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Did flusha cheat?
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Europe ApziIsKing 
Has flusha ever cheated in his professional CS:GO career? What do you think? strawpoll.me/15250580
2018-03-11 23:47
everyone knows he cheated in the early days, nowdays i don't think so. Only that ace on train was a bit weird
2018-03-11 23:49
#7
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France Gneronimot 
Why ? That was like totally legit wtf why everytimr flusha makes a play everyone is saying he hacks lol
2018-03-11 23:53
u haven't seen his old clips, they are not OK and he had 20 of them while everyone else 1 or 0
2018-03-11 23:57
#24
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France Gneronimot 
And for the aces on train ?
2018-03-12 00:07
that was half lucky half dodgy but his 2014 clips were 99% fishy
2018-03-12 00:09
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Sweden D1SCO8 
First u say that ”everyone knows that flusha cheated in the early days” Then u say that he cheats because he has 20 clips compared to other have 1-0. And then u say that its 99% fishy. So firstly, if everyone knows that he cheated before, then howcome it like 50vs50 in strawpoll. Secondly, if everyone knew that he cheated before then why say 99% fishy? Fishy means suspected, weird. Just because it looks weird doesnt mean it is cheat. Heck, watch the shaking of s1mple crosshair, kjaerby shaking crosshair, krimz weird crosshair shaking, shoxie, ex6entz have a same ”aimlook” that flusha had on d2. That doesnt mean that anyone of them cheat. Thirdly. Do u know why flusha has 20 clips ? Because he was the best fucking player in the world for like 2 years straight. And after doing one weird thing, he instantly became a target of witchhunt and they started to check everything. And other pro has more or less alot of amount of “fishy” stuff as u call it. Kio had alot of them, shoxie, k0nfig, s1mple, byali, olofm, krimz, Coldzera, Fallen and so on. What does all those people have in common? They are all fucking great at this game. And those clips came at their peak. So going from certain that he cheats and then say fishy isn’t the same thing.
2018-03-12 12:48
#135
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Denmark qwedsa 
hehe, not sure if coincidence or not, but of all the names you mentioned: -shox was cheating in the early css days -s1mple was cheating in 1.6 and got ESL BAN (not sure if manual or wire ban) -byali was cheating in css (online PL league - gameback) -k0nfig was never found guilty, although I remember there was a huge discussion about him on dust2.dk like 4 years back about his voyage to pro cs which was, allegedly, helped by some 3rd parties. I'm just gonna add Snax for fun, who also got a cheating ban around 2010-2011 in 1.6 THey are still fucking great at this game, but remember, even the best reaches out for some help from time to time, either to beat the best, or to maintain that position.
2018-03-12 15:08
+1. Some players are just cheating to gain confidence + get recognition. They might be very good players anyway, but not good enough without cheat to go pro level. When some cheaters were interviewed they said that cheating helps them develop a lot faster. So i think if you are really good in the game, but just not good enough, cheating can push you to the next level. Then you can decide to stop cheating... but because you will play against the best teams day by day, your skill will actually improve to a level, so you can keep your position in the team. I think flusha also cheated in the past... don't know for how long, but that does not mean when he stops cheating he will suddenly become a gold nova :D pro players cheat just to improve a little bit, just to edge the opposition.
2018-03-12 17:51
#189
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United Kingdom craZy_y0 
Snax got ESL banned in 2011 the same day zaider (whoever knows him) and some other French guy but Snax got unbanned after like a month and the other two had to wait until the ban was over - that is unless you're on about another ban, and also dust2.dk didn't even exist until 2016.
2018-03-12 22:56
kio, byali good Kappa
2018-03-13 11:06
#55
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World bigb1rd 
I've seem his old clips and don't think for a second he cheated. Many other more mature and knowledgeable members on here agree. It's mostly only idiots who don't understand the game mechanics and were mad that fnatic raped their favourite team who think he was cheating.
2018-03-12 08:38
#65
Sweden fz0r 
even players like shox thought he was cheating back then.
2018-03-12 08:56
Shox is a moron. There is no one in the pro scene I like less, personally. n1ckst4r2002 is making a good case for being a moron as well. Everyone does not know that flusha cheated. A vocal minority is trying to make it appear that way.
2018-03-12 23:03
#236
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Finland jack7bauer 
Actually every 100% knows flusha cheated, even you, tho you want to deny it becouse your swedish fanboy.
2018-03-13 11:12
You just passed n1ckst4r2002 in the ratings. Congrats!
2018-03-13 12:27
Gibbie if you think flusha was not cheating you are just braindead tbh
2018-03-13 12:39
I guess in your view I'm braindead then.
2018-03-13 12:41
#274
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United States lumpy seal 
You're not braindead, but I think you have personal biases preventing you from looking at evidence objectively. There's pretty overwhelming evidence that Flusha cheated early on. The frequency and severity (either blatancy or clips whose only reasonable explanation was cheating) of clips from a couple years ago make me believe it was extremely likely he was cheating. No one can say with certainty he was cheating, but if you can't acknowledge that it is a likely possibility then I think you're letting your emotions interfere. Also a lot of people who don't understand how csgo works started clipping every kill of his that they didn't understand, so unfortunately they started oversaturating his "cheating clips" with garbage clips that are easily explained (not evidence of cheating).
2018-03-13 23:24
Nice argument strategy: I'm smart, you guys are dumb, that's why I'm right
2018-03-12 09:08
#79
Australia DubL 
sorry to break it to you - even the more "knowledgeable members" in the community suspected him of cheating in the early days.
2018-03-12 09:18
and who are these members u speak of?
2018-03-13 12:32
pro players, journalists such as R Lewis and Thorin - both who are more knowledgeable about the pro circuit than almost the whole cs community if these types of people had their suspsicions on flusha i dont see whats wrong about being sceptical myself.
2018-03-13 13:02
if the opinions of R lewis and thoorin about someone cheating is a factor in ur decision on the subject, then ur opinion is laughable at most...
2018-03-14 02:09
you've just made a fool of yourself what you should have been able to clearly deduct from my response and correctly interpret is that if my opinion is not one that is in the vast minority, whilst also having the same view as people who aren't just idiots that jump to conclusions and go on witch hunts, then I don't see a problem with being sceptical. you're trying to downplay R Lewis and Thorin - two people who are not biased when It comes to this topic and have previously presented reasonable arguments as to why it may have been a possibility that flusha did cheat (something we will never be able to prove though since that time has passed). In comparison, there are people who labelled flusha as a cheater without ever being able to confirm anything, and then the other narrow minded people who believed that when CSGO was far smaller than it is today - when there was far less to lose - that it wouldn't have been a possibility of flusha cheating. dont bother to discredit R Lewis and Thorin - anyone with a sane and logical mind can agree with those two in many discussions about the pro scene.
2018-03-14 03:36
it's simply sound cue. people are stupid. best part is the fact that all the videos on youtube use music so the steps can't be heard and it looks more obvious. you can hear a t running into banana inferno or leaving it towards mid from arch easily. a lot of pros just focus their crosshair on the sound to figur out where he's going. the most absurd video is the one where flusha "aimlocks" on Pasha from a-main Cache. Pasha ran up highway towards forklift and stopped then but he made a few steps and Flusha is really close. Ofc noone gonna realise that when the video is with music and basically no ingame sound. hilarious
2018-03-12 09:34
explain this one: youtu.be/upI8NYFzhkw Doesn't matter that he could hear him, the clip doesn't make any sense at all.
2018-03-13 13:11
#141
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
+1 He is just one of the smartest players in the game.
2018-03-12 15:52
First of all i'm not saying hes cheating, but he was sus with the aim. But as a earlier post said. A lot of people at there peek got called hacks. He doesn't hack now and don't think he did then. And your obviously new. your comment is not relevant. Learn to respect people.
2018-03-12 22:32
#176
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World bigb1rd 
Your profile tells me that you are a little kid and you joined at the end of last year. I am not a little kid, I've been on this website for far more years than my profile currently states and I think you probably have no fucking clue what you're talking about and should "learn to respect people".
2018-03-12 22:34
The fact you argued you aren't a little kid made me laugh lol.
2018-03-13 00:41
"It's mostly only idiots who don't understand the game mechanics and were mad that fnatic raped their favourite team who think he was cheating." Half of the pro scene itself thought he was cheating.
2018-03-12 22:58
And as I said respect other people
2018-03-12 23:15
HE does have a lot of clips from 2014 and 2015 but if were tbh many of those clips had no cheat in them at all, even as a fan I'm willing to admit a few of them were weird or "sketchy" but 90% of the clips ppl had on his didn't show any aimlocks or cheats only a couple out of the lot had any sketchy actions in them and even then they played so many games and tournaments at the time it could of been just a coincident, people act like he had 15 clips per map hahah not the case he had a sketchy action like once a month if even and most of the other clips were just witch hunters being witch hunters taking any clip they could possibility find and calling cheats on it. To this day his weirdest action is still the one outside of pit on Inferno.
2018-03-13 14:25
kill through the smoke he couldn’t see through it
2018-03-12 08:21
#54
smooya | 
Germany elseen 
newfag lol
2018-03-12 08:36
mewfag on what?
2018-03-12 08:53
#67
smooya | 
Germany elseen 
there is something called radar
2018-03-12 09:03
flusha cheated very blatantly back then. he subrozad so many times. instant flick to a head through the wall from a site to mid. yeah fucking kid.
2018-03-12 09:27
Not how cheats work.
2018-03-12 22:58
idiot trigger
2018-03-13 11:01
The smoke faded and Both flusha and rain Could see the other guys name pop up and both started shooting but flusha got the kill soooooo
2018-03-12 09:04
#73
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Latvia Tibro 
lmao idiot XDD you see in video flusha watching radar thru smoke,,,smoe dissapering at time so you can see him
2018-03-12 09:09
#76
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Latvia cycl0ne20356 
Im very dissapointed in you fellow brother, very.
2018-03-12 09:15
#78
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Europe ApziIsKing 
both players watching radar, rain started shooting like 100ms after flusha, not possible to react that fast
2018-03-12 09:17
#94
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Latvia Tibro 
kas tev ble
2018-03-12 09:34
#77
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Europe ApziIsKing 
both players watching radar, rain started shooting like 100ms after flusha, not possible to react that fast
2018-03-12 09:17
#118
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France Gneronimot 
The smoke is fading for the player faster than the GOTV and there's the radar
2018-03-12 13:31
It's not the smoke fading, in the clip you can see Flusha looking at his Radar on Cam, also the player is visible on his radar because he shot!
2018-03-13 14:32
Please go watch that clip back, normally I wouldn't give a shit but in that clip you can CLEARLY see Flusha looking at his radar, I mean there is actual footage of this with Flusha cam and everything, if you slow down the clip you can see the guy is on his radar first (because Rain shoots before Flusha does) comes up on Flusha's radar and he lays him out like the shitter he is.
2018-03-13 14:31
nah flusha shooted first
2018-03-13 15:21
I thought one of the faze players shot thats why they came up on the radar, either way the guy is on the radar any player above silver could of got that frag.
2018-03-14 00:35
#280
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United States ItsImpact 
It’s just a smoke glitch where they appear on radar or name tag. Flusha shot first
2018-03-14 01:21
#152
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Spain Miki2K 
youtube.com/watch?v=4itj1rk7fJ4 how tf is this lefit LOL
2018-03-12 17:46
its a bug when pressing tab+moving mouse. with rawinput 0 i think
2018-03-12 17:53
#155
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Spain Miki2K 
its a but when pressing aimkey+moving mouse. With aimlock 1 i think
2018-03-12 17:54
nyehehe
2018-03-12 17:57
#158
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Spain Miki2K 
Sorry I do not speak hungarian
2018-03-12 17:57
ok, no problem
2018-03-12 17:58
#160
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Spain Miki2K 
xd
2018-03-12 17:58
So they are thowing grenades and are about to rush mid. Can you tell me why on earth he would check scoreboard? Such a bad explenation.
2018-03-12 23:39
exactly that, no one checks scoreboard in that situation, but delusional fanboys will defend him with ridiculous excuses to the end of the world
2018-03-13 00:48
so despite he has probably one of the most expensive/best cheat, the program still instalocks on enemies through walls? nice logic pressing tab for a fraction of a second won't change anything. it is just a habit...
2018-03-13 17:47
Just like the aimlock on dust2 or cache, he probably hit a wrong key. Pressing tab on the other hand makes utterly no sense. Who got a habbit of checking scoreboards with 10 ppl alive in a rush?
2018-03-13 23:16
Legit Muh muh muh cry
2018-03-12 19:46
#163
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Spain Miki2K 
l2read i wrote lefit not legit noob
2018-03-12 19:46
I didn't say that you wrote "legit", learn to read noob.
2018-03-12 22:01
#172
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Spain Miki2K 
Legit Muh muh muh cry
2018-03-12 22:21
#14
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Sweden Ahmad 
Everyone aka idiot new reddit novas you weren't even watching cs back then so how would you know
2018-03-11 23:59
cuz i saw the clips and all the discussion around it, its not even close to OK
2018-03-11 23:59
#21
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Sweden Ahmad 
clips are taken out of context adn most ignore sound, call outs, gotv bugs and just pure luck other pros had locks too
2018-03-12 00:01
#34
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Europe tweekzter 
+1 I hope such people don't do overwatch. :D
2018-03-12 00:13
other pros dont have even 5% of his locks back in the days..dont forget M4A1-S spray on inferno
2018-03-12 00:56
#44
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Europe ApziIsKing 
running and suddenly happened to kill the guy not fishy
2018-03-12 07:36
#52
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Poland ToxoFox 
He locked onto a head of another guy mid spray on the 1st one? First up reaction time would be like 0.3 sec not 0.1 and there was no way he would be so aware of his surroundings while whiffing his spray at a guy 2cm away, unless he is a supercomputer or he cheats, pick one.
2018-03-12 08:31
#69
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Europe ApziIsKing 
he randomly moved his mouse on him while moving
2018-03-12 09:05
#125
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Poland ToxoFox 
“Randomly” 90 degree lock onto a head is random isnt it xddd
2018-03-12 14:52
That was the only weird one though - some of his other 'aimlock' clips weren't even suspicious, and the ones that were could easily be explained by what #56 said. But yeah, almost 4 years later and I still don't really understand that inferno clip. It's not proof of anything, though.
2018-03-12 09:37
#56
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World bigb1rd 
It depresses me that the poll is basically 50/50. After all this time there are still 50% morons who think any of those 3 second clips proved he cheated. Every one could be explained easily by calls, game awareness, luck, randomness, sound cues, etc.
2018-03-12 08:40
The sad thing is people never consider how smart of a player flusha actually is.
2018-03-12 15:30
#142
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
It surprises me there aren't more.
2018-03-12 15:53
#26
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Europe ApziIsKing 
that ace on train was gamesense nothing fishy with it
2018-03-12 00:08
You have to be mentally ill if you think flusha was cheating. They may be fishy but not enough to even be considered cheating. Autistic HLTV users are annoying af.
2018-03-12 00:50
Imo that train play was legit. It seemed a bit weird but I think it was just adrenaline rush.
2018-03-12 12:34
he still cheats regularly. just doesnt toggle aimbot for every kill like in 2014. if you pay attention you will still see him lock on enemies through walls. twitch.tv/videos/229895454?t=05h31m35s notice how flushas crosshair moves up towards adren in connector at a weird angle before he moves aim to heaven this is from from februari this year i have more clips from 2017 can look them up if you like
2018-03-12 22:41
#216
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
5 iq DUDE LOAD UP YOUR DEMOS AND WATCH WITH XRAY WHEN YOURE FUCKING MOVING YOUR MOUSE AND READJUSTING IT WITH SWIPES OFCOURSE ITS GONNA LAND ON SOMEONE AT TIMES ARE YOU RETARDED
2018-03-13 01:02
sure and to some players who are already accused of cheating for many other suspicious behaviours this happens a bit more often than to others. count how many times get rights crosshair stops on people through walls. or pick some guy who you think isnt cheating. and compare to some other players.
2018-03-13 02:03
#2
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Kazakhstan Spurdo 
yes
2018-03-11 23:49
#18
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Kazakhstan Spurdo 
oh i meant no
2018-03-12 00:00
#3
fnx | 
United States MrFaZe 
yes Mr.SenorVAC wouldn't be senorVAC without VAC
2018-03-11 23:50
#17
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Sweden Ahmad 
Faze fan you've been watching csgo since 2017 pls be quiet
2018-03-12 00:00
#32
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United States MrFaZe 
ok Ahmad
2018-03-12 00:11
#35
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Sweden Ahmad 
ok MrFaZe
2018-03-12 00:14
#107
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Germany Xirif 
Signed up 2017-01-26 LUL
2018-03-12 12:31
Don't know how long he has been a fan, but i signed up 2017 and i've been a CSGO fan since 2013. There's a big difference from being a fan, and having an HLTV account.
2018-03-12 14:48
? My account wasn't created until March 2017 but I've been watching for years. What does account creation have to do with anything?
2018-03-12 15:01
#215
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Sweden Ahmad 
Very convincing...
2018-03-13 00:52
Don't believe me if you don't want to. There is literally no reason to lie or care about how long anyone has been watching.
2018-03-13 01:40
#306
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Sweden Ahmad 
i mean id trust someone like nomad over a faze fan who started watching this year
2018-03-15 02:45
What does the team he is a fan of have to do with when he started playing the game?
2018-03-12 00:51
#45
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Europe ApziIsKing 
most faze fans started watching in 2017 after faze rosterchange
2018-03-12 07:37
#81
Australia DubL 
do you have any stats to prove this, or are you just making things up? I believe its the latter.
2018-03-12 09:20
#88
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Prove it or
2018-03-12 09:30
You don't have any way to prove that, and it also doesn't make any sense either... Even if they are glory hunters that doesn't mean they started playing the game in 2017 or whatever, I am a FaZe fan and I am playing CS since 2009/10.
2018-03-12 12:16
#217
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Sweden Ahmad 
Sure you are...
2018-03-13 01:03
#217
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Sweden Ahmad 
Sure you are...
2018-03-13 01:03
Good fuckin' response mate, killed the shit outta me and now I am going to cry myself to sleep because you fuckin' roasted me! #ROASTED (nope)
2018-03-13 12:50
#308
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Sweden Ahmad 
yeah just from that reply i can tell you are a kid
2018-03-15 02:47
I am not a kid, it's called saying dumb shit on purpose because I would like to make people feel better of their pointless replies.
2018-03-15 09:07
#319
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Sweden Ahmad 
sure thing kid
2018-03-16 04:12
fake news
2018-03-12 15:01
+69
2018-03-13 12:50
#4
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China ene1nz 
No, it was a hltv bug back then.
2018-03-11 23:50
No
2018-03-11 23:50
#6
Yugoslavia bleaq 
>past tense
2018-03-11 23:52
#27
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Europe ApziIsKing 
My English was correct?
2018-03-12 00:09
it was but you shouldn't have used it
2018-03-12 00:10
#31
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Europe ApziIsKing 
clickbait
2018-03-12 00:11
#8
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Sweden godname 
FLUSHA AND JW Should had been vac banned for a while ago LM AO
2018-03-11 23:53
You can't cheat on VAC secure servers u dummy
2018-03-11 23:54
+1
2018-03-12 00:01
#29
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
VAC sucks course u can
2018-03-12 00:10
ofc niko fan falls for the obvious bait
2018-03-12 00:13
#36
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
obv because im niko fan
2018-03-12 00:14
No, because you're a retard, and because of that, it's no surprise you're a niko fan
2018-03-12 14:45
#206
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
But u got baited by me?
2018-03-12 23:28
? I don't think I did. Please explain how.
2018-03-13 13:45
#271
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
i baited u that i got baited
2018-03-13 18:10
No, you tried to cover up the fact you got baited by saying you baited me in turn. 0/8
2018-03-13 23:25
#312
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
u got baited again
2018-03-15 15:53
#90
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
0/8
2018-03-12 09:31
5/8 since one guy fell for it.
2018-03-12 14:45
#138
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
I feel bad for him xD
2018-03-12 15:28
#10
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Sweden godname 
youtube.com/watch?v=QbVRcf0qIr4 even shox said he cheated
2018-03-11 23:54
cheater talking about cheating no wonder it's right
2018-03-12 00:00
+1
2018-03-12 19:50
Shox - the retard: youtube.com/watch?v=g0ekyFb0qbk said so, must be true then.
2018-03-12 00:46
#85
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Denmark aCggg 
Yeah he must be cheating then, even SHOX said that!!11
2018-03-12 09:27
#173
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Netherlands Deji 
Fake translations
2018-03-12 22:24
nope
2018-03-14 01:26
that proves literally nothing
2018-03-12 23:26
"u can feel its not his aim"....best line of that video
2018-03-13 12:40
#11
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Sri Lanka khorkalba 
It's one of those mysteries we'll never ever be able to solve, because you can't prove whether he did or didn't.
2018-03-11 23:55
+1
2018-03-12 00:07
It's one of those mysteries we'll never ever be able to solve, because you can't prove whether i fucked your mom or didn't.
2018-03-12 00:49
10 year old detected
2018-03-12 14:46
+1
2018-03-12 19:51
valve could prove or disprove it in 1 day at a LAN but they wont implement simple anticheat measures like giving LAN pcs no internet access, and putting them in locked boxes. therefore a lot of players must be cheating otherwise why would valve and tournament orgs not want cheap simple and effective anti cheat measures?
2018-03-12 22:44
No
2018-03-11 23:58
>no >i have no brain
2018-03-11 23:59
never has and hopefully never will
2018-03-12 00:01
looking back his clips weren't all that suspicious compared to other players, he did 'aimlock' but never did any crazy robotic mouse movements that couldn't be explained cheaters are k0nfig, kjaerbye, subroza, etc.
2018-03-12 00:04
#40
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Slovakia R0L05H 
Monkeyzera, FalleN "magic scout forcebuy win" Toledo
2018-03-12 00:50
k0nfig has magnet mouse so it does weird things due to steel balls kjaerbye just nervous so he shaky no one cares about subroza tho lol
2018-03-12 18:03
go to r/vaccening and watch the 2014 2015 clips where hes basically spinbotting and then say this again.
2018-03-12 22:45
link me the real suspicious ones, i've seen them all the most bullshit one from flusha was when he locked onto a guy @ palace after defusing on mirage but i've never seen anything similar from him again he does/did 'lock' alot compared to other players but it mostly looked like natural mouse movements btw the inferno clip is bs cuz of the shitty demo, not reliable evidence
2018-03-12 23:45
there are clips of some ancient game vs vp where he is aiming at heaven from inside A site turns around like 180 degrees and his crosshair lands exactly on an opponents head outside EDIT: i found it :) was vs navi not vp gfycat.com/PerfumedIllfatedBats#?speed=0.. if i see something like this im pretty much done gfycat.com/InconsequentialRightCrossbill look at opponents hp going down every bullet before he pulls the aimbot off target check these for some more old clips: reddit.com/r/VACCENING/comments/2nqxpk/d.. reddit.com/r/VACCENING/comments/2nxd13/o.. that inferno clip is NOT because of a shitty demo. i saw it happen live.
2018-03-13 00:45
the problem i have with these flusha accusations is that the gets accused not necessarily because of the type of clips that he has, but rather because of the quantity that they came in, which is imo not a legitimate basis to accuse someone of cheating. if someone like neo had 3-4 'flusha clips' since 2013 (chances are he has), noone would accuse him of cheating because locking at people through walls happens and can logically be explained as opposed to some of the things we've seen from other players. in terms of how suspicious the actual clips are, flusha is actually one of the least suspicious 'cheaters' out there, it's just that they came in a rather large quantity. youtube.com/watch?v=5Y4PXYEtpLA youtube.com/watch?v=gP7orzMxYec youtube.com/watch?v=WYllUMj87d8
2018-03-13 13:11
#257
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Romania Spamgol 
The mirage palace play is legit. if you’re at least lem in mm, by this point, after you kill someone you should already flick to the most obvious position someone else might peek in order to trade you, which in that case was palace. I,m only supreme and lvl 8 on faceit and that play is not fishy at all. Heck , when I ocasionally watch few of my demos, even I aim through walls on opponents when im clearing some angle or flick away after killing someone and I’m one of the averege Joes. What I find really fishy is shox’s dust 2 T long aim through the door, the one where his aim was shaking like he was trying to aim away but his x’air was glued on the enemy. I myself never experienced the “shaky aim” phenomenon, which I also can’t explain nor understand.
2018-03-13 13:46
2018-03-12 23:48
sure, do you think you can only pull off such moves with cheats? just look at someone like pasha with his crappy movement and crosshair placement who gets really nervous in clutch situations and does dumb shit as a result, that clip might as well be his
2018-03-12 23:59
didnt even land on the playermodel lol, ur just a salty fgt
2018-03-13 12:43
#43
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
If flusha cheated then olof would've said something about it already, clearly he never did.
2018-03-12 00:59
#82
Australia DubL 
Even if Olof were to know, he wouldn't say that flusha did - it would tarnish his own reputation amongst pros and other members of the scene. Journalists such as Thorin and R Lewis are aware of a lot of things that go on behind the scene even before it is released to the public - they don't jump to their computers to announce it themselves tho. They wait, till it is either formerly announced or until a certain rumour is released to the public and then begin to discuss it on their respective channels or in articles. They do this because it means that people within the scene know that they can be trusted and they earn themselves a good reputation within the community. This is similar in a sense to Olof if he is aware that flusha actually cheated.
2018-03-12 09:26
olof cheated too in fnatic might still do it hes a smart cheater so you dont notice as much flusha is one of the dumbest pro cheaters in all cs history, super obvious sometimes
2018-03-12 22:46
#219
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Sweden Ahmad 
cry more cheatJ
2018-03-13 01:08
go drink your goat milk achmad, time for bed
2018-03-13 02:04
#307
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Sweden Ahmad 
cry
2018-03-15 02:46
kqly cheated Did anyone from Titan said anything? No. Why? Because nobody had any proof.
2018-03-13 11:18
expected from flusha "twofaced" toledo
2018-03-12 07:38
#47
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United Kingdom tejas_moksha 
Flusha definately cheated in the past, its so obvious when you watch those old clips, his play recently was not cheating tho
2018-03-12 07:46
or he is using more legit cheat like sound esp and legit aimbot
2018-03-12 08:22
#220
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Sweden Ahmad 
UKK SCNENE HAHAHAHAHA
2018-03-13 01:09
Lol, you have to be retarded to think that he cheated on LAN where it's basically impossible to cheat. And why risk your career to win some online matches?
2018-03-12 08:27
While I don't think he cheated, it's idiotic to think it's impossible to cheat on LAN. He could easily have an aimlock key binded to mouse5 or something and there would be no way for any admins at the LAN to notice.
2018-03-12 15:04
#178
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France Gneronimot 
How the fuck ? Since years the gear is not his, he cannot install anything on the computer and there's always an admin with them
2018-03-12 22:42
the gear is his, and you dont have to install cheats on a pc, they can run automatically when you plug in a usb device for example. just like you can run a portable version of some application you cant install at work or in school. if tournaments prevented players from plugging in usb devices by putting pcs in locked boxes, and prevented internet access, and gave players new gear straight from the factory, then it would be a little bit hard to cheat on lan. currently its not hard at all, technically.
2018-03-12 22:48
The pros bring a portable ssd to run cs off of...
2018-03-12 23:23
incoming jonty
2018-03-12 08:29
Yes in 2014 he did, there are just too many clips of him aimlocking and stuff, theres just no way that he was legit in 2014/2015
2018-03-12 08:36
#57
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World bigb1rd 
Or he one of the best and smartest players to play the game as he's proven by destroying the current best team in the world last week.
2018-03-12 08:44
dude just stop, im tired of everyone saying that, how the fuck is he " smart " when he aimlocks at people? thats not being smart dude, i hope youre not being serious
2018-03-12 08:52
#72
SS | 
Europe ApziIsKing 
did you see those flanks against faze, 1v2 vs olof and guardian etc? he is really smart
2018-03-12 09:09
yea i know, but im talking about 2014/2015
2018-03-12 09:12
+ i never said that he cheated in 2017/2018, I said he cheated in 2014/2015 if you could read.
2018-03-12 08:53
No the more i learn about the game, the more i can explain his clips
2018-03-12 08:53
okay, explain how he locks on to everybody without using cheats?
2018-03-12 08:54
he didn't lock, he not his fault xray makes people paranoid
2018-03-12 08:55
lol
2018-03-12 08:56
theres not like 3 or 4 clips of flusha locking, its like 20 clips or something lol
2018-03-12 08:59
#89
Australia DubL 
no point trying to persuade some of these people I firmly believe that he definitely did cheat at some point during 2k14/2k15 - some of the clips just seem very suspicious. there's a reason why there are a lot of pros, analysts, journalists and higher ups within the scene that believe he may have cheated - some of the things you see in those clips don't have a firm explanation to them. also if he did in fact cheat, it was done in a time where csgo was a lot smaller - salaries were far less (back then NiP was making the most of any team), so in hindsight he had far less to lose in comparison to a pro playing at the top level nowadays.
2018-03-12 09:31
the real question is: why type 2k14/2k15 when i takes just as long to type 2014/2015.
2018-03-12 09:46
He definitely cheated in 2014/2015. Just look at some other pros, most of the pros have like 2-3 clips at max and flusha has like 20 clips, for me thats just TOO many to actually be legit. Even pros said that they believe that he cheated which makes it even more obvious, now I dont know if you can actually cheat on LAN or not but he definitely cheated online, thats nothing to argue about.
2018-03-12 12:28
youtube.com/watch?v=2tfyHmyjC9w you are dumb if you think the inferno and the d2 clip on A site isnt cheat. i bet my penis would be cut if he didnt cheat in the past also the mirage towards palace is a blatant one
2018-03-12 09:56
+1
2018-03-12 12:26
try to learn the context of the round first before you watch random clips. i have already explained a lot of these clips on an older post dust2 vs navi go watch the full round vod, if you watch the full round you'll see that flusha's position was known because he had just gotten a kill, and they knew that seized was in CT with an auto sniper, he tried to bait seized to peek him by firing a shot, his position was known anyway so it isn't a risk to try to do that. also you can see flusha's hand in the back of the player camera, he's sitting in the last seat, you can see his hand flick when he made the shot. inferno vs LGB youtu.be/2BkQ8RfB4CQ?t=1850 go watch full round vod, this was an anti-eco for fnatic (LGB bought p250 and deagles). at the time of the clip it was 2v3 and 15 seconds left, the Ts faked B and went A, flusha only heard one guy running short, he might have expected the other two to be on B or splitting A from long/apartments, the point is there was only one guy on short which is why he wide peeked short like that. it was a sloppy round from LGB because they almost had no time left to plant, flusha got lucky with the spray on the second guy mirage vs LDLC youtube.com/watch?v=yfL0UP6cb_Q&t=16m30s it's a post plant, it isn't rocket science that there should be a player in palace. they had info from kirmz that apex was in palace, also flusha heard apex running behind the smoke at the end. also at the end he was looking for JW's awp who died on the booth. here's the old post hltv.org/forums/threads/1647575/anti-hac..
2018-03-12 13:05
tldr 0/8
2018-03-12 15:49
get good at the game bro
2018-03-12 17:37
tldr he destroyed you
2018-03-12 21:36
#221
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Sweden Ahmad 
rekt XD
2018-03-13 01:12
youtube.com/watch?v=4itj1rk7fJ4 explain this one to me :D
2018-03-12 22:49
normal play, the position is extremely common, as for the jumpy crosshair, flicks appear that way on 16 tick demos
2018-03-13 04:33
its a 128 tick demo from katowice 2016
2018-03-13 14:14
alright, normal movement
2018-03-13 15:33
pls
2018-03-14 19:32
watch your own demos and you'll see worse stuff
2018-03-14 19:42
my crosshair doesnt jump that distance in 1 tick ever and yours doesnt either
2018-03-15 16:08
#231
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World bigb1rd 
Don't waste your effort typing, these people are fucking idiots half of whom had only been playing the game for a couple of hours when they first saw those clips and started shouting "ChEATzZz". Things have been explained before by many other adults who actually understand the game dynamics, calls, luck etc but it never works.
2018-03-13 10:02
Flusha fan here, lets be honest he most likely cheated back in the day, but not anymore
2018-03-12 09:08
why do you guys think it took fnatic SO long to win again? why do you guys think flusha suddenly goes mad when a game doesnt go to plan? because he doesnt cheat anymore and fails ingame are HIS fault and not the cheats. easy as that
2018-03-12 09:11
2014/2015 yes 2018 no
2018-03-12 09:19
true
2018-03-12 12:31
i heard he did actually cheat in the past, but not anymore. Maybe those cheating experiences from the past made flusha mad good just like how players like n0thing and swag cheated when they first touched CS and they developed their skill around it.
2018-03-12 09:29
#92
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
I was very salty about Faze losing the finals and Flusha destroying Faze in the finals that NiKo was doing good. But TBH maybe this guy has some incredible game sense. He doesn't have the best Aim in the world. But since he was considered to be one of the best in the world at a time along with olofmeister he must have something in him
2018-03-12 09:34
I agree, flusha is one of the most smartest player in the world, but that has nothing to do with him locking onto the enemy players.
2018-03-12 12:31
I don't think so. Like, of course it's possible, and it's true that some of his 2014 clips are suspicious, but either way I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, so my answer is no.
2018-03-12 09:36
#97
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United States b7a 
Yeah, he used to do some dodgy shit sometimes, but I'm more inclined to say it was dumb luck. Every pro player seems to have their moment now and then. And unless he admits it, then there's just no way to know for sure anyways. It'd be a shame if he actually did cheat though.
2018-03-12 09:39
dumb luck? 20+ times? i dont think so...
2018-03-12 12:30
It has to happen to someone.
2018-03-12 23:28
#100
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Romania ilunmusk 
100% he cheat lol
2018-03-12 09:58
exactly, nobody had as many fishy clips as him and even still they were disgusting
2018-03-12 10:01
+1 people who dont think that he cheated in the past are fucking retarded, how can you be legit with that many clips? theres just no explanation to it
2018-03-12 12:30
only people who lift the mouse can understand flusha clips ! xD
2018-03-12 12:32
true that LOL
2018-03-12 12:32
#222
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Sweden Ahmad 
all of u who think flsuah cheat are newfag sign up in 2017 XD
2018-03-13 01:14
we have another happykrank situation bois
2018-03-13 12:51
#309
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Sweden Ahmad 
what?
2018-03-15 02:47
Oh yeah i know you didn't do anything for 12 years u were in a come and now all of the sudden you're posting comments and insulting others because of their id.
2018-03-15 09:05
#318
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Sweden Ahmad 
i use to hltv for booking hltvs so what
2018-03-16 04:12
#112
TACO | 
Czech Republic VetriXxD 
Flusha - His top moments is on offline retard:(
2018-03-12 12:33
implying you can't cheat on lan You very easily can
2018-03-12 23:01
No. He lifts
2018-03-12 12:35
#117
kNgV- | 
CIS Agnikai 
557 silvers confirmed
2018-03-12 13:04
Shox is silver aswell then ;) youtube.com/watch?v=QbVRcf0qIr4
2018-03-12 15:04
#137
kNgV- | 
CIS Agnikai 
and shox was accused for cheating aswell by the community, so whats your point mr global?
2018-03-12 15:24
Mr global? K den
2018-03-12 19:52
that proves nothing?
2018-03-12 23:01
#297
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Cyprus Arkhangels 
so who's better to accuse another pro of cheating than a pro that is also a cheater amirite? Therefore flusha=cheater
2018-03-14 04:33
No, he never did. Every single clip is explainable.
2018-03-12 14:48
2 Explonations Probaly Explonation: SILVERS EVREYWHERE. 99% of the clips is just him hearing steps and aiming where he heard them. Da Real Explonation: FLUSHA IS THE BEST PLAYER CRY IS FREE
2018-03-12 14:49
no
2018-03-12 14:53
FLUSHA IN 2K18 omegakul
2018-03-12 14:53
#128
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Germany kng1 
lul
2018-03-12 14:53
no, too bad 4 cheat
2018-03-12 14:58
He was full blatant through all of 2015 lmao.
2018-03-12 15:03
G O D L I K E G A M E S E N S E B E S T P L A Y E R T O E V E R T O U C H C S G O
2018-03-12 15:11
#143
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United States Shadow272 
no /closed
2018-03-12 15:53
#144
device | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Flusha never cheated, simply one of the smartest and most clutch players to ever play CS:GO. You could take a lot of pros and watch their demos and find a lot of clips where they aim a guy trough wall, this things happen to LEM players that have some sort of crosshair placement.
2018-03-12 15:56
THIS
2018-03-12 19:53
You could take a lot of pros and watch their demos and find a lot of clips where they aim a guy trough wall those players could also be cheating. if someone aims in general direction of enemy okay, but if someone locks on to head through half the map more often than can reasonably be explained by coincidence, thats a different story.
2018-03-12 22:52
#298
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Cyprus Arkhangels 
exactly, look at this shit: youtu.be/CY5cjpvSeAY?t=399 lock to head, flashed, through smoke, through wall..
2018-03-14 04:39
lol so many people writing no ahahah retards
2018-03-12 15:56
Not anymor but in the olden days almost everyone cheated
2018-03-12 16:10
Did USA land on the moon?
2018-03-12 17:38
no and hitler still lives in argentina
2018-03-12 17:39
Tupac is alive!
2018-03-12 17:40
youtube.com/watch?v=upI8NYFzhkw this answer your question.
2018-03-12 17:39
this should be a confirmation for low aimfov aimbot... don't know why people ignore this :D
2018-03-12 17:56
yep....
2018-03-14 01:15
Judging from the strawpoll the majority of users on this site are MG or less. Damn, how shocking.
2018-03-12 19:49
no lol he never cheated everyone else is just delusional
2018-03-12 19:49
i sure hope thats bait
2018-03-12 22:56
waah im silver and flusha cheater
2018-03-13 05:12
you are just delusional
2018-03-13 14:14
proof thanks
2018-03-13 17:22
56% of HLTV confirmed morons
2018-03-12 22:33
hurr durr everyone who disagrees with my opinion is a moron
2018-03-12 22:56
>using "hurr durr" in 2018 bro get the fuck back to Reddit also, not saying that everyone who disagrees with me is a moron. but on this case - hell yeah!
2018-03-12 22:58
ive been saying hurr durr since it was cool, its okay flusha cheats, you are a gullible moron
2018-03-12 22:58
"ive been saying hurr durr since it was cool, its okay" lol dude tell me again who's gullible? i'm pretty sure it's the gold nova master who watched 3 clips and was convinced on the spot. "Wow, this guy who has played thousands of streamed matches has a couple of fishy clips - definitely cheating bois" go waste someone else's time nigga
2018-03-12 23:01
ive played not just this game but several other shooters for thousands of hours. i watched 1 flusha clip in 2015. it was enough to convince me. but if thats not enough for you dont worry, he produced hundreds of those clips, blatantly aimbotting through walls. literally hundreds. just watch some of his demos from 2014 and 2015. you wont be able to keep count how many times his crosshair happens to stop exactly on enemy heads through half the map. if you wanna have some fun watch demos of finals they played versus LG/SK. then both teams are doing it.
2018-03-12 23:08
lol dude you are pathetic sorry but im not wasting my night going back and forth with some dumb-ass on HLTV. PEACE
2018-03-12 23:08
lol nice exit strategy. you cant win an argument vs me so call some names and say im not worth your time 2/8
2018-03-12 23:09
yes obviously /close
2018-03-12 22:47
#186
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Brazil MommyStealer 
yes.
2018-03-12 22:54
We'll never know but probably is my guess.
2018-03-12 22:58
no
2018-03-12 23:26
Flusha beste
2018-03-13 01:43
yes he did cheat, but 90% chance he doesn't cheat anymore. /close
2018-03-13 02:04
You know that 30% of t1 players are cheating? I’m german professional coder and I have coded hware cheats to multiple esea rank s puggers
2018-03-13 10:14
#261
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Spain Arnau_Sil 
Yes
2018-03-13 14:17
I should believe you do this kind of thing because you're german, but I think you're lying, sorry
2018-03-13 18:58
he never cheated in his fnatic days but he did cheat when he played with xelos and jw i believe early csgo
2018-03-13 05:21
>implying hes not cheating anymore
2018-03-13 11:19
flusha cheated in fnatic "era" ~2015/2016. Since everyone started watching him closely, he stopped.
2018-03-13 11:21
Nope never
2018-03-13 12:29
#246
NEO | 
Poland HarePL 
Anyone who thinks that flusha cheated is an idiot.
2018-03-13 12:43
#254
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
+1 or they are baiting
2018-03-13 13:13
#262
paz | 
North America Mereko 
youtu.be/wdaKB1mdLlU?t=8 EXPLAIN THIS SPRAY, HITTING KIO AT LEAST 4 TIMES. HE DID CHEAT. BUT NOW HE DOESN'T. /close
2018-03-13 14:24
#277
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United States pepehands420 
he knows his angles well, also you know how often pros go for these types of wallbangs. law of averages, eventually he's gunna line one up perfectly like that. it's more reasonable to believe this than to believe he's using some advanced hacks that somehow fool million dollar tournament organizers 20 times a year.
2018-03-13 23:40
#283
paz | 
North America Mereko 
such coincidence yet he never lined it up again ? hmmm... cmon bro
2018-03-14 02:07
If flusha didnt cheat back then, then he is a serious contender for goat in csgo actually. Like holy shit so good. Bestest game sense for sure.
2018-03-13 17:56
#287
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Sweden kallespann 
he does "vac plays" now, just as much as before so if he doesnt cheat now, ofc he didnt before
2018-03-14 02:14
sorry, I don't agree with you. "just as much as before" is just wrong imo.
2018-03-14 18:28
No I don't think so. Sure there are strange clips, but there is for pretty much every pro. It basically comes down to statistics, if you have good game sense, good aim and play very much, there will be things from now and then that look strange if viewed in isolation. The first fault is looking at these things in isolation, how many thousands of plays are there that doesn't look strange? The second fault is that the people "analyzing" these videos and scream hax in most cases are silver scrubs that just can't believe how good these players are and that lack even the most basic understanding of how to analyze something like this.
2018-03-13 23:34
#292
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Cyprus Arkhangels 
Statistically, every pro should have the same amount roughly of suspicious moments. Yet, NIP players have most zero, at most one single clip on their entire careers, while others, like flusha, have more than 20 on a single year. Subroza, more than 10 on a single season.
2018-03-14 04:09
shox has more suspicious moments than flusha tbh, both are unlikely to have cheated as everything they did is reproducible
2018-03-14 01:39
#285
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
nah
2018-03-14 02:11
#286
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Sweden kallespann 
Stupid question He is doing his VAC plays just now as before If he doesnt cheat now, he didnt cheat before his game sense is just unreal unreal mental skill he certainly doesnt cheat now, so he didnt do it before
2018-03-14 02:13
#288
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Cyprus Arkhangels 
Of course he did: Look at this BS: youtu.be/CY5cjpvSeAY?t=399 After being flashed, he locks on a guy's head, WHILE FLASHED, THROUGH A SMOKE, THROUGH A WALL, there are 3 layers of suspiciousness on top of each other on a single play. Remember that Get_Right or Forest NEVER on their ENTIRE CARREERS had more than one suspicious play like locking through walls. And we would have seen them, Twitch spams VAC every time someone locks and HLTV is flooded with threads of "whatever aimlock VAC". There are legit players, and there is flusha who aimlocks 10 times per match.
2018-03-14 03:05
#289
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Cyprus Arkhangels 
Also: watch them in order: [flusha reel] [1] gfycat.com/InconsequentialRightCrossbill [2] gfycat.com/FoolishPowerfulBlackfish [3] gfycat.com/CriminalBriskBallpython [4] gfycat.com/LegitimateSolidGilamonster [5] gfycat.com/FittingCapitalCranefly [6] gfycat.com/NiftyDelayedBlackfootedferret [7] gfycat.com/DefiniteDismalBuffalo [8] gfycat.com/AcceptableAfraidChamois [9] gfycat.com/UncommonLightheartedEagle [10] gfycat.com/ForthrightAnnualGreyhounddog Dont trust me? trust on the pros whos lives are the game: [11] "devilwalk@flusha didn't cheat!" twitter reactions: youtu.be/47hSbfYuRVs?t=5m11s [12] s1mple official statement: gfycat.com/FaithfulCostlyIrrawaddydolphi.. 2014-11-25 07:31:32 [13]shox convinved that flusha cheated: youtube.com/watch?v=QbVRcf0qIr4 [14]zeus on flusha: youtube.com/watch?v=dm7CG68kGXE
2018-03-14 03:44
#291
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Ugh... Reading every comment in this thread brings me pain. Threads like these surmount to nothing except to start flame-wars. How about you all stop succumbing to conspiracy and start to use a little logic and common sense, hmm? He may have cheated, he may not have cheated - it's all down to the persons opinions and it's to remain that way. Stating it in an objective fashion like it's fact is outright false and idiotically laughable in many ways. I can explain every clip flusha has had, but apparently that isn't even enough to educate the HLTV masses these days... People simply cannot accept change and judge on bias alone, not logically. In conclusion, it's practically impossible to have an intelligent discussion with witch-hunters - believe me, I know... Have a good day. Awful thread, in my opinion...
2018-03-14 03:37
#294
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Netherlands nijoW 
+1
2018-03-14 04:18
#OldNews...
2018-03-14 04:12
"I lift my mouse a lot" did not do him any favors.
2018-03-14 04:18
#296
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Chile nachooww 
yes
2018-03-14 04:20
yes, confirmed last time he used hacks = iem kattowitz 2018
2018-03-14 18:32
#304
SS | 
Europe ApziIsKing 
nah he wasnt fishy at all on katowice
2018-03-14 21:35
+1 lul
2018-03-14 21:36
he cheated no doubt, but now he isnt
2018-03-14 18:34
maybe in 2014/2015 cheated a bit, but later decided to stop
2018-03-15 15:56
#314
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
Still waiting for vac ban.
2018-03-15 15:59
its common knowledge he was cheating where his aimlocks in 2018? zero!
2018-03-15 16:10
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