Turkmenistan HLTV_Reporter 
hltv.org/forums/threads/1696943/school-s.. Can you guys keep to 1 thread ffs
2018-02-15 00:47
you do know heroin and lsd is 100% illegal but used all the time. you cant control everything in america
2018-02-15 01:00
Okay #1 thoughts go out to the families and friends involved in the shootings, dumb guy American BS, making guns legal or illegal isn't going to prevent psychopaths from shooting up schools.
2018-02-15 01:01
Why is School Shooting such a turn-on for those psychos?
2018-02-15 01:03
#68
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United States pSilent 
It gives them attention. They are all over the news for a period of time and a lot of people talk about them. You can also take revenge on people who mistreat you this way.
2018-02-15 01:06
The only thing related to school here in Sweden, that I know, was a guy who killed a teacher and two students with a fucking sword. That shit was crazy.
2018-02-15 01:09
#78
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United States pSilent 
A sword? Honestly, that’s impressive. Fucked up, but impressive.
2018-02-15 01:12
He also had a star-wars mask, maybe Darth Vader if I remember correctly. Dressed like a lord sith or some shit. Students even took selfies with him because they thought its was some sort of masquerade costume. Really messed up.
2018-02-15 01:14
#60
fl0m | 
United States C0lumbo 
2018-02-15 01:02
Omg, my feelings again for those children. But I agree with people carrying weapons. For me it's a kind of a politic scam to take off the people's guns in order to control them, so they(politician) try to bring some strong reason to execute it. The guns are one of few things to defend ourselves, we can't trust in our cops anymore. Resist NA people, stay with the fire guns.
2018-02-15 01:03
#66
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North America Phyxda 
Bruh cops only shoot people cuz they're afraid of getting shot
2018-02-15 01:04
#71
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United States pSilent 
Or because they are corrupt and genuinely enjoy killing people. This is the case in a lot of poor areas, and it’s why the general advice when visiting poor neighborhoods is to stay away from the police.
2018-02-15 01:07
This is what I think. I don't know, but it seems to be a scam against the nation. Man, every year is the same thing with usa. It's too simetric, I mean, for me it's more than clear that is manipulated.
2018-02-15 01:24
#95
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United States pSilent 
I doubt it goes that deep. The U.S would gain a lot from organized crime and weapons providers if they were anti-gun control. They have no motive to get rid of guns.
2018-02-15 01:27
Hmm..., you have a good point to think.
2018-02-15 01:30
Or because they badly trained, or racist, in 90% of cases
2018-02-15 01:47
#67
f0rest | 
Spain s1lentL 
There should be only certain people allowed to own a gun, those who only got a license which should be difficult to obtain.
2018-02-15 01:05
#77
fl0m | 
United States C0lumbo 
I'm pretty sure the guy behind the shooting didn't have a license
2018-02-15 01:12
#84
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Brazil hltvsuckers2 
Please continue, there is still 323 millions americans remaing.
2018-02-15 01:14
#88
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Netherlands TiltedAF 
Reported
2018-02-15 01:16
its continuing in Brazil thats for fucking sure
2018-02-15 01:29
#92
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United States 0123Rhm 
Gun control won’t work now. Tomorrow. Or ever. Bad People Will Do Bad Things
2018-02-15 01:20
People are so retard gun control does nothing just look at the fucking UK, highest stabbing homicide in Europe and still one of the highest gun homicide rates in Europe in a place where there is gun laws and gun control, if a criminal wants a gun he will get one no law is going to stop that from happening. The fact that a lot of these shootings are done with firearms that are either illegal or illegally obtained also doesn't help anyones argument to do more gun control, and the fact that many of the people doing the shootings are on psychotropic medications.
2018-02-15 01:43
Ofc gun control works lmao. If UK would have softer gun control it would be more murders with guns, that's the whole point lmao. And americans doesn't even want backgroundchecks when applying for a gun. Ofc a psycho can get a gun legally when no backgroundchecks are done
2018-02-15 01:56
#126
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United States Sheenaynay 
One of the highest in Europe is still massively lower than what the U.S goes through. And stabbing attacks don't have the potential for mass murder if police have guns to stop it; however, a shooting could turn into a mass shooting if any number of variables go wrong.
2018-02-15 01:56
Different situation since your country is basically a violence based culture always has been and always will be. The problem is the gun free zones and those medications I mentioned, things that are consistent with school shootings, gun free zones almost always and shooter on psychotropic medications almost always.
2018-02-15 02:02
#148
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United States Sheenaynay 
To be honest I dont know much about the latter half, I just wanted to point out what I knew to be inconsistencies. I don't know about the specific psychotropic medications amongst shooters, but psychotropic medications in general are being highly prescribed now due to general increases in depression and other cognitive diseases (possibly overprescribed/misdiagnosed, but still being prescribed nonetheless). Are the psychotropic medications linked to shootings or is this just a hypothesis/pattern you see? It could just that more people overall are taking psychotropic medications. I'm not sure, just wondering if you know.
2018-02-15 02:16
#119
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
Guns dont kill people kill. Murican goverment just want to get weapons off from normal people ofc criminals will still get guns but normal people have nothing if they need to defend themselves. Probably another cia paid false flag attack.
2018-02-15 01:48
#121
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United States Sheenaynay 
bad b8 nt.
2018-02-15 01:53
#125
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Luxembourg Hargreaves 
he was just a typical c9 fan
2018-02-15 01:56
if the guy is crazy enough to actually shoot a place, he will get an illegal gun easy XD
2018-02-15 01:57
#139
cry | 
Japan camzh 
a criminal breaking the law! shocking!
2018-02-15 02:18
+1
2018-02-15 04:06
#182
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Europe Immortred 
nope, if guns are not the culture in your country? how are you going to find one? you're asking your neighbors and nobody knows how to answer you, unlike in usa. no guns = no mass killings its simple but usa already has too many guns its impossible to help, just like brazil. both are shitholes.
2018-02-15 02:40
wtf you talking about a guy who shoot a school is a full psycho what in the fuck the gun law has to do with it LUL, criminals dont follow the laws dude ._. wake up LOL
2018-02-15 04:06
#253
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Europe Immortred 
in where i come from, i don't know where to find guns. i doubt it would be the same in usa. also criminals implies someone who has connections with fellow criminals but this florida shooter just seems like a normal dude/teenager.
2018-02-15 04:15
how old are you and where do you live?
2018-02-15 04:15
#261
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Europe Immortred 
17 in malaysia.
2018-02-15 04:18
dude buying a gun is the same as buying drugs... if you dont know anyone of the culture you will feel lost... if you know how things work, or know some people and ask around, you always find drugs to buy... guns are the same -.- you talk around, talk with the guy, and change your money for the gun, and thats it... nobody knows about it, and you are free to do wahtever you want with the gun. specially those psychos -.- the difference is, if one of those psychos start shooting, and a civilian has a gun, the good guy can at least try to stop the psycho... as you can see those psychos always attack places where people cant defend themselfs =)
2018-02-15 04:25
#267
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Europe Immortred 
average criminals in usa have guns but the average criminals in here don't. it is harder to get guns here and the gun crime rate is nearly non-existant. the fact that you need more guns to be able to defend yourselves like u suggested is a fucked up situation of a country.
2018-02-15 04:43
for example, the guy who defend gun laws in SA, candidact for presdident now in 2018, I was cheking some infos he was giving to papers... and actually, the coutry that has more guns in SA (uruguay or something, forgot exacly who it was) had the least deaths by gun in SA... while BR dont allow guns, and is one of the most violent countrys
2018-02-15 04:48
#274
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Europe Immortred 
BR has favelas though, probably source of the violence and i heard even the cops are scared to go there lol
2018-02-15 05:19
yeah, but br is huuuuuuuuge the world we live (normal economy ppl) is 100% different than a violent favela lol, people generalize too much but for example, my family, no one knows where to get a illegal gun, I dont know... but I know where to start, I know that if I ask to the right people maybe I could get one, you know? lets say I'm a psycho... and I want to shoot something, here in BR, a school would be easy too, cuz I know theres probably no one armed there, and people are not expeting, so the time to call the cops etc I could make a lot of victims, thats the point... if guns were legal, I dont know, someone could shoot the shooter before the actual cops get into the place or something like that, this could be aplied for many things... if the criminal knows you dont have a gun, he has no fear is like rushing A mirage against ecos, when you have 4 ak's + 1 ump LUL
2018-02-15 05:27
#276
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Europe Immortred 
if you legalize guns, the mass shootings may decrease, or maybe not, but there will be more killings by civilians. you're trying to solve a problem by creating another one.
2018-02-15 05:39
yeah, this is what I was thinking, but that shit that candidact said blow my mind... that nations where there are free gun laws, the murder victims by guns are lower than other countrys, and he said this was a communist thing, unarm the population cuz people without guns are easier to control... but I totally see your point.. like people watching football game drinking a beer with a gun OMEGALUL, this sounds retarded to a place like br xd "wtf u said about my team?" papaw
2018-02-15 05:42
#129
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North America khansab2000 
my country is retarded
2018-02-15 01:58
feel for u
2018-02-15 02:18
17 dead shieet
2018-02-15 02:01
Great Aimer.
2018-02-15 02:39
Guns should still be legal. There you go OP. Resident in the state of Washington just to confirm for you
2018-02-15 02:09
#137
cry | 
Japan camzh 
How? Schools are gun free zones? Its almost as if making guns illegal does nothing? Polack brain go clean toilets
2018-02-15 02:10
Even a nationwide gun-ban would do nothing because there are so many guns on the market & in the households.
2018-02-15 02:39
#183
cry | 
Japan camzh 
go worry about the jihadis and somalians raping your women and blowing themselves up in Europe
2018-02-15 02:40
We have less terror attacks in europe in a year than usa has mass shootings in 3 months
2018-02-15 02:42
#143
fer | 
Italy saMeister 
U don't need to wait an american to do it, I still think guns should be legal in all the countries, guns don't kill people, people kill people...
2018-02-15 02:14
yeah and there are alot of psychos out there, might aswell give them a gun since the gun doesn't kill anyone right?
2018-02-15 02:18
#156
cry | 
Japan camzh 
if someone is that fucked up they want to commit homicide, they will do it with or without a gun
2018-02-15 02:20
not really true the point was that psychos who murder others can easily get a gun so by your logic it's ok if we have more murders as since it isn't anything wrong with the gun itself
2018-02-15 02:24
#164
cry | 
Japan camzh 
no they cant lmfao your delusional, background checks exist, no gun control, background checks, no lesson plans will stop this. The only thing at fault is the person who does something so low and cowardly as open fire on a school.
2018-02-15 02:27
Yeah and how can they get guns easily? By buying the guns. Gun lobbyists in the US is against background checks
2018-02-15 02:37
#179
cry | 
Japan camzh 
just seen your name yea im not even gonna go into this with you lol, you even shared a video of john fucking oliver on hltv, 100% braindead confirmed
2018-02-15 02:39
#234
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Europe Immortred 
pls think critically and stop with that argument. with gun it's easier to mass kill. with knife for example, after u stab someone others will run away, not to mention it's easier to fight back than with guns. also the blood mess are unappealing unless you're a total psycho like ted bundy, which most shooters aren't. they're just normal ppl who get pushed to the limits and snap. running over people with cars are too sadistic even for the average school shooter so they won't do it. also u can't see the conditions of ur targets unless you get out of car to see their faces lol. guns = much easier, cleaner, more convenient, instant deletion+satisfaction, not to mention u get to roleplay as gangsters like in movies/video games. also the fact these school shootings are very much glorified in the usa, it contributes to why those ppl choose to use guns instead of other methods for their 'judgement day'. this will create an endless cycle of kids who dream to do the same thing as the ones they watch in the news because it's already in the culture of usa, unless their government do something about it.
2018-02-15 03:31
#236
cry | 
Japan camzh 
what should the government do then? your just writing nonsense and not proposing anything
2018-02-15 03:33
#241
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Europe Immortred 
the country is so big and every other person has guns so it's impossible to control. they should just nuke usa and start from scratch, without guns ofc.
2018-02-15 03:43
#243
cry | 
Japan camzh 
ok thanks! now I know not to take anything you say seriously!
2018-02-15 03:52
#166
fer | 
Italy saMeister 
Dude, we both know that guns don't kill people, they don't even have life to do this! If u read the news, u will see that the guy that killed all that people was kicked out of the school for disciplinary reasons some years ago, and, he probably came back to revenge. So, u can't prohibit guns just because one guy got in a came in a school and kill a lot of people, this is not a gun problem, but a social one. Some times an retarded guy take a car and runs over someone or a group of people, and u don't see anyone wanting to prohibit cars :\
2018-02-15 02:31
Yeah but we still need to take a drivers licence. If someone isn't fit to drive they doesn't get a drivers licence. It should be the same with guns, if someone isn't fit to use a gun they shouldn't have a gun.
2018-02-15 02:35
#176
fer | 
Italy saMeister 
Yeah, I am for the guns, but I still think that, for u to have one, u must pass by a kind of test or something like this, like a guns license, ur right... Being different than Texas that u just have to buy one and that's it
2018-02-15 02:38
Yeah that's the point with gun control. People can still own guns if they are fit to use them
2018-02-15 02:39
#187
fer | 
Italy saMeister 
But...... U have to take care of the bureaucracy. In a lot of countries, u have to deal with too much bureaucracy, spend a doble of money just with taxes, wait months just to get one gun ;-;
2018-02-15 02:42
Yes, so people who really need a gun will do this. Why should a gun be cheap and doesn't include bureaucracy? So you can buy it for the lulz? If you really need a gun you will do all this, otherwise you don't really need it.
2018-02-15 02:45
TBH its too late for america, at least in our lifetime. Even if they straight up ban guns now, there are soooooo many guns on the market, it wouldnt change a damn thing.
2018-02-15 02:38
#193
cry | 
Japan camzh 
you need a fucking drivers licence to buy a gun you moron, or a state comparable id, which is harder to get than a drivers licence lol...
2018-02-15 02:45
It should be stricter. Only because it's harder to get than a drivers licence doesn't mean it's hard enough. A drivers licence is fucking easy to get mate
2018-02-15 02:48
#211
cry | 
Japan camzh 
i know its easy to get, that's the fucking point, you don't need a criminal background check to get a drivers licence, you can get one if your a felon, a domestic abuser, and have a mental illness, you can still get a drivers licence, so whats stopping one of these people from getting a drivers licence and a car then committing mass murder? you have never bought a gun so you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, go read up more lies
2018-02-15 02:53
A gun is associated with harming other people while a car is associated with getting to a place in a shorter period of time. Before a terrorrist used a truck to kill people no one really saw that as a weapon, but after that it's changed.
2018-02-15 02:54
#220
cry | 
Japan camzh 
No, a gun is associated with defending yourself or in the case of the 2nd amendment defending yourself from government tyranny. car fatalities are more rampant than gun fatalities. And sick argument, if I have a gun on my hip, who is it of danger to? The minute you step behind the wheel you are putting yourself at risk, or other people at risk no matter how good you are at driving
2018-02-15 03:01
Then everyone should be able to buy automated rifles, explosives etc etc. Especially kids since they are the one that suffering from school shootings. If every kid was carrying an automated rifle no school shooting would happened since they could defend themself right? They aren't putting anyone else at danger so why not let them have it?
2018-02-15 11:30
#287
cry | 
Japan camzh 
i don't know if you can read but that clearly isn't what I said
2018-02-15 16:02
Imagine if Poland still had their guns in the 1940s :>
2018-02-15 02:15
#152
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Canada LongBaguette 
god bless america
2018-02-15 02:18
Well, nice god, letting those kids die .. I guess it was their fate to die like this .. LMAO religion is just utterly stupid.
2018-02-15 02:37
#157
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
REST IN PEACE.
2018-02-15 02:20
Everyone blames the guns but seems to ignore the fact that every one of these mass shootings had the kid on meds or was on meds then got off meds. The first documented random shooting in America was in 1949. Guess what. Guy was also on an earlier form of prescription meds. Picked up his gun, walked out of his house and shot anyone he saw. They start putting kids on drugs around 4 years old these days while their mind is still forming and after all those years they are ready to snap. Is it random or not? Legal prescription drugs , lots of mass shootings, no prescription drugs and no random mass shootings. We have had written history from day one in America and can't find anyone shooting up a school back in the old days.
2018-02-15 02:24
I dont see any other country which has so many mass shootings. So you wanna tell me, that they dont have mental ill guys? Guns enable easy massmurders, simple as that.
2018-02-15 02:36
#208
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United States Sheenaynay 
+1. The psychotropic drug theory is an interesting theory, but I don't think that it has actual legs. Prescriptions for mental illnesses have increased over time as research in the field has found and diagnosed more mental illnesses. Cognitive psychology is a relatively recent field, as are studies of adolescent development and emerging adulthood. We learn more every year, but the science is helping - not hurting by *causing* mass shootings (which is OP's implication). We must rely on the scientific method, not random conjectures of causation.
2018-02-15 02:50
It's a real tragedy. But I don't think outright banning guns is the solution. Drugs like heroin, lsd, cocaine, are all illegal but are used everyday. What need to be done is CONTROL. We need more vigorous background checks and limits on rifle sales. Personally fine with pistols for personal defense but I draw the line at someone wanting to own a rifle that can use ammo that penetrates body armor (ie that of police). At the end of the day people will be people and some people are monsters. My heart goes out to all the victims
2018-02-15 02:26
#212
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North America Phyxda 
Idk drugs are very addictive and people who use them can't control themselves so there's a high demand for them. I have no idea how badly people need guns or what risks they'll take to get them. But I don't think most normal people would risk buying illegal firearms cause that sounds pretty sketch,
2018-02-15 02:54
-assault rifles +background checks +drinking age of 18 top5 country of all time
2018-02-15 02:42
#214
cry | 
Japan camzh 
hand guns are responsible for 80% of gun related homicides, and background checks exist, so I don't get the point your trying to make here?
2018-02-15 02:56
we're talking mass shootings. you clearly are not American and don't understand how NOT in-depth background checks are. it doesn't take long at all to get a gun - you can literally walk in to most stores and just buy one without getting your background verified or anything
2018-02-15 03:19
#231
cry | 
Japan camzh 
you literally cant lol, whats the difference between a pistol and an assault rifle? they're both semi automatic? a pistol can be concealed and be easily taken into a gun free zone, even more easier than to do with an assault rifle?
2018-02-15 03:22
#227
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United States Funkyyyyy 
just saw the videos, scary stuff
2018-02-15 03:05
Which videos exactly? Anything that hasnt been shared 4543345834 times?
2018-02-15 04:18
#228
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Uruguay Zorrondo 
expected from burger USA
2018-02-15 03:07
#235
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United States BaguetteArmy 
2nd amendment probably kills more people than it protects them.
2018-02-15 03:32
#242
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Europe Immortred 
it needs to be renewed but muricans don't want to let go off that right cuz it's like cutting ur dicks off
2018-02-15 03:46
Honestly we wont see a change in our lifetime, Even if they straight up ban guns in america tomorrow, there are so many guns on the market, in the american households & on the streets. Wouldnt change a thing
2018-02-15 04:16
#263
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Europe Immortred 
i just hope trump will tweet something like "YES GUNS ARE PROBLEMS! WE NEED MORE OF THEM SO WE CAN DEFEND OURSELVES, AGAINST OURSELVES" so the memes continue
2018-02-15 04:23
Alright covfefe.
2018-02-15 04:24
#245
ScreaM | 
United States Voytek 
If literally EVERYONE would have a gun with himself noone would have been killed because terrorist would be scared that someone can counter and kill him easily. So yeah thats the solution. TO ALL OF YOU AMERICANS TAKE YOUR WEAPONS WITH YOURSELF!
2018-02-15 03:57
#249
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Brazil Mentecapto 
Agree 100%. If everyone had an automatic rifle or a concealed firearm with them, the shooter would be dead on sight before he could do anything, or even be too scared to make such an attack
2018-02-15 04:05
#264
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Europe Immortred 
AGREE! USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
2018-02-15 04:24
#252
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Netherlands TiltedAF 
But the real question is, did the shooter break the highscore?
2018-02-15 04:12
17 dead for a single shooter? Either they ran into his bullets like headless chicken or he had good aim.
2018-02-15 04:15
#257
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Netherlands TiltedAF 
Norway much better
2018-02-15 04:17
77 but he had those kids trapped on an island, so easier targets.
2018-02-15 04:17
#273
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Netherlands TiltedAF 
de_lake always ez fragging
2018-02-15 05:03
#258
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Colombia AlejoBuh 
eu spray, one magazine 17 deads
2018-02-15 04:17
Just seven weeks into 2018, there have been eight shootings at US schools that have resulted in injury or death. Typical Fatburgers screaming US is #1 LUL
2018-02-15 04:50
#279
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
its everyday bro with american gun control
2018-02-15 11:35
Again and again. So desperate situation. But what to expect, right? When everyone has at least some kind of pistol in the US.
2018-02-15 11:47
#285
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
should have used a mac10 for that eco money
2018-02-15 15:54
i think its pretty obvious that more guns dont prevent violence, but do the opposite. But with NRA lobbying, the republicans wont allow any measures against guns as long as they have power. which is one reason they shouldnt be in power.
2018-02-15 15:57
#288
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Estonia mySSq 
guns dont kill peeple, burgers and obesity kills braincells + peeple #gun4everyone #RUNGUN #freeguns
2018-02-15 16:09
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