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C9 draws
GeT_RiGhT | 
United States sweaters 
The most unlucky I've ever seen. Of all the 1-0 teams they got FaZe, they could have gotten Navi Gambit G2 Astralis or mousesports. Of all the 1-1 teams they got SK, they could have gotten VP Liquid Astralis Gambit or Tyloo. It's unreal.
2018-02-19 03:30
United States Idoitforlols 
It makes any match victories way better. Beating SK > beating any t5 team
2018-02-19 03:37
how is beating a t50 team a better victory than beating a t5 team na brain
2018-02-19 03:40
United States Idoitforlols 
2018-02-19 03:40
Brazil KingOfNothing 
no scener knows a lot about tier 50, what would you expect from a region which their best team is bug clan xd
2018-02-19 03:51
Finland sakumaybE 
no scener? that is not even english
2018-02-19 04:05
United States gtmaniacmda 
it's an 'Internet' term, I don't know if you have ever used the 'Internet,' but it is a cool and wacky place, you should try it some time
2018-02-20 01:27
United States Toxsick11 
This guy Internets.
2018-02-21 04:17
This Internets guy
2018-02-22 11:51
well somebody is on the edge
2018-02-22 00:19
who talked about BIG ?
2018-02-23 06:48
nice one
2018-02-20 01:55
Russia Sur10n 
2018-02-20 10:12
United States Baitor 
2018-02-21 04:02
Norway m0sifer 
you will never succeed at anything and you're calling a double major winning team tier 50?
2018-02-22 22:07
Weh They'd have to play Top 5 team's eventually if they were going to make a run into semis.
2018-02-19 03:38
+1 Tough road. They were destined to lose to Faze regardless. I suppose if you're going to have to go through SK, now is as good a time as any. Tough matchup, but they have beaten them before and know their play style better than they do Faze's.
2018-02-19 03:39
Andorra fuy 
2018-02-19 03:45
United States Idoitforlols 
Hey that's actually pretty good.
2018-02-19 03:47
2018-02-19 04:04
bahahaha fan of fnatic bahahahahaha
2018-02-20 01:32
Georgia Fatal Fighter 
2018-02-20 10:10
Indonesia slimyp1g 
2018-02-22 02:44
Yeah, they are very unlucky this tournament with the draws tho SK isn't looking good
2018-02-19 03:58
United States d0lph1nn 
Feel like this was their chance to prove themselves as top 1, but they evidently aren't, and that kinda shows even us NA CS fans that they aren't, so even though it's unlucky, it's a test, and we gotta respect Faze for winning
2018-02-19 04:03
United States d0ze 
+1 c9 needs to prove that they re major champs
2018-02-19 04:04
they proved it by winning the major lmao
2018-02-19 04:08
United States ImFat 
If they don't make it to semis this event, the major was 100% luck. I about guarantee it was luck.
2018-02-20 10:25
You don't get lucky when you have to beat every top 5 team to even get to finals. And they beat them all with opponents on singledigit scores lol
2018-02-21 03:52
United States ImFat 
Then almost the next tournament Lose to almost all of them.
2018-02-21 03:53
What? I fail to see what losing to the two best teams in the world means
2018-02-21 03:54
United States ImFat 
if the can't beat the top teams consistently you won the major by luck. They got stomped by both SK and FaZe this event. If they don't get out of groups this event they don't deserve to be called a top 3 team.
2018-02-21 03:58
LOL. The top team in the world not only can't beat SK consistently, but they rarely beat them. So with your logic faze major win would be luck. Some great logic there bud
2018-02-21 04:01
Hhahahaha and who else deserves rank 3 spot now? Delusional hater gahHa
2018-02-21 04:01
Just means they are where they belong, rank 3. As for major win being "luck" no. Any top 5 team winning a major can not be luck unless they get insanely lucky during many rounds or some shit which didn't happen
2018-02-21 04:08
Faze had no tough opponents in a bo3 until the final which of niko and karrigan didn't choke would have been a stomp
2018-02-22 11:47
"almost all of them" so almost all means the only two ranked higher? Hmm
2018-02-21 03:57
United States ImFat 
They beat G2, Astralis, SK and FaZe, let's look into these matches a little bit more. Astralis: first tournament with device since he's gotten back from the hospital/being sick, obviously they're not going to be in good form. G2: Very inconsistent team, play like a top3 team some games others they play like a tier 2 team, not to mention C9 lost to them in groups (16-8) overall okay win SK: they had a stand in which they barely practiced with maybe once (maybe) not only this, they just came out of a bo3 against Fnatic the match went 2-1 for SK so very close. FaZe: I can't say this wasn't a good match it was super fun to watch, overall a good match. But atleast 2/4 teams were not at their best. Then in cs_summit, C9 lost to Liquid who just got a new player, basically two new players counting steel, who came out of a bo3 against Sk, not only this They had a 1-0 advantage. I just decided to put this to emphasize C9 is inconsistent and not a reliable top 3 team.
2018-02-21 04:08
SK lost vs Liquid this proves SK is an inconsistent team rmaofl
2018-02-21 04:12
dont really think people thought they were #1? pretty sure most c9 fans were content with #3 for now but with a chance to improve as they are only what 5 months old and their roster is very young. especially when you compare the age/experience of faze members
2018-02-19 04:09
Place top 4 at all their events since the roster change (except the first one). They win the major, but lose 2 GROUP STAGE matches against the other top 2 teams in the world and then people say "not my major champs". Why don't Faze have to prove they're top 1 by winning a major? Why can those bots choke ever major and still be considered top 1? Why can they lose vs SK every time they play and still be considered top 1? Why do only C9 have to win every fking event they attend and win every fking map vs the other top 2 teams in the world to be considered a top team?
2018-02-21 04:07
United States d0lph1nn 
Not all the time, but at least 2-3 to show that they are consistently better
2018-02-21 19:53
should be easy for the major champions LUL
2018-02-19 04:04
JUGi | 
Belgium Dweepz 
if SK is so damn good. They should be a 2-0 team and not a 1-1. Just Facts btw
2018-02-19 04:08
United States Shadow272 
Fun fact Sk lost to mouz Sk won against c9 Mouz >sk> c9
2018-02-21 04:30
who cares gotta beat the best to be the best
2018-02-19 04:08
Germany lawlig 
They are Major winner.. draws shouldnt matter for them..
2018-02-19 10:17
Honestly the draws probably won't. Just make a jet-lagged team a little more warmed up. Faze got their rage revenge and SK played a nice series but who exactly is going to knock C9 out now? VP? Sounds to me like the major all over. VP was the team that kick-started C9 into curb-stomping the rest of the pro scene one team after another. Who exactly in the 1-2 bracket is a bad match up for C9? Like someone give me a real argument here. I love by the way how G2 gets to cruise through every tournament never playing the best teams. I mean as much as I hate Faze they've had some pretty rough draws as well.
2018-02-20 01:27
United States DivoteLmao 
2018-02-20 01:28
What's funny? Fnatic? Oh.
2018-02-20 01:29
United States DivoteLmao 
i just find it funny when fnatic gets the hardest draws in every tournament but this one and c9 fan complains after 1 tourney xD
2018-02-20 02:01
2018-02-20 02:05
United States DivoteLmao 
0/8 can you read? I said not this event? retard
2018-02-20 02:25
The only tournament they are good at(not that even good) is the major they are shit everywhere else
2018-02-20 02:27
United States DivoteLmao 
what about epl and ecs got semis and only lost to faze? almost be sk in major? what has g2 done but lose to fnatic 2-0 online kidddo
2018-02-20 02:29
Won 3 tournaments in 2017, when was the last time fnatic was relevant. Also congrats fnatic are huge onliners LUL BARELY beating t6275628473847384728573857284728472857828573747274734883844829848385 optic, cant handle a t1 team in a bo3, fnatic only good at BO1 LOL
2018-02-20 02:35
United States DivoteLmao 
major was in 2018? are u triggered and late 2017? g2 only good bo1 too just lucky this event
2018-02-20 02:37
Major was in 2018? Epl and ecs was also in 2017 LUL. G2 maybe lucky but man FNATIC IS JUST UTTER SHIT LOL at g2 can win bo3s against COMPETENT TEAMS LUL TYLUL RENELUL
2018-02-20 02:39
United States DivoteLmao 
speak English mr. Muhammad, youre just salty g2 will lose in quarters and be overrated as always my dude most overrated team in csgo
2018-02-20 02:41
seem a little triggered with all that typing Btw g2 can actually beat relevant teams in bo3
2018-02-20 02:47
United States DivoteLmao 
seem a little triggered with all that typing
2018-02-20 02:38
ty for conceding
2018-02-20 02:40
C9 got FaZe in 3 semi finals, c9 beat the top 5 teams at the major, so Yeah c9 gets tough draws
2018-02-22 11:50
United States DivoteLmao 
lol that's called getting far in a tournament not tough draws but c9 fans only found out recently what that is
2018-02-22 21:51
G2 played Astralis and Mousesports. They are ranked 5th and 6th, and both have been looking good so far. Depending on how the 2-1s go, there are plenty of teams that can knock out C9. VP can (but probably won't) upset, Liquid, Na'Vi, mousesports, Astralis. Aside from VP all of them are looking to be on better form than C9 this tournament.
2018-02-20 01:43
Norway N8C 
Mouz beat SK, and Astralis is Astralis. Wouldnt call that easy. G2 in this form would've stomped C9 too, they have been terrible this event
2018-02-20 02:11
Just like how G2 was going to stomp C9 in quarters. Calm the fk down, these are group stage matches, meaningless. Too bad FaZe used up all their Cache strats in a 16-1 group stage stomp because they're mad they "choked." I can't wait to see KennyS shaking all over the place again. Only talent he has is the fact that he's a brain dead retard because he still smokes in 2018.
2018-02-21 04:21
Belgium Gandalf666 
Why You hate Faze
2018-02-20 10:19
United States Shadow272 
Maybe mouz are gonna fuck em tomorrow
2018-02-21 04:32
They got 2 teams they previously beat on LAN. They got washed up grandpa's who play at tier 3 level for their elimination match? What more do you want? YOu act like VP is a good team
2018-02-20 01:33
That's what I'm saying though. They should crush VP. If they don't then the haters are right and C9 isn't the team people thought they could be. At least right now. Then again they 2-0'd SK a week ago on LAN so I'm not worried. I'm not worried about Astralis, Liquid or Mouz either. Mouz hasn't beaten them since freaking 2016. Only team that could knock them out if Na'vi and that's because Simple is playing in the motherland and he's on fire right now. Don't make me laught with that Liquid, Astralis, Mouz stuff though. I'll start worrying when C9 actually lose to a team that's not Faze or SK.
2018-02-20 01:49
Norway N8C 
They beat G2 on a off-day, and this mouz team can easily beat C9. I wouldn't be so cocky if I were you
2018-02-20 02:09
It's always an off day when C9 beats a team like G2/SK/etc lmao, most pathetic excuse ever.
2018-02-20 02:22
Norway N8C 
So C9 didnt have an off day when they got absolutely demolished by FaZe & SK? Let's see who does better at starseries & katowice :) Btw, mouz to send c9 packing
2018-02-20 02:35
C9 beat mouz handily late last year at DH at they'll do it again. Anyway no point in arguing. I've never said they are a better team then Faze and SK right now. Although the way they've been playing against SK I think it's close. Honestly in terms of raw sheer skill right this moment. Faze >>> SK >> C9 >>>> G2 >>>>>> Astralis And honestly it's not just the major the last four months will tell you that. HLTV rankings work the way they do for a reason and C9 were top 5 before the major.
2018-02-20 06:26
Norway N8C 
You are delusional. FaZe & G2 have way more raw skill than SK, Astralis and C9 kennyS >>>>> Skadoodle shox >>>> tarik apEX > Stewie2k NBK > autimatic bodyy > Rush
2018-02-20 10:09
Then why does G2 always lose to them? G2 to me seems to just be riding off past success of their players. KennyS and Apex are the past. Autimatic, Tarik and Stew are the future. Look at how old they are and the truth will reveal itself.
2018-02-20 13:57
"C9 beat mouz handily late last year at DH and they'll do it again" Lmao no, cya
2018-02-23 06:45
Japan OliverTsubasa 
The should crush VP, but it is still VP TaZ or no TaZ. They can revive that NA CS-killer instinct anytime
2018-02-20 01:58
Norway N8C 
Lol they are ranked #3 They should be able to beat any team if they wanna deserve such high ranking.
2018-02-20 02:08
Meanwhile g2 has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prove themselves other than beating mouz not only this tournament but the previous tournaments as well
2018-02-20 02:24
Norway N8C 
Reaching playoffs undefeated last 3 tournaments = nothink K And remove the G2 flair, your not fooling anyone
2018-02-20 02:36
You said YOURSELF that c9 should be able to beat any team if they want to have such high ranking Yet what has g2 done? Getting 3-0 in GROUPS with ez opponents besides mouz? I ALSO LIKE HOW YOU INCLUDED THE ELEAGUE MAIN QUALIFIER AS IT MEANS ANYTHING LUL Ok but that about before esl to blast pro? Couldnt even QUALIFY 2 of those and drowned in groups. at least now they’re actually going to playoffs And no im not changing my flair because im still a fan regardless if they’re shit or not lol
2018-02-20 02:49
France NA_Baguette 
Why so salty sir ? They also beaten C9 at major and astralis in SL So out of 6 matches, they had 3 top10 teams and 3 bad teams. Fail to see how they proved nothing
2018-02-21 19:59
Bo1s as if it means anything, space soldiers is fucking garbage and i dont see faze winning vs sk like they do in a bo1
2018-02-21 20:01
France NA_Baguette 
Astralis and mouz were Bo3 but ok
2018-02-21 21:44
“They also beaten C9 at major“
2018-02-21 21:46
dude +1, whats with this g2 hype still.
2018-02-20 10:12
+1 this is a great point
2018-02-22 22:11
2018-02-20 02:38
2018-02-20 10:14
its bullshit to get faze and sk, shit needs some kind of reseeding. i also think people saying they should be able to beat those teams are flawed, they have beaten them but there's a reason faze and sk are ranked higher still ;)
2018-02-20 10:14
fnx | 
United States MrFaZe 
how can you reseed even more with this format?
2018-02-21 04:02
France NA_Baguette 
You can’t do that beside first round That’s how Swiss work Btw people are also whining When it’s gsl, it’s random cause Bo1 When it’s swiss, it’s random cause draws Allways excuses
2018-02-21 20:01
Yeah but if c9 really wanna prove themselves as major champions, they gotta win one of the matches. Every team for the most part that qualified played at least 3 of the "REALLY GOOD" teams. Cloud9 didn't even beat one of them. They beat easy heroic and vp, you can't get luckier than that in a stacked tournament. TBH if they got someone easier in the decider round, they would have been really lucky.
2018-02-22 22:10
prove themselves as major champions? they've already one a major, there for they are a major champion. I'll be honest i didnt read the rest lol
2018-02-23 06:21
They did seed the tourney for the first round. C9 then got the hardest team out of the t4: Heoric Then they got the best team then they got the second best team then they VP (only good draw) Then they got the best team remaining in Mouz ya hate to see it
2018-02-21 04:06
France NA_Baguette 
Are you fucking serious saying that heroic is a bad dra ? They wanna be best team in the world, won major, they won’t do it by whining and making excuses instead of beating any team
2018-02-21 19:56
i never said they were a bad draw. Out of the four teams they could have drawn they were the best. They still beat them 2-0. Chill out bud
2018-02-22 00:14
France NA_Baguette 
I'm so tilted by those bad draw threads rn...
2018-02-22 11:38
Canada gritabit 
It's just bad luck. Even though StarSeries wanted to try BO3 Swiss, it's still a bad format for this kind of reason. If HR or RNG get's playoffs instead then this tournament will be violently dissected by C9 fans
2018-02-21 04:17
It's bad luck, but a major winning team should win AT LEAST ONE of their top matches..
2018-02-22 22:08
Canada gritabit 
Agreed. With the performance tarik and Stewie were giving C9 didn't deserve it either
2018-02-22 22:09
Yeah.. Stewie was the worst performer for c9 this event. People give ska way too much shit even though it was a collapse by 60% of the team. Rush and Autimatic did just fine in their roles, but ska and ESPECIALLY Stewie and tarik massively underperformed
2018-02-22 22:13
Issue is, if you wanna be a top team in the world it shouldn't matter who you play against to get to playoffs. People need to understand this. Sure your road to playoffs could be difficult but it cannot be unlucky if you are competing at top 5 level.
2018-02-21 04:19
2018-02-22 11:53
2018-02-22 22:08
Brazil Battistta 
I see your point, they got unlucky, of course, but didn't they win the last major just some weeks ago? if you want to be the best you gotta beat the best. but they have a great team and I can easily see them winning more titles this year.
2018-02-21 04:27
+1 C9 don't deserve SL playoffs at all. Who cares if you got 3 REALLY good teams? If you want to prove yourself as a great team, gotta win at least one of them.
2018-02-22 22:07
France NA_Baguette 
They got 2 free wins with heroic and VP...
2018-02-21 19:54
C9 is Major champion and #3 ranking team. They should be able to win over SK and FaZe (they indeed did in the Major). What do you expect? C9 vs Tyloo, MVP and Renegades (3-0) to the playoffs? This is pretty stacked tournament. You will bump into strong teams no matter what, especially with the Swiss system. Major champion can't win vs strong team shouldn't be Major champion. With this result, it looks more FaZe lost to themselves than C9 actually won it.
2018-02-21 21:51
are you legit from NA, cause you're actually making sense. I mean these guys just played like shit, lost out 0-2 to all 3 teams and it wasn't even competitive vs Faze and SK.
2018-02-22 00:17
+1 Haha. I'm legit NA alright :D.
2018-02-22 01:59
'they could have gotten Navi Gambit G2 Astralis or mousesports.' eventually they did get mouz and how did that work out lol they just beaten SK last tournament and online. it's not like they didn't have a chance, heroic and vp gave them freebies, they just had to win 1 more.
2018-02-22 02:40
They did get hard draws tho Best opponent team in 1-0 pool, FaZe Best opponent team in 1-1 pool, SK Best opponent team in 2-2 pool, mouz But ur right tho if they can't beat just one of these 3 they didn't deserve this playoff
2018-02-22 11:51
FaZe, SK, C9, Navi, G2, mouz, astralis, liquid (top 8 teams) all had to play each other multiple times. Everybody got “hard draws”. It’s virtually inevitable in swiss. If you want to qualify from groups in a 16 team tournament, there is a 99% chance you’ll have to beat at least one of the top 8 teams in your road to 3 wins.
2018-02-22 12:17
I know and im not trying to make excuses for them, they shouldve won if they wanted to be top8, but there is a slight difference between hard draws and the hardest possible draws, on all 3 matches they lost they had to play THE BEST team in that particular pool of teams, imagine if mouz draw renegades and c9 draw Hellraisers
2018-02-22 12:20
Then we’d be here crying about how c9 got to qualify by beating heroic vp and hellraisers; essentially the 3 worst teams in their respective pools. In the end, the community just needs something to complain about.
2018-02-22 20:00
I agree with that, even if you do get hard draws, you gotta win at least one of those hard draws. They lost all 3, so they don't even deserve the playoffs at all here.
2018-02-22 22:06
2018-02-22 11:40
"NA ERA" Yet Liquid is still in it.. lol
2018-02-22 22:05
If they had qualified, they’d have gotten the 3 easiest wins (heroic, vp, mouz) out of any qualifier other than Navi arguably, who ironically also lost to FaZe and SK. Let’s not forget Mouz beat them 2-0 on what are traditionally C9’s two best maps.
2018-02-22 12:19
+1 Cloud9 is REALLY out of form right now which doesn't bode well considering they just won a major less than a month ago
2018-02-22 22:04
Navi have HR with stand-in,Heroic with new lineup and struggling Gambit with new lineup, not bad.
2018-02-23 06:54
Denmark _T1tan__ 
2018-02-22 12:12
He puts out his respectful thoughts about why he didn't really think mouse could beat C9 and now when they lose, "HAHAHAHA CRY LOSER" you're just like the very hated SK fans.
2018-02-22 22:03
New Zealand Glyanyeet 
Well after winning a major against those teams, maybe they would have expected them to win both of the games Edit I just realized that all of the draws were random lol
2018-02-22 22:10
So what? Navi also have Faze and SK and they in playoffs now. Mouz have Sk,Liquid,g2,c9 and they are in playoffs now. C9 must win Sk, bcs Sk in not in good shape.
2018-02-23 06:52
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