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Portugal malucodoscornos 
I m not talking about fox here and the 80-53 on bo3 against Ence , but for first qualifier the boys aren't playing bad , against fraggsters we can see they need time to have more map pool when they lost d2 was gg but nt
2018-05-08 09:30
Oh btw they got rNk 56 after update.
2018-05-08 09:41
#2
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Portugal fakit0 
yeah its true , and KPI are good if they win kinguin they can qualifie to adrenaline cup
2018-05-08 09:45
Go godzelin
2018-05-08 10:08
ence only 70 but the Finns will rise!
2018-05-08 14:01
#4
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Poland xavist 
innocent on facebook said they played these qualifiers with only 3-4 trainings, they have prepared only standard positions on maps. I think after few weeks of practice they'll reach top 30, maybe top 20.
2018-05-08 09:53
+1
2018-05-08 10:03
+1 my friend
2018-05-08 10:06
They have talented players but i dont know about HS as IGL
2018-05-08 10:11
+1 innocent could make the role, but he said he doesn't want to be the IGl cuz he want to frag more xD
2018-05-08 11:15
#39
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Sweden jackir 
let him try it more, they did qualify ppl underestimate the star power they got here
2018-05-08 11:59
they didn't lol
2018-05-08 14:02
#68
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Sweden jackir 
ik i was apparently wrong
2018-05-08 14:08
#20
zonic | 
Czech Republic Murina 
wtf you must be retarded
2018-05-08 10:44
+1
2018-05-08 11:15
#53
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Portugal ACESAIYAJIN 
+1
2018-05-08 12:18
I think Tempo Storm will be a top 25 team as long as they don't change Soker
2018-05-08 09:59
Thank you , renegades will sucess too
2018-05-08 10:08
Mind your words, boy. Renegades is now successfully ranking 12th in the world.
2018-05-08 10:23
That's not very difficult if they can beat Fragsters(#25) or Grayhound(#24).
2018-05-08 10:24
#10
Striker | 
Germany lynni 
SOKER is soooooooooooooo cool
2018-05-08 10:08
+1 I don't know why people are saying to kici him hi's like that guy how doesn't have so much frags but all of them are impact frags
2018-05-08 11:16
#48
RIZZZ | 
Portugal andrem34 
Plus he is the one that always plays with the shit guns
2018-05-08 12:11
#13
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United Kingdom swellis 
incredibly painful to watch on inferno against imperial even though they won
2018-05-08 10:17
Ye its true but with time maybe they can do some good things
2018-05-08 10:41
#41
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Sweden jackir 
new team, fox has played against top 5 teams on inferno and won
2018-05-08 11:59
#14
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Iceland hdjdAkINg 
they can reach top 15 with hard work. They need to qualify for big tournaments, i wanna se fox on lan he is much better than online
2018-05-08 10:24
#18
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Turkey SLendeRuLeZ 
Definitely somewhere between dmg and supreme. Reality check: tier 3 and will probably disband before reaching tier 1.
2018-05-08 10:42
Tylul
2018-05-08 11:10
#51
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Turkey SLendeRuLeZ 
What?
2018-05-08 12:16
#19
zonic | 
Czech Republic Murina 
potential tier 4 team,end of story.
2018-05-08 10:43
#22
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United States ELPRESADOR 
Get rid of SOKER and put in an IGL and then I would see potential in the team.
2018-05-08 10:46
Soker is a good player He doesn't make so many kills but all of them are impact kills, for me he has more impact on the team then lowel
2018-05-08 11:17
#28
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I can understand that he's playing a more supportive role, but they honestly need more fragging power. HS is completely overrated in all honesty as it is and plus now he's IGLing. HS as IGL either means that their tactics will be more puggy FPL style that will help to set him up in nice positions to get frags or it will make his impact suffer. Innocent also doesn't really wow me too much. I feel like he's decent but there could be better. It's just tough to get into the top 30 considering the amount of great teams there are. You really want want to be a budget FaZe/Mouz. You want to be BETTER than either of those teams.
2018-05-08 11:24
I'm sure mixwell will leave g2 after the french that is incoming and will join the them The question is who will leave? and Btw soker is only a trial
2018-05-08 11:27
#30
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I hope that he leaves G2 and in that case if he replaces SOKER then Mixwell would be ideal, but the roles will probably have to be swapped. Mixwell main star. HS second star. Fox main awp. Innocent support/igl? Lowel 3rd star/support? Not entirely sure, but the problem of no IGL is still there.
2018-05-08 11:32
People are talking that xizt could join them but i don't think so.. Xizt will leave faze after olof returns and could be an option Mixwell (Support/2nd awper) Fox (Awp) Hs (entry) Xizt (IGL) Lowel (lurk) I want to see soker on this team but if innocent leaves for mixwell or another spanien/portuguese player i think Hs don't want to play with 4 iberian players And 4sure Fox won't kick lowel cuz their good friends So this team won't happen cuz Hs want to play with innocent Or they can make a full iberian team (and i don't hope so cuz hs is a talented player or hs can join a better team like HR for deadfox and then the iberian team would look as follow Lowel Mixwell Fox Soker +decent IGL I would like to see the first team but Hs want to play with innocent. We need to wait...
2018-05-08 11:42
#32
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I mean we had a pretty good full spanish team in Wololos. I know that Fox and I think it's Eastor who is also a main awp. So i'm not sure how that would work out, and I don't know who you would take out of the two, but maybe -Soker again and then have Eastor be secondary awp?
2018-05-08 11:44
the first team would be great with xizt for me perfect team would be Hs Mixwell Innocent xizt Fox Or a better player for innocent like jkaem, his stand in on renegades annd probably he can join them But it won't happen ;(
2018-05-08 11:47
#36
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Asia BurjAlArab 
Innocent is skilled, u will see in the future dude
2018-05-08 11:56
#38
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I know he is skilled, I just don't like how he will end up in the team the way it is currently. He would be good as a secondary star or so in an all polish team so I just want to remove him due to there just being better in the 3rd star / support role.
2018-05-08 11:57
#40
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Asia BurjAlArab 
he's the lurker at most of the maps as i saw in these 2/3 days, soker support and lowel entry fragger, hs igl and fox awp
2018-05-08 11:59
#44
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I mean honestly my biggest problem is just HS as the IGL. So my thinking goes as follows. Bring in an IGL. Now you have to think who is the better star? HS or Innocent? I honestly would take HS so you make HS more of a star that can lurk at times perhaps. You then have to get rid of Innocent.
2018-05-08 12:03
Hs is new and fresh probably he is igl because think that can do it withou loose performance i think the first off all they need some more online matchs and tournaments too see what they can realy do after some prac
2018-05-08 13:50
#43
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Sweden jackir 
trust me he is full time renegades, and xizt is gonna stay in faze
2018-05-08 12:01
#50
RIZZZ | 
Portugal andrem34 
Xist will probably join fnatic
2018-05-08 12:14
#42
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Sweden jackir 
what do you mean overrated?? this is t3/4 competition, when he was '''overrated'' he had qualified for a fucking major and played in t1 competitions, he is lightyears ahead of the teams he's competing against, same with fox
2018-05-08 12:01
#45
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United States ELPRESADOR 
Look at the context of this thread. This is about the team becoming a top 30+ team. He is definitely overrated when it comes to being a star player. Yes he qualified for a major but he did little to no damage.
2018-05-08 12:04
#46
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Sweden jackir 
they're already a top30 team dude.. maybe not according to hltv rankings but you are underestimating how good hs is, he was overrated against the best in the world, where every 3rd game he was insane and the other 2 games he was just mediocre
2018-05-08 12:05
#47
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I have to disagree with that honestly. I don't really think they are a top 30 team if he is IGLing. Although top 30 does mean that some tier 2 teams can get into the lower end due to some upsets at an odd event. HS igling is just a bad idea. He is a fragger. What potential he does have is either being diminished because of the role, or it's just not going to work against most teams due to them being structured. By that I mean he might call in an FPL/puggy style and that honestly will not bring a team far.
2018-05-08 12:07
#52
RIZZZ | 
Portugal andrem34 
Hs already was igl when he was in estonian teams just give them time with 1 week prac no igl will make a team be good
2018-05-08 12:16
#54
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I guess that could be true, he could be like a budget ChrisJ.
2018-05-08 12:20
#55
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Sweden jackir 
who is better than them? imean mvp k is ranked 22 and they acn sure as fuck beat them. i think you underestimate hs, same with soker you just gotta give them time, it's way too early in their careers to know what they are good at fucking chrisj found himself as an igl and that was years after he had been an awper for years that's all up to see because what have we seen from them so far? they qualified for an offline event, and lost in the final to a team that has showed steady improvement, and 3 players in TS has been in top10 teams
2018-05-08 12:22
#56
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I mean I agree with you entirely. I'm just talking based off of what I know from teams like this in the past and with how the pro scene is currently. I also agree with the ChrisJ statement as I said to another guy in this chain, he could be like a budget ChrisJ. Also I feel that teams like Torqued, Imperial, Valiance and such could beat them pretty easily, but of course they are already established.
2018-05-08 12:27
#62
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Sweden jackir 
what teams are those though? i'd like examples cuz i have no idea of a team like this on this level, there's been teams like this in t1 but not on this level as far as i know yeah but they already beat imperial, and who does valiance and imperial really have with real experience? imean torqued has swag and steel, and people have for some fucking reason forgotten steel is an igl at the level of fucking fallen, and not only that but has the skill of a fallen, and swag has beaten t1 teams with c9, being their best player
2018-05-08 13:51
#65
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United States ELPRESADOR 
Imperial/Valiance/Torqued are just in the same camp as Tempo Storm. Loads of talent, just starting to make scratches at the Tier 1ish competition. Also, Swag is playing pretty poorly atm, not sure why, maybe he's giving room for Pollo.
2018-05-08 13:58
#69
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Sweden jackir 
what loads of talent does valiance imperial have which is close to torqued? torqued beats nrg, valiance /imperial couldnt never beat nrg
2018-05-08 14:09
#70
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United States ELPRESADOR 
Well first you need to understand that Torqued and NRG are regional rivals so they play against eachother a lot more than Valiance, Imperial or Tempo Storm would. That means that they probably practice against eachother a lot in scrims and individually they are familiar with each other from Rank S and NA FPL. Valiance has Hunter and Impluse. Imperial has Espiranto/Nukyye/Nexa
2018-05-08 14:12
Thats because lowel is shit, hes inconsistent and not that good when he is at hes best.
2018-05-08 11:52
#57
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I liked how Lowel played when he was in Wololos. I honestly wish that they kept that team but found the best replacement for SOKER so they could have an almost "Spanish superteam" but in a legit manner because it would have defined roles instead of just relying on mad fragging.
2018-05-08 12:30
I didnt watch that, but i watched him in mouz and i dont think he was that good against t1 teams, but thats just my opinion
2018-05-08 12:36
#59
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United States ELPRESADOR 
I agree with you, but I honestly think it was because that entire Mouz lineup was pretty terrible. I can't remember but it was ChrisJ/Dennis/Lowel/Oskar and I can't remember who else. Maybe it was Ropz. But the potential in that lineup was just so much lower. If they replaced Dennis with Sunny then I honestly think that Lowel/Styko could be considered of equal value if both were placed into that solo anchor / support role.
2018-05-08 12:38
It was NiKo actually before he leaved for faze, but yeah the lineup was still terrible.
2018-05-08 13:12
TOP 3 in 2 months
2018-05-08 11:50
Give Soker time ffsk!
2018-05-08 11:56
+1
2018-05-08 13:53
#49
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Portugal R0cketOG 
Agains t3/4 competition it can probably work. But from what Ive seen from Penta days, I think that HS should be the star of this team, with Innocent calling. Anyway give them time. If they manage to establish themselves as a top 30-40 team in the world and struggle to go past that, I believe Innocent can go back to IGL to make it work. At the same time we might be surprised by HS IGL, but im afraid that even if he turns out to be Ok/good, they will still be wasting his potential. I mean the dude was crazy on penta and even on his optic spell.
2018-05-08 12:11
That qualifier almost gave me an heart attack god
2018-05-08 14:17
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