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Ryzen question
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Brazil metal_is_the_law 
People keep saying that RYZEN is not optimized YET for games. Can a ryzen 5 1600 have an optimization on existing games such CS:GO and Battlefield 1 ?? Who can optimize it ?? - NVIDIA ? (by developing new graphic drivers ?) - GAMES ? (releasing new updates of those existing games ?) - WINDOWS ? (updating the DIRECT X ?) Or it can only be optimized on new games, with completely new codes ?
2018-03-17 19:06
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ScreaM | 
Dominican Republic casxd 
Valve best optimizer company
2018-03-17 19:08
#28
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Denmark happyDane 
0/8
2018-03-20 00:06
#2
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Norway rogueplayer 
I always buy nvidia and intel
2018-03-17 19:08
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Denmark happyDane 
do you have BMX as well?
2018-03-20 00:06
ryzen is optimised. the problem is that an intel beats the ryzen in gaming. yes ryzen isn't that far behind but it's a slight advantage for intel. but in editing/software developing e.t.c ryzen has the advantage over intel.
2018-03-17 19:10
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Poland zennix 
+1 just buy a ryzen
2018-03-17 19:12
But my point is.. I see a ryzen 5 1600 with 30% usage and less FPS than the i5 8400 with 60% usage and more FPS. So it's clear that Ryzen is a far superior processor that is not being fully used by the games. So ryzen is indeed NOT OPTIMIZED. So who can do this ?? DirectX, NIVIDA or the games themselves (by releasing new updates) ?
2018-03-17 19:16
2018-03-17 19:17
Yeah, i saw this only example so far.. This gave me hope.. I really want BF1 and CSGo to be optimized. I'm probably going for the ryzen instead of i5 8400.
2018-03-17 19:20
if you only play games then it's up to your choice. but if you do video editing / rendering / working with software then definitely yes.
2018-03-17 19:22
everything depends how games developers optimize their games, nowadays we get often shit port from consoles
2018-03-17 19:12
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Other canano 
Also, even though AMD is worse on IPC, if you intend to keep that CPU for a long time, it's clear "more futureproof".
2018-03-17 19:15
That's what i'm thinking.. I'm seeing i5 8400 raping the ryzen 5 1600 on every game, but with way higher CPU LOAD.. like 30% +. And also getting hotter. My question is if i can't get this "futureproof" on existing games, like CSGO and Battlefield 1, the two games i play the most.
2018-03-17 19:18
1600 should be able to handle BF1 Not CSGO because CSGO is unoptimized as fuck despite what anyone says.
2018-03-17 19:20
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Czech Republic DemoroCZ 
I have 1600X with R9 280, FPS never drops below 250 :P
2018-03-17 19:24
I have a gtx 1050 2gb, so i play BF1 at 1080p on low settings. If i had a GTX 1080TI i know that Ryzen 5 1600 can match the performance of the i5 8400 because with ULTRA settings the CPU is not that important.. But with LOW SETTINGS i might get something like 30fps more on the i5 8400, i'm not sure.. This is what's making me so insecure about which one should i get.. But when i think about future, otpimization, new progams i might start using... RYZEN 5 1600 seems like the legit choice..
2018-03-17 19:28
I'd get the Ryzen and wait till gpu prices cool down and upgrade ur gpu then.
2018-03-17 19:31
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Other canano 
Well, I still have about 250 fps with it (on CSGO) and I just have a MSI RX460 2GB. I play 1400x1050 black bars, mostly with the settings on low, though. Can't say anything about BF1.
2018-03-17 20:04
Whoever is saying that hasn't been paying attention for the last 8 months. New drivers and game updates are optimized for current releases, already.
2018-03-17 19:23
Intel is better for games like csgo because intel chips have higher ipc, faster clock speed, and more overclocking headroom. Ryzen is as optimized as it will get in most cases. Developers of games can further optimize for ryzen, but they probably won’t do much more if they already haven’t done anything.
2018-03-17 19:25
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Bulgaria 3c0seR 
I play on ryzen 5 and nvidia 1050 and I get 200-300 fps on all maps
2018-03-17 19:26
What about BF1 ?? I need someone to test 1080p on low settings.. I've never found anyone playing BF1 LOW SETTINGS with a ryzen 5 1600.. Cause low settings really shows the processor's potential.
2018-03-17 19:29
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shox | 
Bulgaria 3c0seR 
I play on 1280x960 and pretty much everything on low
2018-03-20 00:04
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Europe Instabait 
games - intel rest - ryzen
2018-03-17 19:33
Ryzen is just fine for gaming, you won't ever notice the difference with an I5.
2018-03-17 20:13
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Europe Instabait 
Must be mad to chose same price ryzen over i3 8100 ...
2018-03-19 00:04
> Or it can only be optimized on new games, with completely new codes ? Yes, it's completely up to game devs. If they want to optimize their games they will do it. If they're brainless they will make up shitty coded engines, otherwise they will make engines like IdTech 6 that doesn't care if you have 2 cores or fucking 10.
2018-03-17 20:08
#25
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Buy a ryzen and hope that games abuse of the multi-core performance or buy an I7 and just game. Tbh it's not much that AMD can do to have a better performance, just getting a higher single core performance is enough, but you can only get so much power n heat without everything going to shit. I would buy a Ryzen bcuz it's still quite cheap considering that it works great. In graphics Card just buy Nvidia, AMD is behind in graphics, idk what's their best GPU but if it's Rx580 then it's just a joke.
2018-03-19 00:12
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Andorra DiaRhea 
I have ryzen 1600 + gtx 1070 and i get amazing performance in all games i have played. Even csgo bcs i play csgo in low settings low resoultion still i get more than 200fps and mostly above 300fps. AC Origins, witcher 3, gta V, etc etc etc All easy more than 80fps at all times with CPU low temperature and under 50%.
2018-03-19 00:17
They will optimize for more than 6 cores now because i5 are 6c and xbox/ps4 are 8c. So all games will be just fine with ryzen but if you can put 500$ on mobo+cpu take an i7.
2018-03-20 00:10
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