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WORST T1/T2 AWP??
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Syria Ariz0n 
YOUR OPINIONS
2018-05-14 12:47
#1Active Smithzz #2 Allu #3 Draken
2018-05-14 12:49
#76
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Finland Felesku 
Ence isnt even T2*
2018-05-14 14:35
but allu is a tier 1/2 player
2018-05-14 14:35
#105
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Finland Taynz 
Yeah and he isn't even that bad
2018-05-14 15:28
he is
2018-05-15 17:39
#186
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Spain JustNo 
ROFL ROFL ROFL
2018-05-17 19:45
#185
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Spain JustNo 
ROFL ROFL ROFL
2018-05-17 19:45
Allu is a average gold nova, so yeah defiantly not T2
2018-05-14 14:36
#149
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France BadGones 
Dont be so rude he is at least LE
2018-05-15 12:58
MGE at max
2018-05-15 17:35
#187
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Spain JustNo 
MG2 tbh
2018-05-17 19:46
"expert" from hlt.kids
2018-05-14 18:18
#133
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Russia AlexMove 
smithz isn't awper anymore
2018-05-14 20:38
#140
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Korea dev1sta 
"Active"
2018-05-15 06:13
Hahahaahhqhqhaahahhaah
2018-05-15 14:55
#179
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United Kingdom GeT_ReZ 
draken and allu? One is top 3 awper and the other is god incarnate.
2018-05-15 17:12
draken
2018-05-14 12:49
draken is actually good
2018-05-14 13:02
Smooya then
2018-05-14 13:48
fallen nowdays
2018-05-14 14:43
#188
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Spain JustNo 
allu fan
2018-05-17 19:46
#103
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Poland m0unTaiN 
smooya is playing on unstable fps and still he has best rating in BIG
2018-05-14 15:22
Comparing with BIG its smth like comparing with MM players you know
2018-05-14 15:29
#160
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India grinchxd 
hello? tabseN?
2018-05-15 15:08
overrated
2018-05-15 15:36
#184
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Poland m0unTaiN 
xd
2018-05-17 19:43
+1
2018-05-15 12:56
Lol
2018-05-15 14:56
#4
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Pretty much NA awpers. One thing EU dominates us in is awpers. Pretty bad when ska Jdm Shazam nifty our best.
2018-05-14 12:50
#9
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
Yea but awpers like ska and nifty have the potential to reach the eu awpers in terms of skill, but not consistently, making them worse overall :(
2018-05-14 12:59
#26
United Kingdom Alth 
Which EU AWPers? Because neither of them have the potential to compete with GuardiaN/S1mple/Oskar/Device.
2018-05-14 13:18
#61
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United Kingdom swellis 
if you can bait and exit frag you can be oskar
2018-05-14 13:49
Skadoodle was better than Guardian at the major and both were playing in form, the problem with NA awpers and mostly just Ska or Nifty is that they do this once a year at most.
2018-05-14 14:44
#101
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
Yea thats what i was trying to say aswell
2018-05-14 15:20
Skadoodle was not better than GuardiaN at the major, were you even watching? Skadoodle had some good maps, and a few sick clutches, but he had a lot of bad games too. GuardiaN was very strong throughout, and finished with a much higher rating overall.
2018-05-14 18:57
In the finals: Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham 79-55 Ladislav 'Guardian' Kovacs 75-66
2018-05-14 19:12
Says Skadoodle was better than GuardiaN at the major> Called out he's wrong> Replies with K:D ratio from one match from the major> Hltv logic.
2018-05-14 20:38
Alright, better in the finals of the major; where it matters and the reason why Kjaerbye got mvp over device during their major win. No need to be pedantic.
2018-05-14 22:36
But you said skadoodle was better than guardian at major, while he only was better in 1 particular match, while Guardian was much better throughout the event. So, even knowing that your point given in #88 is wrong you still keep trying to find arguments out of nowhere, don't you? Dude, when you are wrong just admit it. No need to be asshole.
2018-05-15 12:55
+1
2018-05-15 12:57
#177
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Ukraine Samdi 
+1
2018-05-15 16:44
False: Skadoodle was on par with guardian at the major (hence why he has “potential” to do so)
2018-05-14 14:44
He was not.
2018-05-14 18:58
Clearly didn’t watch the final or baiting. Have a nice day sir
2018-05-14 19:10
I didn't realise the major consisted of one match. He was far inferior to GuardiaN overall at the major. What were YOU watching?
2018-05-14 20:39
#141
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Korea dev1sta 
He most likely meant in the major final, like what Izula intended to say
2018-05-15 06:17
Fair enough, but that's not a very big sample size is it? By that logic we could say worldedit "can" be on the level of GuardiaN, because he does it once every 100 maps.
2018-05-15 09:01
#145
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Korea dev1sta 
Yeah, but he just said that to prove that Skadoodle has the "potential" to be as good as them, as in he is capable of performing god-like, but he is inconsistent that is why he is not regarded as better than EU awpers.
2018-05-15 12:42
#100
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
Nifty had one good map so hes on that level Kappa
2018-05-14 15:19
#34
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Denmark Doktor_Q 
+1
2018-05-14 13:27
Any chance that ur from lebanon or arabic origin?
2018-05-14 13:37
Hes from pakistan
2018-05-14 14:39
JDM is a god tho ;)
2018-05-14 16:48
#5
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Lithuania Grybore 
Jw
2018-05-14 12:52
#13
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Serbia Wule123 
+1 really bad atm
2018-05-14 13:03
He is not even awping atm. Playing as a rifler.
2018-05-14 14:37
It proves that he is even more shit because there is no awpers on fnatic. But if I remember good everyone were taking awp, there was no specific person cuz jw is too shit atm.
2018-05-14 14:38
lekro is actually really good with the awp
2018-05-15 13:01
Yeah but they need firepower and lekro on awp is a big waste.
2018-05-15 13:57
well jw has stepped up his game as well in the last 2 evvents hopefully he is back in form and gets more consistent
2018-05-15 14:55
Too many ...
2018-05-14 12:53
Snatchie
2018-05-14 13:52
#7
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Netherlands Deji 
Sixer
2018-05-14 12:53
#10
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Syria Ariz0n 
irrelevant, already t4 with envy ac
2018-05-14 13:00
#39
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Denmark Doktor_Q 
no wtf, what are you saying 'bout ma boy Sexer?
2018-05-14 13:31
#122
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Netherlands Deji 
i was kick_sexer_ffs
2018-05-14 16:51
I remember watching him AWP and I was wondering if he was a rifler or AWPer. He missed shots a Gold Nova would hit if he is having a bad day. Sixer is really bad. We need a Sixer whiff compilation.
2018-05-14 16:50
#8
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
Happy
2018-05-14 12:57
+1
2018-05-14 13:06
Envy is not even T2
2018-05-14 14:44
#102
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
+1
2018-05-14 15:21
ain't t1 or t2 if they are bad roll safe
2018-05-14 13:02
+1 people on hltv talking shit about pros when they problably themselves are in mg1 and cant hit shit
2018-05-14 16:41
#125
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Europe Hue_Ganus 
Your point makes no sense.We critisize pros because it is their job to be good, and when they are not playing well they are bad at their job.The same way you critisize a politician , a doctor e.t.c.
2018-05-14 18:16
Right now? FalleN and Draken. Any other awper on t1/t2 teams is better than them at this moment.
2018-05-14 13:04
#24
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Oceania KreePzyy 
uh draken think
2018-05-14 13:17
2018-05-14 13:31
it's not about stats. He has nutty aim but he misses a lot of easy shots
2018-05-14 22:58
SK gaming is bad right now, whenever they come back, Fallen will be back to top 3 awps.
2018-05-14 13:33
#15
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Ukraine wh1tetark 
nitr0 easily
2018-05-14 13:04
#115
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Canada Ardent64 
hes not an awper, liquid rotates through awpers on each side/map depending on "whos feeling it" which is better than having someone who is somewhat better with awp (jdm) but shit with rifles (jdm)
2018-05-14 16:34
he's still better with the awp, than jdm thou imo... which is sad for jdm since its his only gun
2018-05-15 15:16
#16
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Kazakhstan EmirT 
mertz
2018-05-14 13:05
#17
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Syria Ariz0n 
t1/2 not t4
2018-05-14 13:05
North is mid tier 2 like it or not
2018-05-14 13:33
#111
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Kazakhstan EmirT 
xd
2018-05-14 16:03
Device but he is a T3 AWP.
2018-05-14 13:06
LUL
2018-05-14 13:26
#55
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Kyrgyzstan coldnezz 
haha, +1
2018-05-14 13:41
+1
2018-05-14 16:52
#157
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Poland FOOLPL 
+1
2018-05-15 14:57
kennyS t99875588548959645865688645 team and silver 1 awping skills
2018-05-14 13:08
Even rotten worms are a better bait than this
2018-05-14 13:34
#124
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North America Smerv 
+1
2018-05-14 18:11
#161
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India grinchxd 
xd
2018-05-15 15:11
-564
2018-05-15 15:17
#21
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Netherlands Imrivendill 
Skadoodle because he manages to be tier 1 and tier 2 at random times. Most inconsistent.
2018-05-14 13:10
#75
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United States jhon1307^ 
Skadoodle can play like a DMG sometimes lmao
2018-05-14 14:32
#126
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Europe Hue_Ganus 
What are you talking about skadoodle is very consistent( at being shit )
2018-05-14 18:17
+1 skadoodle its sometimes a god and sometimes a bot
2018-05-15 15:45
#22
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United States TupacNTC69 
1. S1mple 2. Allu 3. Neo
2018-05-14 13:11
#32
s1mple | 
Greece Mangas 
Stopped reading at s1
2018-05-14 13:26
+12311
2018-05-14 14:45
+12312
2018-05-15 15:45
Device or JW
2018-05-14 13:14
#25
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Oceania KreePzyy 
device astralis carry nt
2018-05-14 13:17
Its Magisk or Dupreeh. Device is only good at exitfragging.
2018-05-14 13:19
#30
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Oceania KreePzyy 
LMAOOO btw drakens a lot worse than device and no definitely not dupreeh, magisk yes.
2018-05-14 13:22
Draken misses a lot but his frags are worth it at least.
2018-05-14 14:04
dupreeh > (big gap) > draken all 25+ of someones kills are exit frags OMEGALUL
2018-05-14 15:42
#35
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Denmark Doktor_Q 
Who are you kidding?
2018-05-14 13:27
Dupreeh in 2018 LUL
2018-05-14 13:36
Xyp9x > the rest of Astralis
2018-05-14 13:34
#52
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Poland Az1m 
+1
2018-05-14 13:38
#28
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United States VRGcarsonqi 
0/8 device has been doing s well
2018-05-14 13:19
cajunb
2018-05-14 13:19
#31
tucks | 
Oceania KreePzyy 
+1
2018-05-14 13:22
draken
2018-05-14 13:28
NA awpers (not including cerq)
2018-05-14 13:28
nifty?
2018-05-14 14:36
Like Skadoodle where he has insane games then misses shots a dmg would hit the next.
2018-05-14 14:46
oskar is mge
2018-05-14 14:47
#42
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Germany Constikdw 
Skadoodle or nifty I guess. Maybe draken as well, he can be very good but when he’s not in point he misses the easiest shots, same goes with Mertz.(not including teams like liquid or envy who don’t even have a real awper)
2018-05-14 13:33
Nifty is bad? Lol.
2018-05-14 13:34
#47
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Germany Constikdw 
Well he is def not a top 10 awper. T2 at best. He has some good games but most of the time he is very inconsistent, 0.99 Rating says it all.
2018-05-14 13:36
1. Guardian 2. KennyS 3. Simple 4. Device 5. Nifty 6. Draken 7. Oskar 8. Fallen
2018-05-14 13:40
#62
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Germany Constikdw 
1. Guardian 2. S1mple 3. Device 4. Oskar 5. KennyS 6. Fallen 7. Mou 8. JW
2018-05-14 13:50
#104
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
Wow a list that i can agree with +1
2018-05-14 15:23
#107
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Germany Constikdw 
Thx :D
2018-05-14 15:40
#137
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
JW in his current form? Lul'd hard 8. should be Nifty imo
2018-05-14 22:49
#142
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Germany Constikdw 
Jw in bad form is still better than any na awper xD
2018-05-15 08:50
#152
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
Nt, any NA awper > JW rn -8/8 bad b8
2018-05-15 14:43
#153
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Germany Constikdw 
yours is the bad bait
2018-05-15 14:54
#173
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
Sometimes Lekr0 awps over JW, delusional fnatic fangay, smh /closed
2018-05-15 16:17
#175
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Germany Constikdw 
not rly an argument, doesnt happen often enough and jks also awps over nifty at times so...
2018-05-15 16:22
#176
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
Didn’t mean it as an argument, meant it as a fact. Also JKS awps when Nifty can afford 1 himself.
2018-05-15 16:38
#98
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United Kingdom ImDylster 
Nifty has high potential at 20 years old and this is not good for me to say because im a big fan of renegades but they dont play to help his aggressive style and there is big problems with communication between the team. When watching it looks like callouts come late and results in deaths. He needs someone with him when he goes aggressive to save/trade him out after his first shot and would result in a 1:1 or if he gets the first kill a 1:2. Also Nifty's movement is much better than most awpers i've seen him consistently hit some of the hardest jumps and bunny hops scoped in which i dont see from many awpers.
2018-05-14 14:55
#108
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Germany Constikdw 
Yes in terms of movement he might be the 2nd best awper after JW, but that’s sadly not enough, but otherwise I agree, he has potential and needs to get away from renegades and in game leading.
2018-05-14 15:42
Although I hate to say it, he would be so damn good in Liquid
2018-05-14 16:09
#118
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United Kingdom ImDylster 
well nitro hasn't been performing in recent tournaments so that can be a possibility
2018-05-14 16:46
lol
2018-05-14 13:34
Hobbit/mou Xcurrate Draken (inconsistent af) Mertz
2018-05-14 13:36
2018-05-14 14:17
Not inconsistent match wise, I'm talking in between rounds, one moment you'd see him pull an insane 3k with amazing flicks, next round he'd miss shots of people walking directly into his crosshair.
2018-05-14 14:23
#51
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Asia Mahathir62 
kennys
2018-05-14 13:38
sixer, mou
2018-05-14 13:41
big difference between worst tier 1 awper and worst tier 2 awper but i assume you mean borderline tier 1/2
2018-05-14 13:42
#60
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Syria Ariz0n 
+1
2018-05-14 13:48
#57
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Bulgaria raponq 
Must be jw skadoodle and pasha
2018-05-14 13:42
fallen
2018-05-14 13:44
Skadoodle/mou/Nifty
2018-05-14 13:51
t2 allu/fox
2018-05-14 13:53
jw, skadoodle, device
2018-05-14 13:53
fifflaren
2018-05-14 13:53
#70
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Syria Ariz0n 
Nice 1
2018-05-14 14:00
pasha/mou
2018-05-14 13:55
#69
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Sweden Zaser5 
mou
2018-05-14 13:56
#74
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Brazil CaioOlive 
Is fox tier 2?
2018-05-14 14:25
Sixer when he is on Envyus and maybe fox
2018-05-14 14:36
#84
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Turkey cracklords 
İ dont now the tier but DESPE
2018-05-14 14:39
#86
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Netherlands duudiGOD 
1. Skadoole. 2. device 3. JW 4. mou 5. allu when he were in tier1 team
2018-05-14 14:44
JW god top 1 Reported
2018-05-15 10:45
#178
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Netherlands duudiGOD 
jw is bot
2018-05-15 17:12
Skadoodle, JW
2018-05-14 14:45
FALLEN
2018-05-14 14:46
#95
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Poland FTSinho 
pashaBiceps F<T-S
2018-05-14 14:49
jw
2018-05-14 14:49
People saying draken really have no clue about how good he is lol Probably Skadoodle.
2018-05-14 14:53
#110
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Sweden Trkmag 
+11111111111 draken is honestly one of the best awps
2018-05-14 16:02
Yep, but a meme was created that he misses easy shots (as does every AWPer in the world) so people think he's bad, when in fact he's easily close to being a top 5 AWPer in the world. He always shows up at LAN.
2018-05-14 16:05
Skadoodle not in a good form, neither FALLEN, but if we say that envy is still t2, i would say happy
2018-05-14 14:57
I can confidently say draken right now he was doing insane for awhile now he's back to normal
2018-05-14 16:36
keev
2018-05-14 16:46
#135
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Russia AlexMove 
+1
2018-05-14 20:39
#164
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
he used to be so sick at attax tho, idk what happend to him :D
2018-05-15 15:19
Skadoodle
2018-05-15 06:06
#158
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Skadoodle has shown to be one of the best, yet his consistency has dropped off form currently. FalleN is in the same boat. GuardiaN, Device and draken I would say are the top three currently. KennyS is inconsistent, yet destroyed NiP during ECS with it.
2018-05-15 14:59
JW skadoodle
2018-05-15 15:07
pasha,mou,allu
2018-05-15 15:20
nifty, fallen, draken
2018-05-15 15:38
#168
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Sweden HoIger 
Skadoodle, Fucking useless 80% of the time.
2018-05-15 15:39
device skadoodle
2018-05-15 15:40
dota tower
2018-05-15 16:17
smooya pasha draken jw
2018-05-15 17:42
#189
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Norway NoregNik 
1. Skadoodle 2. JW 3. Device
2018-05-17 19:47
#190
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Iceland _natas_ 
1: HundeN 2: Fifflarn 3: SpawN
2018-05-17 19:49
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