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Jugi & Woxic!?
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Denmark AimingForHeads 
legit these two, they need better teams. heroic sucks, jugi doesn't hellraisers suck, woxic doesn't what teams would they fit to be on that isn't a tier 3 team
2018-03-12 18:26
none
2018-03-12 18:26
#2
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Norway rogueplayer 
-device +jugi
2018-03-12 18:27
#18
swag | 
Denmark DamiXcsgo 
you're fucked up
2018-03-12 18:51
#19
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Norway rogueplayer 
nt PotatoKid
2018-03-12 18:52
#21
swag | 
Denmark DamiXcsgo 
Device > Jugi any day.
2018-03-12 18:53
jugi has higher skill ceiling tbh
2018-03-13 12:51
#35
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Germany Constikdw 
Serious? That’s the greatest joke I’ve seen today
2018-03-13 18:10
he would be a better fit than magisk so device can rifle Woxic needs to prove himself more but maybe Mouz or Navi
2018-03-13 18:14
#41
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Germany Constikdw 
The joke I meant was that you said that jugi had a higher skill ceiling than device...
2018-03-13 19:00
yes, that isn't true at all but he would be a great addition for Astralis
2018-03-14 06:24
Woxic good but not Oskars level
2018-03-14 06:34
#62
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Norway insy 
Yeah, lets compare s1mples awp to woxics.
2018-03-14 12:23
and s1mple cant rifle?
2018-03-14 15:49
#89
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Norway insy 
But why downgrade the awp?
2018-03-14 17:55
Woxic needs to prove himself more but maybe Mouz or Navi
2018-03-14 22:16
I would say jugi is better right now and seems comfortable but device has got a higher skill ceiling than jugi.
2018-03-14 06:49
#83
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United States eldrexe 
JuGi took awhile to get going woxic came right in and started dominating woxic > JuGi
2018-03-14 16:42
#65
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Switzerland veach 
no
2018-03-14 12:27
#72
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Croatia mds818 
in eco frags?
2018-03-14 15:50
jugi > cajunb anyday
2018-03-14 16:40
#85
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United States eldrexe 
Cajunbacktorifle > JuGi rifle JuGi AWP > Cajunb AWP
2018-03-14 16:43
cajunb is no more
2018-03-14 17:09
#22
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Kazakhstan SeksObjekt 
-(-device)
2018-03-12 18:53
#86
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United States eldrexe 
+1
2018-03-14 16:43
#92
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Canada Herodionus 
That would never happen, Device and Astralis is pretty much a family, they don't kick players
2018-03-14 18:00
#95
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Norway rogueplayer 
>astralis >they don't kick players 0/8
2018-03-14 18:36
#96
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Canada Herodionus 
Who did they kick for lack of skill?
2018-03-14 18:48
Fetish, cajunb, Nico, cajunb, Pimp, cajunb, aizy, Pimp (Guess he was more of a stand-in), karrigan and cajunb
2018-03-14 18:54
#99
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Canada Herodionus 
Lack of skill? First of all most of them weren't on astralis. Secondly, neither Karrigan nor Cajunb was kicked due to lack of skill
2018-03-14 19:39
All of those players were kicked from the device/Xyp9x/dupreeh roster, unless you mean to imply they magically became a family after becoming Astralis. Astralis is just like every other team, they'll kick players if the results aren't there.
2018-03-14 20:25
#103
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Canada Herodionus 
Before Astralis/Question mark they did not own the organization. They had no choice in who was kicked, where as in Astralis no one was kicked from lack of skill. Cajunb left/kicked due to internal issues, Karrigan because his playstyle did not work with Astralis, and Kjearbye because he fucking just up and left. Karrigan leaving was a mutual agreement, they are still fucking friends.
2018-03-14 20:39
What BS, you think the orgs are the ones making the roster moves?
2018-03-14 20:44
#108
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Canada Herodionus 
Yeah they fucking are, the orgs can force people to leave. While they aren't in charge of day to day running, if they want someone gone, they're gone.
2018-03-14 20:46
You are not correct. Orgs arent changing 100% on their own and most of the time changes are made by the players.
2018-03-15 07:41
#3
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India Ghandii2 
Faze
2018-03-12 18:27
no
2018-03-14 06:52
#4
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CIS STAboss 
Stfu , hr is rising , just remove trashfox and add someone who can frag and ez tier 1-2
2018-03-12 18:27
remove angel, he cant lead teams on t2-1 level :(
2018-03-12 18:36
i disagree, i think they just need to remove dead fox and get some other good fragger, maybe HS. Woxic is really good, ISSA is good, Angel is a good fragger and decent leader, and bondik is really good.
2018-03-12 18:38
Yeah, angel already have one of the best awper in his team, styko who is part of top4 team, bondik... And they hardly won t3 tourneys.
2018-03-12 19:49
Id take zero back over deadfox. HS another option. They could upset without deadfox
2018-03-14 06:35
#60
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Turkey osmanabi 
zero left because he was demoralized which was caused by him playing in different roles than he preferred and thus he underperformed.
2018-03-14 12:20
#44
Australia DubL 
ye if they make that one move they could become an even stronger tier 2 team I don't understand why hes still in this team, theres definitely better options out there
2018-03-14 06:29
He is literally one of the best fragging igl’s
2018-03-14 17:58
he is the best fragging igl but he is lacking igling skills in tough games.
2018-03-14 18:50
#5
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Turkey EydeX 
hmm Maybe ss can get Woxic
2018-03-12 18:28
I hope so. Would be very nice team
2018-03-12 18:37
#17
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France Gneronimot 
Calyx and w0xic don't want to play together again I think ?
2018-03-12 18:51
Why not? Is there beef between them.
2018-03-12 18:52
#24
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Turkey Balbaros 
basically yeah, they hate each other to guts
2018-03-12 18:55
Oh
2018-03-12 20:03
#32
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Kazakhstan TimaTea 
wow
2018-03-13 12:53
#33
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Turkey Adigeee 
kick calyx then
2018-03-13 12:56
#34
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France Gneronimot 
He is better tha w0xic
2018-03-13 18:09
#56
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Turkey Adigeee 
They are professionals and they are earning money from this. It's not up to them choose who is going to be their teammates.
2018-03-14 08:23
#57
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France Gneronimot 
It is lol, you are not going to put two player that hate each other are you dumb they won't play good in this situation
2018-03-14 12:10
I think HR pays better than SS, that's the main reason he won't go to SS.
2018-03-14 16:04
#114
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Turkey Adigeee 
that's why i said kick calyx
2018-03-15 07:35
#104
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United Kingdom swellis 
"what teams would they fit to be on that isn't a tier 3 team" he doesn't want t3 teams listing never mind t4 and below
2018-03-14 20:43
HR isn't a total failure and I am not saying Heroic is. At this point I think everyone feels like Heroic has capped out at where they are now. There are teams that it feels like Heroic is just going to have no real chance against because they are just plainly better than them. I really don't think its the same feeling with HR, especially when they had fejtz in the lineup. I just think that HR can get better and much better than they are at this current point.
2018-03-12 18:38
#61
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Turkey osmanabi 
with bondik HR can participate in the CIS minor so yes they have a chance
2018-03-14 12:22
Woxic is a mentally challenged raging teenager who destroyed his career by insulting calyx when calyx left darkpassage. He is insanely good and would replace ngiN 1 year ago if he would behave like an adult. Reminds me of flipsid3 s1mple hope he reforms aswell
2018-03-12 18:42
Idk if you're fakeflagging or not but you know nothing bro.
2018-03-12 18:44
obviously calyx doesnt want to play with woxic. The only thing SS needs is a awper and they are able to compete at t1. woxic is turkish awper with superstar potential but still SS prefers to play with bot ngiN
2018-03-12 18:47
it's the other way around. woxic doesn't wanna play with calyx. and he chose the right path imo. he can play any team he wants if he improves his english just a little bit more. if he went to SS and still has the same English his future would not be as guaranteed to be bright as right now
2018-03-12 18:49
wise turki right there
2018-03-12 18:54
#27
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Netherlands taorus 
Ye
2018-03-12 19:54
#49
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United States caliprep 
LOl why do people still claim SS is tier 1? No one actually believes this.
2018-03-14 06:36
apart from qbf top 18 are all t1.
2018-03-14 06:40
#107
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United Kingdom swellis 
What
2018-03-14 20:45
hr and heroic are meant to be like tier 4/5
2018-03-12 18:48
tier 2
2018-03-12 18:49
tier 3/4
2018-03-12 18:50
both top 15 tier 2
2018-03-12 18:55
Tier 4/5 *
2018-03-14 18:00
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Turkey WhyNott 
actually hr would be top 10 team without deadfox. he doesnt even deserve to play for hr
2018-03-13 12:49
#31
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Austria Laolon 
- draken + Jugi
2018-03-13 12:52
#36
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Germany Constikdw 
-Mertz +Jugi Mertz is good, but Jugi still much better
2018-03-13 18:11
heroic>north snappi>msl
2018-03-14 06:38
ahahahah stupid kebab
2018-03-14 16:42
OMFG PEOPLE IVE FOUND THE ONLY FUMB FUCK WHOSE A FAN OF NORTH. LOL moron.
2018-03-14 16:52
They are so back and forth its hard to call whos better
2018-03-14 18:09
jugi to optic or north
2018-03-13 18:11
#39
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Australia VeryNoiceGuy 
Hellraisers just has to kick deadfox, and it can be a top 10 team.
2018-03-13 18:15
#40
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Turkey Thunderball 
actually w0xic is stuck on hr at the moment. he doesnt wanna play at ss, wanna do something internationally. and also he has under contract with hr for 2 years. so unfortunally he has to wait ..
2018-03-13 18:18
#45
Australia DubL 
better that he stays at HR imo if they just remove deadfox for a solid support player who also can frag well then they can easily be at the top of tier 2 and be far more competitive against tier 1 oppositions not saying SS is bad by any means, but HR seems to have far more potential.
2018-03-14 06:33
#43
KRIMZ | 
Europe artilele 
-Guardian +JUGI -ngiN +Woxic
2018-03-14 06:28
#47
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Spain JasonRacism 
liquid -Steel +Jugi SS -ngiN +Woxic
2018-03-14 06:35
steel igl nitr0 good awp 0/8
2018-03-14 12:15
#68
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Switzerland veach 
steel isnt igl anymore
2018-03-14 12:29
#113
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Spain JasonRacism 
Nitr0 is IGL
2018-03-14 23:31
Heroic need time to practice yet, Rubino had to play esetags positions cos they didn't have time to practice anything else, and now esetag has been filling in for jugi. I don't expect they'll become anything better than they were though but no1 will leave till that's been shown first.
2018-03-14 06:37
Woxic on space soldiers would be good but as far as I'm aware he still has been with calyx?
2018-03-14 06:38
ss dont need an awper. paz and calyx are high tier awpers but their playstyle just dont need it
2018-03-14 12:25
-magisk +jugi
2018-03-14 12:26
#66
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Turkey judicialbaran 
-NGIN +W0XIC
2018-03-14 12:27
#67
Xyp9x | 
Denmark BoytanG 
Hr isn't bad, Deadfox doesn't fit the team anymore.
2018-03-14 12:27
-paz +woxic -mertz +jugi
2018-03-14 12:32
paz is good man. did you missed the major?
2018-03-14 15:54
I know,but woxic is a lot better awper than him tbh
2018-03-14 16:36
But paz isnt an awper
2018-03-14 18:12
2018-03-14 19:42
My bad sry,i saw him a lot of times with awp,so i thought he was an awper
2018-03-14 19:44
#70
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Europe arnos 
-deadfox +markeloFF n HR can be CIS team
2018-03-14 12:45
#73
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Croatia mds818 
Heroic is good Hellraisers not so much
2018-03-14 15:51
#74
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Denmark Dane01 
JUGi to C9 for Ska
2018-03-14 15:52
-ngiN +woxic and Space Soldiers would be a monster. But that won't happen #ThxCalyxAndWoxic
2018-03-14 15:57
#77
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Malaysia byaIi 
SS woxic North/Astralis JOGi just dream it will be never happend
2018-03-14 15:57
jugi is not playing for heroic last time,what could be the reason?Maybe he is burned about teammates' performance?And thinks that he deserves better team? Woxic has insane potential like awper,but Hellraisers is not team for him,he should be in Space Soldiers...And then SS will be numba 1
2018-03-14 15:59
calyx and woxic nay likey likey and Jugi is sick I believe, or it was personal issues. How about.. North -mertz +jugi
2018-03-14 21:47
NAVI -edward, -flamie
2018-03-14 16:37
#106
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Poland wawywo 
lol hr isnt that bad
2018-03-14 20:44
woxic=guardian
2018-03-14 20:47
woxic would fit navi, i think. with s1mple, they'd destroy every fuckin team. both s1mple and woxic can awp and rifle
2018-03-14 20:48
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