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being cocky
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
Imagine being so cocky, that you wouldnt ban Mirage as first map against mousesports
2018-05-04 11:09
renegades win 2-1
2018-05-04 11:11
#6
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
nt jkaems mom
2018-05-04 11:14
#14
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Sweden Dino1 
LOL
2018-05-04 11:19
maybe use your brain before you will make another completely retarded topic...
2018-05-04 11:11
#4
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
nt kaparzo
2018-05-04 11:13
nt nobrain
2018-05-04 11:16
#9
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
nt kaparzo
2018-05-04 11:17
will not waste more my time with braindead person so whatever floats your boat.bye
2018-05-04 11:18
#15
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
nt kaparzo
2018-05-04 11:20
#20
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Germany Destr0y 
+1
2018-05-04 11:24
#3
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
It is quite odd to say the least.
2018-05-04 11:12
it isnt odd at all...mouz would pick nuke and renegades dont even play that map while they have reasonable w/l ratio on mirage+its their most played map.they have surely better chances on mirage than on nuke vs mouz
2018-05-04 11:17
#22
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Mouz have always picked Mirage over Nuke after they got their asshole gaped on Nuke by Astralis.
2018-05-04 11:26
"after they got their asshole gaped on Nuke by ASTRALIS" we are talking about renegades here and they played nuke this year ONCE. so, yes....mirage was surely better option for them
2018-05-04 11:26
#28
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
#7, #19, #23. It makes no sense to leave Mirage against MOUZ of all teams.
2018-05-04 11:28
#31
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
trying to make valid arguments to kaparzo, i am not sure if he has brain capacity to undertand
2018-05-04 11:30
holy crap...banning phase isnt only about banning the best map of your opponent.you also have to consider which map they will pick instead and it would be NUKE where mouz are good while renegades dont even play that map(they played it 1x this year ffs). on the other hand mirage is the most played map of renegades and they have decent w/l ratio there.no,it makes perfect sense to leave mirage there if you know that your opponent is good on map which you dont even play.they had better chance on mirage for sure
2018-05-04 11:31
#5
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Ireland tsarbomba 
Topic already explored, not banning mirage would have left Nuke open for Mouse to pick, and considering that mouse are decent on it and Renegades can't play it for shit, this decision was quite understandable Leaving nuke open would have allowed them to pick CT side though
2018-05-04 11:14
#7
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
i would rather try ct nuke instead of mirage...
2018-05-04 11:15
#11
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Ireland tsarbomba 
True, but I mean they are dogshit at Nuke, they probably are aware of that, and aware of Mouse doing not so bad. Statistically, there must be more chance winning Mirage for them, trying to dictate the pace on the T side cause at least they have a grasp of the map and how to try and beat Mouse, than going on to Nuke, picking CT side, and since you can't play the map, still getting raped
2018-05-04 11:18
#16
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
i dont think so, they lost mirage i guess once or twice this year and they are playing it every single bo3. So as i said, i would statistically try to play nuke instead of mirage
2018-05-04 11:23
#23
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Ireland tsarbomba 
Yeah they are 16W/2L now I believe I would personnaly have chosen Nuke over Mirage but I'm not in Renegades and you never know what's in their minds when they are going through the veto process, they might have chosen what seemed to be the safest option out of all options they had because they lacked the confidence going into Nuke against Mouse, dunno though
2018-05-04 11:25
#17
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Netherlands Phyrhex 
Honestly looking at Renegades playing on mirage they are pretty terrible too on that map....
2018-05-04 11:23
#18
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
finally someone gets my point
2018-05-04 11:24
#26
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Ireland tsarbomba 
Although I agree they weren't that good today, they have had nice results recently, putting up a good fight against Fnatic for example, and considering Mouse plays a LOT of mirage, it must be easier to analyze and try to anti-strat them on this particular map rather than Nuke, which they play from time to time but haven't played much recently
2018-05-04 11:27
Renegades fucking suck ass on Nuke, they have a better shot on a map they actually play even if it's the other team's best map.
2018-05-04 11:18
#19
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Netherlands Phyrhex 
Even worse than how they just played on Mirage? Not sure if thats even possible
2018-05-04 11:24
It's their instaban mate Also I don't see how they played bad on mirage, did you not expect this score?
2018-05-04 11:24
#24
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Netherlands Phyrhex 
I'd atleast expected Renegades to get double digits in and make it somewhat close.
2018-05-04 11:25
Why though? Mouz have smashed tier 1 teams on this map, yes I expected more from Renegades but that's more fanboy talking than my brain.
2018-05-04 11:27
#33
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Netherlands Phyrhex 
Why bother picking a map where you'd know you would get absolutely stomped on? I feel like Renegades would have more chance on Nuke
2018-05-04 11:31
#29
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Russia RIOT_GAMES 
Why not?
2018-05-04 11:28
Hehe we see how that mirage game went
2018-05-04 11:29
re*****????? they wouldnt get 3 rounds in nuke
2018-05-04 11:31
#35
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United States NA_BEST 
it doesn't matter... RNG are gonna win anyways. Take it from me thats its impossible for them to loose with the crowd support they have. Trust me I was at the FAZE vs C9 final at the major. C9 won because of the crowd full stop. RNG 2-1
2018-05-04 11:31
#36
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Ireland tsarbomba 
As a fan, I hope you're right
2018-05-04 11:34
#37
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Tunisia wotup_newfag 
hahaha, but mouz arent chokers that big as faze is
2018-05-04 11:36
#38
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Netherlands Phyrhex 
Unfortunately it wont go to 3 maps :(
2018-05-04 11:39
#39
World Jeza 
I honestly don't think teams care as much about vetos on maps like mirage or d2. I think they have a good shot on a pug style map that they are experienced on. It's partly self-confidence. Teams would rather play maps they are comfortable on even if its known as their opponent's best map, than to play a map they are not comfortable on. There have been lots of times where one team has had "uncrackable" mirage. In the end, they always lose to some T2 team who plays it differently because T1 teams just ban it.
2018-05-04 11:42
rng gonna lose
2018-05-04 12:25
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