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should we go vegan?
2018-05-19 13:13
Humans taste too good to become vegan.
2018-05-19 13:14
Agreed my brutha
2018-05-19 13:15
——————————— THIS THREAD IS BAIT ——————————— op is already vegan
2018-05-20 20:35
wdym brother
2018-05-19 13:25
#17
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
+1
2018-05-19 13:36
+1 good one
2018-05-19 14:22
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Europe liquidwhychoke 
Just eat nothing problem solved
2018-05-19 13:15
I don't like vegans.
2018-05-19 13:15
yes they taste salty
2018-05-19 15:12
#98
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Europe H4W4Y 
they taste like grass
2018-05-20 21:07
Unless you're prepared to ship a ton of food to places where growing stuff or importing non-meat isn't economically feasible then no Without hunting and meat my reserve back home would have zero people on it because we'd all have died during a winter like 1000 years ago.
2018-05-19 13:20
ofc im not talking about every single person in the world going vegan, people in some places might still need to eat meat out of necessity but there are billions of people in the world who can go without meat (i.e 99% of aussies, americans, europeans etc) this isnt about the minority of individuals who may need meat due to their circumstances, this is about those who can go fine without it but choose not to do so because they enjoy the taste or whatever
2018-05-19 13:28
weh, it ain't gonna help much when people's labour is still being exploited hella much to produce anything under late capitalism. Give a fuck about animals, people are dying out there to feed western nations no matter what's being shipped
2018-05-19 13:29
ofc it will help, the exploitation of labour may carry on but that doesnt mean we should do more harm by killing and eating animals unnecessarily just because there are people in other parts of the world suffering to other problems, they aren't related, completely irrelevant
2018-05-19 13:33
lol imagine giving more of a shit about animals than humans
2018-05-19 13:34
either a fakeflagger or you didn't pay enough attention in high school considering you lack the comprehension to understand anything i said
2018-05-19 13:35
You can't fix shit under capitalism buddi gotta start from the top, not the bottom.
2018-05-19 13:36
so are you an indian speaking english as a third language or something, is that why you can't grasp what i am saying and form a relevant and coherent reply? what do you not understand?
2018-05-19 13:38
rofl white vegans are such geeks We get it, you hate indigenous populations
2018-05-19 13:39
im not a white vegan nt tho and nice strawman, you really helped your case a lot with that one! when did i say i hate indigenous populations? you lack skills necessary for conversing in a productive manner, begone unless you wish to speak maturely like an adult
2018-05-19 13:41
you are a moron if you think going vegan will do fuck all for this world. IT WONT DO SHIT SO STOP WITH YOUR UTTER BULLSHIT
2018-05-19 13:42
elaborate yourself and speak in a mature fashion or i will have to report you, please dont be so immature thanks
2018-05-19 13:45
are you delusional? dont you see what is going on in the world? how the F will cuck veganism do anything to solve that? besides that vegans only are vegan because they cant bare to see death in anything. Meat makes humans stronger and because of meat our brains evolved to the point that we are at now. The only thing that needs to change is production of meat because it is hurting our earth. Killing animals to eat them is not the problem at all.
2018-05-19 13:49
it will help against global warming and world hunger, as well as reduce suffering in the world and contribute to building a cleaner and more humane society that is not only healthier but also more peaceful we dont need meat to survive, possibly milk/eggs for b12 so i guess u can say vegetarianism is the way to go
2018-05-19 13:51
Delusional. It wont solve any of those problems. the only thing causing global warming in this case is the PRODUCTION of food and that can be changed. it has nothing to do with EATING meat. And if you had any knowledge of food at all you would know that milk of animals is a horrible substance for humans and not healthy at all.. You are just a brainwashed vegan dummy so I know there is no convincing you.
2018-05-19 13:54
yes, it will help increased food production by going for grains etc. over meat = reduction of starvation throughout the masses am i wrong? also im not vegan so you're wrong, just like with every other point you made i had meat for dinner OMEGALUL im just discussing veganism bcuz it seems to me that it is logically the best route to go with (that or vegetarianism) yet we arent going with it
2018-05-19 13:56
Why increase production of grains etc. over meat when you can do both? One does not cancel the other out. The only thing we need is a more clean and efficient way to produce meat. We already can produce grains in huge huge quantities but africa and other parts of the world get left out simply because of greed and money. Veganism is just born out of desperation because the normal guy cant do shit against it and feel powerless so they grasp at straws and tell people ooh look at me im doing good in this world.. it is all brainwashed utter bullshit
2018-05-19 14:00
> im just discussing veganism bcuz it seems to me that it is logically the best route to go with (that or vegetarianism) yet we arent going with it Actually we do, but this is slow process which should be done during 50-100 years or so. Of course it's impossible for ALL of us to go vegan "just like that", most people are not ready for this. But the more and more people switch to vegan diet and it's good tendency.
2018-05-19 14:16
i really dislike the idea of veganism being pursued "because you cannot bare to see death," simply because it's a position of weakness from which you would act (hippies or whoever thinks in such a way). today it's a mostly a question of ethics (implying mental strength and discipline contra self-indulgence) and choosing the lesser of two perceived "evils" in face of you having the economical luxury allowing you to choose. and, personally, i would have no problem with... you know... doing what has to be done. (whether there is a good reason to do it is another matter entirely)
2018-05-19 14:49
*disclaimer: i am a vegan. (i consider anything else to be an unnecessary and undiplomatic bloodshed. consider hearing out your closest ambassador of the country of cluck.)
2018-05-19 15:17
so you chose not to eat genetically evolved farm animals and instead choose to buy green gold aka avocados produced by slave labor by cartels. good job
2018-05-20 20:39
being all-considering, i am, of course, avoiding products produced by unethical corporations like nestle and other exploiters as much as possible (at least relative to your kind). i do appreciate your concern, however. here a cute yuri image as reward for your considerateness (you can self-insert the right character if you want. i'll assume the role of the left one.): vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hyperdimensi..
2018-05-20 21:07
please be my waifu, gear-chan.
2018-05-20 21:17
what do you think about the promotion of "keto" type diets, by the way? the ones where tofu and other non-animal products are crossed out as "forbidden." is it a lobby propaganda effort? in face of the (potential) rise of veganism and co.
2018-05-20 21:38
keto diets are as idiotic as vegan diets, low-carb are okay for weightloss. Tofu/soy-products should always be avoided unless we are talking about small quantities.
2018-05-20 21:42
well, i don't eat a lot of soy, either. so... ;p
2018-05-20 21:44
considering you completly edited your first reply from ”ok” to that and responded twice more im guessing you dont eat much omega3 from animal resources
2018-05-20 21:53
considering how you seem to have hallucinated me editing my post, your mother may have consumed too much thereof. dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4810150/D.. (please no dailyfail flame)
2018-05-20 21:58
first of all I saw it, secondly there is a pen icon next to your comment revealing it has been edited. thirdly, irrelevant study fourthly, this will probably interest you: dhmo.org/facts.html
2018-05-20 22:08
yeah, pretty funny how you can be 100% sure that you /will/ find a study supporting your arbitrary assumption before even entering keywords such as "schizophrenia + meat" into google. :)
2018-05-20 22:12
your comment reveals your cluelessness
2018-05-20 22:14
here, have another cute yuri image: i.ytimg.com/vi/U6_YRENrWpw/maxresdefault..
2018-05-20 22:18
I'm not vegan (at all), but you can build a vegan diet that is on par with one that includes meat...at least. I do a ton of athletics and see people outperform plenty of others as vegan - I am not advocating it, but I don't advocate bullshit either which is what you're spreading. You views are broad and uneducated, a terrible combination. Your thoughts on the evolution of the human brain and meat are also false, without even the need for studies - just look at animals that consume far more meat than humans, have existed longer and are not more evolved. You swap aggression for information in your rationale lmao
2018-05-19 19:30
the fact that you say evolotion of the human brain and meat are also false even without studies is exactly why you think how you do. You believe anything you want and facts are besides the point for you it seems. It has been proven time and time again that the development of human intelligence and the consumation of meat have a connection. Now.. I am not saying it is the only thing that developed the brain to where it is ofcourse not. but without it we wouldnt be where we are now.
2018-05-19 21:26
which is true and different from what you said "because of meat our brains evolved to the point that we are at now" lmao
2018-05-20 18:39
human brain started evolving when it learned to eat cooked meat. that is like super basic high school bio and there is more research on it than vegans in mexico
2018-05-20 20:40
not he mexico insult!! Anything else! lmao
2018-05-20 21:44
you are obvious burger brain m8
2018-05-20 21:54
so formed from a lot of meat - meaning you called me intelligent, ty ty
2018-05-20 21:55
burger brain is an insult towards less educated individuals residing in the US. Having capable brains does not imply you have intelligence - the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills, if you spend your whole day eating soy burgers while raging in hltv
2018-05-20 22:03
brains as in plural? sweet
2018-05-20 22:04
”individuals” is also plural
2018-05-20 22:17
but when I say dumbcunt please understand, im just using for you
2018-05-20 22:24
it is two separate words btw, but you can “use for me” as you wish
2018-05-20 22:46
Not vegan, the options and infrastructure already exist to provide said diet though - a vast majority could switch As for your animals vs people thing, some people are definitely worth less than any animal - you're a solid example of an easy choice for me
2018-05-19 19:33
reported for harrasment
2018-05-20 20:42
reported for being a giant vagina, category of report: medical discovery
2018-05-20 21:45
let me guess your last account got 10years
2018-05-20 21:55
1 month
2018-05-20 21:56
Veganism = cancer
2018-05-19 13:22
i thought meat caused cancer tho :thinking:
2018-05-19 13:24
everything causes cancer now days
2018-05-19 13:26
but surely meat causes more cancer than fruit and veggies? :thinking:
2018-05-19 13:36
#25
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
where did you read that my friend, on articles of vegans on internet ? :D and name me one person you know that had cancer because of eating meat
2018-05-19 13:41
go read some articles, there are many documenting the matter if you don't believe me look it up
2018-05-19 13:42
#32
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
I don't believe random articles on internet and name me one person you know that had cancer because of eating meat :D
2018-05-19 13:43
they arent random articles, documented by well established bodies, google is your friend why should i tell you if anybody i know has had cancer? what will that prove? completely illogical
2018-05-19 13:45
#36
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
It's to show you that no one died by eating meat
2018-05-19 13:46
illogical i know 0 people who have died to cancer by your logic, that means 0 people have died to cancer? how does that make sense, please use your brain before you comment
2018-05-19 13:48
#39
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
Then give me from the internet number of people dying from cancer caused by meat. And if YES it's rly causing cancer, it must be 0.01% chance and if you dont eat meat because of that than u must have serious problemes
2018-05-19 13:50
Then give me from the internet number of people dying from cancer caused by meat. get it urself lazy
2018-05-19 13:51
#44
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
didn't find anything
2018-05-19 13:53
" if you dont eat meat because of that than u must have serious problemes" no the point of not eating meat is because meat is unnecessary and inhumane, we can live fine without it and all you do by eating it is kill innocent animals
2018-05-19 13:54
#65
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
So you was telling me that eating meat causes cancer, and now you turned to "meat is unnecessary and inhumane" ...
2018-05-19 14:44
yes meat is unnecessary and inhumane
2018-05-20 04:24
wrong
2018-05-20 21:11
bullshit, their is so much variability in human existence ... that is impossible to connect directly cancer with meat, maybe it wasn't meat but oil used to hit it ?
2018-05-19 14:51
#88
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
Don't try to argument with vegan
2018-05-20 19:25
#135
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Finland qBeY 
monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Classification/Cl.. Just scroll to processed meat. It's in the same group one with for example mercury, alcohol and tobacco
2018-05-20 22:31
lol, alcoholics live for years and do you know how much they drink ... in that amount even oxygen is harmful
2018-05-20 23:14
#140
Ex6TenZ | 
Finland qBeY 
lol sure
2018-05-20 23:51
2018-05-21 04:09
#134
Ex6TenZ | 
Finland qBeY 
dude WHO classifies processed meat as class one carcinogen
2018-05-20 22:25
Comments like this = uneducated
2018-05-20 22:20
yes
2018-05-19 13:32
#20
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
veganism is for people without perssonality, they don't do it for the cause, they just want to show off on youtube :D respect to the rare people rly doing it for animals
2018-05-19 13:37
99% of vegans arent youtubers tho?
2018-05-19 13:39
#26
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
or they want to show off on forums
2018-05-19 13:42
#31
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Sweden RRosenberg 
Well that ain’t true
2018-05-19 13:43
#103
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United States eyaSpiers 
what about buddhists bro they don't even have internet
2018-05-20 21:35
#159
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United Kingdom IgglePiggle 
they never shut up about it though
2018-05-21 09:50
YES
2018-05-19 13:42
#29
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Sweden RRosenberg 
I’m already vegan so yea do it :))
2018-05-19 13:42
And you swedes wonder why muslims take over your country. You are all getting weakminded by veganism
2018-05-19 16:59
#83
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Sweden RRosenberg 
Why would I get “Week minded” by not eating other animals? It’s called having a heart
2018-05-20 09:54
>have heart >support modern day slavery pick one
2018-05-20 21:11
#34
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France BadGones 
Beef > vegan medium rare, 16 oz. /close
2018-05-19 13:47
but it didnt answer the question :(
2018-05-19 13:51
yes do it pussy
2018-05-19 13:52
why/why not
2018-05-19 13:57
#137
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Sweden RRosenberg 
Healthier and no animals needs to suffer for your food to be produced
2018-05-20 22:54
Everyone should come to this by himself, don't need to force anyone to do it.
2018-05-19 13:53
not forcing anyone, just asking a question and opening up the forums to discourse, involve yourself if you would like to
2018-05-19 13:57
Nah, I'm too lazy to argue with trolls right now. xD
2018-05-19 13:57
all good brother KKona
2018-05-19 13:58
Yep. :)
2018-05-19 13:59
i will retire the thread for now as i am getting ready to go to bed (its 8pm here in PERTH, Western Australia aka the texas of Australia KKona)
2018-05-19 13:59
#56
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Germany Delf1n 
Not full Vegan but reducing meat to a minimum should be good.
2018-05-19 14:01
exactly instead of 10 chicken wings eat only 3 but with alot of veggies.
2018-05-19 14:05
thats gay
2018-05-19 14:19
so's cutting off little boy's foreskins
2018-05-21 09:46
no, not everyone is gay
2018-05-19 14:01
ok gay
2018-05-19 14:10
Vegan or not, it doesn't matter. If you wanna be real about animals and environment, let's talk about it. A lot of food products (including vegan products) are made by palm oil, my country has a lot of western companies set up their palm oil business, this creates ton of issues for our rainforest. Water is not flowing to rice fields, orangutan lose their habitat, air pollution (the companies burn the forest to open their palm fields, some people die. If you wanna be real, don't be hypocrite. Eat some grass like a cow do, then you are good.
2018-05-19 14:32
#91
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Finland j0bodi 
Did you know that the biggest cause of rainforest deforestation is caused by soy plantations? And the majority of soy is being fed to the livestock.
2018-05-20 19:41
No, I always thought the cause was just removing the forest to make more room for livestock, but removing it for fodder also makes sense. That's really interesting
2018-05-21 01:01
Yes that too, that's why I hate those vegans, they are hypocrites. If they really wanna talk about environment, let's talk the real one. Western benefits the most of 3rd world countries resource.
2018-05-21 09:24
That's why I said, vegan or not it does not matter. It keeps destroying, few years ago there were people sick and died because of the deforestation and maybe a lot of them but it was covered and not exposed, child labour, orangutan is dying, sumatran tiger has its population decreased, how do you justify that?
2018-05-21 12:17
#165
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Finland j0bodi 
Please do not reply if you don't even read the comment in the first place.
2018-05-21 18:28
#66
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Denmark Xipingu 
Vegans aren't saints, a lot of shit dies too to make what they need, and everyone who says otherwise is a hypocrite.
2018-05-19 14:46
#73
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Poland HotMuslim 
proof?
2018-05-19 17:05
#78
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Denmark Xipingu 
It's well known that companies that turn to vegan products still sacrifice a lot of nature to achieve fields of crop and harvest. There are even vegan products (this has been in the news) that contains ingredients you will find in animal protein - not all of it, but a certain part of it. It isn't helping the burning of forests either, and you can bet your arse the veganism industry has a lot of corruption as well, as it's controlled by governmental institutions in most countries unless you do it yourself. Realistically, it's a very small minority who does it on their own. dailyutahchronicle.com/2017/04/18/enviro.. dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1250532/B.. There is no doubt that veganism diets are better than pure animalistic diets, but to call it harmless is fucking retarded. Let's face it, humanity is bad for planet Earth. We always will be, no matter what we do. Also if you want to do it right, you have to do it yourself. Just simply buying it from stores isn't going to help fuck all, because companies doesn't care about cheating to get what they want. Don't believe all you read. Same goes for every other product. Again, in reality, it's just a really small minority who actually does it the right way.
2018-05-19 20:32
#80
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Poland HotMuslim 
animal = eats plants = human eats animal plants = human eats plants its the same but animals need more food than humans
2018-05-19 20:46
#120
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Denmark Xipingu 
Read up on the deforestation of rain forests. No, it's not only what you think.
2018-05-20 22:04
#129
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Poland HotMuslim 
yes for food for the farm animals
2018-05-20 22:19
#130
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Denmark Xipingu 
No. Expanded fields of harvest being filled with chemicals.
2018-05-20 22:20
#144
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Poland HotMuslim 
which animals eat
2018-05-21 00:21
#145
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah but everything else is affected too. You really that gullible?
2018-05-21 00:33
#147
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Poland HotMuslim 
you seem to not understand that you do more harm when you eat meat than when you eat plants
2018-05-21 01:16
#148
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Denmark Xipingu 
You might, but with all the other things we already do, it won't make much of a difference. So I'd rather just be able to make the courses I want, rather than make do with something less.
2018-05-21 01:49
are you fucking completely brainwashed ? do you realize animals eat each other naturally ? what about those ? we should eradicate all carnovores on the planet now because your mental disease ? pain and survival is part of our nature. the fact that we started to cook and eat meat when we discovered fire was the biggest leap in the development of our frontal cortex for example , but who am i talking to .....
2018-05-21 01:58
#153
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Poland HotMuslim 
dude you are dumb af lmao do other animals keep animals in fucking cages and feed them antibiotics and hormons? lmao you are the brainwashed one just open your eyes
2018-05-21 02:01
you're just dumb , 7yo maturity and 0 education
2018-05-21 23:35
#169
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Poland HotMuslim 
maybe you dont have any education
2018-05-22 20:44
Look up a definition of veganism.
2018-05-20 22:00
#121
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Denmark Xipingu 
Lol. nt
2018-05-20 22:05
Your highly developed meathead brain supplemented by hormonal growth fluid of a cow should really be able process this..maybe you are missing hen periods for extra brain power?
2018-05-20 22:07
#127
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Denmark Xipingu 
If your English spelling is what I get out of going vegan, I'd rather not. That said, I refuse to stop eating delicious combinations of world class food for tofu and vegetables. I already tried that, and I can't eat tofu. Not even when prepared right. And the substitude vegan meat you can buy at least in Denmark is filled even more with chemicals that is dangerous (obviously to make it taste like meat). No thanks. Even more funny, areas of land are being cleaned in order for corporations to produce more for vegans, because they have to since it's becoming more and more popular. Chemicals are used here. "Oh but they aren't, because farmers and corps says they aren't using that" - Yeah, and have you been there to inspect yourself? If you haven't noticed, corporations are gladly lying to eat your money. No doubt Veganism is more healthy, but risk-free and non-problematic, it is not.
2018-05-20 22:18
Did you know that the majority of the "fake meats" get bought by non vegans trying to cut down on animal products? ;-) Because most vegans know these processed foods are of course just as unhealthy. Since when do you HAVE to eat tofu? ;-) Implying every vegan eats tofu and fake meats! lol Sure, just like 90% of the rain forest destruction is to either grow food for livestock or for actual livestock. Like..your thought process is a bit flawed. You do realize that vegans need waaaaaaaay less farmland? Growing an animal for a year and feeding it corn, soy, grains etc. for a year plus water compared to eating the stuff yourself..dude you could live off of that for ages. :D Chemicals? Lol bru, so the meat eaters eat the rice, potatoes etc. without chemicals and the vegans with chemicals! Gotcha! It's all separated! And of course all the animals (which need way more than a human) of course eat only the best organic grains without chemicals! And of course all the meat is organic, which by the way, of course needs more land than conventional meat and it's always without antibiotics, steroids..oh wait 90%+ of livestock is conventional bru..I'm not hating you are just uninformed. And of course chemicals should never be used, but livestock only exaggerates the whole issue since you need so much more land, food and water to raise the animal in the first place.
2018-05-20 23:28
#71
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Portugal sevn_2 
why would i stop eating meat (which i love) to become vegan???? no sense
2018-05-19 17:01
#77
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Portugal Zedonp 
bcuz plants don't ahve feelings but birds apparently are very intelligent loving creatures Oh and bcuz fuck species evolution and self ecosystem contrl while you are at it
2018-05-19 19:34
veganism is for faggots
2018-05-19 17:02
not true, gays LOVE meat
2018-05-20 18:40
#76
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Portugal Zedonp 
Is a disease. Its actually the lack of brain function but you can move your body all the same. Weird, maybe they become like plants after eating so many of them
2018-05-19 19:33
yes exactly, veganism is only for girls cause they get meat in their vagene but men should not vegan
2018-05-20 18:41
So that's why almost all the animals eat only plants. Now I understand!
2018-05-20 21:59
#79
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Portugal DeadStar 
If it's for health reasons no. I don't eat meat, but I like fish so i'm not even vegetarian
2018-05-19 20:36
veganism is a bad disease dont let it infect your brain
2018-05-20 18:40
If u wanna turn into a semicrazy teenage girl then go full vegan
2018-05-20 19:30
#90
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Europe L30n@rd0 
yes
2018-05-20 19:33
yes
2018-05-20 19:42
#111
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Brazil razorheadd 
let people eat what the fuck they want as long as don't hurt other humans. veganism = ass-pain
2018-05-20 21:55
do what u want its your life dont listen to anyone. go vegan if u want animals will still die from greengas and other animals.
2018-05-20 22:04
#132
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Barbecue season is in full swing for me so no thanks :D
2018-05-20 22:21
#141
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Portugal Leg_Day 
nop i like burguers
2018-05-20 23:52
I arent vegan but are vegetarian AMA
2018-05-20 23:53
go_vegan_ffs :D
2018-05-21 01:54
also vegetarian. can't stop eating cheese, its too good.
2018-05-20 23:59
I suggest you to read "Breaking the Food Seduction" by Neal Barnard then. :)
2018-05-21 01:59
reading jeez
2018-05-21 02:07
?? Reply needs to have actual content
2018-05-21 09:30
sure , if you want to go back to homo erectus status , why not
2018-05-21 01:52
#161
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Australia CaoNiQuanJia 
well if animals dont wanna be eaten, why they made out of food?
2018-05-21 12:19
my thoughts, exactly. the mother cows don't even know what to do with their milk. so instead of letting it go to waste, why not make use of it? and surely there's also a reason why it's called "spare ribs."
2018-05-21 14:53
#166
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Finland j0bodi 
Hmm... Cows are mammals just like humans. They produce milk for their babies. In the milk industry calves are being taken away from their mother so that the cows can be milked. Calves are either killed in their first days of life or raised for meat. Many cows are only able to produce milk for 3-5 (they can live up to 20y in a normal conditions) years, after which they are sent to the slaughter house for meat. Most of the meat served in the Mc Donalds for example is from spent dairy cows. This is what I've read at least.
2018-05-21 18:42
interesting theory. but how do you explain "spare ribs"? the name suggests that pigs have no use for them?
2018-05-21 19:06
#162
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Norway m0sifer 
it's retarded so no.
2018-05-21 12:19
everything vegans eat is man-made. Don't go against nature and end up malnourished.
2018-05-21 18:18
if u want to go vegan cuz of animals and the enviroment its dumb but if u go vegan for health u sure can do and it will help u alot.
2018-05-22 20:45
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