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Pistols Need to be Nerfed
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United States _waterrr 
Pistols have to much impact as the game stands. NaVi lost Inferno literally because FaZe has better aim and won every AntiEco. All of the damage for pistols should be buffed but armor penetration needs to be made non-existent. This would balance them out and only make pistols useful during PISTOL round. No pistol should be capable of 1 shot headshot except Deag/R8. At medium ranges they should all be 3 shot headshot. And long range basically no damage. It's sad to see games being won purely off of CZ antiecos and is quite ugly CS to watch at the top level. It's in no way competitive and throws off the balance of all guns in CS. I
2018-02-24 05:47
#1
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United States _waterrr 
/Discuss
2018-02-24 05:48
#2
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Italy steven513 
LDLCZ-75 /Close
2018-02-24 05:54
#3
s1mple | 
Yugoslavia Szczurii 
pistols are not meant to be weak at all lol its just you have way more versality with another guns
2018-02-24 05:55
#57
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Netherlands 072 
+1
2018-02-24 19:09
#4
Skadoodle | 
United States Kdg90 
cz*
2018-02-24 05:58
Nope, the pistols are fine. Maybe the CZ needs a little re work but rest are fine.
2018-02-24 07:16
#7
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Finland Aibbee 
It's straight up bullshit that you're on ct and spend 6k to buy some shit and some noob can one shot you with p250.. if he's close enough..
2018-02-24 07:27
#11
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Japan 0x0 
if you have6k and don't buy a helmet thats on you
2018-02-24 08:00
#11
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Japan 0x0 
if you have6k and don't buy a helmet thats on you
2018-02-24 08:00
p250 can't one shot you now,it got nerfed a lot of time ago
2018-02-24 09:28
#22
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Finland Aibbee 
Five seven it's irrelevant..
2018-02-24 11:33
#23
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France DKdarKnight 
Yeah, Five-seveN on T side...
2018-02-24 11:37
#32
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Finland Aibbee 
Ffs u get the point why u like that..
2018-02-24 16:35
#36
jdm64 | 
Portugal Heleno 
probably cos the point doesnt make sense pistols are pretty balanced rn imo
2018-02-24 16:43
#44
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Finland Aibbee 
So you think 300 pistol which is stronger than 3k rifle is balanced.
2018-02-24 17:17
#45
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Finland Aibbee 
But thats just my opinion.. i think p250, five seven and tec9 should do 75 dmg on head not 91 or higher
2018-02-24 17:19
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jdm64 | 
Portugal Heleno 
yeah but u exaggerated quite a bit, no pistol can one-shot a helmet other than the deagle
2018-02-24 17:52
#60
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Finland Aibbee 
Im getting oneshotted by five seven. i even tested it on Aimbotz. U rly have to be like 1 meter away so it will one shot
2018-02-24 20:50
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jdm64 | 
Portugal Heleno 
really? well i havent noticed this since almost no one uses it anymore i think the p250 and tec9 are on a good spot though
2018-02-24 22:24
#63
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Finland Aibbee 
Tec9 is fine but p250 for a 300 dollar pistol is just too OP imo. I dont know mby they are good but im just triggered cuz someone run&guns me all the time with those stupid pistols
2018-02-24 22:32
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jdm64 | 
Portugal Heleno 
the p250 isnt that easy to run n gun with, and compared to what it was like before it is much better rn if it was worse, i dont think it would even be worth buying
2018-02-24 22:39
lolz. What the problem, then buy p250 everyt time and win a game. Lulz
2018-02-24 15:00
if p250 is so strong why are people buying m4's and ak's at all?
2018-02-24 15:01
#46
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Finland Aibbee 
So they can spray
2018-02-24 17:21
xD
2018-02-24 17:58
#8
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United States ItsImpact 
I agree that only deag should be able to one shot but other than that pistols should stay the same and they should buff Tec 9 a lil bit
2018-02-24 07:32
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jdm64 | 
Portugal Heleno 
do u mean they shouldnt one shot at all or not against helmet?
2018-02-24 17:00
#56
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United States ItsImpact 
Not 1 shot against helmet
2018-02-24 19:08
#9
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CIS Luchbm 
"NaVi lost Inferno literally because FaZe has better aim" /closed
2018-02-24 07:34
#24
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France DKdarKnight 
+1
2018-02-24 11:37
#10
GuardiaN | 
World Darge 
Pistols are fine. Remember the old CZ or Tec-9 times, that was bs. If pistols had less impact the game would be a lot more boring.
2018-02-24 07:43
#31
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Portugal NaginiB 
+1
2018-02-24 15:03
Only careless teams that dont use their utility, loses against force/CZ buys. Easy to shut faze down if you dont rush 1on1 without nades. The pistols are fine if you can handle them, not to good in my opinion. What would you do to the CZ if you could change it? Only s1mple can kill a whole team with CZ, god pimple
2018-02-24 08:51
Pistols are fine, the problem is not knowing how to counter the forcebuys.
2018-02-24 09:18
#16
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World locky0000 
+1
2018-02-24 09:23
#15
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World locky0000 
so why even play eco rounds if there's no possibility to win them? make cs more dull lol
2018-02-24 09:23
#17
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Hungary Bonte 
The games would be boring, as there would be no forcebuys, just full ecos, which are also impossible to win. Occasionally that would make half of the match pointless Btw cz should be nerfed a bit
2018-02-24 09:25
Didn't Na'Vi win inferno though?You mean SK,i think
2018-02-24 09:26
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Australia anxy 
It would make for a boring game to watch if pistols weren't capable of the odd upset
2018-02-24 09:27
I think they only need to turn down the damage by about 3-4 and they would be fine.They won't be able to one hit kill you but they could be used,still. This applies to the cz,5-7 and tec-9 ofc,others are fine.
2018-02-24 09:30
> NaVi lost Inferno literally because FaZe has better aim So what? Mb nerf all weapons to favour bots that can't aim?
2018-02-24 11:42
#26
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Finland Lassius 
The pistols are good imo. Only CZ needs a little bit of work. Its the teams fault they lose to eco's, they need to practice their aim if they lose to pistols with rifles.
2018-02-24 11:44
#27
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Latvia Andrievs 
I dont think the pistols should be nerfed but body armour and helmet should absorb more damage.
2018-02-24 11:44
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Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget 
"lost because the enemy has a better aim" is probably the dumbest excuse I have ever heard
2018-02-24 15:01
i think he means that pros are so good at abusing the movement and peeking with pistols that it makes them too strong at top level of cs.
2018-02-24 16:39
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Philippines Saio 
Pros vs Pros abusing the movement and peeking with pistols. Nothing wrong with that
2018-02-24 16:52
cz just clotheslines people its horrible and automatic pistol has no place in cs
2018-02-24 16:37
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steel | 
Poland cm[G] 
" NaVi lost Inferno literally because FaZe has better aim and won every AntiEco." i see nothing wrong with this statement - BETTER AIM, if ur better u should win on another note i do think the pistols should be nerfed
2018-02-24 16:41
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Philippines Saio 
"because FaZe has better aim" lmao I guess Na'Vi need to practice more But I agree on your comment about some pistol one shot headshot close range, but not in nerfing the 5-7,cz, tec9 it till it goes for 3 shots to the head before the kill. Should be only 2.
2018-02-24 16:52
they are go test it on bots if if you helmet you need 1 head and 1 body shot
2018-02-24 17:22
#39
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Finland Ez4encehaHAA 
Nah issa gud game and balanced atm
2018-02-24 16:54
"NaVi lost Inferno literally because FaZe has better aim and won every AntiEco." what are you talking about? NaVi won inferno in the groups against Faze 16-6 lol
2018-02-24 17:01
Damage is fine, it just need to be nerfed in terms of running accuracy
2018-02-24 17:05
#43
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Italy ProudAtheist 
omg i agree with this post but in another sense pls make deagle more noobs-friendly cause i'm a stupid silver elite and cant use it pls Valve pls
2018-02-24 17:06
they nerfed all pistiols and none of them can 1 shot you anymore
2018-02-24 17:21
#49
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Finland piirakkapoju 
"NaVi lost Inferno literally because FaZe has better aim and won every AntiEco." so that doesn't mean pistols are op that means faze are better than NaVi
2018-02-24 17:23
#53
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United Kingdom levymonsta 
I still don't understand why Valve implemented the CZ-75. The pistol has been broken since it was shipped even after several attempts to nerf it.
2018-02-24 18:03
#54
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United States PsychoLogical 
the only pistol that really needs a nerf is the CZ. close range you're done, dead.
2018-02-24 18:04
Pistols are not OP -> don't nerf them People knowing how to use pistols, aim with them, build strategies for halfbuys/forcebuys doesn't require a nerf of pistols
2018-02-24 18:09
+1 Pistols just ruined this TACTICAL SHOOTER
2018-02-24 19:10
Pistols are fine
2018-02-24 19:11
pistols are fine, only cz needs some minor range and moving accuracy nerf
2018-02-24 22:29
usp damage needs to be the same as glock against helmets and raise cz to 600.
2018-02-24 22:36
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L.K.S | 
Brazil Exfm 
Why do some casters say CZedge intead of CZ 75?
2018-02-24 22:42
#67
fox | 
Portugal MS_ 
I agree with you, #VALVEFIX
2018-02-24 23:18
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