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BaNaNaZz | 
Europe bananablast900 
Shox actually wanted to remove apex and NBK from the team. Ok, so who would replace them? Fucking Ex6TenZ and Smithzz. Smithzz was doing absolutely terrible before his time as a coach. Maybe he could bring it back, he was good in the past. Maybe he could be the IGL? But fucking Ex6TenZ? He does shit against every single team above tier 3 and is similar to a BOT. If he has such great strats, why can't he even make it to the major qualifier? Every IGL need to frag now. Can't have useless players like Blad3, Ex6TenZ, etc. /discuss
2018-03-19 20:59
#1
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Canada Elazul 
I don't mind the ex6 switch but I'd definitely rather get someone like scream over smithzz. Of all people Smithzz? Really?
2018-03-19 21:00
shox already mentioned that he doesnt like the way scream plays, because he always does the same. He is predictable and tbh, besides his aim (when its on point, which doesnt really happen a lot anymore) scream is pure average. Not special in anything.
2018-03-19 21:04
Dont lie he never said that in fact with scream as teammate they were top2 team at point and won elegue, also both players were in top 10 players of 2016...
2018-03-19 21:26
im pretty sure ive read that on hltv ages ago, dunno
2018-03-19 21:42
That was NBK, not Shox.
2018-03-19 21:29
Yes but shox wanted to add smithzz i would be pretty much okay scream instead of smithzz that would be an interesting lineup and i'm not fan of nbk or apex so.
2018-03-19 21:42
#62
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
NBK said he doesn't like ScreaM's style not Shox
2018-03-19 21:55
fair enough :D
2018-03-19 22:22
#65
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
ScreaM is in bad form so doesn't matter anyway
2018-03-19 22:23
#27
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Indonesia lotnok 
scream is a brainless player and is too narcissistic to change his playstyle
2018-03-19 21:20
no u
2018-03-19 21:01
#3
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Yugoslavia niofalpha 
Cloud9 Fans always manage to be as stupid as the favelas.
2018-03-19 21:01
Ez report
2018-03-19 21:15
#23
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Yugoslavia niofalpha 
Won't lift you out of poverty
2018-03-19 21:18
#4
buster | 
China batil 
yes Ex6TenZ and Smithzz hahahahaha
2018-03-19 21:01
>Every IGL need to frag now >Zeus winning the major less than a year ago Pick one.
2018-03-19 21:01
Zeus won the major with the rest of Gambit going insane. They had to win against fnatic, ok I guess, Astralis, impressive, then immortals, eh. Not some insane route the the final, and it was clearly a fluke judging by their performance after. Now look at SK for example, Fallen, a fragging IGL, is where on the esports earnings top charts along with his team? prnt.sc/itgkig
2018-03-19 21:08
#13
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Bosnia and Herzegovina FaZeTier3 
>judging by their performance after. After Zeus left, yes Kinda hard to play the same when your IGL that elevated you to that point leaves... xD
2018-03-19 21:13
Um, what are you talking about? After Zeus left they made two top 4 appearances at 200+ tournaments, and placed 5-6 at another 200k tourney. The tourney before they got 2-0'd vs. FNATIC... not really great elevation lol.
2018-03-19 21:16
????????????? The only tier 1 tournament they performed at after the major was Dreamhack Malmo, and that was the tournament where a lot of teams had just switched rosters and had no practice. They managed to get out of groups at Oakland, but barely, and got destroyed in the playoffs directly after. I'm sorry but if you're actually going to argue they didn't get worse after losing Zeus you're an idiot. I doubt you'll find any actual analyst who would actually concede that point.
2018-03-19 21:22
Look at their stats before hand. It's basically the same as after the major. It was a fluke.
2018-03-19 21:23
You will never win an argument just looking at stats and nothing else. Especially not on a CS topic.
2018-03-19 21:24
Oh yeah, that silver crying on reddit about how his team suck and thats why hes Silver 1 can't be judged over all of his losses when he is 0-30 the entire game right? He is just a god who can't win against brain dead people. Yeah that makes sense.
2018-03-19 21:28
Let me put it this way. Find me any real analyst (Not some HLTV "expert") who will say that Gambit did not get worse losing Zeus. You probably won't find anyone on the scene who will say ex6 is a bad IGL either. Literally every player who has played under his calls him one of the best. But yeah, who am I to argue with an HLTV expert who lives on stats and nothing else lmao
2018-03-19 21:31
I mean, you can't even give examples why he is good. You just say he is good. Stop acting like your taking the high ground lol.
2018-03-19 21:32
Again, let me know when you find anyone on the scene or any analyst who would actually agree with your points. I'll wait.
2018-03-19 21:36
Again, keep on deflecting points that can be backed up with evidence and use your emotions to argue.
2018-03-19 21:36
That literally has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I find it funny that you're ignoring my point. Because you and I both know you won't find any real analyst that agrees with you, only HLTV experts who live by stats and nothing else. And you wonder why most pros hate the community on this site lmao
2018-03-19 21:39
You have no evidence or anything. Keep on using your emotions, pal. I know your a brick wall that can't think for himself.
2018-03-19 21:42
Ok. I'm will waiting for you to get back to me on that analyst.
2018-03-19 21:46
Ok. I'm waiting for you to use facts instead of your emotions, you brick wall.
2018-03-19 21:47
Golden is not fragging igl and they just won two big tournaments in a row.
2018-03-19 22:36
Golden can frag and has fragged before. Ex6tenZ does bad against t3 teams...
2018-03-19 22:38
You are bad baiter. He still plays most of his games like a sack of garbage, just like ex6
2018-03-19 22:39
lol, not even baiting. VS C9 he got 22 kills. hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/62858/.. This shows that he can get kills against t1 teams. He pulls his own weight. Ex6 on the other hand...
2018-03-20 02:04
#39
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Denmark d347hbr1ng3r 
then cloud9 winning a major was more than a fluke
2018-03-19 21:28
Except, C9 was placing playoffs at tournaments beforehand, and can still replicate their results like against SK, and recently almost beat SK in a bo3 again. Gambit was nothing like their major self at all.
2018-03-19 21:30
ex6 is actualy decent, and they need an igl, so i think is fine. kicking apex for smithzz is retarded
2018-03-19 21:02
Decent against tier 2 teams maybe, look at his stats though, Inconsistent all around. He loses to teams like HAVU in finals of lower tier tourneys... Not fit at all for a top tier team.
2018-03-19 21:12
#14
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Bosnia and Herzegovina FaZeTier3 
His stats aren't any worse than karrigan/Zeus/Golden
2018-03-19 21:14
And Zeus, Karrigan, and Golden play against t1 teams instead of t3 teams in stupid Loot.Bet cups.
2018-03-19 21:16
Comparing stats between t1 events and tier 3 events. LUL
2018-03-19 21:17
Idk man, the thing is theres not much good french igls, and considering the players that they have in g2, ex6 wouldn't need to frag that much if he focused on bringing good strats and not calling a force buy every single round
2018-03-19 21:17
Its not 2014 anymore though, they need a GOOD fragger to be the igl. Look at Fallen's success.
2018-03-19 21:18
Obviously an igl that frags a lot is better, but who would that be in the french scene? Im saying that if they don't have a french Fallen, going with a french karrigan is better than shox igling and probably better than nbk. Look at golden is ratings pn fnatic, he is always negative but is working for them
2018-03-19 21:24
Golden sometimes goes off on certain maps, Ex6TenZ does awful on most maps against t3 and t2 teams. Do you really think he would do better against better competition? Probably not.
2018-03-19 21:29
ex6 did pretty good on wesg. G2 also made a lot of playoffs with shox igling and lost in the quarters, now imagine if instead of shox is shit strats they had better ones, shox would also be free from the igl role so he would be able to frag more and they wouldn't force buy every round, so kenny would have awp. With that i bet they would be way more consistent and thats exactly what ex6 brings
2018-03-19 21:47
Ex6 did good against WESG against bad teams mostly. Pretty much what he's used to. Maybe they would do slightly better, but I don't think he would be enough to pull them out of the quarters curse
2018-03-19 21:49
i think they would be pretty good, but thats just gonna stay in theory as the team wont happen anyway, so no more point in arguing. Have a good day and nice nickname btw
2018-03-19 21:55
THANK YOU YOU TOO
2018-03-19 22:22
#7
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Other VladimirLucas 
french people are shit at making decisions, they think with their heart, this why french teams shuffle teams like a spotify playlist
2018-03-19 21:02
you dont know shit. ex6tenz can frag against tier1 and is easily the best igl in fracne and belgium. look at the tier 1 teams he beat with shit players in ldlc.
2018-03-19 21:02
Maybe he won some online BO1s, or teams in slumps... but nothing of important in any event on LAN. And while he is playing he gets no frags vs t3 teams sometimes...
2018-03-19 21:17
maybe its a bit selfish from shox, if he really wanted smithz for apex, but maybe apex is toxic and it is just not fitting together very well. But ex6 for nbk would be logical. Shox and NBK both have shown, that they are clearly not capable of being a decent IGL and since shox is the better player overall, he should stay and get back to his normal role. His statement overall made sense, its obv that its not about skill why G2 isnt working. It must be something internal + the players just arent fitting together ingame, it happens ...
2018-03-19 21:12
FEEL THE POWER X6, best IGL ever
2018-03-19 21:15
That's just wrong.
2018-03-19 21:18
Thorin confimred this
2018-03-19 21:18
How is Ex6 any better than FalleN?
2018-03-19 21:19
Simple, you just type GODX6 > Wallen
2018-03-19 21:24
+100000
2018-03-19 21:22
#35
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Spain Lucien 
Why no rpk instead oof smithhz
2018-03-19 21:27
-bodyy -nbk +ScreaM +KQLY EZ major win Lineup: ScreaM,Kennys,mixwell,KQLY,apex
2018-03-19 21:27
KQLY on major team XD
2018-03-19 21:31
xdddd
2018-03-19 21:52
people don't remember that, but at the very end, when shox was already the awper for g2 and smithzz was basically playing as a support rifler, he was quite decent; but the meme was already too strong that being said, im not sure a team with both ex6 and smithzz can have enough firepower to compete at the top; shox should have pushed for -bodyy +smithzz only, especially if smithzz can igl
2018-03-19 21:28
#56
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United States Top_Ostrich 
eX6 is a worse player than NBK but he is a really good IGL. The only reason LDLC did anything was because he made no namers play a system that got them wins. I'd say -bodyy +ex6. keep everyone else.
2018-03-19 21:49
I may be ok with that.
2018-03-19 21:50
#59
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United States Top_Ostrich 
or i would -smithzz +ex6 as coach and make ex6 in charge of roster so no one can pull some i ain't listening bullshit
2018-03-19 21:53
true.
2018-03-19 21:53
#66
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United States _z0ren 
It would be a good move because smithzz would rifle and prob be better than he is with a awp and the g2 was lacking proper leadership so yeah
2018-03-19 22:25
#67
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France axel_ko 
Smithzz one major Scream zero major
2018-03-19 22:31
#68
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Canada Surzz 
actually blad3 is a genius. so no, he's not useless, just not good individually as a player. great IGL though.
2018-03-19 22:34
This G2 had more than enough firepower, but sucked. So for your stars you have Shox,Kennys... ex6 best igl, smithzz solid rifler and bodyy crisp 3rd star. Easy team
2018-03-19 22:36
Ex6 is an excellent IGL, it definitely would have been an upgrade. They desperately needed one. SmithZz is a question mark. He's a really bad awper, that's for sure. But in old G2 his rifling was pretty decent. He could make for a really good support player along with Ex6. For sure these may not be the BEST options, but team chemistry is very important as well. If players don't get along, they won't play well together. People who have fun playing with each other, will usually perform much better. It might work out very well. Having the very best players isn't always the best solution, and that's something stats don't tell you.
2018-03-19 23:31
omg finally someone opening his eyes on ex6, fucking +1
2018-03-20 02:05
Guys, were smithzz and shox licking each others boypussy????
2018-03-20 02:13
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