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vac ban vs matchfixing-ban
Spain ezivnisi 
thoughs? why KQLY and not brax? (ofc we dont care about jew steel nissan)
2018-04-20 21:54
i are not care
2018-04-20 21:54
its easy. if you cheat you make valve money because matches are more exciting when everyone hits every crazy shot and has perfect info. if you matchfix you are not making valve money, you are taking money from their betting viewers.
2018-04-20 21:56
Brazil 1710710 
You are endangering the viability of having cs as a popular betting game really, and this is bad not only for valve but for the growing of the community overall Matchfixing is much more srs than cheating
2018-04-22 08:41
So cheating which can be the reason a player wins a big tournament (1 million dolars or more prize pool) is more serious than matchfixing which only happens/happened at a lower level of cs?
2018-04-22 09:06
Brazil 1710710 
No its the other way around. Matchfixing is more srs as the only reason this lower level cs is happening at all is because of betting injecting money on the scene More money on counter strike = good for valve, good for, good for csgo youtube content, good for professonalization of competitive play, good for quality of competitive play, good for visibility and playerbase numbers, thus also good for the prices of skins... I could Just keep going
2018-04-22 10:23
So you're saying that without betting valve,, and professional cs would go broke? Im pretty sure that betting isnt the number one source of income for them and they would still do fine without it but im not saying they shouldnt care about matchfixing im just annoyed by the fact that matchfixers get punished harder than cheaters in csgo
2018-04-22 10:41
VAC bans are worse, but if one can be forgiven, why not the other?
2018-04-20 21:56
Because $$$ bro
2018-04-22 10:20
United States Idoitforlols 
Neither should be forgiven.
2018-04-20 21:57
Lithuania KoksSkirtumas 
how many teams banned in cs go for matchfixing? becouse in dota2 this year i saw maybe 6 or more team banned in tournaments for fixing...also pinnacle sometimes canceling bet for this...
2018-04-20 21:59
ropz | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
Steel, who is currently playing better than swag while being the IGL? I would rather steel be unbanned than anyone else
2018-04-20 21:59
Croatia mds818 
tbh on a game like cs it's different but i never really gave a fuck if someone used hacks or not in the games where hackers are beatable
2018-04-20 22:00
Brazil 1710710 
+1 "Legit" hacking is a big advantage of course, but not near as big as dopping in real sports Hackers often lose games in cs, a top level 100m runner fueled with exogenous testosterone will never lose to a clean one
2018-04-22 08:46
Croatia mds818 
Nah but let's put it this way(strictly in the video games) Let's say that you have a wallhack on a shooting game and all/most of the walls are spam-able enough to make a that wall difference next to none, person with the wallhack will be able to kill his oponnents without a problem, person without it won't of course but if you play idk lets say 50 hours you will find out the same spots which he's using and eventually became nearly equal
2018-04-22 19:24
Spain ezivnisi 
i dont know... its hard... is like prision.. some get the good way, and some not.
2018-04-22 05:58
Well I'd say cheating possibly infinite times as we do not know is worse vs match fixing one game that was meaningless, pretty obvious they didn't have other throws anyway considering how blatant they were when they did it xdddd
2018-04-22 08:56
Canada Surzz 
neither are forgivable.
2018-04-22 08:59
Theia | 
United States Shanes 
brax was match-fixing, kqly was cheating. isnt it obvious? use ur brain.
2018-04-22 19:25
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