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s1mple OPTIONS
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
He is contracted with Navi until 2020(?) and he is the best player in the world, so his buyout is probably close to $1million. SK - They probably have the money buy why would he join a brazilian team, they had to speak english which would affect their gameplay and teamplay, also coldzera and s1mple wouldnt work cause both toxic af Mouz - They are solid top5 team atm and probably wouldnt pay his buyout VP - most likely; they have the money to buy him out of his contract and could pay a huge salary Navi - hes probably just trolling and wont switch teams Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-18 21:27
#1
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United Kingdom Roarhaven 
+1 s1mple will stay till after London major and then leave when his buyout is more reasonable
2018-03-18 21:37
he won't get for sure to VP and SK, i think he will stay in Na'Vi until they won't play well and if not he will leave and stay without team. mouz could be actually great for s1mple but i don't see him playing in another team this year.
2018-03-19 09:50
He joined Navi because he was home sick when he played for liquid. Why would he join anyone else ?
2018-03-19 23:10
he can be at his home and play for mouz? XDDDDDDDD
2018-03-20 00:55
also liquid wasnt doing well
2018-03-22 02:01
+1
2018-03-20 22:07
#251
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Ukraine potapUA 
Natus Vincere will never let S1mple leave they would rather tell him he can make whatever lineup he wants, I mean look how many people watch this guys stream, so its a strong advertisement for them, he is a popular player everyone talks about and also if not the best player in the world. Also playing for NaVi he can live in Kyev with his family and friends , which is very important for him cause thats basicaly why he left United States.
2018-03-21 14:09
+1
2018-03-22 02:01
#2
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Indonesia BrokenClocks 
WHAT ABOUT LIQUID?
2018-03-18 21:39
#10
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
he wont leave Ukraine again Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-18 21:44
#66
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Slovakia B8ed 
Why did you mention sk then?
2018-03-18 23:19
#75
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Norway Crush<3 
SK moving to Ukraine confirmed ofc
2018-03-18 23:28
#139
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Korea ysmple 
rly? can i see any mentions?
2018-03-19 08:03
yes
2018-03-19 09:00
#161
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Norway Crush<3 
yes
2018-03-19 14:40
#184
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Ukraine kek1 
yes
2018-03-19 22:19
#237
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Europe Flexi3 
I heard that Brazilian squad (SK) gonna move to Immortals. If it's true SK will invite s1mple & flamie and will create a new CIS (probably) top#3 roaster. I hope it's will be like s1mple flamie ANGE1 + Johnta (coach). Hiko (idk if it possible) Hobbit/Adren Woxic/ISSA
2018-03-21 00:18
#242
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Brazil h8er^_^ 
Are you serious? Hiko? I hope that is a joke.
2018-03-21 01:03
-Hiko +Dosia.i think hiko never with s1mple again
2018-03-21 14:03
SK was supposed to contract NTC...
2018-03-22 02:02
#189
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Poland unlol 
Theres no Hiko in Liquid anymore
2018-03-19 23:04
#3
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Malaysia byaIi 
s1mple smooya dephh surreal stan1ey UK last hope ?
2018-03-18 21:41
imagine double awp setup from smooya and simple on train XD
2018-03-18 21:46
surreal won't let smooya awp
2018-03-18 22:33
nt nickstar brother
2018-03-18 22:38
so sorry
2018-03-18 22:38
This is actually making me sick, I think i might die because of this comment
2018-03-18 23:36
css=UK last hope
2018-03-22 02:03
NaVi will buyout Mir and put edward on the bench, if flamie continues to under perform they will replace him, i dont know who with. I think we should give zeus more time but if he cant run the team well enough, replace him with Angel
2018-03-18 21:41
Angel S1mple Electronic Mir Flamie/Waylander/chopper?
2018-03-18 21:45
#17
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Switzerland S!TH 
fucking waylander ? are you fucking kidding me ?
2018-03-18 21:47
#67
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Denmark Xipingu 
IKR, WayLander is overrated asf
2018-03-18 23:20
#84
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Switzerland S!TH 
yeah HLTV is so retarded this guys is by far the worst overrated guy
2018-03-18 23:38
#85
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1
2018-03-18 23:38
sorry i dont know anything about the lesser CIS teams, i just remember how good he was in gambit
2018-03-19 00:42
#120
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Switzerland S!TH 
Never was good at anytime in F3 / Gambit ect; simply performed amazing in less than 5 games in Big Events contexte, higly viewed and in pretigious sets. That's it, for a casual player and HLTV guys, he was very good the three time they watched him play. He was so bad, all along, played as an entry but iv'e never seen one this bad in a pro set; especially in CIS. Like check his stats on the site and it will convince you if i myself fail to do so. cheers
2018-03-19 00:53
Angel never leave HR Its him own org
2018-03-18 21:49
Lul. He was going to leave, and Navi almost bought him but then Zeus leave Gambit and they just go Zeus way
2018-03-18 23:41
#179
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Europe RadduZEW 
zeus i think wants to come back to na'vi and come without money i think?
2018-03-19 21:04
m8, what are you talking about? Flamie is sick, he's the second best player in Na'Vi right now, why they should replace him? Flamie is much better than Waylander and chopper, he's better than Mir and he's still young and perspective
2018-03-18 21:53
can you read. if flamie under performs i would replace him, he is supposed to be the 2nd star but he is too inconsistent
2018-03-19 00:44
Waylander?????
2018-03-18 23:24
thank
2018-03-19 00:46
WTF. Bro this is the best lineup ı ever seen. Angel is the best IGL in the world.
2018-03-19 07:50
#178
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Europe RadduZEW 
loooooll waylander/chooper really? try more bro
2018-03-19 21:02
maybe a Moldovan player?
2018-03-19 21:17
What about Boombl4?
2018-03-20 10:33
bondik?
2018-03-22 02:04
I doubt mir would change his team,he has been with vega ever since and vega is one of the few teams that didnt change roster for a long time
2018-03-18 23:25
and taz left VP, just because they are together a long time doesn't mean they will never change
2018-03-19 00:46
He left based on their results, vega is pretty good atm
2018-03-19 07:02
but they will never win anything
2018-03-19 14:56
doesnt matter, its safe to assume that they are able to preform this way due to chemistry and well coordinated strats, so VP is completly different as they were supperior in skill to many teams for a long time and simply fell off down the road leading to discontent team mates
2018-03-22 02:06
money talks homie. I guarantee anyone on Vega would join Navi in a heartbeat if they got the chance. Navi's salaries are probably two or three times that of Vega's. Not to mention you would be playing on a much better team that will give you opportunities to play at international lans. They can still be friends even if they leave too. If they hold a grudge over the player for joining Navi to better his carrer, then they're pretty shit friends tbh
2018-03-20 08:23
Wasnt talking about the friendships, I just pointed out that vega has the same roster for such a long time and mir has like 30 steam friends and Im not sure whether navi players are included in it
2018-03-20 09:31
I get that Vega has had the same roster for a long time, but I'm saying, I don't think any CIS player, including mir, would turn the down the chance to play for Navi. If he stays with Vega, he is only going to throw his career away like twist is doing in Godsent. The only time you see Vega all year is the major and random Chinese tournaments.
2018-03-20 10:30
Cant argue with that
2018-03-20 11:25
sk going to imt sk looking for new faze s1mple h1ko shox sm1thzz taco
2018-03-18 21:41
#57
s1mple | 
Israel beMer 
Taco is trash and s1mple doesn't go well with him and h1ko is in NA and i dont know if he would leave
2018-03-18 22:40
#68
s1mple | 
United States yeezy96 
Taco, s1mple and NiKo are very good friends, they just like to rant on twitter but then when they are in LAN they party with each other.
2018-03-18 23:21
yes and taco is solid top 200 player.
2018-03-18 23:24
#109
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Europe rEdYy 
+1 haahahahaa
2018-03-19 00:04
why would he leave?
2018-03-18 21:42
#8
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Europe billthebot 
cuz he is the best player in the world and wants to win tournaments? but its kinda hard with guys like flamie edward and zeus who even destroyed electronic by forcing him to play a more supportive role i saw electronic playing at wesg and he was dominating he played like back in the days when he was on flipside
2018-03-18 21:44
Well I don't think a non-russian/similar comfortable language for s1mple will fit him..
2018-03-18 21:48
#23
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Europe billthebot 
i acutall think he would play way better in a team with angel adren hobbit and mou if adren finds his form back they actually would have 3 guys who can take over games
2018-03-18 21:50
maybe...
2018-03-18 21:51
#29
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Europe billthebot 
i cant see that in navi with electronic playing a supportive role in navi and flamie is really overrated + you have those two bots with edward and zeus
2018-03-18 21:51
cs scene atm is so inconsistent, that you can't judge any player really...one day c9 wins a major, the other day they exit at group stages, one day sk wins, the other day they exit at group stages, similar for faze and the others, faze is usually pretty consistent towards the semi/finals but still loses usually, mouse is kinda on the same train, they became really good in the past few months, and still, there is no team that is actually consistent enough.
2018-03-18 21:55
#34
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Europe billthebot 
but navi overall has been playing shit for over a year now its just s1mple who is playing on his "normal" level
2018-03-18 21:56
Yet, I don't think s1mple is a easy teammate to get along with that can fit any team with no problems.
2018-03-18 22:17
#48
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Europe billthebot 
he is just not a team player thats why he will never join faze the first guy who comes to my mind who would join faze would be ropz
2018-03-18 22:18
I really don't think there's a reason to change faze, They could always be better, but changing players is not always the best solution, even if the player joining is a "better player" looking at stats.
2018-03-18 23:00
#160
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Sweden DeIpan 
new IGL , everything except karrigan is good and ye navi is playing trash last year coz of s1mple maybe? -Delusional FUNBOY : but he is topfragging most of the time !! -BRUH
2018-03-19 10:17
#134
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Kazakhstan Aiomie 
This would be interesting to see
2018-03-19 07:46
When he played in Liquid he was speaking russian with their teammates or what??
2018-03-19 22:12
Well pretty sure he was speaking english..but he's english is not that good, so its probably not as good as a russian speaking team.
2018-03-19 23:08
He is capable of playing in an english speaking team, that's all I meant
2018-03-20 07:04
I'll call meh for that, but w/e.
2018-03-23 06:44
there is no team for s1mple rn unfortunetly
2018-03-18 21:42
#16
s1mple | 
Poland g00dguy 
Tru my polish bro
2018-03-18 21:46
VP? He'll not move there. he wants to win some trophies i think the most possible options is Mouz or Faze (but probably he just baiting us)
2018-03-18 21:46
vp has problem to buy michu, what are you talking LUL
2018-03-18 21:45
they have much more money, problem is that they dont want to spend it
2018-03-18 21:47
#21
s1mple | 
Poland g00dguy 
Because kinguin want a lot of money because michu is only polish talent who can play with tier1 team
2018-03-18 21:48
#140
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Europe billthebot 
he is probably one if the most overrated players ever hes not even close to be a tier 1 player lul
2018-03-19 08:34
snatchie and furlan for pasha and taz?
2018-03-19 08:35
#41
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
they didnt want to buy him cause he was overpriced, VP has enough money they are backed by a billionaire Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-18 22:02
#13
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia chaooos 
+1 totally agree
2018-03-18 21:45
#14
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Germany Tunio 
faze?
2018-03-18 21:46
#22
s1mple | 
Poland g00dguy 
S1mple wants to be an AWPer Faze have Guardian
2018-03-18 21:49
#153
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Europe ImAmnesiac 
Guardian will soon retire no?
2018-03-19 08:59
I don't think he will leave.
2018-03-18 21:47
#25
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Finland EdiEz 
s1mple to mouz and sunny to ENCE hmm...
2018-03-18 21:49
#38
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Finland Vkims 
Flag checked, keep dreaming finska boy
2018-03-18 21:59
#78
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CIS mirio 
u r finska boy too? why dont u dream for ence?
2018-03-18 23:34
#83
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Finland Vkims 
I dont want to get dissapointed
2018-03-18 23:37
#86
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CIS mirio 
dream is nice. Dream is for men my friend.
2018-03-18 23:40
Reports that Rain might leave faze and join with scream fox and some other players for sk new international team S1mple might joins FaZe???????????? Who can replace a player like rain ?????
2018-03-18 21:50
#37
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Finland Vkims 
S1mple?
2018-03-18 21:58
Lul 200 iq rekt
2018-03-18 23:04
hahahahah baited
2018-03-18 23:27
#152
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
0/8
2018-03-19 08:50
U got baited
2018-03-19 10:14
#28
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Czech Republic ModusOperandi 
that 1 million buyout got my knees weak haahaha :´D but agree on that trolling, he probably not leaving YET
2018-03-18 21:51
hi prokda
2018-03-20 09:33
I am not prodka chuvak, neponimaju cto ty pizdis :D
2018-03-20 14:17
#30
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Czech Republic Kuba! 
+1
2018-03-18 21:53
#33
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Finland Vkims 
Niko cost 500k so no way s1mple costs 1million
2018-03-18 21:56
#39
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
Niko transfer was 1 year ago and s1mple is better than him Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-18 22:01
#40
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Finland Vkims 
2x better? I dont think so
2018-03-18 22:01
#44
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
2x the amount of $ =/= 2 times better for example: Ange1's buyout was(is) more than Electronic's buyout Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-18 22:05
+1
2018-03-18 23:19
#151
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
But won't be 1 million. And Mouz NiKo was insanely good so idk it will 1 million. Maybe 300K
2018-03-19 08:49
ist player
2018-03-18 21:57
#36
f0rest | 
United Kingdom akne 
VP don't have to pay a penny for him
2018-03-18 21:57
#42
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Btw he has written "chapter" because he's been on vacation and got over his depression so he can start climbing to the top again.
2018-03-18 22:03
If anything happens it will be -zeus -edward, i dont think s1mple will leave Navi since he said in an interview that he wants to live close to his family
2018-03-18 22:03
#45
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
that was a long time ago, he grew up. But i don't think he gonna leave.
2018-03-18 22:09
simple is former cheater, nowadays baiter and toxic shit, no team wants him unless they are crazy
2018-03-18 22:15
#49
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
"fan of flusha" the irony :D
2018-03-18 22:26
flusha was never caught cheating, therefore you can't say that he is a cheater, on the contrary to s1mple ;)
2018-03-18 22:30
#59
s1mple | 
Israel beMer 
LOL if you think that flusha didn't cheat in the past because he wasn't caught you are dumb stop giving double standards to the players you like
2018-03-18 22:47
he didn't, he is just a god
2018-03-19 05:44
Stop embarrasing yourself
2018-03-19 07:02
not even close to that
2018-03-19 14:43
Flusha is a well-known cheater back in 1.6, it's not about global offensive exclusively.
2018-03-19 22:16
was he banned?
2018-03-19 22:48
Well no/ dont know, u got me there
2018-03-19 22:53
i thought so :)
2018-03-19 23:01
#55
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Bulgaria v35 
eksde nice try flusha
2018-03-18 22:38
flusha was never caught cheating, therefore you can't say that he is a cheater, on the contrary to s1mple ;)
2018-03-18 22:45
#64
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Bulgaria v35 
saying the same thing over and over again like a parrot..
2018-03-18 23:14
and you still didnt understand huh
2018-03-19 14:43
#51
nitr0 | 
Canada Surzz 
he isn't going to leave. what's going to happen is NAVI will make a roster change involving zeus or edward. mouz is a top 5 team, SK and VP both speak different languages, and im sure they wouldn't want to switch to english. plus, s1mple is contracted, so unless a better org buys him out, he's stuck there.
2018-03-18 22:33
s1mpel lives NaVi and goes to live in the wood
2018-03-18 22:40
#60
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Brazil ItsAvenn 
i dont like CIS but... s1mple its a GOD! and he dont speak very well english.. maybe. because he is from ukraine so... HAHA i like NaVi.. but Zeus its horrible.. if u want see Navi Era u need to kick Zeus and maybe Edward idk but yha zeus is sucks .. zeus to coach its good idea
2018-03-18 22:51
He already played in Liquid 2 years ago or so his english is not the best but it should be enough to understand comms ingame
2018-03-19 08:00
#181
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Brazil ItsAvenn 
Ohoo yha u right! In 2016 .. he lose vs SK in Cologne id
2018-03-19 22:05
Hope he stays with navi, I dont think he will switch any time soon
2018-03-18 23:08
#70
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Kazakhstan dc7 
hellraisers its so obv.. back with ANGE1 and bondik who know tactics and how to play cs double awp setups with woxic
2018-03-18 23:24
#166
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Greece Poor_Noob 
And kick who
2018-03-19 14:50
simple the best player of the world? omegalul
2018-03-18 23:27
#76
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
tell me who is better atm? Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-18 23:28
idk, no one is playing very well atm bro
2018-03-18 23:30
#80
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
s1mple is lol Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-18 23:36
he isnt have a good night -xavanz (this is boring)
2018-03-19 00:03
#112
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
hltv.org/stats/players/events/7998/s1mpl.. he is playing really well Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-19 00:06
i dont think so have a good night -xavanz
2018-03-19 01:40
#125
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
stats dont lie Have a nice day and good night too! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-19 02:36
#82
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
1. Krimz 2. NiKo 3. s1mple 4. NAF 5. Coldzera IMO for 2018 I don't rank player top 1 cause they had one insane event (star ladder) in 3 1/2 months, Krimz has the best form in 2018 without a doubt, similar stats and titles > stats and nothing.
2018-03-18 23:36
#87
s1mple | 
Ukraine j[S] 
NiKo over s1mple in 2k18 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-03-18 23:40
#88
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
NiKo carrying his team successfully to all finals of tier 1 events, s1mple can't even qualify for events.
2018-03-18 23:41
#92
s1mple | 
Ukraine j[S] 
You must be braindead s1mple won very last 2017 tournament, carried Na`Vi into semis in major, and carried them again into finals of Starladder beating Choko in semifinal
2018-03-18 23:43
#96
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
He also played in the major so 3 events in around 5 months, Krimz won 2 titles this month..... if you replace S1mple to Fnatic they will drop to tier 2-3, if you replace s1mple in Na'vi with Krimz they will be top 5 within a month.
2018-03-18 23:48
#99
s1mple | 
Ukraine j[S] 
You are truly mentaly handicapped. We were talking about you placing Niko over Simple, which actually shows you have below average IQ or baiting
2018-03-18 23:51
#105
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
OMG no a brain dead simple fanboy is calling me mentally handicapped cause im not putting s1mples cock in my mouth like he does. Honestly take his dick out of your mouth, you sound like a fgt. You gonna bend over for him too? you delusional fuck. Na'vi before simple consistent top 5 team same players (Zeus, Flamie & Edward) even were top 1, Na'vi with simple = a piece of shit team. Good luck with that retard fanboy.
2018-03-19 00:00
#106
s1mple | 
Ukraine j[S] 
get lost, garbage
2018-03-19 00:00
#115
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CIS mirio 
He is indeed garbage my friend. So delusional. Thinking KrimZ and Niko > S1mple? LUL.
2018-03-19 00:17
#155
s1mple | 
Ukraine j[S] 
agreed
2018-03-19 09:48
#93
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CIS mirio 
have u seen faze my friend? niko carries faze entirely? I dont think so.
2018-03-18 23:42
#102
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
Kind of hard to carry a team with the level of players FaZe has but yeah he has some performances where he hard carried not that long ago he broke the record for most frags in a regulation game. Individually they are pretty same level imo but NiKo is 10x better in a team so I will put NiKo above him as long as FaZe has good results and NiKo continues his form.
2018-03-18 23:55
#104
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CIS mirio 
s1mple has way more impact in the game than Niko. Put s1mple in FaZe he will 100% overperform the number niko puts up now. FaZe will probably win almost all tourneys, and not choking.
2018-03-18 23:58
#107
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
Put s1mple in FaZe and watch them go from winning titles and making finals to not even qualifying events just like Na'vi did you stupid fuck, ppl said the same shit about Na'vi such an amazing team... all they need is s1mple, wait for s1mple to leave Liquid and Join Na'vi etc and now look at them hahahaha, Look at Liquid sitting top 5 without Chernobyl boy fuck off.
2018-03-19 00:02
#110
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CIS mirio 
wow u r so mad now. what do u mean not winning tournaments my friend? NaVi lost its form in 2016 to 2017 because of Coaching rule. Zeus is back and Navi already making playoffs. S1mple in FaZe would work because of Karrigan. Karrigan would use S1mple way better than Navi in 2016 because they didn't have a real IGL. Why so triggered my friend?
2018-03-19 00:05
#113
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
M8 do yourself a favour and make a timeline because you are literally delusional, why do you even talk about CS Go when you are this clueless? Did you start watching CS Go from Starladder 2018 onward? Are you a new fag? Obviously I get mad when you have no argument and are spewing garbage in each comment.
2018-03-19 00:08
#114
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CIS mirio 
???? you sound like a guy who doesn't even play csgo my friend. Coaching rule ruins Navi not the other way around. Have you never seen FaZe? You think S1mple joining FaZe would make Olof, Rain, Guardian, and Karrigan underperform? You are very delusional. Such a waste making good arguements when you don't even want to believe in facts. S1mple literally 10 times better than NiKo. His stats show he has way more impact than both Niko and Coldzera. Also, he can clutch better than Niko. Well, if you are baiting, ok, but if not, u should seriously go back to minecraft my friend.
2018-03-19 00:11
#210
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
He will perform, but the team will not. s1mple is better at fragging, which isn't what you need in a team, if he would join FaZe, no matter who he replaces, everybody would just start going down and FaZe would be complete garbage. It isn't even NiKo who causes the choking. s1mple isn't 10x better than anyone, you're sucking his dick so hard while hating on NiKo and FaZe, you probably even started watching CS in 2018, why would you even talk? If s1mple was a god, he would make any team that he plays for turn into a good team, but nothing of that happened, NiKo made FaZe go from around top7 to being in the top3, sometimes #2, sometimes #1. What happened with Na'Vi? Don't say the coaching rule fucked them, a player as "good" would make that team still be good. s1mple needs every player to support him and needs all the free space to frag, NiKo doesn't.
2018-03-20 14:32
#212
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CIS mirio 
you are a dumbass if you think i start watching cs in 2018. Also, if you are thinking like that (S1mple performs over niko and the rest of FaZe clan if he's in FaZe clan makes FaZe shittier) then you are clearly trash at csgo. S1mple plays many roles in NaVi when Zeus joins. He goes and switches in between all roles from supporting to star role into entry fragging by Zeus's order (not in that order, he does everything in NaVi). Look at NaVi vs FaZe clan match in starladder, why did everyone perform? because Zeus set up the team and give everyone a role. The reasons NaVi lost their form in 2016-2017 are because of no IGL in the team and the coaching rule. If you don't understand the coaching rule, the rule before it was changed was coaches could speak freely even without pauses when the matches were playing. That was why they kicked Zeus and got S1mple. Starix (The coach) became the IGL role because he could speak to NaVi at any time he wanted to, not only when you could pause. Hey, since I am only watching in 2018, why do I understand CS more than you? Oh wait, I'm not and I am also not a noob like you. Why did Fnatic kick Pronax to get Dennis? Because of the coaching rule. How did Fnatic go from dominating to getting destroyed by Liquid in the major? Coaching rule again, Dennis is a bad IGL for Fnatic. Even he knows and he tweeted about it. Please don't say random shit without anything to back up like s1mple hunting frags, and then top 1 this top 2 that without anything to back it up. Watch NaVi demos and FaZe demos then actually learn something. Most of the FaZe set ups are from Karrigan. The guy is god at setting up on ct side. T side, he is also amazing but he chokes hard in the finals by over complicating his own strats. Example, watch eleague major's final. The easiest one for a silver like you to understand.
2018-03-20 17:10
#214
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
What does my opinion have to do with my skill in game? Ofc, s1mple performs better, but put in a team, it wouldn't work. I know what the coaching rule is, but a good player would still make that team at least tier2 and wouldn't bring everyone down so much. Also, fnatic didn't kit pronax for dennis because of the coaching rule. Here, they have Zeus, why are they still not playing good? Tell me mate, they have s1mple, they have flamie, they have even electonic, Zeus and Edward. Why did Edward start becoming worse when s1mple joined? Answer these questions. "Most of FaZe set ups are by karrigan", well of course, he is the IGL, s1mple doesn't do everything in Na'VI, he frags and others are just players that don't have any freedom and do the dirty work, s1mple is an entry and an AWPer. Did I say s1mple is hunting frags, you idiot? I just said, s1mple isn't 10x better than everyone, if he was good he would make any team he plays for turn into a good team. How do you know I'm silver? Because I have a different opinion than you dumb fuck? And I also think the coaching rule happened before ESL One NY 2016, where Na'Vi won, but I am not sure if it was applied or not.
2018-03-20 19:05
#215
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CIS mirio 
??? Are you an idiot? Put 5 extreme fraggers like Niko and S1mple in the same team. You think they will win everything? It will only work for a few tournaments. They might win 1 or 2 tournaments. Then they will get counter strat, and get exploits from their mistakes. Look at Fnatic, kicked Dennis for Golden. What happened? Won 2 tournaments just recently with a good IGL. Navi with no real IGL, and a coach that couldn't put much infos into the team. What happened? Navi was shit. Look at NaVi now, Zeus was just back. They already made tons of achievements with s1mple. Why did it work? Because Zeus fixed the team's set up on ct side. Also put some more strats on the T side. NaVi does better teamwork than before. Not because of S1mple that the team was shit. Watch NaVi demos, you can still see the mistakes they did in the past. Flamie ran into 1 site alone and dry peeked without flashes, then died without someone to trade frags with. Seized couldn't hit his shots when necessary. Guardian without motivation and practice, so he couldn't reach his form like he does now in FaZe. That were not the only mistakes. NaVi had way more mistakes than that in 2016 and 2017. They still have some mistakes like that now because of habits. Zeus is working hard on fixing them. How do I know this? I watch Zeus's vlogs and Navi channel's vlogs on Youtube to see what is happening with NaVi. Zeus said that they still have these problems, NOT me. This is fact. Not OPINION. S1mple was the only one who kept grinding. Look at his hrs in the game, 12k+ hrs from 7k hrs in 2016. Look at Flamie, still at 7k hrs since 2016. He plays way less than before. The problem is CLEAR to be an IGL and motivation problems. Put S1mple in FaZe, ofc FaZe will work if they keep Karrigan. Karrigan is a genius in setting up his teammates. You're a silver or a noob because you are a dumb fuck. My shit is not an opinion like yours. It's facts from Demos. I watch demos, I watch the games. Not spouting some nonsense about opinions on why it wouldn't work because I actually try and learn the fucking game you prick.
2018-03-20 19:25
#216
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
There is no need to try and prove me your "facts", s1mple is a god, definitely the best atm, but saying he is literally 10x better than the second best is retarded. And you are stupid as fuck, what I am trying to say is that s1mple isn't as good in a team, and you're here bringing up shit about IGLs, how the coaching rule fucked Na'Vi and shit, when I am talking about s1mple in a team. I wonder why GuardiaN got unmotivated when s1mple joined, yeah yeah. FaZe would work with karrigan and s1mple in it, but who do you really replace? Replace karrigan? Impossible. Replace rain? rain is Entry, same role as s1mple, but why would they replace him, s1mple would need all the space and then NiKo wouldn't have any space. Replace olof? He is a lurker, same goes with the space "thingy" Replace GuardiaN? This one can actually work out, but only when GuardiaN retires. Replace NiKo? Wouldn't work cause s1mple is Entry and AWP and NiKo doesn't play any of that. We are talking about players. not about the teams, s1mple can work in many teams, but will bring others down sometimes in terms of performance if the IGL "oversets" him up (new word sry), if not, then it can work, but s1mple actually has a chance to join FaZe when GuardiaN retires. Speaking about FaZe, karrigan needs to get rid of his choking in big matches.
2018-03-20 19:53
#217
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CIS mirio 
LOL s1mple in a team = bad team? Delusional fuck. Stop reading at right there. You showed me almost no point in arguing with a delusional fuck like you. If you can't fucking read, go back and read retard. Don't try to do damage control when you realized you were wrong, dumbfuck. What you said basically calling s1mple destroying his teams = S1mple is not a team player = bad teams. What a delusional fuck. S1mple is a team player or not always depending on the team leader. That is why S1mple would work in FaZe with Karrigan, you delusional small brain little fuck. If you reply with the same point like that again, without a legit reason but your "opinion", you are better to just stfu and beat it. Stop wasting our time with brainless replies about your opinions. Fact is that S1mple is a team player who can do everything for his team. The guy has way more impact than NiKo and Coldzera. The guy had the highest opening frags and clutches vs both Niko and Coldzera before or after IEM Katowice with less map played than both (Navi didn't play in IEM, so S1mple couldn't show even more than that. He is way more effective than both Cold, and Niko when they are all playing in same tournaments). This alone proves that S1mple is a teamplayer, and can adapt to any team or situations that are required of him. All you do is saying s1mple is shit within his team when you have shits as your opinions to back it up. Who gives a fuck about your opinions? People only care about facts and what they can see. Now fuck off back to your third world country.
2018-03-20 20:23
#218
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
Where did I say that every team s1mple is in is a bad team? You should learn how to read, and you are the delusional one here, I am a fan of s1mple too. s1mple is a team player in terms of team play usually, but he needs way too much space to be able to frag so much. You are a retard, the only thing you do is insult and say little shit, is your opinion more valuable because I am from a third world country? Lmao, gtfo. There is a difference between a team player and good player, you stupid fuck, having better stats makes him a better team player? NiKo and coldzera aren't even that much of aggressive players compared to s1mple, clutches maybe yeah, but it is 1 fucking tournament, and not to mention most of his stats are just fucking grinding against some tier5 teams. You sound like a mad 10 year old, please. Learn how to read, I said that s1mple in a team needs so much space to perform that even other players in the team start underperforming massively, and tell me, how is that a team player, a team player would sacrifice himself sometimes for his team, even as a star player. You are a fanboy that started watching CS around 5 months ago probably with all this shit you're saying, go back to sucking off s1mple's nuts and hating others. Look at your fucking threads, you think you have anyone thinking that you are above the mental age of 12? Haha, your opinion is nothing but a normal opinion of a worthless human being that makes stupid shitposts on a website and brags about how he watches demos blabla. Everything you said doesn't include any facts whatsoever and is just your biased opinion towards s1mple. You are a worthless user on this website, your posts are shit, your opinion is shit and biased, your ego is huge and you probably are some Master-Guardian playing MM and watching demos thinking he knows some CS when everything says is just basic shit, "karrigan is the one who does the set-ups on CT Side", then who does, he is the IGL.
2018-03-20 20:34
#220
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CIS mirio 
what a waste of fucking time talking to a braindead idiot. I am rank A in esea. I dont even play MM. Bye you fucking retard. If I keep replying to your opinions, I will start to lose brain cells.
2018-03-20 20:36
#221
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
Rank A on ESEA? Proof please, mr. 2018.01.16? Do you use this behavior in your games in ESEA too? But remember, as the rule states: NA is always below in terms of this, so yeah, I doubt you are the same skill level as some Russian LEM. EDIT: it seems like I won the argument, I've gotten you to the point where you don't have any arguments so you just use insults instead.Thanks for the conversation, now I am glad you can make other people think you're someone who is the mental age of 12.
2018-03-20 20:39
#222
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CIS mirio 
LUL NA below of this? Look at top 5 idiot. 3 teams are from NA. You don't even have a fucking scene. Get the fuck outta here braindead. Stop baiting nonsense.
2018-03-20 20:40
#223
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
3 NA teams? SK is fully Brazilian, living in NA doesn't make them a NA team. And Liquid with 2 Brazilians, and C9 with 2 Asians, 1 Turk and 1 of Polish descent. Nice try. The only reason C9 is even in the top5 is because of their fluke major, if they were a tier1 team, they wouldn't get beaten up on LAN almost every time. Macedonia is in Europe, Macedonia is in the Balkan, who else is in the Balkan? Bosnia, Serbia, Bulgaria etc. Who is from one of those countries? NiKo, who is better than any NA player. At least I can have a normal conversation and at least I am not someone with the mental age of 12!
2018-03-20 20:44
#224
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CIS mirio 
Sk plays in NA makes them an NA team. If they fucking play in Br, they would be a team from Br Scene. They don't dumbass. They play in NA, they play in rank S. They play in NA Fpl. They are staying in USA and playing with NA teams. That is from my fucking scene. Your country doesn't even have a fucking scene or even a tier 4 team. Get the fuck outta here third worlder with no scene.
2018-03-20 20:46
#226
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
Hahaha, the players are Brazilian, which is what matters, not where they live, they play in rank S and NA FPL for fun, do you think they practice there? Haha, you are retarded. They were born in BR, they started playing in BR, they are only living in NA because of the org, dumb fuck.
2018-03-20 20:53
#227
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CIS mirio 
braindead, if they could practice in br, they would stay in br and play. Why wasted the money to buy their house in USA and play and live in USA? Because BR scene is shit. Now they are playing in NA against NA players, because NA scene is way better than this BR scene.
2018-03-20 21:12
#228
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
First, learn how to speak English normally please. Still, that doesn't make them a NA team, it's just the place they live because the org decided to do that. The players are from BR, it is a Brazilian team.
2018-03-20 21:45
#229
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CIS mirio 
LUL telling an english speaker to speak english normally. Firstly, improve your fucking country. I know you are poor and stupid. Don't have to pretend to be a wise ass. Secondly, BR doesn't have a scene. That is why SK is playing in NA most of the time because NA scene is way better than BR scene.
2018-03-20 22:07
#231
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
Well, "Why wasted the money to buy their house in USA and play and live in USA?", hmmm, I wonder what are the mistakes...LMAO What does my country have to do with this? Are you like 15? HAHAHA you are so egoistic. Who cares if BR doesn't have a scene? SK are still a Brazilian team. You are a stupid child, there is no way you are 19, I doubt you are even 15. Even if you are 19, your mental age is like 10. NA Scene is back to shit, C9 with the fluke major and only good NA team is Liquid.
2018-03-20 22:12
#234
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CIS mirio 
LUL "egoistic" LUL nt. Your english is trash. Stop trying to be a smartass on the internet.
2018-03-20 23:49
#235
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
But I am not the one who is supposed to speak it perfectly, it isn't my native language, although it is yours. Well, ok, I made a mistake, it is egotist, and what?
2018-03-21 00:11
#236
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
At least I am not an immature cunt who says "LUL", "nt" and etc...
2018-03-21 00:14
#238
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CIS mirio 
LUL, nt = immature? How dense can you be? Wasting time.
2018-03-21 00:45
#241
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
Well it is immature when you repeat literally every sentence, you stupid 12 year old. Not only I am wasting my time arguing with you aka stupid retard, but please at least stop wasting our oxygen.
2018-03-21 00:59
#243
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CIS mirio 
LUL repeating a laughing expression and a sarcastic nt joke = 12 years old kid? You need to relearn your life lessons, idiot.
2018-03-21 01:06
#244
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
Well it does sound imatture man. Reminds me of twitc h a t . I dont neeed to lelearn my life lessons but it does sound immature as fuck so please stop crying.
2018-03-21 01:08
#245
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CIS mirio 
What are you even typing? Learn how to type properly dumbfuck.
2018-03-21 01:24
#145
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Yes he does carries Faze to finals start watching games except the finals you'll notice.
2018-03-19 08:40
#89
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CIS mirio 
mvp without winning is impressive my friend. it is not nothing.
2018-03-18 23:41
#94
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
Yes it is thats why I refer to it as an INSANE event for him because even he's never played that good in his entire career, that was literally his best LAN performance of his entire career and one of the best performances ever. You guys are acting like he is consistently playing at that level. Krimz in terms of form he's at god level the entire year, every event he played and on top of that Fnatic is winning titles for me there is no comparison. It's crazy to think before S1mple joined Na'vi was consistently top 5 team and even at one point sitting in the #1 spot (same players flamie, zeus, edward) now they aren't even a tier 1 team.
2018-03-18 23:44
#95
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CIS mirio 
have u seen his event history my friend? he has always been that impressive.
2018-03-18 23:45
#100
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
Actually yeah I'm looking at his stats right now, and no he's never in his career been at the level he was in starladder which is the reason he won MVP while losing, this type of performance is rare af and he was rewarded for it. There isn't another event in his career that comes even remotely close to his performance at starladder, the amount of 1vX situations he won, the amount of opening picks he got, just insane and I doubt he'll ever play at that level again in his career, was a very rare performance and no he isn't top 1 maybe 2nd or 3rd depending if you want to put NiKo there or not cause NiKo also has very amazing stats and consistently making it to the finals of every tier 1 LAN they are playing.
2018-03-18 23:51
#103
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CIS mirio 
not rare for s1mple my friend. not rare. S1mple no1.
2018-03-18 23:57
#149
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Current S1mple is top1 I agree. But it's true that he never played like this in his entire career. Everyone said NiKo was better than s1mple when NiKo was in mouz cuz he hard carried a shit team. The same is now with S1mple. Now NiKo ain't as flashy because he doesn't have to do much. I think if S1mple goes to a very good team. Especially a super team. It'll be the same. Yea. S1mple has to do more work and rn is better. But NiKo is no slouch. I think 1. S1mple 2. NiKo 3. Krimz
2018-03-19 08:45
s1mple was always / is way better than niko in terms of impacting.
2018-03-19 08:44
#150
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Start from 2015 plis
2018-03-19 08:46
s1mple was at major play offs already in 2014
2018-03-19 10:09
#158
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Yea. But wasn't at this level. He has hit his peak now. That's why he's better. But not "way" better than NiKo. Mouz NiKo was better than s1mple.
2018-03-19 10:11
hahahaha wtf are you talking about? while niko was in mouz s1mple carried na to a major semifinal, a major final, won esl new york etc. niko on the other hand had no success outside of tier shit tournaments (talking about his time in mouz obviously). how can you be so deluded? niko was never better than s1mple.
2018-03-19 20:51
#173
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Carried ? Are you braindead? Did you even watch CS. Or you don't know what carry means?
2018-03-19 20:51
lol its impossible to hardcarry every game on the level s1mple played. but him and hiko definitely had the most impact in the team by far. what did niko achieve in mouz that makes you think he was a better player than s1mple in liquid?
2018-03-19 20:55
#175
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
I don't really need achievements to check what a player packs in himself. S1mple had a pretty good team. Decent IGL
2018-03-19 20:56
)))))) deluded idjot
2018-03-19 20:59
#211
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
NiKo had your good German players lmfao, denis and spiidi, s1mple had basically a NA superteam and he had all the freedom, NiKO needed to fucking AWP in mouz, to IGL in mouz and shit/
2018-03-20 14:35
Well my friend, you seem to forget that Niko plays for Faze and s1mple for shitlownavi. Imangine, my friend: - karrigan + s1mple Have a nice day!
2018-03-20 00:58
#195
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
well my friend you seem to forget Na'vi was consistent top 5 before s1mple joined similar to FaZe in that regard, now they are tier 2 can't qualify for anything soon will be in MDL with Gambit and VP, very lucky they didn't get get regulated in January but it will happen eventually. Strong team over strong player, Na'vi gave up on that are happy to get carried by s1mple good for them, best choice kick him and put in the actual time and effort to become a good team.
2018-03-20 01:23
#79
s1mple | 
Ukraine j[S] 
Option #1: Brazilians from SK move to MiBr SK opens int team: pronax s1mple shox + ? + ? Option #2: Whole hltv gets baited by single word in his twitter
2018-03-18 23:35
sounds a bit like a second faze. would be interesting though.
2018-03-19 08:45
Current Brazilian SK lineup will change orgs and SK will pick up or potentially form a new roster. However, I doubt s1mple will change teams unless SK decides to form a new Faze-like superteam. Na'Vi is CiS region's only hope and s1mple has no other safe options (people say Zeus suck but s1mple definitely had worse teammates in both HR and fl1pside *cough* markeloff *cough*). So in the end, S1mple gotta suck it up and play. They may become good again if Zeus gives a fuck.
2018-03-18 23:42
#219
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
I think the thing with Na'Vi is that s1mple is having all the space for him to make plays which brings others down.
2018-03-20 20:35
Zeus had 38-62 KDA in the StarSeries finals and s1mple had 90-53. I think it's unbelivably unfair to say that he brings others down.
2018-03-20 22:21
#233
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
Well, Zeus played terribly, but look at other players, they should give s1mple less space so they can let others have more space, then they can maybe start being a tier1 team.
2018-03-20 22:29
I don't understand what you mean with "space"? I am not sarcastic by the way, I geniunely don't understand.
2018-03-21 13:56
#249
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
I don't really think "space" is the correct word, but it basically means that he has most of the space on the map so he can basically frag at his fullest potential and move where he wants, basically he is set up so much that he can do that, which isn't his fault, it is Zeus' fault that he lets s1mple do all the things he wants, yeah s1mple will deliver, but the others wont because of the limited space that they have on the map.
2018-03-21 13:58
So, you are saying everyone on the Na'Vi plays as a support to let s1mple frag. Then again, this has nothing do with s1mple in my opinion. It is IGL's and coach's responsibility to manage players.
2018-03-21 14:11
#253
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
As I said, it\s Zeus' fault, read again :)
2018-03-21 14:11
Then I have proved my point, I guess. Cya.
2018-03-22 01:49
#264
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
You proved your point, I proved mine. Zeus makes a lot of mistakes, s1mple shouldn't have all the free space on the map, it doesn't matter that he is a star player.
2018-03-22 13:25
#97
kNgV- | 
Brazil hotdogs2 
optic!
2018-03-18 23:48
gambit owner mts so rich too -dosia +simpl
2018-03-18 23:48
there will be huge consolidations in the scene. the point is the multi team ownership. VP and SK are owned by the same company (ESforce). NaVi too. ZeroGravity has a new firm and bought NaVi back 4 months ago, but ZeroGravity still is partial owner of ESforce. That means: Its the same $$ behind these orgs, but since the deadline for multi ownership will end this year...well they have to decide which org and team they will support why i tell you this in s1mple thread: there wont happen big transactions between these orgs. and i think that only one of these 3 teams will survive the next months! it might be no accident that these 3 teams are the big underperformers atm... we all know that players are affected when there is something going on behind the curtains!
2018-03-19 00:01
#111
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Europe rEdYy 
new simple's hope is s1mple shox pronax mixwell cosmeeeN
2018-03-19 00:05
-pasha +s1mple
2018-03-19 00:54
#122
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Netherlands El_CaPiTaN 
Mouz is a lot richer than you think, those germans make some tier1 financial decisions
2018-03-19 00:58
#123
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
exactly, thats one of the reasons they wont buy s1mple Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-19 01:06
#133
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
LOL
2018-03-19 07:41
#143
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
xD +1
2018-03-19 08:35
How about navi buy out some player from gambit
2018-03-19 02:42
That would destroy gambit and it wouldnt necessary mean navi would get better. F.e. look at electronic, he was a god in f3 and now he is average in navi because of the role he plays
2018-03-19 07:07
But he also was playing in MDL/t2 tourneys and quals
2018-03-21 00:47
get rid of flamie, get rid of Edward, bring in hobbit and mou/adren
2018-03-19 07:36
#168
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Greece Poor_Noob 
No , get rid of Zeus instead of flamie , +ange1
2018-03-19 14:54
He is just trolling, Na`Vi was his dream home.
2018-03-19 07:50
#137
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Ukraine ph3n0m3n 
s1mple to ENCE
2018-03-19 07:53
#141
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Won't be 1 million. Around 500K at max
2018-03-19 08:35
Id pay 1m for s1mple thats why 1m in his name its his price
2018-03-21 00:47
#246
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
That's why you ain't a business man lol
2018-03-21 06:39
s1mple even said he wont leave navi. I dont blame him, i think there is a cis top 1 team looming at some point and navi would probably be the team. flamie, s1mple, electronic is fucking sick.
2018-03-19 08:36
#167
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Greece Poor_Noob 
These 3 are sick I agree , ange1 and bondik could replace Zeus and Edward ,these 2 are holding them back
2018-03-19 14:52
agreed, zeus got removed for a reason why tf they bring him back. edward is an easy replacement.
2018-03-20 08:15
VeryNiceGuy VeryGoodTalk
2018-03-19 08:45
vp? xd
2018-03-19 14:42
#165
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
It wouldn't be 1 million, it would be around the same as NiKo I think.. Many people want him to go to FaZe, but 4 star players wouldn't work, so, the only way he can potentially go to FaZe is when GuardiaN retires, but yeah, there is a chance of him going to mouz probably, s1mple needs an international team.
2018-03-19 14:43
lolwut, they got niko cheap (people didn't really know about him outside his frag highlight clips on hltv, mouz was utter trash). Niko is also not as good as s1mple, especially currently.
2018-03-19 22:57
#209
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
NiKo's buyout was around $400k+ though, how is that cheap? s1mple might or might not be better currently, cause he hasn't played a tournament in a while on LAN, but they ARE close though, Fragging-wise s1mple is better than everyone, but that doesn't make him better put as in a team so yeah.
2018-03-20 14:20
could join FaZe
2018-03-19 14:59
Anyway, SK will release their roster to mibr, so they could make a new team not speaking brazilian.
2018-03-19 15:06
nt
2018-03-19 21:00
#192
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North America Catterific 
G2
2018-03-19 23:25
#198
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Turkey ramowarr 
VeryRetardGuy
2018-03-20 08:18
#202
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United States D@rkl03d 
best of luck with your favourite player, he won't last longer
2018-03-20 09:40
1mil+ id talking about cs go away please
2018-03-20 17:12
-rain +s1mple
2018-03-20 09:41
-simple +james, james bond I mean why not
2018-03-20 09:48
#225
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Portugal samf0rd 
Quality shitpost
2018-03-20 20:48
#247
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North America allulu 
You're my fav HLTV God :)
2018-03-21 06:51
#265
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Germany VeryNiceGuy 
ty :D Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2018-03-22 20:57
#255
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Brazil EnzoAirezZ 
if S1mple enters SK, taco will go to NTC probably so... (Taco vs S1mple)
2018-03-22 01:58
-deadfox +s1mple #makehrgreatagain
2018-03-22 02:10
just -zeus -edward +ange1 +adren and ez top 1. or if ange1 won't leave hr +hobbit instead
2018-03-22 02:22
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