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Cloud9 isn't even top 10
jOELZ | 
World RealCommunismHasNotBeenTested 
Cloud9 isn't even in top 10 imo, look at their results. How can they even be top 3 on ranking? Proof that HLTV favours some teams? PROOF: hltv.org/matches/2318601/space-soldiers-.. hltv.org/matches/2317517/cloud9-vs-reneg.. hltv.org/matches/2314793/misfits-vs-clou.. hltv.org/matches/2316087/cloud9-vs-lumin.. hltv.org/matches/2314393/cloud9-vs-lumin.. hltv.org/matches/2314552/cloud9-vs-immor.. hltv.org/matches/2313662/nrg-vs-cloud9-e.. What more do you need? Cloud9 isn't even top 3 in NA
2018-03-05 22:22
#1
Sweden MJeyy 
Linking 2017 matches lol
2018-03-05 22:23
still relevant matches, how can you be top 3 if you lose against shit teams like this?
2018-03-05 22:25
#28
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United States Limmy01 
yes still relevant but no link to them going into 3rd map ots againist faze and beating sk several lans this year. every team has maps like these
2018-03-05 22:42
Do you need to unbeaten for in top10? I think it is enough if you win a Major 2 months ago.
2018-03-05 23:33
no but you need to not lose to shit teams
2018-03-05 23:32
Immortals is not shit they are major finalist in 2017(this match in 2017 aswell) Space soldiers and renegades are not shit too. If we think with this logic there is no team deserve top10. Rankings need to start on 11 lol
2018-03-05 23:37
#61
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United States Sp1Ce_ 
+111111111111111111111 glad hltv has somone with a brain
2018-03-05 23:40
Thanks bro <3
2018-03-06 10:53
all teams can lose to upsets man, it's not uncommon. even so, I agree that they aren't top 3 material, maybe not even top10
2018-03-06 00:34
#117
RUSH | 
United States 9ine_qBk 
By your logic, SK, Faze, mousesports should not be in top10 either because they lost to Ghost, Vega Squadron and QB Fire respectively! Also, if C9 doesn't deserve top10, the fact that they beat SK on multiple occasions and Faze - once in a major final, makes SK and Faze worse than them? Might as well start the rankings from 11 then. Since you won't find any teams in top10 who haven't been upsetted once at the very least by lower tier teams.
2018-03-06 15:47
well just link vega vs faze game, same logic applies
2018-03-06 00:33
Sk lost to gehost and they were still considered #1 so?
2018-03-06 12:33
they are considered #2
2018-03-06 12:38
FaZe lost a bo3 Vs vp and they were still considered #1
2018-03-06 12:40
this was when VP were good
2018-03-06 12:42
Mid 2017 Vp good Pick one
2018-03-06 12:42
i pick VP good
2018-03-06 12:43
Yes expected from joelz fan
2018-03-06 12:43
jOELZ 100% win-rate Cloud9 2% win-rate???
2018-03-06 12:44
Joelz majors 0 /closed
2018-03-06 12:46
/open Cloud9 win major because of luck
2018-03-06 12:46
Beating the top 5 teams in the world is luck?
2018-03-06 12:47
yes
2018-03-06 12:47
They also lost to gambit
2018-03-06 12:43
gambit major winners
2018-03-06 12:43
This was where their slump began
2018-03-06 12:44
2018 and people still don't know how HLTV rankings work, smh
2018-03-05 22:23
How damaged is your brain?
2018-03-05 22:23
BRA71L talking LUL
2018-03-05 22:27
Too damaged :/
2018-03-05 22:27
#4
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Bosnia and Herzegovina BananaKing 
You’re fucking retarded regardless if you’re baiting or not.
2018-03-05 22:23
best answer 100%
2018-03-06 10:56
#5
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Lithuania SiK_ 
Yes sure. 0/8
2018-03-05 22:24
There are so many teams right now that have the potential to win. So even if you think they arent in top 10 they still are a dangerous competitor
2018-03-05 22:28
Yes but they shouldn't be in top 10. Should Iceland be amongst the top 10 countries in the world in football? They can still win
2018-03-05 22:29
lol retard iceland are top 10... proof u dont know shit
2018-03-05 22:31
lol use fifa ranking idiot same as hltv ranking
2018-03-05 22:35
Iceland top1
2018-03-06 23:22
#11
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United States darth_mac 
0/8
2018-03-05 22:29
expected from C9 fanboi
2018-03-05 22:30
#32
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United States darth_mac 
realcommunismhasbeentested
2018-03-05 22:45
expected when NA loses argument
2018-03-05 22:48
just like c9 chances to be in top 10 xD
2018-03-05 23:40
#14
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Australia nutmaster44 
salty faze clan LUL
2018-03-05 22:32
#16
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United States cbd35 
Yes because some EPL matches really determine how good a team is
2018-03-05 22:33
I mean they've beaten Faze in a major grand finals. Beaten SK in multiple BO3's with their full lineup since the major. Beaten the teams they are supposed to like Heroic and Renegades. They should have won summit. They had a bad showing at Star Series. Winning a major, making the finals of an event and very nearly beating Faze again in Katowice doesn't support your argument. I mean they took the best team in the world to double OT again. Still fair game to Faze. The only truly dissapointing result IMO was the loss to Mouz at Star Series. They should have won that game. Other then that I think the team is doing fine all things considered. Autimatic has shown legitimate star potential. Stewie is performing. Tarik and Rush have regressed slightly but I think they'll bounce back. If people want to argue they aren't top three fine but you can't make that argument without also pulling SK out of the top three considering their head to heads. The fact they've had to play the number one and two teams in a row at the last two tournaments should be taken into account as well.
2018-03-05 22:35
#19
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Bosnia and Herzegovina BananaKing 
Dont bother hes autistic the moment he linked up online matches it confirmed hes braindead
2018-03-05 22:34
didn't know major was played online
2018-03-05 22:37
#29
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United States Baitor 
he has no brain you are 100% right c9 is a joke
2018-03-05 22:44
#40
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Bosnia and Herzegovina BananaKing 
Fucking idiot you cant even bait correctly I didnt know esl pro league and ecs were majors
2018-03-05 22:55
Oh sorry, i thought that "ELEAGUE Major 2018" was a major. A danish human who can't read and can't talk hltv.org/matches/2318601/space-soldiers-..
2018-03-05 22:57
#43
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Bosnia and Herzegovina BananaKing 
So 1 match decides everything? Fucking peanut brain OMEGALUL damn you cant even bait properly and thats such an easy thing to do
2018-03-05 22:57
Prove me wrong, every C9 fanboi says "C9 WON MAJOR OVER FAZE, THEY ARE THE WORLDS BEST"
2018-03-05 22:59
#48
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Bosnia and Herzegovina BananaKing 
-8285387838485/7 nice try, i dont even like c9 but i recognize that they are top 10 ANYONE even a peanut brain can recognize everyone 11 and below are g a r b a g e. If you said they arent top 5 yeah sure you’d still trigger cloud9 fans here its just fucking obvious bait, outside of top 10 is garbage teams who havent done as well in tournaments
2018-03-05 23:02
NiP in playoffs, C9 not in playoffs NiP > C9
2018-03-05 23:03
#51
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Bosnia and Herzegovina BananaKing 
Hopefully this nip lineup can keep it up it seems pretty decent
2018-03-05 23:04
no scene so puts world as flag xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2018-03-05 23:41
says canada LUL
2018-03-05 23:43
??? top 4 last tourney, won cs summit 2-0 sk
2018-03-05 23:58
????????????????????? who??????????????????? name one top tier player from canada ?????????????
2018-03-06 00:00
NAF is top player idiot, where is good player from your country that u hide because no scene?
2018-03-06 00:06
who????? my country have the most major wins, but no need to brag canade no scene tho, not a single relevant player never had, never will
2018-03-06 01:48
nope, no scener so uses world flag xD
2018-03-06 04:17
C9 was in the playoffs in Katowice lol
2018-03-06 12:50
Stewie needs to step it up a bit tho, idk what happened to him but he doesnt perform that well as he used to
2018-03-05 23:36
#18
Stewie2K | 
United States V1nyl 
Hey dumb shits, those were once in a lifetime upsets, and take any of those teams right now, and they cannot merely compete on the same level the cloud9 do (maybe liquid). They are in a slump now, but being majors winners, they deserve to be top 3.
2018-03-05 22:34
name one team
2018-03-05 22:40
#22
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United States snack- 
Oh man how can we even call Faze top1 right now !!!! hltv.org/matches/2305875/cloud9-vs-faze-.. They lost to a shit team 2 years ago
2018-03-05 22:38
not even the same team LUL
2018-03-05 22:40
That's what i call tier 30 team hltv.org/matches/2318543/faze-vs-vega-sq..
2018-03-05 23:01
#23
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Portugal ShadowFP 
"Define autism"
2018-03-05 22:40
Nice logic there retard.
2018-03-05 22:41
#27
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Brazil hugoooo 
Weakest bait of the year so far.
2018-03-05 22:41
#30
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United States Baitor 
2018-03-05 22:45
#37
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Brazil hugoooo 
How comparing coldzera stats from two different years is a bait?
2018-03-05 22:50
#46
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United States Baitor 
#1 in that thread explains why
2018-03-05 23:00
#49
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Brazil hugoooo 
LMAO, I didn't realized that I was talking with the same kid, sorry.
2018-03-05 23:03
#52
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United States Baitor 
i didn't know you talk to yourself, that's a little weird 0/8
2018-03-05 23:10
This bait is off the charts you really put a lot of effort into it good for you but i think you should try to watch a little cs before you go spewing things that make you look very unintelligent
2018-03-05 22:45
I've never read something so stupid
2018-03-05 22:46
expected from C9 fanboi
2018-03-05 22:49
So you’re just a troll is what you’re saying you don’t back up anything you say all I’ve seen is “expected from c9 fanboy” do you have any legit argument or just trying to be a top tier baiter
2018-03-05 22:52
if you read my post you would see my arguments
2018-03-05 22:55
Name checks out.
2018-03-05 22:46
can I come and beat the shit out of you?? its people like you that dont deserve to have children. Holy fuck
2018-03-05 22:55
#80
chrisJ | 
Netherlands Jardeet 
You couldn't beat your own dick skinny kid
2018-03-06 10:59
funny cunt
2018-03-06 12:41
I'd love to see u fight me I'm the buff like hulk hewgen
2018-03-06 13:31
Absolutely retarded human being even if baiting.
2018-03-05 22:58
Sk 0-16 renegades in 2017 or even 16 idk so they arent top 10 either obviously
2018-03-05 23:34
Linking 2017 online matches OMEGALUL You're probably an europoor and your favorite team is most likely faze xd 0 majors xd
2018-03-05 23:36
romania no scene so you cheer for the nation closest to no scene: NA
2018-03-06 12:03
World, scared to show flag so you cheer for the poor continent closest to you, europoor and for a useless team that is irrelevant, FaZe
2018-03-06 12:31
#58
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United States chovka 
Autism
2018-03-05 23:37
"These online bo1s prove something" :> #fanlogic
2018-03-05 23:39
#71
TaZ | 
United Kingdom JAYZ303 
<3 Thorin and copies his tweets. Wow you might be the biggest cuck on the internet.
2018-03-06 00:33
all in a days meme
2018-03-06 14:58
ROFLMAO
2018-03-06 00:29
Vega raped Faze so Faze isnt top 20 Ghost raped SK so sk isnt even top 50
2018-03-06 00:31
#70
TaZ | 
United Kingdom JAYZ303 
+1 maybe top 11. NA fans will say otherwise though.
2018-03-06 00:32
yes, mad NA fans because C9 won the major because of pure luck and nothing else
2018-03-06 01:51
4/8 got some people
2018-03-06 01:51
#82
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Panama Ben_Bait 
+1
2018-03-06 11:03
so what would ur top10 be?
2018-03-06 11:01
11. C9 renegades 10 every team moves up one rank, couldn't be easier
2018-03-06 11:16
goodbye
2018-03-06 11:18
triggered c9 fanboi
2018-03-06 11:27
#85
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Bosnia and Herzegovina tareekSYL 
They get in shape in 2018. /close
2018-03-06 11:20
/open yeah if this is the reason c9 are on top 10 maby VP should be there aswell, they'll get in shape in 2020+
2018-03-06 11:29
0/8 bait on both this thread and your account name.
2018-03-06 11:21
Name 10 better teams then.
2018-03-06 11:25
#83
2018-03-06 11:27
Renegades over C9 is laughable
2018-03-06 21:33
#95
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Sweden aer1aL 
0/8
2018-03-06 12:39
yes, you linked that they won against cloud9 so i think they should be top 10
2018-03-06 12:44
its simple, both C9 and SK farm a lot of ez ranking points by beating shitty teams in NA competitions
2018-03-06 15:01
#116
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United States FreshMaxPad 
2017 matches in 2019 LUL, i agree there not top 10 but your argument isnt that good
2018-03-06 15:04
what argument would you use?
2018-03-06 23:17
#122
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United States FreshMaxPad 
They had a lucky break, and won a major. The fact that they ccouldn't beat liquid in a bo5 when they had a 1 map head start and didnt get father then semi/quater's (not sure which one) since can obvi prove that they arent top 5, for the top 10 i would say that there is a lot of good teams rn including faze, fnatic, sk, north, liquid, mouz, navi, astralis, nip, and g2.
2018-03-07 16:02
yes they had luck, i agree
2018-03-07 19:51
A U T I S M
2018-03-06 23:19
UPDATE: TOP 10 TEAM LMAO hltv.org/matches/2319509/cloud9-vs-optic.. What is this shit, they should disband. They lose against some randoms lmao
2018-03-08 21:48
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