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worst t1 teams atm
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Sweden skagge 
gimme "top" 5
2018-04-09 09:21
imo fnatic, cloud9, sk, g2
2018-04-09 09:22
#3
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Sweden skagge 
why fnatic?
2018-04-09 09:24
#4
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Sweden skagge 
and c9 is doing pretty good online
2018-04-09 09:24
losing to luminosity ok
2018-04-11 16:43
#99
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Denmark C0nd1 
& eUnited; Ghost and another t3 NA teams
2018-04-11 19:51
And faze lost to this team? in a major final?. I guess that makes faze even worse. losing to a team on LAN which loses to to t3 team online, correct?
2018-04-12 20:50
#143
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Denmark C0nd1 
on Major C9 have other roster, now C9 is a bad team, no win major with this roster. -FNS; + Best free EU player
2018-04-12 20:51
ahahah, same about FClan, - karrigan; + Best free EU player #BringSwagBackToC9
2018-04-15 23:29
every team loosing online tbh
2018-04-12 20:47
He is from poland he have low IQ and still believes VP is a good team
2018-04-09 09:26
lmao true
2018-04-09 09:30
#9
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Sweden skagge 
nah i think every1 realises how theyre preforming atm It's like i say that ur from cis and still believes qbf and navi is good
2018-04-09 09:33
navi is good you fnatic fangay, they just need to get back on track
2018-04-09 18:55
#57
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Sweden skagge 
im not a fnatic fangay lol. im a nip fangay
2018-04-10 20:46
even worst NiP Lan Pick One xD
2018-04-10 20:51
#63
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Sweden skagge 
i pick "even worst" btw, italy cs lul
2018-04-11 10:07
#134
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Romania Pooknezeu 
"even worse" man! That's the correct form, next time pay attention to your grammar.
2018-04-12 18:17
*grammarth
2018-04-17 12:01
#197
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Romania Pooknezeu 
Now that's very niche.
2018-04-17 12:06
#93
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Colombia SkeletoNMLG 
he is actually right navi is worst tier 1 team rn
2018-04-11 19:42
noo i wont believ it!!!
2018-04-12 10:25
C u @ lan
2018-04-15 23:23
Spirit at lan, nice try.
2018-04-15 23:34
Spirit is like Flipside, but with worse players
2018-04-15 23:39
Worse is an understatement
2018-04-16 08:11
Still CIS scene > Australian scene
2018-04-16 08:40
#175
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Denmark EggplantxD 
But nothing anywhere else.
2018-04-16 09:39
Renegades>Navi but sure and we were talking about spirit. #EZ4ENCE
2018-04-16 12:23
You want to see s1mple crush renegades again?
2018-04-16 21:05
If you wanna talk about scenes, where are any finnish teams in the top 20?
2018-04-16 23:14
They are coming #ez4ence
2018-04-17 00:00
If they aren't there by the end of the year then you owe me $20 Australian Dollars and if they are then I owe you $20 Australian Dollars in your currency. Deal ? ?
2018-04-17 09:58
Well they havent been on track for 2 years, how much time do they need?
2018-04-15 23:39
#92
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Colombia AlejoBuh 
but VP no longer t1 team :/ theyre asking for worst t1 teams
2018-04-11 19:42
#146
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Korea Evap0rate 
true dat lol
2018-04-13 10:04
Low skill peak
2018-04-11 10:12
#135
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United States lockerboit 
why fnatic and sk?
2018-04-12 18:19
#174
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Finland Karri 
cuz they are fucking trash XD
2018-04-16 09:34
#173
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Finland Karri 
c9 will win dh marseille calling it right now
2018-04-16 09:34
faze is worst
2018-04-09 09:23
#16
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Australia riotbz 
ya bc they the only t1 team atm lol
2018-04-09 10:05
LOL
2018-04-09 10:06
might be true
2018-04-09 10:13
#41
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah that must be why they can't win shit :)))
2018-04-09 11:28
+1
2018-04-11 19:39
+1
2018-04-12 03:05
#119
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Turkey casmere 
+1
2018-04-12 08:48
Which makes it even more stupid
2018-04-12 08:58
#125
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yep indeed.
2018-04-12 13:32
Astralis x D
2018-04-15 23:37
#171
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Denmark Xipingu 
Homesent xD
2018-04-16 08:54
Lul where did i state that faze is trash even though my team hasent won anything in a year
2018-04-16 08:59
#178
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Denmark Xipingu 
FaZe? Wut?
2018-04-16 18:50
#64
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Lithuania gime114 
+1
2018-04-11 10:08
+ mouz
2018-04-12 04:25
#5
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Turkey RAGE_M 
G2? Top 5 France may be
2018-04-09 09:25
SK, FaZe, NaVi, G2
2018-04-09 09:26
#23
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Paraguay HighAlching 
navi and g2 t1, nt
2018-04-09 10:16
SK and Faze t1, nt
2018-04-10 20:56
#62
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Paraguay HighAlching 
sk isnt t1, but if faze isnt t1 then there are no t1 teams
2018-04-10 21:41
Faze- First place- Pick one
2018-04-11 19:20
#96
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Spain JustNo 
lmao faze takes first place, look at the ranking. cry is free
2018-04-11 19:46
Lmao first in top. Tell me anything Faze won in six months ?
2018-04-11 19:48
#98
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Spain JustNo 
ok so now not winning = not good? please tell me theyre not good
2018-04-11 19:48
The best are victorious. So yes, no first place = not good
2018-04-11 19:51
thats why s1mple is shit too?
2018-04-12 18:00
I know simple is best, no need to b8 so shitty
2018-04-13 10:02
Well, you are making a point saying they are shit because they haven't won, so, how is s1mple the best if he hasn't won anything?
2018-04-13 13:16
Team is shit, not one player
2018-04-13 18:20
I like s1mple, but what you're saying doesn't make any sense, not winning sure does not make you top1 but it doesn't mean you are not good.
2018-04-13 18:45
Does i said anyone from Faze is shit ? No, i said Faze is shit. That's it
2018-04-15 23:20
Yeh.
2018-04-15 23:22
This team has best awper (In past, and one of the best now) Two of the best aimers (Niko and Rain) Best support player/second awp (IMO Olof is good for that role) and good captain (Yes, i think carry gun is good)
2018-04-15 23:25
And they still losses
2018-04-15 23:25
There are many issues, rain has been underperforming, olof isn't that good of a support and karrigan often chokes.
2018-04-15 23:45
#102
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United States ItsImpact 
ECS S4
2018-04-12 02:57
mouz? fnatic? astralis?
2018-04-12 04:43
#124
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Paraguay HighAlching 
mouz and fnatic are arguably better atm, but astralis? really? they arent even top 5 lmao
2018-04-12 13:07
then give top5
2018-04-12 17:45
#128
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Paraguay HighAlching 
faze, mouz, fnatic, liquid, navi all better than ast atm
2018-04-12 17:58
>Faze with xizt >better than astralis pick one
2018-04-12 20:19
#138
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Paraguay HighAlching 
what has astralis accomplished in the past year? oh right, absolutely nothing
2018-04-12 20:39
#191
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Ukraine beaztoff 
Na'Vi > FaZe > SK
2018-04-17 11:30
VP kappa
2018-04-09 09:38
-kappa
2018-04-12 20:42
#11
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Tunisia nivac 
NIP
2018-04-09 09:46
tier 1 ahah
2018-04-09 09:48
#14
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Sweden skagge 
why?
2018-04-09 09:54
#132
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Sweden Timmy_ 
They need to actually be a T1 team to be a bad T1 team.
2018-04-12 18:13
#13
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Venezuela Kremator 
EnvyUs (somestill classify them as T1 lul) G2 SK
2018-04-09 09:49
Nobody in their right mind thinks nV is tier 1
2018-04-12 04:08
2015 nV is tier 1
2018-04-12 04:29
#120
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Turkey casmere 
It's 2018
2018-04-12 08:49
Question wasn't precised
2018-04-12 12:58
#133
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Timmy_ 
He said "thinks" i think it is pretty clear that he means in the current.
2018-04-12 18:14
#136
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Turkey casmere 
+1
2018-04-12 18:45
FaZe, Na`Vi, SK
2018-04-09 09:59
#22
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Romania TheWizard741 
Why the fuck would anyone classify NaVi as t1?
2018-04-09 10:13
NaVi gets invites to every t1 event, they are 6th, semifinal and final at 2 last events, why not?
2018-04-09 10:23
Why the fuck would anyone classify SK as t1? AHHAHAHAHHAHA
2018-04-09 10:25
+1 agree SK tier 1 in 2018 luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul but officially is
2018-04-09 10:26
Maybe cuz Na'Vi t1 ? 5th place on top, semifinals/finals on last tournaments
2018-04-10 20:58
FaZe
2018-04-09 10:08
SK
2018-04-09 10:08
#20
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Romania TheWizard741 
Aren't t1 teams supposed to be the best ? So atm t1 teams are mouz,fnatic and maybe C9/Liquid(just maybe).I don't get why ppl still say G2,SK and Faze with xizt are t1 now. And out of mouz,fnatic,C9 and Liquid I would say C9 is the least good.
2018-04-09 10:12
imo tier 1 teams are teams which visit almost every tier 1 event, it's nearly top 8 HLTV ranking
2018-04-09 10:19
which is not very precise because of random invites of ex-star teams. e.g. nip
2018-04-09 10:57
#43
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Paraguay HighAlching 
the tier of an event is defined by the tier of the teams that are in that event, so if navi are t1 because they get invited to t1 events, which are only t1 because navi is "t1" is just an illogical loophole
2018-04-09 13:46
#25
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Andorra hltv_citizen 
FailZe Fnotic Astralis Ratsports Gay2
2018-04-09 10:22
#27
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Sweden skagge 
astr is very strong atm, mouz is playing very good as well
2018-04-09 10:24
#36
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Czech Republic thezipp3r_ 
+1
2018-04-09 10:56
#37
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Czech Republic thezipp3r_ 
-1 get a life fgt
2018-04-09 10:56
isnt astralis almost undefeated online this season? also mouz have been doing great recently. -1
2018-04-12 04:21
G2 sk mouz clown9 faze
2018-04-09 10:31
#31
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Canada zizzle21 
my tier 1 is top 9 so i would say G2, NAVI, cloud9, SK FaZe in that order
2018-04-09 10:33
#32
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China TizonaDelCid 
G2 Faze
2018-04-09 10:39
#33
Twistzz | 
Lithuania Sheikl 
1.SK 2.G2 3.VP 4. North
2018-04-09 10:42
#34
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Europe Flimano 
North tier1 O M E G A L U L
2018-04-09 10:50
#40
Twistzz | 
Lithuania Sheikl 
For some people they are tier 1. Fact that they gets invited to t1 events and do nothing makes them probably worst tier1 team ever or probably decent t2. Now they are maybe not looking like t1 xd
2018-04-09 11:26
#44
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Paraguay HighAlching 
north decent tier 2? they are tier 3 at best
2018-04-09 13:48
#45
Twistzz | 
Lithuania Sheikl 
They get into t1 events to theoretically they are t1 but for real they are just casual t2.
2018-04-09 15:40
#47
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Paraguay HighAlching 
what was the last t1 event north was in?
2018-04-09 17:22
#51
Twistzz | 
Lithuania Sheikl 
katowice. Yes they not attend every t1 tournament but they get into some.
2018-04-09 17:27
#52
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Paraguay HighAlching 
tyloo gets into some t1 events too, that doesnt make them tier 1, or even tier 2
2018-04-09 18:53
#55
Twistzz | 
Lithuania Sheikl 
Tyloo qualifies for events rarely + it's different situation with them compared to north
2018-04-09 19:05
#56
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Paraguay HighAlching 
no its not any different since they are both rubbish teams
2018-04-09 19:24
It is. Since North are invited u mong
2018-04-11 10:19
#70
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Paraguay HighAlching 
north hasnt been invited to a single t1 event since blast pro series last november you stupid idiot
2018-04-11 12:32
Because katowice was the only T1 event where you could get an invite since blast pro series you mong. Majors hold legend spots, EPL needs qualification. Summit had SK,NIP,C9 and at that time everyone thought that they are t1 and also North got their invite retard.
2018-04-11 13:31
#74
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Paraguay HighAlching 
hltv.org/events/3486/starseries-i-league.. north didnt get invited neither to this nor katowice and summit t1 event? nip t1 team? LOL keep being delusional dumb north fan and besides the ONLY reason they were invited in blast series to begin with is because they are danish. even gambot got more invites to t1 events recently than north and gambot are t3 atm
2018-04-11 16:34
Im not arguing about north being good because they are awful. Im just saying that they do get invites And look summit had sk,c9,nip who were tier 1 team at that time (nip just because not so long ago have won oakland)
2018-04-11 19:21
#88
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Paraguay HighAlching 
the guy i was originally talking to said that north is tier 1 and my whole point was that north is nowhere tier 1 so idk why im even arguing with you
2018-04-11 19:33
Because i said that they are still getting some invites for being a bad team. They are a decent tier 2 but yeah... nothing more
2018-04-11 19:37
North gets invited to events because organisers probably forgot they don't have konfig
2018-04-09 18:56
north tier 1 ?_?
2018-04-09 10:51
VP is not even tier 2 O M E G A L U L
2018-04-09 10:58
Sk vp and north t1??
2018-04-17 10:24
they alll shit
2018-04-09 11:30
Faze Sk C9 Liq Vp
2018-04-09 15:39
#49
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Netherlands Deji 
Vp tier 1 O_o
2018-04-09 17:23
#48
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Netherlands Deji 
SK C9
2018-04-09 17:22
#50
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Denmark Xipingu 
Na'Vi and SK.
2018-04-09 17:24
Sk isn't tier 1 though
2018-04-17 10:25
#192
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Denmark Xipingu 
Navi isn’t either, but I look at it all differently.
2018-04-17 11:54
Navi has been decent in 2018
2018-04-17 11:55
#194
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah but not tier 1. Besides I would argue that It’s S1mple doing it all. S1 definitely is a tier 1 player, but BOTward and Zeus needs to pick up their slack. Flamie is ok but not quite, and Electronic is to me inconsistent sometimes, but Also really good and can substitude S1mple with a bit more exp.
2018-04-17 11:58
Even if s1mple did all the work my point is that the team placed well in tourneys
2018-04-17 12:02
#198
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Denmark Xipingu 
Maybe, but when over half the team fails to perform in crucial situations, I won’t consider them tier 1.
2018-04-17 12:26
#65
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United States small__dude 
Navi SK G2 NiP c9 its hard to say top 5 worst tier 1 because tier 1 usually means theyre one of the best lol top 3 would be easier unless you think like every top15 team is tier 1
2018-04-11 10:10
#66
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Lithuania gime114 
VP SK C9 Astralis NiP Yes they're all T1 and they will be T1 until they stop beating T1 teams.
2018-04-11 10:11
#77
allu | 
United States muffinner 
the only time vp has beaten a t1 team on lan recently is in v4
2018-04-11 16:40
#84
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Lithuania gime114 
That was the most recent LAN that VP with significant T1 teams. Nice logic though can't argue with that.
2018-04-11 16:51
since epicenter 2017 the only bo3s theyve won on lan were against random asian teams, heroic, and the one against faze. they've legit beaten one tier 1 team in a lan bo3. out of the 3 2018 premiere events theyve attended (with direct invites), they've gotten last/2nd to last place they arent t1
2018-04-12 02:53
LANs =/= everything
2018-04-12 08:41
#68
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Malaysia byaIi 
Vega Squadron TyLoo GODSENT AGO Quantom Ballator Fire
2018-04-11 10:15
None of these are t1...
2018-04-11 16:36
those are not t1
2018-04-11 16:46
#82
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Malaysia byaIi 
sory i forget about SS
2018-04-11 16:48
ss is not t1 either not triggered, at least you tried
2018-04-11 16:48
#85
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Malaysia byaIi 
i didnt tried
2018-04-11 16:49
#72
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France Deadfish 
you mean faze?
2018-04-11 13:32
#73
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Turkey xAiakos 
FAZE AND NAVI
2018-04-11 13:32
#76
allu | 
United States muffinner 
faze sucks rn
2018-04-11 16:38
NiP
2018-04-11 16:41
1-G2 2-C9 3-SK 4-FaZe 5-NiP
2018-04-11 16:47
#90
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Colombia SkeletoNMLG 
na'vi
2018-04-11 19:39
G2, NaVi, SK
2018-04-11 19:43
#95
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Colombia AlejoBuh 
g2 fnatic gambit and maybe navi
2018-04-11 19:43
i dont think gambit is considered t1 anymore
2018-04-12 03:19
#106
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Colombia AlejoBuh 
still having a major
2018-04-12 03:50
yeah, and NiP still have a major
2018-04-12 13:53
g2, navi, sk, faze
2018-04-12 03:19
faze
2018-04-12 03:54
Liquid cuz they have bot taco
2018-04-12 04:22
Funny how nobody is mentioning mouz because they are clearly t1 right now besides FaZe
2018-04-12 04:27
Because mouz arent the worst t1 team, they are looking good, but faze is probably the one to. Lame since they cant close out finals
2018-04-12 04:34
Mythic
2018-04-12 04:33
#116
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Sweden mixmixmartin 
wouldve said faze, but faze is t2 atm
2018-04-12 04:35
#129
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North America liquidos_cs 
vp/nip/sk/c9
2018-04-12 18:00
#131
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Finland Hoansz 
Current best Tier 1: Mouse, Faze, fnatic, Astralis Worst Tier 1 currently: Sk, C9, G2, North, VP when you let count it Upcoming Tier 1: NiP, Sk, Navi without Edward, (maybe Liquid) Best Tier 2's: Sk, NiP, Navi, Space Soldiers, Hellraisers, NRG Lets talk about AGO in one year
2018-04-12 18:11
#140
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United States jay_320 
I'd say C9 but with the caveat that they could actually be better then their former selves depending on how the move works out. They look really good online right now at any rate. Excited to see the new look on LAN.
2018-04-12 20:45
SK and c9 =(
2018-04-12 20:52
sk cLOUD9 FaZe Na'Vi NiP
2018-04-13 13:18
NiP VP SS C9
2018-04-15 23:27
faze mouz astralis fnatic c9 / space soldiers
2018-04-15 23:29
navi sk g2 c9 SS
2018-04-15 23:40
Virtus.Pro -Worst G2 North Fnatic Cloud9 -Better
2018-04-15 23:48
#166
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
FaZe North G2 VP (idk if u can call them T1 tho) NIP I cant really put SK here atm since we have not seen them on LAN or a lot of matches.
2018-04-15 23:49
Clown9 NIP VP Astralis
2018-04-16 08:42
#170
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Iceland caverat 
g2 (tier 1 yet?) sk c9 strong t1 = faze, mouz, navi mid t1 = liquid c9 astralis fnatic weak t1 = sk, g2 (is g2 tier1 yet?)
2018-04-16 08:47
#180
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United States tediousmcgee 
Na'Vi tier one made me O M E G A L U L
2018-04-16 18:55
#188
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Europe p1peb0mb 
there is no strong t1 now like sk or faze last year. also mid t1 atm are mouz,fnatic,faze,liquid and astralis if they can repeat their online form on lan. sk,c9,g2,navi are wear t1 teams atm if fnatic or mouz wins one of dh or iem and have good placement in other ,they can be considered a strong t1 team.
2018-04-17 10:35
The only thing that is certain at the moment is that Mousesports will win on Mirage and S1mple will drop 30 and still lose.
2018-04-16 12:27
#179
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Ukraine beaztoff 
G2, SK, C9
2018-04-16 18:53
#187
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Ukraine 4rrch3r 
SK c9 g2 vp
2018-04-17 10:27
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