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Brazil Homosapien_from_brazil 
It all makes sense now. Gabriel two-faced toledo is two steps ahead of everyone. His team isn't playing bad because they are bad. They are just throwing. You may call this bait but listen to my reason. FaZe has never beaten sk in a bo3. But recently faze has been quite good and they're no doubt the no1 team right now. So fallen likes too keep it that way. So he throws the matches so he doesn't have to play with faze at all. You can't lose to a team if you don't play them. Fallen is next level genius guys. They know they will get rekt if they go against them. That's why they throw only one match before their eventual match up against faze. It's so obvious.
2018-02-24 06:11
All this threads are done my friend they make this thread everytimr they lose So why again?
2018-02-24 06:14
No but the reasoning is new
2018-02-24 06:15
Oh ok it felt like i hav read this somewhere
2018-02-24 06:16
This is very good theory. Not a theory more like a fact . Two face Toledo is the smartest igl to ever touch this game
2018-02-24 06:17
United States EZ4CLGRED 
this is how i feel about clg red my brother
2018-02-24 06:29
2018-02-27 06:14
Australia Eagz 
C9 destroys SK on their best map overpass, they are sad and playing like shit
2018-02-27 05:30
They're not sad as they can just look at their bank balances to cheer up. They are playing like shit tho
2018-02-27 06:18
Australia Eagz 
Ohh i see they play shit cause they don’t care because they’re getting payed too much
2018-02-28 01:09
Yeah they get paid if they win or don't win anyway. Ez money for sk best team in the world
2018-02-28 10:28
Australia Eagz 
“Best team in the world”
2018-02-28 13:49
Oh sorry kiwi. The no 1 must be some new Zealand team. Oh wait
2018-02-28 13:53
Australia Eagz 
“New Zealand” Hahaha Brazil education
2018-03-01 01:12
Doesn't matter. It's the same thing anyway. Kangaroos are bullshit too
2018-03-01 02:07
Australia Eagz 
Why because you’re natural wildlife is literally rubbish
2018-03-04 15:10
We have favelas and beautiful chicks
2018-03-04 16:01
Reasoning rofl
2018-02-28 12:10
What's so "rofl" about that?
2018-02-28 12:12
SK > FaZe
2018-02-28 10:44
Ok fine But liq>sk C9>sk Ast >sk
2018-02-28 10:55
NaVi > FaZe Cloud9 > FaZe Astralis > FaZe Liquid > FaZe¨ AHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH
2018-02-28 10:56
Wow is sk only obsessed by faze Faze is sk s worst njghtmare lolololol Liq ast havent defeater faze in recent time lul Cry is free
2018-02-28 10:57
Lul online really Ok man i m tired of b.debating on hltv Lets end dis faze is shit i knw frm major n starseries Also sk been struggljng On teams looking good currently is liq mouz north navi This is what i think so yea agreed wid u to some extent Nohate Have nice day
2018-02-28 11:13
Faze is still garbage you know. Can't even defeat a T2 team like sk
2018-02-28 12:09
2018-02-28 12:10
Brazil brretroze 
SK T2?
2018-03-01 02:21
Um yeah obviously. Faze and c9 is the only t1 team right now
2018-03-01 03:27
Finland Taynz 
2018-02-28 14:00
suNny | 
Denmark Stvn_ 
Fallen 8000 IQ fucking genius
2018-02-24 06:19
Smartest igl to ever play this best FPS game to be ever made. What do you expect
2018-02-24 06:18
pronax 3 major.
2018-02-24 16:28
Pronax 0 brain
2018-02-24 19:06
0 brain > FalleN then So FalleN -1 human brain?
2018-02-24 19:21
No fallen is 10000 brain. He is Brazilian my friend
2018-02-25 00:38
2018-02-27 05:06
2018-02-27 05:15
P O U T I N E* and it's good :)
2018-02-27 14:23
Macedonia thrash94 
They don't want to lose against Faze but they would gladly lose against Liquid? Your reason about SK playing bad is just non-sense.
2018-02-24 06:20
No. They would rather lose against liquid than faze who they have a record . And liquid beat sk in a bo3 before so it's not a big deal. They were tired anyway
2018-02-24 06:23
Canada PolarApoc 
2018-02-24 06:29
Thorin record
2018-02-27 03:30
Losing to na its bigger shame that losing to faze i guess
2018-02-24 16:24
Macedonia thrash94 
My thought exactly
2018-02-24 19:51
Australia BTwice 
2018-02-27 03:06
Macedonia thrash94 
Thank you!
2018-03-02 12:42
No they're losing so they can change their org sk to mibr
2018-02-24 06:32
How does that even make sense?
2018-02-24 06:32
just like your point
2018-02-24 06:36
My point makes more sense than your point. Tell me what part of my point didn't make sense.
2018-02-24 06:37
So they just lose assuming they can't win against faze? And there's a reason why they have a record against faze..they perform better against the team and also faze always choke against SK. Why would SK risk losing all the money just because they think they cant beat a team they always beat.
2018-02-24 06:41
Faze has more experience now and they won't choke that's why
2018-02-24 09:35
Sweden Bangs 
Faze had way more experience overall than cloud9, didnt stop them from choking anyway
2018-02-24 09:56
That's because na burgers were ghosting for them
2018-02-24 09:57
United States qzkR 
Sk fans ghosted for Sk v Fnatic
2018-02-24 19:55
United States jaeger_steam 
lolipop lolipop
2018-02-24 06:34
Korea dev1sta 
Tbh your theory doesn't make sense lol. They could win against liquid and will eventually go against Mouz/G2 and not FaZe in the semifinals. If they were only trying to avoid FaZe they would at least wanna end up being ranked higher in the tournament? Beat liquid then lose to mouz/g2 intentionally. Bad bait 0/8.
2018-02-24 06:37
If they win against liquid they would play against faze you idiot. You're the worst baiter here
2018-02-24 06:39
And they lost now only because they didn't want anyone to be suspicious of their plan. Which is smart too
2018-02-24 06:40
What you on about? Faze would of played vs navi/astralis winner
2018-02-24 11:27
Yeah dumb people like you wouldn't realize everything is just a smart plan by fallen the best igl to ever live
2018-02-24 13:34
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Czech Republic Nikoleo 
if they would have throw there they play the match for the 3rd spot :D
2018-02-28 10:44
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Venezuela Kremator 
No, they are playing bad just because boltz suxs hard and the new SK system (by Fallen ofc) sucks because of him, just bring back felps and tell/teach him to not rush like a bull so much and there you go, SK top 1 again Also, maybe they are playing bad because SK (the org) didn't want to renew contracts with a rise (that's why maybe they are switching org) so they knowing that they are going to MIBR/Immortals just doesn't care about giving good result to an Org. that already left them
2018-02-24 06:42
That is just pathetic. 0/8 b8 m8
2018-02-24 09:34
They are crap /closed
2018-02-24 09:39
0/8. They are crap because they want to be crap.
2018-02-24 09:40
Nt 0/8
2018-02-24 13:32
Yeah nt kabab. 0/8 b8s as expected
2018-02-24 13:34
Poland Antonsnajper 
they wont win vs faze in usseles starseries they will fight on major finals and sk 2-1 faze 432iq by fallen
2018-02-24 09:40
Yes. They're saving strats for major. Good analysis Mr. Antonsnajper
2018-02-24 09:43
Idc for me is sk gaming still best team in the world godzera top1 wallen top2 fergod top3
2018-02-24 09:44
Vaco top 200. Boltz top 50000
2018-02-24 09:45
Slovakia pgb1 
Noobzera no impact
2018-02-24 09:52
True. Maybe they should hire your mom as a sports psychologist
2018-02-24 09:55
World lalt 
Indeed, SK have been pretty good at dodging FaZe when they are in bad form.
2018-02-24 09:47
That's exactly my point. It's apparently flying above people's head
2018-02-24 09:56
No cheats no win
2018-02-24 09:55
Proof? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
2018-02-24 09:56
Ate a lot of spicy indian food today so everything is coming out of my ass.
2018-02-24 10:00
2018-02-24 09:59
They are just not in good form.That's it.
2018-02-24 10:00
No they're pretending to not be in form
2018-02-24 11:13
Slovakia sanjuro 
no fnx no win
2018-02-24 10:02
2018-02-24 11:14
SK era over. Simpuru shitto!
2018-02-24 10:42
Okay swedistan
2018-02-24 11:14
Totally, favela burrito!
2018-02-24 11:24
My name didn't check out for you?
2018-02-24 13:30
Your burrito checked out.
2018-02-24 16:13
Well, it could be, OR they just dont give a shit when they lose againts FaZe, they are professionals, not the hltv kids who cares about record "FaZe never beaten SK in bo3"
2018-02-24 11:28
Professional? Hahahahaha Shut up faggot kid
2018-02-24 13:31
2018-02-26 17:45
Brazil Setrock 
I always laugh when SK loses to underdogs. LOL
2018-02-24 11:55
Then you must be laughing all the time
2018-02-24 13:31
allu | 
Germany Shlyywa 
Cause the Headsets were hurting :((((((
2018-02-24 13:31
They were unplayable too but sk are no1 so
2018-02-24 13:32
Faze Top1
2018-02-28 13:05
Brazil NotAMonkey 
Sk lol
2018-02-24 13:31
Okay fake flagger
2018-02-24 14:28
Brazil NotAMonkey 
I swear im fakeflagging "fi"
2018-02-24 16:20
United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Either this is a bait or you’re totally brain dead
2018-02-24 13:36
This is not a bait nor am I brain-dead. Tell me good sir why this is a bait?
2018-02-24 14:23
United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
You’re accusing a team who are among the top few in the world and have 4 members who have won two majors, as well being among the best paid players in the scene, of throwing. You’re also accusing the apparently “smartest IGL to ever tough this game” in your words (not in my opinion but ok, it’s a fair opinion) of creating a strategy of deliberately losing against teams they should beat so they don’t have to play against a team that they have always beaten in Bo3 or Bo5 series on LAN, hence by association all his teammates are guilty of throwing (unless there are any skadoodle type figures on their team). Maybe read what you write and think if it sounds reasonable before posting your garbage on here.
2018-02-24 14:38
You kinda repeated everything I just said and didn't really mention why you find it stupid?
2018-02-24 19:08
United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Because by their very premise your statements are retarded. I thought repeating them might make that obvious
2018-02-24 19:52
I don't find it retarded. Maybe you should check yourself for autism
2018-02-25 00:39
Brain-dead 100%
2018-02-28 13:05
Sweden wyv0 
SK playing like crap = out in quartets They never go out in groups SK are still a top 3 team
2018-02-24 14:36
sk 1000 iq.
2018-02-24 16:17
Best fight that never happen (c) Gabriel two-faced toledo
2018-02-24 16:29
North America TanK5 
2018-02-24 17:33
Denmark Xipingu 
So why throw the quarterfinals, when they could go to semis and let Mouz drive them over? Your reasoning falls quite flat at that one. Not that I would buy it either way, but that is a clear flaw. 1/8 for trying tho.
2018-02-24 19:54
Oh come on. Atleast 4/8?
2018-02-25 00:39
Denmark Xipingu 
2.5/8. That's halfway!
2018-02-25 02:44
Okay fair enough
2018-02-25 04:30
+1 SK still top1 those poor europeans are not on our level, we too smart for them
2018-02-25 00:45
EU in 2k18? LUL
2018-02-25 04:30
Brazil GoodBrazilian 
2018-02-25 02:47
Czech Republic b1g_braxt0n 
They got poisoned by eleague at Boston so that c9 would win. They are clearly still under the poisons effects.
2018-02-25 02:49
A very likely theory my fellow fake flagger
2018-02-25 04:32
Czech Republic b1g_braxt0n 
God bless you
2018-02-25 06:16
Brazil davidzor 
Nice attempt but bad info. Liquid have beaten SK in offline Bo3 series 4 out of 5 times in the last six months. One loss was an OT defeat in 3rd map. Zews have been able to handle SK.
2018-02-25 03:03
Exactly my point. So it's completely normal and not very suspicious. So people won't think about it. Except me.
2018-02-25 04:33
"You can't lose to a team if you don't play them" LOL had me dying
2018-02-25 03:06
Nothing to laugh at. I was serious
2018-02-25 04:33
cry is free my friend
2018-02-25 03:29
everyone in this thread are one of three types of people people who took the bait people who are baiting, acting like they took the bait geniuses like myself
2018-02-25 04:33
You are the baiter actually. Who is pretending to not take the bait and act like they're some genius while in reality there isn't a bait at all
2018-02-25 04:34
they can't cheat anymore .. why do you think all the people who were amazing blow dick this year? .... cheats obv all stopped working
2018-02-25 04:34
How can all the cheats in the world stop working at the same time? Are you serious? Simple's and stewies cheats still work don't worry
2018-02-25 04:35
Brazil vitorhsreis 
Brazil is a meme factory
2018-02-25 04:34
Who's talking about Brazil now?
2018-02-25 04:36
Brazil vitorhsreis 
I was and you just did it too...
2018-02-25 05:06
Let's talk more about the poverty and murder rate of Brazil right now. That's more interesting
2018-02-25 05:09
Competition was easier last year, a lot of teams have improved. SK gets tired after one maps these days.
2018-02-25 06:19
That's what sk wants you to believe so by the next tournament everyone underestimates SK and then bam they win
2018-02-25 07:31
United States lockerboit 
200 iq
2018-02-26 17:46
2018-02-27 01:53
smartest player guys :)
2018-02-26 17:48
Smartest player to ever touch this game
2018-02-27 01:36
Ans = boltz
2018-02-27 01:36
No boltz is good. He's just told to be like a noob
2018-02-27 01:37
Hidding strats for major
2018-02-27 01:54
Not major. Katowice
2018-02-27 02:00
2018-02-27 01:58
Stfu. They don't have diabetes
2018-02-27 02:00
What has faze won this year? How would you rank them or sk #1 at this point.
2018-02-27 02:02
Faze is undeniably no1 even though they didn't win anything. They're a strong roster who chokes at times who can definitely beat sk who's in their slump.
2018-02-27 02:03
2018-02-27 02:02
Flag checks out
2018-02-27 02:04
cry is free, your bait is crap
2018-02-27 02:08
Says the no scener. And no it's not a bait. You're an idiot if you think it is
2018-02-27 02:09
2018-02-27 02:10
Did liquid hurt ur feelings? again xD
2018-02-27 02:10
Lmao wut. What do you mean again? And I'm not even an sk fan
2018-02-27 02:12
Go choke on Naf's dick again
2018-02-27 02:13
You cant choke on small penises. Reported btw
2018-02-27 02:20
because taco is fucking trash ez
2018-02-27 02:05
Better than Botboltz
2018-02-27 02:12
2018-02-27 18:33
n0thing | 
Canada lgbt 
The entire CS scene is boring and pointless right now because there is no rivalry. Everyone is pretty much at similar level and they are all too friendly to each other. Don't get me wrong I don't like toxicity kind of rivalry but some rivalry would be nice. Only the motivated young players and home teams give it all at championships. SK is the best example of this. They don't try very hard they need some motivation to try or a big motivational taunt, like s1mple's knife round vs Coldzera). On top of that their tactics are overused and all other teams already read them easily
2018-02-27 02:13
You're very wrong. The entire Cs is very competitive right now and thus very random. Just because there isn't a team dominating right now doesn't mean the whole scene is boring and pointless. The point about the strats and tactics I can agree but that's just because of the game. All tactics possible are already used. And you need a new map pool for new strats
2018-02-27 02:20
n0thing | 
Canada lgbt 
As far as I'm concerned you are the guy crying about SK not dominating the scene. I have no clue how you came with that up. I'm talking about performance of teams and their motivation to play good. The entire scene is not very competitive right now at all. They lose and don't give a crap about a loss or a win. Like I said only young players and home teams are giving it all at times. SK was just used as example because you made a thread about it.
2018-02-27 02:26
And you're the guy crying that na era was only one week. What I said was Cs is not boring at all. You never know who's gonna win the tournament which is very interesting. And I'm not an sk fanboy or anything.
2018-02-27 02:52
n0thing | 
Canada lgbt 
When did I cry about NA era? I don't think you have read my comment. I never even spoken about NA era anywhere nonetheless on hltv. You must be replying to the wrong person.
2018-02-27 03:14
I have never talked about sk dominating either. How do you feel now huh? You must be replying to the wrong person too
2018-02-27 04:49
Brazil vicfels 
"playing like crap" LUL!!! sk only lose to one of the finalists in every championship! and most of the times lose to the champion, so what? sk have to win every single tournament now? kkkk
2018-02-27 02:59
Yes they're the best team in the world. Obviously
2018-02-27 02:58
Brazil LangBR 
Are you kidding? I thing somes thousands dollars worth more than "haha i never loose to faze" ( the difference between second place and fourth or less is big
2018-02-27 03:14
Doesn't matter to them. Their reputation is greater than a few thousand dollars which is nothing to them
2018-02-27 04:52
Australia Googgy 
so they throw in order to not show how bad they are? ok
2018-02-27 03:27
Yes. Makes sense. They're gonna get rekt by faze 100% so
2018-02-27 04:50
stopped reading at "recently faze has been quite good" >choking vs C9 when it matters and losing to Liquid even after they choke, also starting Pro league 0-4 >recently faze has been quite good Pick one.
2018-02-27 03:27
I choose the second one. Who do you think the no1 team is then?
2018-02-27 04:50
Coz taco is here,fuckin taco
2018-02-27 03:31
Taco is not the problem. No fnx that's why
2018-02-27 08:49
do u think fnx is the savior for sk??
2018-02-27 13:49
Worst bait I see today, Faze isn't even playing so well, they always loses to the same teams that SK loses.
2018-02-27 03:36
Still better than sk. Karrigan is a good igl. It's just that rain sometimes plays like shit
2018-02-27 04:48
This was before the slump u idiot
2018-02-27 05:02
that was 2 months ago so if u call from january-february a "slump" u have the time perception of a 5 year old child.
2018-02-27 05:04
Yes please tell me how many times sk got rekt after that? And you have to be delusional if you think sk is still top1
2018-02-27 05:06
if they lose today vs avangar they have problems
2018-02-27 05:51
They won't . Because the next match isn't faze. So they won't throw
2018-02-27 06:03
SK is just playing too robotic. It seems in their games theyre playing this because its a job. They arent hitting the shots they used to hit. Felps i think deteriorated the SK lineup. He lost them countless winnable rounds, boltz is defintely a step up. I just think SK need to get fired up. Theyre sleepin back there. Fallen has great strats but i think he can overthink things at times. I also think they need to work on their pace on T side. And i like to see more bait n switches on their ct side. For FaZe, NiKo and olaf just need to step it up. They also need to get fired up. Theyre also sleepin a bit. Theyre a sleepin giant. olaf and niko have not been fragging like they used to.
2018-02-27 05:08
No. Niko only frags against low tier teams and always chokes against higher oponents
2018-02-28 10:31
It depends how long you’ve been following nikos career. Back on mousesports niko carried them and was the only 1 to be fragging the tier 1 teams. If you’ve only been following him recently then you’re right.... but I’m talking about he needs to be that impact as he was on mouse.
2018-02-28 19:42
When he was in mouz he rarely had impact against higher tier teams and only carried against low tier. Very overrated player imo
2018-03-01 03:26
2018-02-27 06:23
they are losing so they can -boltz +fnx for next major
2018-02-27 08:51
A no scener Indian advising on cs. Nt
2018-02-27 08:53
'advising on cs' lol nt favela
2018-02-27 08:54
Yes. Comeback when your scene gets better. Oh wait you're never gonna come. Lol nt rapist
2018-02-27 08:57
fer is the problem boltz and taco are bad lets make sk great again! FalleN Coldzera x x x
2018-02-27 08:59
+fnx +Hen1 +KngV Ez major again
2018-02-27 09:01
fuck kng better to add some upcoming talent but hen1 and fnx are ok :)
2018-02-27 09:05
And kngV isn't upcoming to you?
2018-02-27 09:06
Hes dead, ruined his carreer, just overall overrated and sound like an idiot irl
2018-02-27 09:07
He's dead, ruined his career but in no ways a bad player. He's very smart in-game
2018-02-28 10:29
hes like the ibp players had 1 good tournament and then all think omg hes so good and then he get banned and people still think that this is his normal skill level but it isnt
2018-02-28 10:38
But the difference is he's better than all the ibp players combined and you know it
2018-02-28 12:11
he is not hahahahaha
2018-02-28 12:57
Na ibp? I aren't think that. The last time I remember they weren't major finalists
2018-02-28 12:58
Must be bait otherwise I feel really sorry for your brain.
2018-02-28 10:43
You should feel sorry for yourself then of you think this is bait
2018-02-28 12:10
This is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
2018-02-28 12:48
This is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
2018-02-28 12:59
Expected from Brazilian.
2018-02-28 13:00
Expected from swedistaner
2018-02-28 13:02
Denmark Xipingu 
And people writing them will be banned. They just forgot to mention that.
2018-02-28 12:59
People get banned if they write in other language than English?
2018-02-28 13:00
Denmark Xipingu 
Well It’s the only explanation I have for the bans I have been given in the periods where I did it, because I wasn’t offensive in any way anywhere else.
2018-02-28 13:05
I see
2018-02-28 13:38
Don't believe him. Just keep reporting
2018-02-28 13:41
Denmark Xipingu 
I won’t be banned for wanting informations on my bans, come on, are you that gullible? xD
2018-02-28 13:56
He doesn't understand that word :).
2018-02-28 14:03
Denmark Xipingu 
Haha probably not :P
2018-02-28 14:06
xD Have a good day.
2018-02-28 14:07
Denmark Xipingu 
You too :)
2018-02-28 14:11
I know what gullible is. Favela education isn't that bad
2018-02-28 20:00
Denmark Xipingu 
Fair enough.
2018-02-28 20:03
I aren't think that. Reported for false information
2018-02-28 13:01
Denmark Xipingu 
I’ve been banned 2-3 times for it. Explain the bans I get otherwise, because I haven’t been offensive in any other comment.
2018-02-28 13:04
Denmark Xipingu 
But yeah just report me, the problem with this site is that you just get banned, you get no explanation why you got banned so It’s impossible to correct whatever they want me to correct.
2018-02-28 13:06
You can get to know if you pm Jonathan e. Reported for ignorance
2018-02-28 13:17
Denmark Xipingu 
Lol why am I required to contact one? Every other site on the internet provides me with a reason, just write to me why then. That is just stupid lol
2018-02-28 13:54
Well then why aren't you on any other "site"?
2018-02-28 20:00
Denmark Xipingu 
Because there is no CS community anywhere else than on Reddit and here, and Reddit's layout gives me the jitters. It's literally crap for the eyes to look at. And Valve's forums is off-limits, it's filled with "omg banned wasn't hacking" threads and nothing else. How hard is it to have some standards on this page? The least you can do for people getting banned is telling them why.
2018-02-28 20:02
Well maybe you can appreciate the site for what it is and not make a big fuss about everything you think is wrong. Not everything in this world is perfect you know. Just be grateful we have hltv
2018-02-28 20:04
Denmark Xipingu 
I am, but it could use improvement is all I'm saying.
2018-02-28 20:10
Cheat maker is on vacation...
2018-02-28 12:13
Updating a cheat doesn't take a lot of time. He can probably do it on his "vacation"
2018-02-28 12:14
CIS s1mpletop0ne 
cuz baitzera at his finest.. this year he is not even top10.. its time to put s1mple in his real position top1 and navi going to be top2 at least
2018-02-28 13:07
Yeah we all saw who's number 1 when simple tried to knife cold
2018-02-28 13:16
CIS s1mpletop0ne 
he is just pussy
2018-02-28 16:14
Pussy because he didn't want to be knifed? Lul typical simple fan boy
2018-02-28 19:59
CIS s1mpletop0ne 
s1mple best player ever touched this game.. cry is free favela
2018-02-28 20:08
Pathetic bait. Expected more from simple fangay.
2018-02-28 20:11
Cuz Showliana banged Cold and Taco refuses to bait /Close
2018-02-28 16:15
Why would cold bang showliana in the first place? She looks like a goat
2018-02-28 19:58
Brazil lucasc515 
2018-02-28 20:12
Got baited like a true favela. Gj
2018-02-28 20:13
2018-03-01 02:28
Yes. But they have to bring back fers girlfriend for motivation
2018-03-19 10:41
tired probly cuz new org negotiations
2018-03-02 12:44
Cuz they took shitty new player from shitty team IMT -boltz +someone actually not shit
2018-03-02 12:46
2018-03-19 10:42
I mean I’m pretty sure your still losing to a team if you go out in groups and they go out in finals?
2018-03-19 10:52
You don't even make sense
2018-03-19 13:08
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