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MESSI GOAT
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Sweden Zolity 
One link, all facts: milannikoliccar17.wixsite.com/fcbarcalog.. U cant think that ronaldo is better lmao
2018-04-11 23:14
#1
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
Maybe he is not better, i do agree with you, but messi is out of the UCL again, just that.
2018-04-11 23:14
And?
2018-04-11 23:37
#23
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
And? probably you will not get the ballondor again because of that, and dont say to me that Argentina may win the WC, the way they are playing, i dont think so, they depend on messi, no messi no party.
2018-04-12 01:16
And?
2018-04-12 03:32
#46
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Finland SunMutsi 
mad cus messi is bad
2018-04-12 07:05
Read op and deal with the facts. Not to mention he's only talking about goals and assists, the only thing that Ronaldo is involved in. Messi is also involved in the entire offensive processes and midfield transitions. Doesn't matter how many blatter d'ors they give Penaldo, Messi is still the better player.
2018-04-12 19:19
#160
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Finland SunMutsi 
but look at barcas team they all so tiny so they have to play with their unique playstyle, and that makes messi the perfect man for that, while real got their playstyle and they cross quite alot, bcus they got the man who has great positioning for goalscoring: ronaldo
2018-04-12 19:26
Lol
2018-04-12 19:28
#165
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Finland SunMutsi 
but there is no1 whos best imo
2018-04-12 19:49
#395
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Ronaldo is a much better teamplayer, and that may shock your sorry ass but its true. When Barcelona conceded all he did was to complain together with Pique and didnt even try to give barcelona hope again, but when Real Madrid conceded the last goal, Ronaldo gave appluads to the team and he did so that Madrid believed in it and they won.
2018-04-15 10:38
i really don't discuss with people who say cr is better than messi i am sure people who say cr is better than messi ,haven't even watched a messi game!
2018-04-16 17:58
#509
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Well since you dont have any arguements i guess im right!
2018-04-16 23:46
statistics in your link are completey biased...
2018-04-17 02:14
#545
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Austria winghaveN 
messi the best? hahahah go fuck yourself
2018-04-18 19:06
#505
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Czech Republic divous6 
+1 and also he dumb af
2018-04-16 23:18
#54
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Albania Mamluku 
It depends if ronaldo wins the chl. if he doesnt than messi wins ballon dor.barca will propably win la liga and copa del rey
2018-04-12 07:22
#55
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Poland ToxoFox 
No one gives a broken fuck about copa del rey, la liga barely matters. You know what I will tell you? Ballon d'or will go for best player of a world cup winning team, just like usuall, unless Ronaldo wins UCL.
2018-04-12 07:28
#56
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Albania Mamluku 
Your argument is valid every 4 years mate. and since when domestic leagues dont matter. why do u even play 30+ matches if they dont matter
2018-04-12 07:35
so why didnt win neuer then? ballon dor is rigged as fuck
2018-04-12 14:41
#192
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Albania Mamluku 
Football is a big business, and only Messi and Ronaldo make big money for Fifa Uefa and co. and u are very right , neuer and iniesta shouldve won their ballon dor's but hey money is bigger than those two
2018-04-13 06:56
Because Messi became the best player of the tournament. Messi was the POTT in Brasil.
2018-04-14 01:08
he just got this award because he lost the final. he was literally useless during playoffs
2018-04-14 16:28
Not really useless. It's a big plus for other players if you have a player like Messi who draws attention of minimum 2 players.
2018-04-14 17:06
and? so did german players. your argument isnt very strong
2018-04-14 18:53
Okay, so Messi wasn't useless. That's the fact you confirmed and it's fine.
2018-04-14 21:27
1 ucl = 10 la ligas and 5 copas del rey lelelel cry messii
2018-04-12 16:23
#128
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Hungary Rollie 
ballon d'Or is for Salah
2018-04-12 17:28
#150
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
No.
2018-04-12 18:56
#152
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Hungary Rollie 
yes
2018-04-12 19:00
#164
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
whatever you say.
2018-04-12 19:49
#182
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Sweden Zolity 
salah lol
2018-04-12 23:18
#185
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Hungary Rollie 
Salah is god
2018-04-12 23:32
Well .. you got point but just as CSGO , football its team game. Its like saying "Coldzera is not 1st because once again out of major / tournament"
2018-04-12 22:13
#183
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 23:18
the biggest fact is that messi is born with his talent and ronaldo worked for it whole life, and you cant compare those 2 players, messi is an alien and he is the best player in universe, but ronaldo is best player ever among humans and thats it :)
2018-04-12 14:06
#81
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
I like both, the thing is that barcelona is out of the UCL, just that.
2018-04-12 14:15
dude i am real fan so just saying the fact xd that was clear penalty but I wanted to see overtimes...
2018-04-12 14:27
#83
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
Yeah i also think messi is better atm.
2018-04-12 14:35
+1
2018-04-12 14:39
#129
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Hungary Rollie 
But giving Buffon a red card was bs
2018-04-12 17:29
he told to ref that he is shit so no problem for that red
2018-04-12 20:43
What a bullshit. Who told you that Messi is talented and CR not. By your logic Cristiano is going from bot to god and Messi didnt train bcs he is god. Omg. Look at Messi free kicks statistic. He was bad at it and now become god, it means that he trains.
2018-04-14 16:23
Working hard will always be waaaaay more impressive than talent. That if anything is an argument FOR CR
2018-04-16 21:42
messi was born with two things attached.....the umbilical cord to his belly and football to his feet. and the latter still persists.its that natural to him ronaldo is good...better than most other contemporaries.sheer talent, confidence and hard work. you can have another ronaldo with adequate training. but...you simply can't have another messi..
2018-04-16 19:12
#528
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
Its truth
2018-04-17 12:35
lmao u are so dumb
2018-04-11 23:15
#7
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Sweden Zolity 
how?
2018-04-11 23:24
#122
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Denmark kozality 
Because these stats, and the context you need to put them in highlights how much crazier Ronaldo's stats are. He's selfmade, Messi has been carried by his team for almost a decade. It's only lately did it himself.
2018-04-12 16:54
#136
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Sweden Zolity 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
2018-04-12 17:42
lmao the only argument madrid fans have are his stats (which are only "better" because he is 2-3 years older than messi). If you actually know how football works, watch the game and are not mentally retarded you can see that messi is the better player. Sure Ronaldo is a beast and we are blessed to have 2 such good players playing at the same time. In future people will remember ronaldo as the guy who was almost as good as messi. lul
2018-04-12 18:02
yes keep beleiving that when ronaldo win his 6 ballond or lul
2018-04-13 22:52
#277
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
realfitguy show your portugese flag. Anyway if you take balon dors when talking about messi v ronaldo ur dumb. Its just a popularity award given to whoever of the 2 wins champions league.
2018-04-14 01:27
lmao first u say popularity check and then u say they give to the winner of the biggest competetion, your brain is too small to even argue
2018-04-14 01:29
#336
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
And the winner of the biggest competition is the best individual player, no???? And the most popular player will always be the one that won the biggest competition regardless if the loser had a much bettet season. No, your brain is too small to argue insinuating that the winner of the competition doesnt mean the most popular player.
2018-04-14 16:16
no idiot, ronaldo will always be the most famous player, he has 2 x more followesr on social media idiot
2018-04-14 16:23
#343
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
oh, you're real dumb. Not most famous as in followers. Balon dor > gives award to the one that won UCL regardless of who was the better player throughtout the whole year > they vote based on recent success > Ronaldo won ucl and was praised as a god bc of scoring a few penalties, whoever wins is the most normies' choice > votes based on popularity
2018-04-14 16:33
few penalties hahaha he was by far the top scorer in ucl last year and will be again this year, cry is free messi fangay
2018-04-14 16:41
#346
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
hmm i said that jokingly but seems you cant deny the rest of my point so its ok
2018-04-14 16:42
ur point makes no sense, winning the ucl is the biggest achievment to it makes totally sense you dubmfuck, you want people from portuguese leagbue scoring 40 goals to win ? use ur brain for once I know its hard since u are a gypsie
2018-04-14 17:00
#350
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
winning ucl = best individual player?????? youre such a blind fucking fanboy portugal calling me gypsy hahahaha You value the best players by goals only? Thanks for proving me youre a dumb biased gypsy that knows nothing about football once again.
2018-04-14 17:13
#451
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Sweden Zolity 
Lol u are stupid. Pls stop trolling
2018-04-16 19:02
#219
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Brazil VitorMed14 
LMAO expected from danish football scene
2018-04-13 17:35
#271
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
HAHAHAHAH Messi has the most chances created, most goals, most assists, most key passes in Barcelona now and you say he's been carried OK
2018-04-14 01:14
Are you retard? Who is key player in Real? I guess Modric and Kroos. Barcelona - no Messi, no win.
2018-04-14 16:24
OMEGALUL
2018-04-17 01:09
1+
2018-04-11 23:17
#48
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Sweden Zolity 
2+
2018-04-12 07:13
#4
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Mongolia Chuluun 
+1
2018-04-11 23:17
#49
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Sweden Zolity 
+2
2018-04-12 07:13
#5
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North America potatomato 
dont click , goat sex
2018-04-11 23:17
#8
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Sweden Zolity 
LUL +1
2018-04-11 23:24
#21
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
rofl
2018-04-11 23:39
#174
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Lithuania Mzeris 
wut
2018-04-12 22:10
#6
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Qatar y0fl0w^4 
ez for GOAT messi ty for the link, bookmarked
2018-04-11 23:20
#9
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Sweden Zolity 
np dude!
2018-04-11 23:24
the truth.!
2018-04-11 23:32
#47
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 07:12
"But the main thing that these Ronaldo fans don't seem to know is that even if Cristiano had the better ratios, the better numbers (which isn't the case), he would still be miles and miles below and behind Lionel Messi, who could stop scoring for the rest of his career and still be the greatest ever. Yes, the thing that wins you games in football are goals, but if you don't have anyone to create them, how will you get them? Besides, the beauty in football, the beauty in the beautiful game is what's on the pitch, not what's on the papers and the stat boards, and if we look at what players do on the pitch, no one has ever done it, and most likely no one ever will, better than Lionel Andres Messi." /close
2018-04-11 23:25
+1
2018-04-11 23:26
#25
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Portugal RKO23 
mate , ronaldo also can do what messi does , if is to create an oportunity for a goal, jesus , you people ,lol...
2018-04-12 03:38
#32
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Sweden Zolity 
No1 can do what messi does lol
2018-04-12 06:53
#90
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Portugal RKO23 
hi fanboy ,nice to meet you.
2018-04-12 14:52
#97
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Sweden Zolity 
hello fanboy, nice to meet u to! Watch this u ronaldo fanboy :)) youtube.com/watch?v=1ogD0aIpe9s
2018-04-12 16:17
#126
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Portugal RKO23 
is blocked...
2018-04-12 17:22
#137
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Sweden Zolity 
copy the link then? Not that hard lmao
2018-04-12 17:42
#141
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Portugal RKO23 
I CANT SEE IT , CUZ IS BLOCKED... THE LA LIGA (MEDIAPRO) BLOCKED the video.
2018-04-12 17:49
#142
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Sweden Zolity 
I CAN SEE IT? NOT ON HLTV BUT I U COPY THE LINK AND PODT IT IN SEARCH BAR U CAN WARCH IT I THINK. (NO NEED TO SPAM IN CAPS) :))
2018-04-12 17:51
#173
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Sweden Zolity 
So have u watched it?
2018-04-12 22:06
#177
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Portugal RKO23 
gotta love shitty tube , i skimmed through it , funny thing is , he's not able to do half now , i think... but oh well... he got eliminated from ucl the 3rd time in a row xd
2018-04-12 23:11
#178
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Sweden Zolity 
Lol thats all u got after watching through the vid? LMFAO
2018-04-12 23:12
#180
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Portugal RKO23 
why should i say something else?
2018-04-12 23:12
#181
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Sweden Zolity 
He can do it 100 percent. Go watch some games LMAO
2018-04-12 23:13
#186
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Portugal RKO23 
mate... he's not doing it so often as far as i know...
2018-04-12 23:36
#193
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Sweden Zolity 
he is as far as i know
2018-04-13 07:31
#267
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Portugal RKO23 
*shrugs* ill watch the game tomorrow. just in case. and i like to watch messi play.
2018-04-14 01:10
#285
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Sweden Zolity 
Good!
2018-04-14 12:09
#454
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Sweden Zolity 
So did u watch it? ;)
2018-04-16 19:14
#475
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Portugal RKO23 
nah , i overslept xd but i know that he didn't scored xd , which means , he most probably didn't do it , cuz everytime he does it ,he usually scores 95 % of the time.
2018-04-16 20:06
#482
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Sweden Zolity 
Yeah he scores alot. And assist's alot aswell.
2018-04-16 20:23
#485
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Portugal RKO23 
eh xd im the key defender against him xd he wouldn't pass through me a lot of time , i believe that xd
2018-04-16 20:29
#487
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Sweden Zolity 
Lul Xd
2018-04-16 21:10
#530
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Portugal RKO23 
is true though...
2018-04-17 17:19
#536
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Portugal RKO23 
hi again xd , gonna watch barça today , ofc ,through the pc xd
2018-04-17 19:10
#542
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Sweden Zolity 
Watched it? Xd
2018-04-18 19:00
#566
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Portugal RKO23 
yeah , messi didn't gave up 1 time xd.
2018-04-18 22:11
#568
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Sweden Zolity 
haha nope :D What game did u watch?
2018-04-19 08:09
#574
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Portugal RKO23 
the latest one.
2018-04-19 12:54
#577
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Sweden Zolity 
ok! :D
2018-04-19 15:31
GOALS AFTER ONE DRIBBLE: Messi - 122; Cristiano - 48. GOALS AFTER TWO DRIBBLES: Messi - 41; Cristiano - 11. GOALS AFTER THREE DRIBBLES: Messi - 15; Cristiano - 2. GOALS AFTER FOUR OR MORE DRIBBLES: Messi - 4; Cristiano - 0. Seems he really can't. He's just an old no.9, and from some years now, he's a player staying in the goalie area, waiting to push the ball into the net. But hey, your flag checks-out
2018-04-12 09:17
#91
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Portugal RKO23 
dribbles , lmao.
2018-04-12 14:52
Dribles xD thats why ronaldo is 10 games 15 goals and messi .... euhh i dont even know how many goals he have on ucl
2018-04-12 16:25
#212
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Russia goodjob 
6
2018-04-13 12:20
When you compare AM and CF, different playstyle, Messi cant play in box like Ronaldo, Ronaldo cant create goal by himself like Messi
2018-04-14 16:28
#569
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Sweden Zolity 
messi is tied with salah for golden ball(numer 1) and ronaldo is sooo far back (like 7th)
2018-04-19 08:11
Hell nooooooooooooooo
2018-04-19 18:36
#580
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Sweden Zolity 
He is, check it up lol
2018-04-19 18:54
last 12games 22 goals , maybe winner of UCL , if he play well on World cup he will win easy the golden ball ( if he win UCL )
2018-04-19 18:55
#582
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Sweden Zolity 
No
2018-04-19 19:06
cry xDDDD messi sucks
2018-04-19 19:32
#585
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Sweden Zolity 
Nope, check the stats
2018-04-19 19:34
#501
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Finland t33mu 
personally, and as a madrid fan, I think messi is the more naturally talented and skilled footballer.but I also think ronaldo is the most effective of the two, as evidenced by ronaldo's far better stats in quarter finals, semis and finals
2018-04-16 22:10
And I didn't denied CR7 is a better scoarer. In the last few years, Ronaldo was better. He was insane, if we look at his stats in UCL.
2018-05-09 22:46
#98
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 16:18
#114
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Finland Ez4encehaHAA 
Sounds quite gay
2018-04-12 16:42
#489
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Brazil Doador 
big respect to magical messi.I’m a Ronaldo fan but he made the comparison fair which I like.You didn’t rig it at all and you fairly compared them with no bias.Now clearly I believe Ronaldo is the better striker however Messi is more complete everything, he is better at assisting and dribbling but I respect both!
2018-04-16 21:15
this
2018-04-11 23:25
#41
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 07:01
#13
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United Kingdom ChrisFroome 
Why didn’t the GOAT play yesterday? Injuried?
2018-04-11 23:25
I think OP is not the manager of FC Barcelona, so you will not find an honest answer here.
2018-04-11 23:30
#14
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Romania EdwardGabriel 
+1
2018-04-11 23:25
#40
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Sweden Zolity 
+2
2018-04-12 07:00
>Sweden >Soccer PICK ONE
2018-04-11 23:30
#31
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Sweden Zolity 
well we are in the world cup. And we have a better player than any brazillian player
2018-04-12 06:52
bro 5 world cups for Brasil how many for sweden??
2018-04-12 14:43
#105
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Sweden Zolity 
None, cos we aren't a football country? lmao toxic brazillian
2018-04-12 16:22
#159
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Czech Republic Rewask 
How many hockey world championships for Brazil Lul?
2018-04-12 19:21
#190
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Italy steven513 
hockey lul
2018-04-13 00:23
#458
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Mancow 
Hockey is nice.
2018-04-16 19:21
Hahahaha 3/8 btw
2018-04-15 17:33
Messi GOAT cry is free
2018-04-11 23:35
#39
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 07:00
wow.. messi is the GOAT.
2018-04-11 23:37
#38
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 07:00
ITS A FAKIN OPINION YOU THINK MESSI IS GOAT WELL I DONT ITS ONES CHOICE... FFS .. stop this crap already makes me puke Messi is a God Ronaldo is a Genious TAKE YOUR PICK AND SHUT UP AND APRECIATE THE FOOTBALL LIKE RONALDOS GOAL VS JUVE OR MESSI GOAL AGAINST BAYERN SOME YEARS AGO im sooooo tired of fakin Ronaldo haters its dumb
2018-04-11 23:42
its an opinion you are dumb
2018-04-12 17:27
#138
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Sweden Zolity 
Yeah ik XD
2018-04-12 17:43
the way he speaks hes obv a fanboy of Messi... how can we trust hes stats when he talks of Madrid offside goals but doesnt speak of Barcelona most disshonest game vs Chelsea like 5 penaltys 3 CLEAR and the game vs PSG Suarez dive just ex... i dont think both are goat imo its Ronaldinho and i think Ronaldo is better than Messi. Bye blind fan
2018-04-12 19:28
#26
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Portugal faithal 
best b8 ever dude, and people continue to fall xD
2018-04-12 03:42
#29
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Sweden Zolity 
2018-04-12 06:51
#94
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Portugal faithal 
Analysis uses shares all the time to try to give some edge on Messi. Don't get me wrong, Messi is out of this world, but looking at the figures and in decisive moments, Ronaldo is just too good to be true. Also I do not foresee that Messi's career will last as long as Ronaldo's, but that is just a guess. Both are GOAT. For me Ronaldo is just the perfect athlete all-around, Messi is the a skill dribbling genius with great impact.
2018-04-12 15:05
#27
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Brazil mibrzera 
messi > all
2018-04-12 03:45
#28
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 06:51
Ronaldo will be 6 vs 5 in Ballon Dor 😂
2018-04-12 06:55
#34
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Sweden Zolity 
if that is even the case messi is still better
2018-04-12 06:56
Ronaldo more fans Just cry :D Cry is free Portugal European Champion
2018-04-12 06:58
#37
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Sweden Zolity 
lol that is the worst argument i have ever seen LMFAO. And no, Ronaldo does not have more fans LOL. Can u show me the source of that btw?
2018-04-12 07:00
#50
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Portugal R0cketOG 
Instagram ?
2018-04-12 07:13
#51
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Sweden Zolity 
Instagram lmao. That isn't really a source. Btw barca gas much more fans than real madrid, messi is better, messi is more world known
2018-04-12 07:14
#60
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Portugal R0cketOG 
Yeah. Ronaldo is only the most followed athlete in the world. 2nd most followed personality, with 116M followers. No one knows the guy, pitty him. So if IG isnt a source, tell me your sources for those statements.
2018-04-12 08:34
#64
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Sweden Zolity 
u said fans, not followers.
2018-04-12 09:17
#69
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Portugal R0cketOG 
Lol. Id rather argue with a wall. You won bro.
2018-04-12 09:24
#72
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Sweden Zolity 
aight
2018-04-12 13:43
Did you just said messi is more "world known" than ronaldo? You cant be serious LOL. Messi is the best player ever imo, but dont make a fool out of yourself trying to defend that, Ronaldo IS the most world known player BY FAR.
2018-04-12 15:47
you cant honestly think messi is more famous than ronaldo when ronaldo has 2x followers than him in social media...
2018-04-14 01:32
How dumb is it to debate who is the most known when almost everybody on earth know both their names. i'll never follow anyone on instragram, that doesn't mean shit. What you guys are debating is utterly stupid
2018-04-15 20:24
#276
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
balon do'r is nothing but a popularity award given to whoever won the champions league, if you take balon dors into account when talking about messi v ronaldo youre a complete moron who knows nothing about football
2018-04-14 01:25
#473
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Portugal Zedonp 
Since both have the same ammoun it at least means they are close to the same lvl but since Ronaldo wonthe last two means he has been better the past two years. Dismissing all that just cuz ur a messi fangay is even more moronic and doesn't prove you know or understand football at all
2018-04-16 19:49
100% messi is better! there is no way he can be compared to anyone.ronaldo is only a goal scorer while messi is everything.scorer teamplayer,playmaker, dribler, fast as hell, rarely fails in his actions, one word spectacular
2018-04-16 21:19
#493
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
lol you did nothing to dispute my point about balon do'r being irrelevant and even used it as a point in your next sentence lmfao. Youre the biased fangay here. I notice 95% ronaldo defenders here are portugese, while the majority ( which was voted on polls on hltv ) Messi fans are literally from every country. Youre the biased ones here that cant accpet Messi is better bc Ronaldo is your national hero. BALON DOR MEANS NOTHING, ITS GIVEN TO THE PLAYER THAT WON CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, FOR EXAMPLE BARCA WINS CHAMPIONS LEAGUE AND EVEN IF RONALDO HAD A BETTER YEAR MESSI WILL GET IT YOURE A DUMB COON
2018-04-16 21:33
When Messi do someting for Argentina like Ronaldo for Portugal then he is GOAT 😂😂
2018-04-12 06:59
#43
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Sweden Zolity 
He took them to the final? Lmao what has ronaldo done with he's country? Nothing. Messi is better at everything. EVERYTHING
2018-04-12 07:02
Ronaldo scored 3 goals vs Hungry that qualified us to the playoffs Ronaldo hatrick vs Sweden qualified Portugal to the 2014 World cup
2018-04-12 08:21
#65
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Sweden Zolity 
Lul hungry. Lul sweden
2018-04-12 09:18
#275
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
ARGENTINA'S WIN PERCENTAGE: With Messi - 72%; Without Messi - 19% what is he supposed to do if his team is utter shit
2018-04-14 01:24
messi is absolutely better than anyone.disgusting to be compared with that marketing player...
2018-04-16 21:21
That was so detailed, great job m8. +1
2018-04-12 07:01
#44
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Sweden Zolity 
Thanks dude!
2018-04-12 07:02
Why is this in a CSGO forum...
2018-04-12 07:16
#68
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Sweden Zolity 
Well i put the thread at off topic?
2018-04-12 09:20
prntscr.com/j49d6p you should rethink that
2018-04-12 13:58
#151
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Sweden Zolity 
oh haha Xd. Thought i put it off topic :// My bad
2018-04-12 18:56
np
2018-04-12 19:06
art -> messi engineer -> ronaldo engineer > art
2018-04-12 07:21
#74
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Sweden Zolity 
wtf
2018-04-12 13:46
Garrincha = GOAT /CLOSED
2018-04-12 07:36
#67
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Sweden Zolity 
LUL
2018-04-12 09:19
#61
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Myanmar de_insertion 
Cristiano is clearly much better than Messi at penalties, but that means that Messi has scored more non-penalty goals in his career than the Portuguese has, making it look, even more, like Messi is the better goalscorer. and this guy (i guess it is OP in this case) says messi can perform in EPL. bitch please even west brom is more powerful than leganes i dont care about messi or ronaldo i only care about new guys like mbappe coman dele alli kane pulisic kimmich etc.. but this is basically nonsense
2018-04-12 08:40
#75
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Sweden Zolity 
But messi can peform against EPL teams. And he has. He has scored very many goals against them aswell. (And good teams in champions league)
2018-04-12 13:47
#95
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Myanmar de_insertion 
ARSEnal manchester united(was good but shit nowadays) chelshit(was good but worse than shit nowadays)
2018-04-12 15:41
#106
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Sweden Zolity 
Man city? I guess liverpool? United shit? LMAO. Man city shit? LMAO
2018-04-12 16:23
#112
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Myanmar de_insertion 
liverpool is good city is at their peak now i have no words for liverpool and city but united is shit
2018-04-12 16:39
#115
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Sweden Zolity 
Shit? Yeah they are really shit while being 2nd on the table while having 1 match less played than liverpool (3rd)
2018-04-12 16:42
#130
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Myanmar de_insertion 
yeah dude give tottenham the option that score 1 goal and stay back for the whole time and watch them being 1st place fuck sake
2018-04-12 17:33
#452
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Argentina soulete 
messi is the best part of a well oiled machine.he plays with practically his family and he gets far greater efficiency than ronaldo.but, take him away from that machine and take ronaldo away from real madrid both in 2 new clubs and ronaldo will easily outclass messi.ronaldo has experience adapting to various situations, various teams.messi is phenomenal but he has only worked with one team. tou can't say who is the best
2018-04-16 19:06
#500
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Myanmar de_insertion 
exactly dude this is actually one of the best explanations in this thread
2018-04-16 21:49
#62
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Portugal R0cketOG 
There are only 2 players that could be put above Ronaldo. Maradona and Eusebio, both achieved world glory in lesser teams. Everyone else has to be at his level or below. And im not talking about talent. There are far more talented players than Ronaldo, he isnt even the most talented portuguese player of his generation imo, but consistency, results, achievements, career, he is one of the GOAT.
2018-04-12 08:41
#66
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Sweden Zolity 
Nope. If u actually look at the stats that isnt right. Lmao normal purtugal ronaldo fanboy
2018-04-12 09:19
messi is more efficient and his age is never catching him anytime soon.. so ronaldo's records can be broken..I am a messi fan, hate ronaldo's arrogance and his deluded fanbase but love his good qualities.. :)
2018-04-16 21:22
#70
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Estonia kikilips 
most of the data is outdated/wrong and clearly written by Messi fanboy :D "goals after dribble" :D wtf statistic is that. "messi could have done it in England" he can only play in Spain with barca, statistics based on goals scored against PL teams :D oh boy another barca fan logic site atleast it is funny to read what bullshit they write on these sites
2018-04-12 09:32
#73
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Sweden Zolity 
Are you stupid? Goals after beating 1 player, 2 players, 3 players is real statistics. Search it up. And those are true, search it up. And hahahah Messi plays against PL teams in champions league. So the stats there is also pretty much against good PL teams?
2018-04-12 13:46
#80
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Estonia kikilips 
PL team vs PL team = playing in PL statistics you cant take statistics as ronaldo plays in RM against tottenham = means he can be as good in premier league as he is in real madrid for fuck sakes who actually gives a fuck how many players you beat before you score a goal? roma last goal beat only the goalkeeper and that was enough to send your god to home watching CL games from tv retard
2018-04-12 14:09
#110
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Sweden Zolity 
lol i cant even argue with u. u dumb
2018-04-12 16:27
You called him dumb you won the argument
2018-04-13 22:51
#284
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Sweden Zolity 
well he is? Xd
2018-04-14 12:08
the biggest fact is that messi is born with his talent and ronaldo worked for it whole life, and you cant compare those 2 players, messi is an alien and he is the best player in universe, but ronaldo is best player ever among humans and thats it :)
2018-04-12 14:06
#103
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 16:20
#274
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
cant agree more, even though ive been a messi fanboy since like 2008 cant not respect what Ronaldo has done and achieved. The man is a literal machine looking like his prime at 33.
2018-04-14 01:23
ofc my brother
2018-04-14 12:02
#79
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Finland Ez4encehaHAA 
Lool was gonna write something harsh but my kötbullar here is og
2018-04-12 14:08
#102
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Sweden Zolity 
Luv u finland <33 (no homo)
2018-04-12 16:19
#84
kääbik | 
Finland Vkims 
Can you be goat with out winning world cup?
2018-04-12 14:39
#101
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Sweden Zolity 
uh yeah?
2018-04-12 16:19
then some african in some remote village is probably better than messi so fak off
2018-04-17 01:16
#523
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Sweden Zolity 
nah bro hahahha
2018-04-17 07:24
#88
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Portugal Zedonp 
Oh so when Ronaldo has more goals you say messi is not a goal scorer but then use stats from the time when Ronaldo was not playing as a goal scorer to prove messi is better. Nt retard here are the statistics for la liga (lets not talk about UCL cuz we know messi is trash on harder games) ...................................................goals /appearences/ ratio Lionel Messi Barcelona 2004– 378 412 0.92 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid 2009–308 289 1.07
2018-04-12 14:49
#89
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CIS Merlas_mtk 
Easiest 6 ballon d'or in Ronaldo's life
2018-04-12 14:49
So basicaly Messi better at everything except putting away penalties
2018-04-12 14:54
#100
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Sweden Zolity 
yeah
2018-04-12 16:19
ARGENTINA'S WIN PERCENTAGE: With Messi - 72%; Without Messi - 19%. Find the mistake.
2018-04-12 14:56
#99
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Sweden Zolity 
huh?
2018-04-12 16:18
What happened to the other 9%?
2018-04-12 16:20
#108
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Sweden Zolity 
im sry but ur stupid lol. When they play with messi they win 72 precent of the games. When they dont have messi they just win 19 precent of the matches? What do you mean with the other 9 percent?
2018-04-12 16:24
What happened to the other 9%?
2018-04-12 16:39
#113
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Sweden Zolity 
nothing? It shouldn't be 100 either? (not supposed to) It just shows how much win precentige they have?
2018-04-12 16:41
What happened to the other 9%?
2018-04-12 16:42
#117
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Sweden Zolity 
Are u trolling?
2018-04-12 16:43
I'm not, I'm asking what happened to the other 9%? What happened to the other 9% of the games?
2018-04-12 16:45
#119
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Sweden Zolity 
i just explained that? It just shows huw much win precentige they have while they are playing with messi and without messi? How hard is it to understand? So those 9 percent doesn't even matter?
2018-04-12 16:47
It does, because they are the other 9% of the games, how hard is it to understand, 10iq?
2018-04-12 16:51
#131
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Sweden Zolity 
im gonna stop replying to you know i cant handle the stupidity lmao
2018-04-12 17:38
xD +1 but I disagree on the messi ronaldo debate
2018-04-17 02:22
maybe it was draw
2018-04-12 16:58
I'm kidding, Kpop_is_gay from Hong Kong.
2018-04-12 16:59
Troll or subhuman. I think subhuman, but now you'll claim you were trolling all along.
2018-04-14 12:55
Successful bait, it seems.
2018-04-14 12:58
Proven my point subhuman!
2018-04-14 13:00
#121
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Portugal noxer* 
Cristiano Ronaldo vs Leo Messi in court Judge: Have any of you won the Golden ball? Ronaldo: Yes, 5 times. Messi: Yes, 5 times as well. Judge: Have any of you won the Golden Boot? Ronaldo: Yes, 4 times. Messi: Same here. Judge: How many individual trophies have you each won? Ronaldo: 16. Messi: 13. Judge: Have any of you played for another club’s first team besides your current one? Ronaldo: Yes! Sporting CP in Portugal first division and Manchester United in BPL. Messi: No. Only Barcelona. Judge: Have any of you won a title with your national team? Ronaldo: Yes! We won Portugal’s first ever European Championship. Messi: No. Judge: How many goals have each of you scored for your respective teams? Ronaldo: Should I count the goals I’ve scored for Man United and Sporting? Judge: No. Only for Real Madrid. Ronaldo: 427 goals in 421 appearances or 9 seasons. Messi: 534 goals in 617 appearances or 14 seasons. Judge: Who has scored more hat- tricks in La Liga? Ronaldo: Me. 35 in La Liga. Messi: Ronaldo has. I’ve scored 28. Judge: Which is the most prestigious competition in club football? Ronaldo: Champions League. Messi: Champions League. Judge: Have any of you won Champions League? Ronaldo: Yes, 4 times in total with 2 different teams. Once with Man United and 3 times with Madrid. Messi: Yes, 4 times as well with Barcelona only. Judge: Who has scored more goals in the CL between the two of you? Ronaldo: I’ve scored 114 goals in the CL. Messi: I’ve scored 97. Judge: Who has more assists between the two of you in the CL? Ronaldo: I have 38. Messi: Ronaldo has. I have 26. Judge: Who has scored more goals in total in the CL finals? Ronaldo: Me. Messi: Ronaldo. Judge: Which one of you have scored more free kicks? Ronaldo: I have. Messi: Ronaldo has. Judge: Most goals with weak foot? Ronaldo: Me, I think. Messi: (Nods in agreement). Judge: Most goals from outside of the box? Ronaldo: Me.. again. Messi: Ronaldo. Judge: Who has scored more headers? Ronaldo: Is that a serious question? Messi: ... Judge: Who has a better penalty conversion rate? Ronaldo: I think I do. I’ve scored 82% of the penalties I’ve taken. Messi: I’ve scored 77% of the penalties I’ve taken. Judge: Which one of you have scored the most goals in total during your career? Ronaldo: I think I have. 628 goals. Messi: I’ve scored 595. Judge: How many football records do each of you hold in total for both club and country? Ronaldo: 146 Messi: 110 Judge: Well, after analyzing all of the facts that have been presented to me. I can only draw one conclusion when it comes to comparing you both as football players. That conclusion is that Ronaldo is the better player in almost every category. When it comes to goal scoring and accolades for both club and country, Ronaldo comes out on top. Messi, you are without a doubt Barcelona’s best player of all time. But certainly not the world’s best ever. That is clearly Ronaldo at the moment. Messi: But I am younger than Ronaldo and haven’t played as many matches as him. Judge: I understand that, but until you surpass his goal scoring records and win as many trophies both individually and collectively as he has, then Ronaldo will, according to the statistics, be considered as the best football player of all time. Until then, keep pushing on and you just might be able to achieve just as much as Ronaldo
2018-04-12 16:51
#132
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Sweden Zolity 
Did u read the the things that stood in the site? That messi is better in every category without goals in national teams
2018-04-12 17:40
hes ronaldo dick sucker
2018-04-12 19:28
#172
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 22:05
U are such a Libtard u penaldo cock sucker. Messi has played less champions league game than Ronaldo u cunt. He obvs gonna have more goals when Ronaldo has more games idiot. Messi will always have greater goal to game ratio
2018-04-14 00:04
#259
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Portugal noxer* 
Libtard is completly displaced in your phrase, it goes to show you don't even know what it means yet you use it. He will indeed, Ronaldo spent more than half of his carrear as a winger - where he was the best in the world as well. If you do not understand that i feel sorry for you. You are so buthurt, I bet you are a Man. City newfag fanboy with less than 15 years old. Stfu now, go watch your highlight videos on youtube and don't forget in a few weeks to watch Ronaldo astonishing performance in the final against liverpool and winning UCL once again via youtube as well. He will have as many ULC titles has barcelona has in their entire history.
2018-04-14 00:57
Well u got the Man City wrong. I’m a man united supporter and older than 15 u cunt. Also Ronaldo was the best in the world as a winger for about 1 season😂😂, he was great for united but his mainstream plays were always with real madrid
2018-04-20 08:01
well they think that messi is better than ronaldo because he has natural talent in football.may be he is better than ronaldo but the level ronaldo achieved is earned from hard work I stand with ronaldo because he is more hard working than messi.no doubt messi is a world class player and it's very hard to say who's better between messi and ronaldo.I think the reason people say messi is better because his dribbling is outstanding and in that way I think messi is slightly better than ronaldo but I still stand with ronaldo
2018-04-17 18:46
#123
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Portugal noxer* 
Ronaldo is born for big games, Messi just chokes and sucks. Those stats are biased btw. Including percentages in some - in which Messi is better - and not in other - in which Ronaldo is better - just shows how retarded that website uefalona page is. Also, wrong individual awards for Ronaldo, missing some of them so that Messe can have more, how hilarious.
2018-04-12 16:55
#133
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Sweden Zolity 
Lul ronaldo fanboy detected
2018-04-12 17:40
#134
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Portugal noxer* 
More like Messi fanboy detected from you. I'm being impartial. Stats on that site are wrong.
2018-04-12 17:40
#135
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Sweden Zolity 
Prove it to me then? I cant find ANYTHING thats wrong woth the site (without a few goals ofc)
2018-04-12 17:41
#146
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Portugal noxer* 
Alright: - Comparing Ronaldo as a winger in United and adding up his stats to nowadays Real Madrid Ronaldo is just wrong, you can't do it. Ronaldo was a playmaker back then, the best winger in the world, now he is the best FWC in the world. His playing style changed a lot. He understood he is more lethal being a FWC now that he is ageing than being a winger. He switched his playing style - only the very best can do that. -So "CRISTIANO RONALDO IS THE BETTER GOALSCORER" is all biased and wrongly done. They even go as further as adding his Sporting CP goals/assists whatsoever to make that stats. -"CRISTIANO IS THE BETTER FREE KICK TAKER" now they come up with the argument that even tough Ronaldo has more free kicks, Ronaldo is hitting less now. Who cares? He is declining, he is 33 years old. -"MESSI WOULD FLOP IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE" This section is just wrong overall, you can't predict how he would be in the premier league if he never played there, specially has he wouldn't be able to play as Barcelona in premier league. Thus, invalidating all this section. -"Cristiano can score headers" - well, nothing to add here. Ronaldo is better. But they still felt the need to make it something not so big so that Messi can shine. You can even notice it by the title they used, it's clearly biased. - Cristiano can score penalties": again, Ronaldo better, no doubt. They still try to make it not a big deal using a retarded title showing how biased they are CRISTIANO RONALDO IS THE KING OF THE UCL - He is. Same argument as the first point I made. You can't take Ronaldo Man U and SCP as a winger and add up his stats so that he ends up having a worse rating than Messi. If you use Cristiano Ronaldo RM statistics on UCL he is clearly the superior player. - "MESSI DOESN'T PERFORM WITH ARGENTINA" - Ronaldo performs better with Portugal. Again, a fact. He even has an international title. And yes, unlike stated on that website, he was great for portugal in euro 2016. Now the club trouphies: For some reason, even after adding up his goals/assists from SCP days, they forgot to add his titles for SCP, which were 3 titles. They also forgot to add: English Cup; English Super Cup and English league cup which make up for Ronaldo having more titles in total than Messi As for individual trouphies: 1.bp.blogspot.com/-eXpueIdBjBI/WlaMS3Lc8.. That's it. + they deleted my comment ;).
2018-04-12 18:13
#147
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Sweden Zolity 
SO ur saying that they shouldn't include his sporting cp time? AND his united times? Thats stupid. Best So they should include messi's stats from the first seasons but ONLY include Ronaldo's stats when he joined La Liga? LMFAO. And aproximetly all of ur arguments is stupid LUL. So ronaldo performes better with portugal than messi with argentina? AND THATS A FACT? LMAOOO. Explain this : ARGENTINA'S WIN PERCENTAGE: With Messi - 72%; Without Messi - 19%. huh? Ronaldo is better for portugal than messi for argentina? Also explain this : INTERNATIONAL GOALS: Messi - 61 in 123 (0.5); Cristiano - 81 in 149 (0.54). INTERNATIONAL ASSISTS: Messi - 37 in 123 (0.3); Cristiano - 27 in 149 (0.18). TOTAL: Messi - 98 in 123 (0.79); Cristiano - 108 in 149 (0.72). "Ronaldo performs better with Portugal. Again, a fact." LMAO. Here aswell: Messi - Brazil, Uruguay (4), Colombia, Chile (3), Spain (2), Portugal, Germany, France (1); Ronaldo - Belgium (3), The Netherlands (2), Poland, Argentina (1). AND BTW! U said that "Ronaldo was a playmaker back then" Well even IF he was. Messi got MORE assist AND MORE goals PER Apperence. He EVEN got more goals some seasons AND more assists? AND HE WAS 3 YEARS YOUNGER THAN HIM! And Messi is sooo much better than Ronaldo in freekicks. And ur argument is that he is "declining" LMFAO AHHAHAHA
2018-04-12 18:51
#154
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Portugal noxer* 
-If you are comparing two players atleast compare them when they are both playing in the same league LOL. Nice to see you don't even have a counter argument, you just say it's stupid because you are an irrational fuck. Ronaldo as a winger was the best in the world while in Man U; -Ronaldo has an international title - which speaks by itself- , with a 100 times shittier team than Argentina which has stars like Aguero, Dybala, Higuain, Di maria, Macherano, Otamendi, Tevez, Banega, Pavón, Salvio, Gaitan...LOL, obviously he will have a better assist rate. Portugal has Nani and Quaresma!! (Now Bernardo Silva, William and Gelson!) ; -Where are the stats saying "Portugal % of wins with Ronaldo?". They aren't even there because it's a site made by people like you who are biased fucks; -Glad you agree with me regarding titles, UCL, penalties, headers and pretty much everything else; -JUST AS A SIDE NOTE: NEARLY HALF OF MESSI'S GOALS FOR ARGENTINA (27 out of 61) ARE FROM FRIENDLY MATCHES AHAHAHAHAHAHA -> which goes to prove he is a real choker who sucks in big games.
2018-04-12 19:13
#156
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Sweden Zolity 
Ur are actually so stupid
2018-04-12 19:16
#157
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Portugal noxer* 
Because I proved you wrong, okey. Have a nice day and don't get so salty, messi fanboy.
2018-04-12 19:18
#169
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Sweden Zolity 
Proved me wrong? hhahah good joke. "-If you are comparing two players atleast compare them when they are both playing in the same league LOL" So we should compare ronaldo in his prime vs messis full carrer? HAHAHAH. Even if we started comparing them when he joined la liga would be stupid LMAO. Best in the world at man u? Sure, for 1 season. But messi was the best in the world 4 seasons after that at 3 years younger. The ronaldo portugal thing? If u watch international football u should know it isn't that bad lmao. even i know that. And i dont agree with u on cl, and everything else? And Btw that friendly thing, look here. Messi still has the record in FIFA World Cup qualification. AND this is ronaldos most scored goals against one team: Goals by opponent Opponent Goals Armenia 5 Sweden 5 Latvia 5 Andorra 5 Netherlands 4 Estonia 4 Hungary 4 Faroe Islands 4 Luxembourg 3 Northern Ireland 3 Denmark 3 Sooo Messi chokes in big international games lol watch this then. Messi - Brazil, Uruguay (4), Colombia, Chile (3), Spain (2), Portugal, Germany, France (1); Cristiano - Belgium (3), The Netherlands (2), Poland, Argentina (1). LMAO GIVE UP. And portugal is sooo much better than argentina without messi. If u dont see that u are stupid. Btw Messi took his team to the WORLD CUP FINAL. HaS RONALDO DONE THAT? NO. SIDE NOTE: SO U AGREE WIT ALL MY STATEMENTS ON MY POST BEFORE? I GUESS BECAUSE U CANT EVEN MAKE A ARGUMENT AGAINST THEM. U KNOW HE WORSE THAN MESSI, EVERYONES KNOWS IT
2018-04-12 21:51
#189
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Portugal noxer* 
I do not agree with anything you said. If you can't accept my first argument I might say for sure that I've meet the first disabled person in HLTV. Like, literally, if you don't understand that to compare both messi and ronaldo you should compare them since they are playing on La Liga, I would say you are missing quite a few braincells. It's utterly insane to think you can compare Manchester Ronaldo with Barcelona Messi, that's just some out of this world logic. Again, Ronaldo did not play as a forward like messi did all his carrear. He was a winger in a much different league than la liga. that's why comparing Pele to Maradona is useless. You reach a dead end which you clearly do not understand because you lack some human intelligence. You can't even name the Portuguese starting 11 without googling, just stfu. One more time, Argentina has clearly better players than Portugal. Sure, if they had Ronaldo they would actually have titles because Ronaldo would NOT miss that penalty which obviously Messi did (I was expecting it, he chokes a lot - I even remember him throwing up in a game), but that's not Argentina's fault, that's Messi fault. Argentina has really good footballers, Messi is one of them, but he simply is not better than Ronaldo. That's a fact. (Portugal has some good footballers, a few average, and the best in the world). Regarding your last point, I hope you understand those stats do include friendly matches which mean SHIT. Pelé also scored a shit tone of goals on friendlies, and those are not even counted by most people. You defy human intelligence, really.
2018-04-13 00:04
#194
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Sweden Zolity 
Are u legit trolling? Cos it looks like u are atleast LMFAO. Why would we compare them when they came in the same league? Thats REALLY stupid. AND Messi even played the MIDFIELDER ROLE for a LONG time aswell. And even there he had BETTER results than ronaldo. So Messi haven't pleyed midfielder all his "carrear" and not being able to compare maradona and pele cos of that is REALLY STUPID. But even tho i think pele is overrated u can still compare them? If now why is everyone doing that instead of you? Are u the only "Smart" guy here? About that Portugal and argentina thing. UR STUPID. Sure, Argentina have better players. But such a worse team. If u look at the stats with argentina without messi is insanely bad. lmao and i have written that already. And u remember him throwing up? And? Well that argument is stupid. I will say than that i have seen ronaldo cry MULITIPLE times. But what about his record in the fifa world cup qualafication? What about that he took them to the WORDL CUP FINAL?!?. Btw u havn't pretty much agrumentet against all my other arguments so i guess i won. And btw. DID U SEE RONALDOS GOALS AGAINST THE BIG INTERNATIONAL TEAMS? HGAGAHAHAHGAHGAHA. But how is he the best in the world? HOW? Messi is better in every axpect of the game? So now go and actually do some arguments that is worth my time. Cos rn u just look braindead. And btw.i guess u first of all dont watch football and second off all agree with all of my other arguments. LMFAO HAGDTTHADJAHHAHHAHAHAHA
2018-04-13 07:45
#171
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Sweden Zolity 
This is why i dont wanna argue with u. U all ronaldo fans are braindead
2018-04-12 21:53
#195
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Estonia kikilips 
wow you really are that dumb, I wouldnt be surprised if you made that website :D Noxer* - well explained but dont even bother, the person is not understanding even the basics of comparsion between player, just dont reply to him. now go put your bayern/liverp/sevilla shirt on because in few weeks you will be cheering for them as you did for juventus
2018-04-13 07:58
#255
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Portugal noxer* 
+1 he is a retarded messi fanboy
2018-04-14 00:47
you both are respectively x)
2018-04-15 20:45
#195
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Estonia kikilips 
wow you really are that dumb, I wouldnt be surprised if you made that website :D Noxer* - well explained but dont even bother, the person is not understanding even the basics of comparsion between player, just dont reply to him. now go put your bayern/liverp/sevilla shirt on because in few weeks you will be cheering for them as you did for juventus
2018-04-13 07:58
#198
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Sweden Zolity 
hahahahahhahahhahahaa
2018-04-13 09:11
Are you also impartial to the fact that Messi has a different role and creates almost every situation for his team and that Ronaldo has his team set him up every time to score? If secondary assists counted Messi would be crushing Ronaldo more than he is with his regular assists.
2018-04-14 21:51
#379
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Portugal noxer* 
Im impartial to the fact Ronaldo has more than the double of messis goals on UCL and the same number as the entire barcelona team while having the same number of assists as messi and having harder opponents overall than messi
2018-04-14 22:12
Ah so you are a troll actually. I thought you were up for a debate. Have a nice day!
2018-04-14 22:16
#393
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Portugal noxer* 
Not trolling, just coming up with facts messi fanboys cant deal with.
2018-04-15 06:35
I agree with him, I dont see messi scoring during the big matches ??????
2018-04-13 06:04
#197
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Sweden Zolity 
he does, check the sats
2018-04-13 09:11
#270
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Portugal noxer* 
Champions League Quarterfinal to Final Goals, last 7 seasons: Cristiano Ronaldo (30) Lewandowski (10) Muller (9) Neymar (8) Mandzukic (7) Robben, Suarez (6) Benzema, Sergio Ramos, Griezmann, Messi (5) Here are the statistics, Sergio Ramos has as many goals as messi in the playoffs of the UCL, where the competition get's tighter and the matches are harder :((. Ronaldo has 6(!) times more goals than messi :o
2018-04-14 01:13
#286
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Sweden Zolity 
Well Ronaldo has played many more games aswell?
2018-04-14 12:12
#355
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Portugal noxer* 
LOL obviously if you dont play many games on UCL you suck. It means you get knocked out LUL. Messi is shit compared to Ronaldo
2018-04-14 17:56
#362
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Sweden Zolity 
it doesn't mean u suck? Hes better than ronaldo, check the stats. Btw recked u in our argument earlier LMFAO
2018-04-14 21:53
#373
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Portugal noxer* 
You got completly destroyed, but i understand that you dont realize it as you lack any rational abilities. Just so you know, your brain is only comparable to the one's of a 6 years old boy with moderate levels of autism.
2018-04-14 22:04
#375
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Sweden Zolity 
hahahahahaha u couldn't even make an argument without me recking u. lmao grow up and use ur brain
2018-04-14 22:06
#364
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Sweden Zolity 
Btw source? Cos i found that messi has done 30 goals in ucl since 2010. No that NOT true hahahahahaha. Lol ronaldo fanboys has to make up stats to make them look good
2018-04-14 21:59
#378
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Portugal noxer* 
Whoscored.com? Lol. I bet you dont aknowledge the site as legit as well because you do anything to keep sucking messis dick
2018-04-14 22:09
#381
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Sweden Zolity 
Well he has scored more than that and i counted? Count youself
2018-04-14 22:14
#382
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Sweden Zolity 
HAHAHHA AND I AM SUCKING MESSIS DICK? UR +1 EVERY> RONALDO FANBOY WHO SAYS HES BETTER LMFAO
2018-04-14 22:14
#256
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Portugal noxer* 
he chokes :(
2018-04-14 00:48
#268
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Portugal noxer* 
:delete:
2018-04-14 01:12
#269
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Portugal noxer* 
Champions League Quarterfinal to Final Goals, last 7 seasons: Cristiano Ronaldo (30) Lewandowski (10) Muller (9) Neymar (8) Mandzukic (7) Robben, Suarez (6) Benzema, Sergio Ramos, Griezmann, Messi (5)
2018-04-14 01:11
#287
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Sweden Zolity 
Ronaldo took 144 games to reach 100 goals; Messi 123. GOALS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Messi - 100 in 124 (0.81); Cristiano - 119 in 154 (0.77).
2018-04-14 12:16
#357
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Portugal noxer* 
Good to see you keep making the same mistake on your "arguments", using Ronaldo stats from Man u days when he was a winger. You are utterly retarded.
2018-04-14 17:58
#365
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Sweden Zolity 
Btw source? Cos i found that messi has done 30 goals in ucl since 2010. No that NOT true hahahahahaha. Lol ronaldo fanboys has to make up stats to make them look good. BTW MESSI IS PLAYING IN THE MIDFIELD MORE THAN RONALDO HAS BEEN A WINGER. WATCH FOOTBALL AND U WOULD UNDERSTAND
2018-04-14 21:59
can confirm, messi is goat
2018-04-12 17:43
#140
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 17:44
no chances for Penaldo
2018-04-12 17:52
#149
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Sweden Zolity 
Penaldooooo
2018-04-12 18:51
its true.. messi > ronaldo. look what teammates ronaldo have at real... and messi have to play with teammates like busquets (LOL), roberto. iniesta has its best days already. yes both on the same level but in the end its messi > ronaldo.
2018-04-12 17:58
#148
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 18:51
#155
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Portugal noxer* 
Yeah, Coutinho, Suarez, Iniesta, Pique, Dembele, Rakitic, he is so unlucky :(
2018-04-12 19:09
dude.. bale>suarez, isco>roberto, modric>rakitic, casemeiro>busquets, kroos=iniesta. and the defense even more real>barca. so yes he is unlucky compared to cr7 :>
2018-04-12 20:07
You can't compare almost all of the players you've just mentioned. Bale is a winger, Suarez a box player. Isco is a playmaker, Sergi Roberto is a CM/CDM. Modric and Rakitic are basically the same, I'd personally say Modric might have better qualities overall than Rakitic, but Rakitic scores goals more often. Casemiro is a more physical/aggressive player than Busquets, but I wouldn't say that makes him better. Just look at what Busquets has done, with the team he has been with :) Iniesta is a playmaker, Kroos has always been a CM, though he has always been aggressive. Pique = Ramos. Don't get me started on Varane. I think it's fair to conclude you're either 1) An autistic kiddo 2) Retarded and biased. Have a good day, young one :)
2018-04-13 09:48
why you feel so offended penaldo fanboy? :D i just compared the starting lineups 1:1 from the last game. even players have different play styles and tactical role, u can still compare them overall. so have a skilled day you lowbrain.
2018-04-13 09:59
The last thing I'd be is a Real supporter or Ronaldo fanboy for that matter. I can honestly not tell if you're trolling or you're braindead. You can't compare players the way you do, your logic is flawed son. It's like me saying I'm a much better cs player than you, because I'm top50 in EU on FACEIT. It's quite dumb, isn't it? *Winky face*
2018-04-13 10:15
Busquets is top3 midfielders in world
2018-04-15 01:39
Messi the GOAT! Anyone who says the opposite doesn't love football! You must be blind as fuck if you think C. Ronaldo is better than him. Anyway just wait for the WC and next Season, Messi will destroy all your clueless bots feelings who think C. Ronaldo is better.
2018-04-12 20:16
#170
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Sweden Zolity 
This^ +1
2018-04-12 21:52
Numbers do not lie...
2018-04-12 22:15
#179
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-12 23:12
messivsronaldo.net/records/ exactly Ronaldo is better
2018-04-14 13:59
#184
draken | 
Poland xavist 
You only did that topic because Messi is out of UCL and Ronaldo is still in xD. BTW. both Ronald and Messi are one's of the best football players ever, you shouldn't compare them.
2018-04-12 23:19
#206
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Sweden Zolity 
No i didn't. I saw a "RONALDO GOAT" Thread and i thought that id make a "MESSI GOAT" Thread
2018-04-13 09:56
#215
draken | 
Poland xavist 
fair enough, but like I said you should never compare them, because they are great players, both are one's of the best football players ever ;)
2018-04-13 16:01
#216
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Sweden Zolity 
aight :)
2018-04-13 17:29
#265
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-14 01:03
#187
mSx | 
France Xpens1ve 
You can't compare them! Simply because Messi is just from another planet. /close 4 ever !
2018-04-12 23:40
#205
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-13 09:56
Only retards or ppl that never played football are talking that ronaldo is better (they mostly are his fanboys because of his gay style/he is one of the most handsome guys in sport(no homo)) but he is like 3 levels below lionel /officialy closed by HLTV admin jonathan e.
2018-04-13 00:01
#204
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-13 09:55
Every legend says Messi better. The retards say Ronaldo is better. Stats clearly show Messi favours over ronaldo in most things
2018-04-13 09:17
#203
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Sweden Zolity 
Yeah every legend says that and still ronaldo fanboys dont get it lul
2018-04-13 09:55
#228
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Portugal noxer* 
2018-04-13 21:04
#230
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Sweden Zolity 
2018-04-13 21:11
#234
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Sweden Zolity 
First of all, pele meant that Ronaldo has had a better season than Ronaldo THAT SEASON. And do u really believe i site thats not even safe. LMAO Pele said in my vid that messi si better OF ALL TIME :))
2018-04-13 21:15
#235
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Portugal noxer* 
Season? or 3 years like he said? LOL. Goal.com is not safe (you mean legit)? Okey, I'm done with you, you clearly do not know shit about football.
2018-04-13 21:16
#238
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Sweden Zolity 
Well he said the last 15 years on my vid? And i was kidding goal.com lmao. But can u dinf a vid where maradona says that ronaldo is better than messo of all time? didn't think so
2018-04-13 21:18
#240
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Portugal noxer* 
Then Pele was drunk because messi being 30 now, 29 by the time of the video, means he is the best player in the world since he is 14 years old. Pele clearly got it wrong as English is not his main language. I dont need to, goal is a legit site, even if you don't believe it is.
2018-04-13 22:16
#242
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Sweden Zolity 
I knwo goal is legit, but i dont think that the article is real. Btw pretty much 80 percent of legends say messi is better
2018-04-13 22:17
#244
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Portugal noxer* 
Just as sure as you were ALL legends say messi is better than Ronaldo. You don't think the article is real it's your fault. Its a legit source.
2018-04-13 22:26
#281
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Sweden Zolity 
Here's some legends (many) that says that Messi is better: youtube.com/watch?v=79xxFMrEVcg Btw i said 80 percent in my last comment. And those who dont have played with Ronaldo, is feom portugal etc etc.
2018-04-14 12:05
#201
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Finland Nairouuu 
Messi is better... The only reason rm got through was the ref
2018-04-13 09:50
#202
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Sweden Zolity 
yeah that fkn penalty
2018-04-13 09:54
#213
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Russia goodjob 
100% penalty lol..
2018-04-13 12:23
#225
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Sweden Zolity 
No lmao he jumped
2018-04-13 19:23
#229
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Russia goodjob 
what?
2018-04-13 21:09
#231
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Sweden Zolity 
my bad missread ur comment lmao
2018-04-13 21:12
#239
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Latvia mosquito1881 
Loool. It was a penalty, that defender was retarded to do that in box and buffon could go for the ball. Instead he fucking jumps from the back and makes contact with his hand in vasquezs back and his foot in his armpit great job retard. Clear penalty every time of the day
2018-04-13 21:32
Never seen such a one sided article LOL messi fans sucking dick once again
2018-04-13 10:01
#210
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Sweden Zolity 
How is it one sided? Pls tell me
2018-04-13 12:16
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out Messi is better
2018-04-13 23:59
#264
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-14 01:02
#273
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
facts are one sided lol nice one autist
2018-04-14 01:19
Cristiano Ronaldo > LULnel Messi
2018-04-13 12:18
#218
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Sweden Zolity 
nah bro, check the stats ;))
2018-04-13 17:30
Nah bro, Ronaldo > Messi. Dont be delusional and open your eyes
2018-04-13 17:37
#223
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Sweden Zolity 
Open ur eyes and watch the facts
2018-04-13 18:53
That messi is worse?
2018-04-13 20:37
Stats clearly show Messi is better and in most aspects of his skills and game knowledge he is
2018-04-14 00:00
#263
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-14 01:02
#214
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Faboys will ignore facts, that's why they're fanboys. I mean, if you come to me and say "Ronaldo is Better than Messi change my mind" i'm just going to ignore you as you can't change the mind of someone who can't use a brain.
2018-04-13 12:28
#217
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Sweden Zolity 
LUL +1
2018-04-13 17:29
Because ur Argentinian ? So obviously you will overrate Messi
2018-04-13 17:37
#222
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
I'm not overrating, i'm looking at this facts and i agree with the final conclusion that Messi is clearly the greatest of all time. Not that it matters, Ronaldo will always have a spot on the second place... (The brazilian one ofc)
2018-04-13 18:18
#224
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Sweden Zolity 
+1 LUL
2018-04-13 19:23
Lul delusional kid. Portuguese Ronaldo 2nd greatest of all time. The best player of all time is pele LMAO delusional Argentinean
2018-04-13 20:37
#232
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Sweden Zolity 
How old are u? Lmao u cant be so old
2018-04-13 21:13
I'm old enough to know that Ronaldo is better - team wise, internationally and club wise. 90% of people who say Messi is the GOAT are 8-14 year olds who play FIFA for whole day and only know two clubs Real Madrid and Fc Barcelona and wouldn't tell you 80% of both teams lineups. Anyways. I think the argument who is better is healthy for football and it spices up the El classico matches. You have your opinion I have mine which means we look at football differently and we have different preferences. Have a good day
2018-04-13 22:30
#283
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Sweden Zolity 
Are u stupid? 90 percent? Watch this from the beginning then: youtube.com/watch?v=j9u1Uj5CPmg&t=291s Btw i not gonna reply to u anymore cos u dumb af or trolling
2018-04-14 12:07
youtube.com/watch?v=5BgCna_fW0A ?? and Ronaldo is 3 years older and is still better than Messi imo. Stop wasting my time please.
2018-04-14 12:38
#290
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Sweden Zolity 
Show me a video of people saying ronaldo i the best ever? Oh wait u cant LMAO. And i swear u are gonna stop replying to me rn cos u cant find a vid
2018-04-14 12:41
Well messi isnt the best ever either. Its pele by far
2018-04-14 13:30
#296
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Sweden Zolity 
Than why does so many people say so? And why is he the best ever when defenders back then were SO bad? But go and show me a vid of people saying ronaldo or pele is the best ever just like i did but with messi?
2018-04-14 13:41
3x time world champion - Pele 1x European champion - Ronaldo What does messi have ? 1 final ? With a great argentinian team ? I guess world cup U20 is just good enough ? LMAO
2018-04-14 13:57
#313
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Sweden Zolity 
Well pele's brazil was so much better than any team. They were so much better than any other team back than. But even if pele would play the game now he wouldn't stand a chance. And ronaldo's european champion thing is soo overrated. What good teams did they play? France, thats it. Messi SINGLE HANDEDLY got argentina to the final. As u can see on the stats argentinas win rate without messi is 19 percent. So how tf is he supposed to win anything with that team? So i dont think its a "Great argentinian team" LUL. Pls use good arguments, thanks. Btw heres a vid with more saying he's the best ever: youtube.com/watch?v=79xxFMrEVcg&t
2018-04-14 14:12
Oh it's pele's fault that they were better than everyone else hmm. And yeah now say that European cup is overrated and its bad lol i understand that messi never won anything imporant internationally so you have to make Ronaldo's achievments look worse with a much weaker nation of players and again Messi always had better teammates in his international team and there is no question about it. btw : youtube.com/watch?v=-mFOj3Vfm1A
2018-04-14 14:49
#320
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Sweden Zolity 
I dont know whats so hard to understand? Argentina's win rate without Messi: 12 percent. with messi: 72 percent. AND MESSI TOOK ARGENTINA TO THE WORLD CUP FINAL? So pls, how is portugal a "Much waker nation" When argnetina's win rate without messi is 19 percent? SO NO HE DOESN'T HAVE BETTER TEAMMATES? WHATS UR IQ? 8? Pls grow up. And pls make some arguments against my arguments. Cos if u dont (Which u hav'en) I guess u agree with everything i said. And btw pele was playing when defenders was shit. Like i mean when u watch a vid from him then u just lauch at the defenders cos they are so bad LMAO
2018-04-14 14:58
#325
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Sweden Zolity 
Heres a 2 hour vid: youtube.com/watch?v=U84RJlZyqIw Lmao i swear ur not even gonna reply cos u know that i won the argument LMFAO
2018-04-14 15:06
You never won any argument. You won by your standarts because you think you were right (LOL) i said that argentina has much better players besides messi compared to Portugal without Ronaldo. #2 In peles era there were great defenders like : John Charles, Marius Tresor,Berti Vogts,Ruud Krol,Franz Beckenbauer,Bobby Moore but you are delusional and you probably never heard of these guys if anything Pele is the goat and Ronaldo is #2. Have a nice day delusional kid that has 0 knowledge of football history and judges players by today's events lmao
2018-04-14 16:37
#360
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Sweden Zolity 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
2018-04-14 21:44
HAHAHAHA because 0 arguments from messi fanboy
2018-04-15 12:34
#398
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Sweden Zolity 
Ok look. if i have'nt won any argument of mine why haven't u made an argument against it? If u dont then i have won the argument? So go and do some arguments against my arguments. Btw go watch some football
2018-04-15 13:50
I watch plenty of football but you ? Hah not so much as i see. Go and educate yourself.
2018-04-15 13:52
#400
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Sweden Zolity 
Thats ont an argument. Say an argument agasint my arguments earlier. And btw i watch football all the time. If u watch a barca game u know that messi is better
2018-04-15 13:52
You are telling me that i made no good arguments, well same can be said about you. And yes i do watch football and messi isn't better.
2018-04-15 13:56
#402
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Sweden Zolity 
Make arguments AGAINST MY ARGUMENTS. CAN U READ ENGLISH? Ive already debunked all of ur argumets and u haven't even debunked one of mine. SO DO IT? Otherwhise i won this argument LOL.
2018-04-15 14:02
You didn't debunk any of mine either. And you didn't win anything because Ronaldo has better stats, more trophies and has an international trophy. You didn't win a single arument here and you just look like a messi dickrider tbh.
2018-04-15 14:04
#406
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Sweden Zolity 
If u can read than u can see that i did debunk ur argument. And u haven't debunked any of mine. So u are looking really stupid rn
2018-04-15 15:22
#427
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Sweden Zolity 
Gave up now cos u know u lost? LUL
2018-04-15 21:11
Lost what?
2018-04-16 07:03
#236
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-13 21:17
#241
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Who gives a shit about Pele tho, it's not 1970 bruh, it's 2018. Delusional random colors flag.
2018-04-13 22:17
Him after 40 years people like you won't talk about Messi anyway. No logic in your argument
2018-04-13 22:25
#249
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Him after 40 years people like you won't talk about Messi anyway. No logic in your argument Englando pls. There's logic in my comment as it's not relevant to the topic how football used to be played in Pele's times compared to nowadays, in 40 years we may have another guy even better than Messi and we'll talk about him as the greatest of all time. The greatest of all time doesn't need to be someone 80 years old, unluko for you that you're a hater of the greatest individual soccer football player of all time.
2018-04-13 23:32
#308
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Sweden Zolity 
2018-04-14 13:49
2018-04-14 13:58
#314
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Sweden Zolity 
Well he played for 3 different teams? ffs dude stop trolling. btw heres a better vid: youtube.com/watch?v=79xxFMrEVcg&t
2018-04-14 14:13
Oh now it's Ronaldo's fault that he got transfered 2 times lol. also greatest of all time but 8 minutes lmao? !!! Ronaldo is the Goat and if Ronaldo is not the goat then the only player that can say he is the greatest of all time is Pele : youtube.com/watch?v=-mFOj3Vfm1A
2018-04-14 14:46
#318
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Sweden Zolity 
All i wanted u to watch was the beginning of what all of the players/legends says about him. Pretty much all the players/legends says and knows that messi is better. And thats a fact. Ant btw just check the stats i linked. That simply shows u. And pele? AHHAHAHAHA. Btw one hour video of highlights from his whole career? Then watch this 2 HOUR and 25 MIN vid from 1 SEASON: youtube.com/watch?v=9C3NL3DImNg
2018-04-14 14:53
2 hours ? its actually 1 hour so it just proves my point that messi fans are uneducated. Ronaldo > Messi /closed
2018-04-14 14:56
#321
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Sweden Zolity 
1 hour* Missclick. hahaha so yeah a missclick proves ur point? LMAO. Then i can make an argument that says that real madrid fans is uneducated and just bring up every typo in u text? Lmao how dumb is ronaldo fans hahahahaha
2018-04-14 15:00
#322
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Sweden Zolity 
Btw heres a 2 HOUR 17 MINS VID OF 1 SEASON! youtube.com/watch?v=U84RJlZyqIw
2018-04-14 15:02
youtube.com/watch?v=6SQ_8WCRoIk BTW Barcelona blew a 4-1 lead LMAO
2018-04-14 15:15
#328
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Sweden Zolity 
Are u gonna make some arguments or just show me some shit video? I can show hundreds of videos. BUT JUST LOOK AT THE STATS? MESSI IS BETTER AT EVERYTHING. Btw that ducumentary was just about him scoring goals and being good in real madrid. Nothing about the greatest of all time. Btw SAY SOME ARGUMENTS! If u dont than u have lost lol. 9iq brain. Btw if u wanna watch some magic watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=j9u1Uj5CPmg&t=
2018-04-14 15:26
#335
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Sweden Zolity 
I guess i won the argument ;)
2018-04-14 16:10
#455
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Sweden Zolity 
hahahahahha gave up?
2018-04-16 19:15
I gave up on an idea that you have any sort of knowledge.
2018-04-16 19:15
#462
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Sweden Zolity 
Hahahaha well. I have been asking u to do an argument agasint my argument. And u haven't anwsered in suuuch a long time. So go ahead and do that. Btw i have no knowledge? How come i have recked u at everything i said? So IF im stupid, prove it
2018-04-16 19:28
#1 you are delusional #2 you had no real arguments against mine #3 im not tied to you so i don't have to respond to every dumb comment you make #4 you are wasting my time since all i proved that Ronaldo > Messi but since you are Messi fanboy nothing can change your mind.
2018-04-16 19:47
#479
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Sweden Zolity 
1. Wtf hahahahah. U are muuch worse. 2. I have had arguments. And i have debunked pretty much al of yours. So learn to read. 3. Hahhahahahah 4. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
2018-04-16 20:21
#480
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Sweden Zolity 
Well if ronalod i sbetter than him, WHY DOES THE STATS SAY OTHERWISE? WHY? ANSWER!
2018-04-16 20:22
Records ? Titles ? oh, to your muhammad ass that probably is irellevant. Plus Messi always had an easy road since he was in barca since a kid and Ronaldo still achieved more and is better with a harder path. Ronaldo > Messi until Messi surpasses Ronald which might happen in the future but not now
2018-04-16 20:23
#484
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Sweden Zolity 
Thats not an answer. TELL ME WHY? Btw ronalod is 3 years older. So ofc he will have more records than messi. And btw, Messi is close breaking plenty aswell
2018-04-16 20:25
Why ? He is probably the only reliable scorer in Real Madrid even at age 33 he competes with the best players in the world and seems to not slow down sure Messi might be just better but after 30 years old athletes seem to decrease a lot. Dont get me wrong Messi is amazing but they are 3 years apart and they are so different that comparing them is stupid. So here my first mistake i tried to compare them but they are different and both are masters in their each way that's why opinions are different for many people because of that.
2018-04-16 20:32
#488
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Sweden Zolity 
Decrese? Yeah thats why he has soo much better stats than him. But why would u now compare them? The two best players in the world playing the the best teams in the world in the sae league in rival clubs. Even tho messi has been playing in the midfield the last seasons he has still been puttinf up the same/betetr results than ronaldo i still think that comparing them is neutral
2018-04-16 21:14
Well Ronaldo and Messi are once in the lifetime talents so even 33 years old for Ronaldo as you see isn't as bad, but he won't be better and won't improve from now as for Messi he might get even better but 28 years old athlete is statistically the best version of himself. Sure i understand your argument that Ronaldo and Messi are in rival teams and are both main players but as i said they are so different from each other that it's hard to compere two. Personally i think Ronaldo is more valuable to Real than Messi is to Barca atm. Real have no real consistent goal scorer except for Ronaldo and he does that job perfectly and Messi has a bit more freedom and with that he can set up his team. Ronaldo did it in the past but roles changed and such.
2018-04-16 21:43
#499
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Sweden Zolity 
Well messi does everything for barca. Goals, assists, thrrough balls, EVERYTHING. So how tf is ronaldo more valuable then messi? I dint get that. And if that doesn't prve a point then why has messi scored more goals and assists, more dribbles completed, MUCH more chances created ANDjust does much more for the team. Yeah sure madrid doesn't really have a suarez in the team but Messi is still mor valuable. :)
2018-04-16 21:47
Same goes for Ronaldo. Their attacking force is way worse and Ronaldo is the best scorer in Madrid yet Messi has arguably the best striker in the world alongside him so it easier to get those stats and even then Ronaldo on goals is just as good. You said Messi is playing closer to midfield and then you say he has more assists than Ronaldo. Well of course every player will be like that. Both are playing different positions. Ronaldo was moved away from the "creating and passing" part since they had no reliable scorers on Real. So he was moved into pure goal scoring role and guess what he is just as good if not better than his old "playmaking" type. Messi is only more valuable because he is 30 years old compared to 33 years of Ronaldo but Ronaldo honestly is more needed to Madrid than Messi is for barca
2018-04-17 06:19
#524
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Sweden Zolity 
But messi is still scoring more goals, more assists and everytihing else i said. Even tho they have suarez i still think that messi would easily make the goals happen or score them himself.
2018-04-17 07:27
He could, but even when you are Messi you should use a player like Suarez to his full potential and just on strikes and pure shots Suarez can be #1 or #2 he is just that deadly as a striker. And Ronaldo is scoring a lot of goals and is just crazy in Champions League so i don't think that Messi is close to that and in 2018 Messi isn't close to Ronaldo's production 2018 stats : CLUB stats: Messi 23apps,9assists,20goals Ronaldo: 16apps,6assists,25goals. So Messi only has 2 more assists with 7 more games + he is 3 years older.
2018-04-17 08:24
#237
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Ukraine bleckvat 
lol
2018-04-13 21:19
#246
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2018-04-13 22:31
#307
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Sweden Zolity 
+2
2018-04-14 13:48
Only Real Madrid fans and Portuguese people think C. Ronaldo is better.
2018-04-14 00:02
messi wouldnt be as succesful if he wasnt at barcalona. Ronaldo and Messi are the best to ever play the game, and depending on form is the only thing that sperates them Ronaldo is a better goal scorer.Messi is a better creator.Pick your style :)
2018-04-14 00:17
Barcelona is basically just Messi. The team is utter shit. It used to be the best team of all time in 2010-12, but those days are gone. Xavi is gone, Iniesta is like 34, Suarez is old, Pique is old. Messi should leave this shit team asap.
2018-04-14 12:59
#260
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Portugal noxer* 
I disagree. Ronaldo > Messi. And so does Maradona and Pele: sport.net/Pictures/maradona-says-ronaldo.. youtube.com/watch?v=w_h0c_f4woQ
2018-04-14 01:01
#298
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Sweden Zolity 
2018-04-14 13:43
#306
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Sweden Zolity 
Yup, ever legend says that he is the best ever aswell. youtube.com/watch?v=dzjpUQTWc20&t= EVEN Pele and Maradona
2018-04-14 13:48
messivsronaldo.net/records/ Well ronaldo is better so they are thinking correctly
2018-04-14 13:59
+1
2018-04-19 19:39
why do people still hype up messi? kid been playing garbage, on the other hand ronaldo is performing like a beast. ronaldo best messi who?
2018-04-14 00:50
#261
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-14 01:01
#304
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Sweden Zolity 
Did u check the stats? And HOW is he playing bad when he is probably gonna win the golden boot? And Ronalod ISN'T? AND HOW has Messi 12 assists and ronaldo has 5? So yeah messi has indeed been playing garbage LOL. LMAO ronaldo fanboys
2018-04-14 13:46
#303
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Sweden Zolity 
Did u check the stats? And HOW is he playing bad when he is probably gonna win the golden boot? And Ronalod ISN'T? AND HOW has Messi 12 assists and ronaldo has 5? So yeah messi has indeed been playing garbage LOL. LMAO ronaldo fanboys
2018-04-14 13:46
he is not gonna win the golden booth ronaldo is lol, im not a fanboy ronaldo is cocky af yet not gonna take away from him he has been much better than messi this season. just accept it.
2018-04-14 15:02
#324
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Sweden Zolity 
Ronalod has 46 points and Messi and Salah has 58. So no he's not gonna win it lol. Pls search up facts before posting them
2018-04-14 15:03
"he has been much better than messi this season." ahaha what a retard
2018-04-15 20:04
its true lmfao calling me a retard while i did actually looked up stats for this season. go look for yourself dumbass
2018-04-16 14:33
#465
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Sweden Zolity 
How did u look up the stats? Messi has sooo much better stats this year. And btw ronaldo isn't even close to winning the golden boot and messi has the most points tied with salah? Lmao just a normal ronaldo fanboy who cant accept facts
2018-04-16 19:34
says the messi fanboy, i dont even like ronaldo or messi. im neutral, get off your high horse. i dont care much abouth la liga with half of the teams being crap. ronaldo shows in the champions league he is far better than messi in big games this year.
2018-04-16 19:37
#467
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Sweden Zolity 
AHAHAHHAHAHAHA
2018-04-16 19:37
2018-04-16 19:39
#461
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Brazil wAc 
90% of messi goals are against the worse teams of la liga. cr7 is way more decisive in big games
2018-04-16 19:26
#464
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Sweden Zolity 
Well lets see here. He has been scoring 27 times in 35 appearances against Atletico Madrid and 25 goals in 37 games against Real Madrid. AND 29 goals in his 31 games in all competitions throughout his career vs Sevilla. Those are the teams he has scored the most goals. SO HOW IS THAT BAD TEAMS? Lmao and he has muuuuch more goals against the good international teams, which ronaldo hasn't scored much against
2018-04-16 19:32
#474
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Brazil wAc 
im talking about this season, not carreer
2018-04-16 19:58
#481
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Sweden Zolity 
Lol still not true
2018-04-16 20:22
#258
fnx | 
Bulgaria goatse 
all these kids thinking messi is better than ronaldo =D
2018-04-14 00:52
#262
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Portugal noxer* 
+1 lmao
2018-04-14 01:01
#301
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Sweden Zolity 
Kids? Watch this then: youtube.com/watch?v=dzjpUQTWc20&t= And stats dont lie aswell?
2018-04-14 13:43
#300
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Sweden Zolity 
Kids? Watch this then: youtube.com/watch?v=dzjpUQTWc20&t= And stats dont lie aswell?
2018-04-14 13:43
#272
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
+1 any ronaldo who still denies is a biased retard or didnt read the article.
2018-04-14 01:15
#297
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-14 13:41
We will see at WC who´s the best
2018-04-14 12:06
LOL. 3-7 games will decide who is better on what? 200-300 game career?
2018-04-14 13:43
#329
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Ronaldo has over 900 games played already where you got 200-300 game career from?
2018-04-14 15:30
900? I bet he has even more if you count all games. Id bet 200-300 top tier matches.
2018-04-14 15:40
#288
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Greece Theabsolute 
One of the shittiest posts i ve ever read.Thats all
2018-04-14 12:20
#372
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Sweden Zolity 
Why? Mad cos of truth?
2018-04-14 22:04
#588
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Sweden Zolity 
huh?
2018-04-19 19:37
penaldo all the way bruh
2018-04-14 13:44
#353
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-14 17:52
CR is a beast striker Messi is a whole field player, playmaker, with huge numbers in goals and assists, with cleary most gamesense and humble xd Just pick
2018-04-14 13:47
#377
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Sweden Zolity 
AND is a better goal scorer (Better goal per game ratio)
2018-04-14 22:08
Simple as that
2018-04-14 22:50
#386
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Sweden Zolity 
yup
2018-04-15 00:03
people still don't see the difference between Ronaldo and Messi Messi is liek a hybrid between winger and midfield player that likes to go back for the ball and create an action Ronaldo is a striker (but not a typical 9 like Suarez or Lewy) that likes to run wide on the wing if he can, he's much stronger and much taller which makes him a different type of player
2018-04-14 14:18
+1 but messi is simply a player of pure talent and he is naturally good at football, however ronaldo on the other hand had to work very hard to get to where he is so the debate between who is better ronaldo or messi for me doesn't matter because we are so lucky we can watch these two legendary football players
2018-04-16 17:46
#327
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Germany ohlolol 
messi better then ronaldo ? hhahaha is this a joke ? messi is awesome but ronaldo is better get over it messi fanboys.
2018-04-14 15:16
#351
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Portugal noxer* 
+ 1 lmao
2018-04-14 17:52
#370
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Sweden Zolity 
Look at the stats i posted ;))
2018-04-14 22:03
#413
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Portugal Zedonp 
Crap stats made by barcelona fangays that are not even accurate.Go to wikipedia or any non baised page and check Ronaldo's trophys, how bad is messi that you need to take trophys away from Ronaldo so messi wins and looks better? And go check his stats in RM vs messi stats in Barca and you will see Ronaldo has been much better ever since joining RM and much better then messi as well.
2018-04-15 17:09
#419
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Sweden Zolity 
No i searched up some stats and they were right. Lmao ronaldo fanboy cant handle facts
2018-04-15 19:31
#428
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Portugal Zedonp 
Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid 2009– 308 289 1.07 onel Messi Barcelona 2004– 378 413 0.92 That's goals, games played and ratio in la liga Stop throwing crap out of your mouth
2018-04-15 21:34
#442
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Sweden Zolity 
Well messi played for bercelona since he was like 16? So ofc ronaldo is gonna have a better ratio since messi's 2004 LMFAO. Here's some good stats: ALL GOALS: Messi - 604 in 751 (0.8); Cristiano - 649 in 902 (0.72). CLUB GOALS: Messi - 543 in 628 (0.86); Cristiano - 568 in 753 (0.75). INTERNATIONAL GOALS: Messi - 61 in 123 (0.5); Cristiano - 81 in 149 (0.54). LEAGUE GOALS: Messi - 375 in 411 (0.91); Cristiano - 394 in 509 (0.77). GOALS SINCE RONALDO'S MOVE TO SPAIN (LA LIGA): Messi - 463 (321); Cristiano - 445 (307). CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GOALS: Messi - 100 in 124 (0.81); Cristiano - 119 in 154 (0.77). OTHER (Copa del Rey, Spanish Supercup, FA Cup, League Cup, Community Shield, Club World Cup, UEFA Supercup): Messi - 68 in 93 (0.73); Cristiano - 54 in 89 (0,61). Messi has a better goalscoring ratio in every category except international goals, but what about when they were at their best, goalscoring wise? MOST GOALS IN A SEASON: Messi - 73 in 60 (1,22) (2011/12); Cristiano - 61 in 54 (1,12) (2014/15). MOST GOALS IN A CALENDAR YEAR: Messi - 91 in 69 (1,31) (2012); Cristiano - 69 in 59 (1,16) (2013).
2018-04-16 15:40
#469
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Portugal Zedonp 
ahahah Ñt m8 but go to any unbiased website with stats and check the true stats
2018-04-16 19:44
#476
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Sweden Zolity 
I have. Do it urself
2018-04-16 20:18
#412
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Portugal Zedonp 
+1
2018-04-15 17:06
#330
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
TBF Ronaldo has titles in the English Premier league and La Liga, he's way better in the champions league (Ronaldo is the best UCL player of all time), Ronaldo is also better internationally (with a worse team Portugal doesn't have the star potential that Argentina does) but Messi is better in LA Liga, therefore imo Ronaldo is better overall based on achievements, goal scoring and playing better and being more impactful in higher levels of competitions, Messi is better than Ronaldo in league play LA Liga only. If we try to apply this type of logic to make it more relatable to CS Go simply put Ronaldo is better on LAN (tier 1) and Messi is better Online (tier 1-2).
2018-04-14 15:43
#341
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Argebtina has star potential Say that again Hahahahaha Argentina winrates against anyone: With Messi - 72%; Without Messi - 19%. Read this article and you'll see the better peformer for their international team, which is without a doubt Messi, Ronaldo didnt do shit in the Portugal Euro cup win, had a really average tournament and didnt play in the final. Look up their world cup stats. Haha funny that you say ronaldo does more on jigh tier competition when the countries he scored the most against are Sweden and Andorra, Latvia and Armenia while Messi's are Brazil, Urugay and Chile. Oh and not like Messi never scored in high tier europe games. Not that his goals, the deciders won Barca two champion leagues how the fuck can a non biased mind say Ronaldo is more impactful Barcelona: Most goals- Messi; Most assists- Messi; Most key passes- Messi; most succesfull takeons- Messi; most chances created- Messi. Real Madrid: Most goals- Ronaldo and thats it, his team contributes to the game a lot more than other Barca players compared to Messi Ronaldo is just a goal scoring machine but if you think thats how the best player is valued u know nothing about football.
2018-04-14 16:38
#352
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-14 17:52
#369
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Sweden Zolity 
Argebtina has star potential Say that again Hahahahaha Argentina winrates against anyone: With Messi - 72%; Without Messi - 19%. Read this article and you'll see the better peformer for their international team, which is without a doubt Messi, Ronaldo didnt do shit in the Portugal Euro cup win, had a really average tournament and didnt play in the final. Look up their world cup stats. Haha funny that you say ronaldo does more on jigh tier competition when the countries he scored the most against are Sweden and Andorra, Latvia and Armenia while Messi's are Brazil, Urugay and Chile. Oh and not like Messi never scored in high tier europe games. Not that his goals, the deciders won Barca two champion leagues how the fuck can a non biased mind say Ronaldo is more impactful Barcelona: Most goals- Messi; Most assists- Messi; Most key passes- Messi; most succesfull takeons- Messi; most chances created- Messi. Real Madrid: Most goals- Ronaldo and thats it, his team contributes to the game a lot more than other Barca players compared to Messi Ronaldo is just a goal scoring machine but if you think thats how the best player is valued u know nothing about football.
2018-04-14 22:02
#376
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Sweden Zolity 
they are at the same level at cl. Check the stats. LOL
2018-04-14 22:07
#388
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
You sure? Ronaldo longest goal streak in UCL history 11 games in a row Ronaldo most goals scored overall in UCL history Ronaldo most goals scored in a single UCL tournament.
2018-04-15 00:47
#389
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Sweden Zolity 
Look at the stats as i said. Both have 1.2 in goals and/or assists per game.
2018-04-15 01:12
#471
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Portugal Zedonp 
Same average but messi gets his on group stage agaisnt weak teams and then gets knowcked out Ronaldo goes all the way and scores agasint the best teams in the world. I might have the same average and kd as niko but you won't compare me to Niko cuz he plays agasint the best players in the world while i play agsint basement dwellers and silver elite players. Stats mean nothing withtout context and biased fake stats are ven worse when used for comparison
2018-04-16 19:47
#478
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Sweden Zolity 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
2018-04-16 20:20
#533
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Portugal Zedonp 
Nice argument. But it's ok most non retarded people prefer Ronaldo anyway. I
2018-04-17 18:18
#543
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Sweden Zolity 
Are u trolling?
2018-04-18 19:02
#470
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Portugal Zedonp 
They are on the samelevel and thats why Ronaldo alone has as many UCL as barelona. Lol
2018-04-16 19:45
#477
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Sweden Zolity 
Im saying th eplayers, not the team? LMAO. Btw if u dont think thats true check the stats i posted
2018-04-16 20:19
#532
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Portugal Zedonp 
One player is better then the whole barca team and u want to compare him to Messi. Lol
2018-04-17 18:17
RONALDO JUST SCORED 120TH GOAL IN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE IN 150 GAMES, NT WITH YOUR FAKE STATS NERD TRY AGAIN
2018-04-14 15:42
#333
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Ronaldo is better on Majors, Messi is better on qualifiers, Ronaldo is better individually (goal scorer), Messi is better team player (play maker).
2018-04-14 15:54
yeah i guess i am just happy to be alive and watch 2 greatest players ever...who knows when will another generation be this good , not in the next 10 years for sure
2018-04-14 15:56
#368
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Sweden Zolity 
But messi has better Goal per game ratio and better assist per game ratio
2018-04-14 22:02
ronaldo played in premier league before coming to spain closed
2018-04-15 14:15
#405
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Sweden Zolity 
And? Messi has been playing in the midfield the last years?
2018-04-15 15:19
#415
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Portugal Zedonp 
Overall he does but on la liga he is not even close and on UCL its far far behind Ronaldo. All messi has is 5 more years playing in barcelona while Ronaldo was playing in premiere league, lets not talk anymore kiddo
2018-04-15 17:12
#420
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Sweden Zolity 
IF U CHECK THE STATS I POSTED U CAN EASILY NOT SPEAK BS
2018-04-15 19:32
#421
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Portugal Zedonp 
Straight up bs
2018-04-15 20:02
#426
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Sweden Zolity 
SEARCH IT UP THEN? I did and it was right. Lmao normal ronaldo fanboy who cant accept the facts
2018-04-15 20:51
#429
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Portugal Zedonp 
I didn't create a website with wrong information and data you did. Accept the fact Ronaldo is better or get ready to cry once again, as you him lift puskas, UCL and balon d'or all in the same year.
2018-04-15 21:54
#380
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Messi is a better goalscorer. Messi's highest in a year was 91, while Ronaldo's only 69. Its just that he doesnt play the goalscorer anymore as he hasnt got good enough creators in the team to do as so. In the past he had Xavi and Iniesta. Ronaldo contributes much less to the team compared to Messi, Ronaldo has his teammates to feed him goals. Messi is literally Barcelona. Barcelona: Most goals- Messi; Most assists- Messi; Most key passes- Messi; most succesfull takeons- Messi; most chances created- Messi. Real Madrid: Most goals- Ronaldo and thats it, the rest is his team
2018-04-14 22:13
ronaldo is better the only problem people say messi is better because ronaldo is a bit selfish player but a better goal scorer it's my opinion for ronaldo
2018-04-16 17:41
#494
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
right now Ronaldo is a better goalscorer. And if youre looking for a number 9 i'd pick Ronaldo, and its definitely find you prefer him bc of that characteristic ( goalscorer ) But Messi is better overall, better in passing, creating attacks, assists etc
2018-04-16 21:35
#414
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Portugal Zedonp 
Lol thats why Ronaldo also is the record on assists in UCL. Face the fact, messi disapears against hard teams and on pressure games, Ronaldo just brings his A game and rapes everyone.
2018-04-15 17:10
#430
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
I think you replied wrong person tbh.
2018-04-15 22:14
#431
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Portugal Zedonp 
True. Trying to reply on my phone is straight up cancer.
2018-04-15 22:17
#432
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
All good.
2018-04-15 22:17
#495
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
yeah Messi dissapeared in all of the ucl big games even though he literally won Barca 2 finals by scoring deciders in ucl. Roma plays really well, Messi and Barca have a bad game and suddenly Messi is a choker?????????? I saw the choke in last two games agianst Real Madrid and Penaldo
2018-04-16 21:36
#354
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Portugal noxer* 
+1
2018-04-14 17:53
Cristiano Ronaldo is better.
2018-04-14 17:02
#367
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Sweden Zolity 
flag checks out
2018-04-14 22:00
Sweden manages to behave the whole ego of Zlatan?
2018-04-15 03:41
#394
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Sweden Zolity 
no, but every portugese person likes ronaldo pretty much.
2018-04-15 10:24
Bro u can't say that Messi is better than Ronaldo and Ronaldo is better than Messi, They both are the best players of all time, thats why they have 5 Ballon D'Or each other. I said that to just fire the post, they're both amazing.
2018-04-15 15:41
#409
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Sweden Zolity 
Nah, messi has much better stats so he is the better player. But u can like who ever u want :))
2018-04-15 16:18
#437
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Despite stats or whatever, Ronaldo has to many records that Messi will never be able to break, all his champions league records for example being the highest goal scorer of all time in UCL, longest goal streak of all time in UCL, most goals scored in a single UCL tournament etc. Also was successful in the EPL before his prime winning a ballon d'or there and EPL titles, also has success in International football and is the only reason Portugal are even relevant atm. Stats don't really trump achievements when the guy with the achievements has records in the highest level competition and just as amazing stats.
2018-04-16 14:29
#440
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Sweden Zolity 
Well messi has sooo many records too? And ronaldo is 3 years older aswell.
2018-04-16 15:37
#443
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
They both have many records but Ronaldo's records are in the UCL not in the fucking LA Liga that's the difference.
2018-04-16 16:23
#445
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Sweden Zolity 
Well he's 3 years older? Btw:GOALS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Messi - 100 in 124 (0.81); Cristiano - 119 in 154 (0.77). ASSISTS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Messi - 27 in 124 (0.21); Cristiano - 39 in 154 (0.25). GOALS + ASSISTS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Messi - 127 in 124 (1,02); Cristiano - 158 in 154 (1,02). HAT-TRICKS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Messi - 7; Cristiano - 7. But ofc ronaldo will have records in the ucl when he's 3 years older?
2018-04-16 17:22
#457
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Poland ToxoFox 
2 years older. And Messi wont be on same level at 33 as Ronaldo is right now. He is a machine, Messi is just gifted. Ronaldo will be on top for 2 next years at max, so will be Messi, the smaller you are the bigger chance of really bad injuires after 30 and Messi is already declining
2018-04-16 19:18
#463
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Sweden Zolity 
Is he declining? HAHAHAHAH. Thats why he has the most points to the golden boot (Tied with salah) And soooo many assists? Do u watch football?
2018-04-16 19:29
#498
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
you look for goals only in football????? You know nothing about football. Let me explain you some things. Messi isnt a typical goalscorer like Ronaldo. Messi was more of a goalscorer earlier in his carrer. He scored 91 fucking goals in a single 2012 year. Ronaldo's highest is only 69 in one year. Ever since Xavi retired and Iniesta started to decline he's been the main creator, he is 35x more valuable as a player compared to Ronaldo. Tho at this point of time if youre looking for solely a #9 you would choose Ronaldo. Messi is better in Ronaldo in literally every relevant aspect of the game ( and is now a little worse in goals, even though he was better when both were the goalscorers of their teams ( pre 2014 ) ) Messi outclasses ronaldo in passes, vision, assists, succesfull takeons, playmaking, dictating the game etc. put it his way Barcelona stats: Most goals- Messi; most assists- Messi; most key passes- Messi; most chances created- Messi; most sucessfull takeons- Messi Real Madrid stats: Most goals: Ronaldo and thats all ronaldo excels in. His team carries the other aspects of the game while Messi is literally everything in Barcelona
2018-04-16 21:44
#506
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Portugal noxer* 
Messi is so valuable he is unable to carry barcelona on champions league and Argentina to an international title. There goes your 35* more valuable
2018-04-16 23:19
#507
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
ARGENTINA'S WIN PERCENTAGE: With Messi - 72%; Without Messi - 19% The only player performing in Argentina, was the chosen the MVP OF WORLD CUP 2014 Ronaldo had a average euro winning campaign with Portugal, they managed to win the final without him as well. Messi achieved more invididually with Argentina than Ronaldo with Portugal. Moreover the countries Messi scored the most against are Brazil, Urugay, Paraguay and Chile while Ronaldo's are fucking andorra, Latvia, Armenia and Sweden. Other than that he carried Barcelona to 3 ucl championships in the past, not my fault that you have a goldfish memory.
2018-04-16 23:26
#508
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Portugal noxer* 
Nice copy past, where is Portugal win percentage with Ronaldo? Messi choking in big games since the begining. He simply sucks against better teams.
2018-04-16 23:27
#510
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
0/8 dismantling Real Madrid last 2 games against them with like 27 goals against them in total
2018-04-16 23:51
#511
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Portugal noxer* 
Yep, on La liga, you got to be honest with yourself. Ronaldo winning this champions league will have as UCL titles as the Barcelona team in their entire history. Also, He has more than the double of messi goal's while just the same number of assists as him on UCL
2018-04-17 00:35
#512
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Messi has more goals per match in UCL, check the stats, and he isnt even a goalscorer. Thats just this season in UCL
2018-04-17 00:39
#513
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Portugal noxer* 
omfg, I can't believe I'm saying this again. HE SURE DOES, Ronaldo played for Man U and SCP being a winger! A FUCKING WINGER, lmao, adding up those games for the stats is utterly insane!. Also his record on the knockout phase in untouchable. Messi will never have that ammount of goals/game on the playoffs as he sucks on the big games.
2018-04-17 00:47
#515
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
u cant say he sucks in big games thats just wrong. Remember him scoring two deciders in ucl finals in 2009 and 2011. I remember him dismantling Bayern in 2015 in the semifinal ( they won the cup ) with that twister goal onto boateng and lob against Neuer. I remember him dismantling Real Madrid in the 2011 semifinal with one of the most beautiful solo goals of all time. And scoring two in the second leg comeback against Milan after being down 2-0 in the first. Youre simply wrong. Barca had a bad game, Roma played fenomenaly and shut down Messi and thats it. Cant call him a choker after all that he's done. youtube.com/watch?v=HxoYXT4w6sE youtube.com/watch?v=X8oVF8mopzw youtube.com/watch?v=Sns-jvHD1ec youtube.com/watch?v=XoCufP8nOSQ
2018-04-17 01:15
#526
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
2009 and 2011? It's 2018 right now wake up. Yes Messi used to be better than Ronaldo 7-10 years ago... no one is arguing that at all, Ronaldo is better the last like 8 years though and therefore is better.
2018-04-17 12:30
#529
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
no, in 2015 Messi was much better as well and they won CL youtube.com/watch?v=7hjDINElwVc Ronaldo has been better the last 3 years ( RM won 2 and prob this one as well ) in UCL by GOALS ONLY. BC RONALDO IS A GOALSCORER, YOU CANT JUST COMPARE THEM BY GOALS IF MESSI ISNT A GOALSCORER AS WELL
2018-04-17 13:08
#537
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Messi is a goal scorer though did you see the stats ppl posted above in this convo? Oh btw your god team player who is the best passer in the game barely has a better assist to game ratio than Ronaldo does and he's a pure goal scorer think about that. Also another weird thing is even though Messi has better goal to game ratio in Champion's League, Ronaldo actually has the higher assists to game ratio in Champion's league think about before talking shit about Ronaldo's passing abilities.
2018-04-18 02:15
#538
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
U dont know what youre talking about. Messi was more of a goalscorer in the past ( false 10, still created more than Ronaldo ( typical #9 )) and Messi is a playmaker today. while Ronaldo was a pure winger in his early Rm/ manchester united days, and thus had a better assist per game ratio but a worse goal ratio than today. Looking at their UCL stats of all time they're equal in terms of goal/assist per match. But the roles Ronaldo played ( Pure goalscoring #9 now and #7 in the past ) should yield better stats than Messi's ( false 9 in the past, and pretty much an attacking midfield playmaker rn ) Winger and #9 should contribute more to goals and assists compared to false 9 and an attacking midfield. Messi's role contributed more to other aspects of the game more, while he is equal to Ronaldo in terms of goals and assists overall. The #9 is literally setup to score, while Messi is the one literally setting up the attack, dictating the game etc.
2018-04-18 14:03
#567
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Yes this is all fine and good, lots of opinions, look at the statistics. Messi 0.21 Assists per game UCL Ronaldo 0.25 Assists per game UCL Enough said and Ronaldo has most goals in UCL history, most goals scored consecutively at 11 games in a row, most goals scored in a single UCL tournament etc etc. I really don't care who you think is better they both have stats way higher than any other player in the world and are clearly the best players in the sport and the best players of the 2000s+. Ronaldo will take goals as he pleases he can bang them in from long range, he's deadly in the box, he takes the free kicks and penalties and he a god at that as well, Ronaldo elevates his team mates people how are saying he can't pass and he only scores penalty are pure haters who are so blinded they can't even give a player of that caliber some respect instead just purely hate on him. Messi fanboys are toxic and delusional real talk, both is the best but neither of them are better than Ronaldinho in his prime.
2018-04-19 02:01
#575
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Im not one od those fans that discredit Ronaldo's achievements just because im a Messi fan. I respect his work and what he's achieved through his hard work and dedicaion. I think he's the most hardworking player in football history. He's a machine, the best human player right now. For the comparisons sake i dont think Messi is human, what he is able to do with the ball and his presence is something ive never seen before and not shown by stats ( + the role aspect i speaked in my last reply ) Ronaldinho's magic had a different vibe to it, it seemed playful, pure and more human. Messi at his prime is just otherwordly. And pretty much all of the football legends prefer Messi. Pele, Maradona, Ronaldihno, Cruyff, name a legend and look him up on the topic of messi v ronaldo. Hell even Ronaldo' ex mates or coaches like Rooney and Mourinho pick Messi. Here is Pele's opinion on the topic. goal.com/en/news/messi-v-ronaldo-brazil-.. Ill just put this here to emphasize Messi's magic youtu.be/pHUb4y7Txo0
2018-04-19 13:10
#592
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
I don't really care their opinions btw, it's like watching Pro players opinions on who's the best CS Go player and they all say coldzera or niko when it's obviously Krimz and s1mple which are untouchable atm. Also I agree with a lot of what you said other than the Messi is not human shit, only someone who watches only his highlights would say that also every good player has amazing highlights. You need to watch Barca play full games, he tries to go on runs a lot and loses the ball a lot, he makes a lot of passes, not only good ones, he is human btw he makes mistakes and makes bad plays just like any other player who's ever existed but he is a magician with the ball, his dribbling is top level, he's deadly in the box, good short passing ability, he's fast af etc. The things he does with the ball are pretty regular if you've ever seen Ronaldinho play football, this guy does shit that no other player has ever even come close to replicating like the cross bar keep ups just as an example. If you want to talk about someone not being human it would be Ronaldinho.
2018-04-20 01:16
#363
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Portugal DeSTinyyyy 
I dont belive this the person or page how made this is called fcbarçalogic so im not biting this.in my opinion Ronaldo is the best!
2018-04-14 21:54
#366
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Sweden Zolity 
U can search up the stats if u want :)) I did search up some of them and they were true
2018-04-14 22:00
#371
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Portugal DeSTinyyyy 
i dont care the stats wont change my opinion Ronaldo is one of the most if not the most completed player ever he just has to win a world cup and he has won pretty much everything he had to win
2018-04-14 22:03
#374
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Sweden Zolity 
In ur opinion, not in mine :)
2018-04-14 22:05
But please take a fucking look in how many games messi has done it and in how many games ronaldo has done it, messi is the fucking best!
2018-04-14 22:54
#387
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Sweden Zolity 
+1
2018-04-15 00:04
CRISTIANO RONALDO IS THE BETTER GOALSCORER
2018-04-15 03:43
#407
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Sweden Zolity 
nope, messi has a better goal per game ratio
2018-04-15 15:23
#410
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Sweden Zolity 
eyy 400+ comments
2018-04-15 17:02
#411
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Europe Avsa 
I think you misspelled Mohamed Salah. It's Mohamed not Messi
2018-04-15 17:05
#433
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Portugal Zedonp 
+1
2018-04-15 22:18
Last 3 Ballon d'Or in row? Ez for cr7?
2018-04-15 17:13
#418
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Sweden Zolity 
Check stats
2018-04-15 19:30
This shit is rigged anyway
2018-04-19 19:36
#425
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Poland mikasy 
ofc CR7> messi
2018-04-15 20:46
#450
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Sweden Zolity 
Lul nt check the stats
2018-04-16 19:01
#444
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Australia sadaddy 
messi is raw and natural so he is amazing but when it comes to ronaldo it's pure determination and hardwork and that ability to overcome anything and any one who looks down on him makes him the better one
2018-04-16 17:14
#446
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Sweden Zolity 
Ye
2018-04-16 17:24
#517
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Nepal hpbaxx 
what are people thinking when they say that messi didn't work hard or is lacking determination? if it was so easy for talented players, there would be a lot more players on his level
2018-04-17 01:21
#534
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Portugal Zedonp 
If it was so easy to put in the hard work Ronaldo puts then many players would be in the same lvl. No one is and only Messi us close so his hard work has to mean smt more
2018-04-17 18:22
#556
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Sweden Zolity 
Messi is better than him btw
2018-04-18 19:15
#459
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Brazil wAc 
CR7 >>>>>> MESSI
2018-04-16 19:22
#553
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Sweden Zolity 
Look at the stats then that i posted ;)
2018-04-18 19:14
i dont care about this loser
2018-04-16 22:13
#503
TACO | 
Portugal SNG_1997 
Roma kek
2018-04-16 22:14
#552
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Sweden Zolity 
:( Xd
2018-04-18 19:13
#554
TACO | 
Portugal SNG_1997 
XD
2018-04-18 19:14
#555
TACO | 
Portugal SNG_1997 
Comeback is real
2018-04-18 19:15
#557
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Sweden Zolity 
But that fkn penalty for rm tho. :( XD
2018-04-18 19:16
people say messi because of his dribbling skills on the ball but ronaldo is a complete footballer with his head,both feet(back heel also),chest,shoulders and back could messi do these things,not quite...messi is short so and quick so its much harder to get the ball from him plus he has great control,ronaldo does too but messi dribble makes players fear him.oh and i must say this he's more accurate than ronaldo although I prefer cr7
2018-04-17 02:01
#551
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Sweden Zolity 
Messi is more complete, just not tall enough to head as well as ronaldo
2018-04-18 19:13
#521
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Portugal Flacko24 
OFC RONALDO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF FOOTBAL.. Cristiano Ronaldo was a player who played in Sporting, Manchester United where he won a lot there .. and now Real Madrid .. where he won many more things for his record messi no, messi just knows what it is to play in barcelona, do not know what it is to play in a tier 3 team .. always played with the best players in the world (ronaldinho, ibrahimovic, among others who spent in barcelona) .. ronaldo proved to be the best in sporting, united and real madrid, there is no one in the WORLD, who has gained so much skill only with work .. without work, talent is nothing and guys 6th ballon d'or is coming
2018-04-17 02:30
#527
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
So true work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.
2018-04-17 12:34
#550
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Sweden Zolity 
Flag checks out. Btw are u trolling?
2018-04-18 19:12
#558
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Portugal Flacko24 
no im not.. and what that realy means?? many portuguese people prefer messi.. A LOTTT
2018-04-18 19:16
#559
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Sweden Zolity 
But more prefer ronaldo, much more. There isn't even one purtuguese that like messi in this thred
2018-04-18 19:22
#560
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Portugal Flacko24 
ronaldo has more fans in brazil than here u know that??
2018-04-18 19:26
#561
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Sweden Zolity 
In people, yes. In percent wise, no?
2018-04-18 19:41
#562
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Portugal Flacko24 
probably yes.. im not sure, but all of fan pages and that shitties are there
2018-04-18 19:47
#563
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Sweden Zolity 
ah ok didn't know that, thanks for info! :)
2018-04-18 20:05
#564
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Portugal Flacko24 
you're welcome
2018-04-18 20:06
#576
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Messi is the one carrying Barca for the last 4 years while Ronaldo has the best team in the world to play with???? Barcelona stats: Most goals- Messi; most assists- Messi; most chances created- Messi; most sucesfull takeons- messi; most key passes- Messi. Real Madrid stats: Most goals- Ronaldo and thats it about Ronaldo, his team pretty much dictates the game and Ronakdo finishes, while Messi is literally Barca, he is the playmaker, the goalscorer and the creator. Ge is x10 the team player Ronaldo is
2018-04-19 13:15
#539
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Romania Tise 
That hadn't been the case for 4 years straight, boy. Keep shilling for him elswehere.
2018-04-18 14:05
#549
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Sweden Zolity 
He still has had the better stats. just not the titles
2018-04-18 19:11
pele, romario > all
2018-04-18 14:10
#548
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Sweden Zolity 
LUL Pelé LUL
2018-04-18 19:11
lel in this bullshit site it says in UCL 119 goals for ronaldo aqhahhahahahahahahahq what a fake shit
2018-04-18 14:12
#546
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Sweden Zolity 
Oh sry, he has like 2 more now. Lmao chill.
2018-04-18 19:10
ronaldinho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messi>>>>>>>>ronaldo
2018-04-18 19:04
#547
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Sweden Zolity 
not imo and the stats says otherwise. But ronaldinho is the most funny player to watch imo
2018-04-18 19:10
IFFHS BEST PLAYMAKER Messi 3 - 0 Ronaldo ahahaahahaha
2018-04-18 20:12
#570
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Sweden Zolity 
messi is the best playmaker
2018-04-19 08:12
well, so Ronaldo is an attacker, not a playmaker
2018-04-19 09:24
#572
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Sweden Zolity 
But messi has better stats for an attacker aswell this season
2018-04-19 11:40
#573
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Sweden Zolity 
Holy shit his thread is big rn
2018-04-19 11:41
#590
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Romania WU1E 
Zlatan>Messi & Ronaldo
2018-04-19 19:42
Maybe messi isn‘t goat, but he is clearly better than ronaldo and not an retarded actor like him.
2018-04-19 19:45
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