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“SK TIER 1” -sheep
Happy | 
France happy_2_major_niko_0_major 
hello lady and gentlemen of HLTV.org today I tell you why SK are most definitely 100% not tier 1 team, as of writing this, SK have 2/5 actual players, the other 3 are big deadweight. Marcelo “coldzera” David and his caveman friend Fernando “fer” Alvarenga are currently the only 2 players on SK actually doing anything. Just yesterday SK won a tournament, this must make you think “haha Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major is idiot he just say SK are bad even though they win tournament” this is true that they did win tournament but it was approximately an tier 4-5 tournament. SK had to play 4 maps to win this goofy tournament and their opponents were hardly a threat. They had only 2, Winstrike who is ex-QBF who are what I like to call “lucky legends” and Hellraisers who also only have 2 players worth noting. them being Özgür “woxic” Eker and Issa “ISSAA” Murad so as you can see this tournament only have big lows and losers in it. so SK are not tier 1 -happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-06-11 16:42
Yez
2018-06-11 16:45
thank Mr g3xcoachdabcz
2018-06-11 17:02
#87
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Estonia [007] 
"Tier4" they go to final vs winstrike that are like tier2 able to upset tier1 teams
2018-06-12 20:22
#124
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Norway 142beni 
no
2018-06-13 12:17
Rofl
2018-06-13 14:01
#133
GruBy | 
Poland LooseHS 
never heard of winstrike
2018-06-13 14:03
#146
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Slovakia JACK35 
its rooster from QBF but they change org for money (10 mil). they are major legend from boston...
2018-06-13 16:03
#147
GruBy | 
Poland LooseHS 
oh shit didt know that that happened i know qbf but u didit know they changed orgs
2018-06-13 16:11
+1 Mr [007]
2018-06-15 12:19
bczz sign my gf tits pls thank <3
2018-06-14 08:38
Nope, but i can sign ur dick without any problem <3
2018-06-14 13:51
+1 <3
2018-06-14 18:35
bump
2018-06-11 17:07
agreed 100% but coldzera is baiting, he is shit
2018-06-11 17:09
#6
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Every player in HLTV Top10 is a baiter.
2018-06-11 17:13
nope
2018-06-11 17:31
#15
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Yup. Even aggressive top10 players bait. s1mple baits Edward and Zeus on executes, fer baits Taco/Stewie and rain baits karrigan. Which is a good thing. Baiting is an important part of CS.
2018-06-11 17:39
#19
NiKo | 
France Dealotts 
NiKo dont bait
2018-06-11 20:00
#24
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
He baits karrigan and sometimes olof.
2018-06-11 20:07
#25
NiKo | 
France Dealotts 
reported
2018-06-11 20:08
#26
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
xD
2018-06-11 20:10
#88
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Estonia [007] 
xD
2018-06-12 20:24
#151
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Spain JustNo 
and sometimes olof.
2018-06-13 22:41
Fer, who plays literally without sound and is the defition of braindead god entry because he has no sound, baits his teammates Ok buddy
2018-06-12 09:07
#60
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
He baits Taco/Stewie on executes aka. they are first in, they die, he trades. Thats called baiting. Stewie is also first out mid on cache if theyre taking it together. Fer is 2nd. He is baiting. And thats not a bad thing. All you cucks on this site think baiting is somehow bad. Its not. Its necessary.
2018-06-12 14:05
Fer was first in on t side and solopushing on ct side all 2017. You're delusional
2018-06-12 17:47
#67
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Was never first in on executes. Taco was always bait like Stewie is now. Youre blind or baiting. Good day.
2018-06-12 18:14
U are the one either blind or baiting, taco was entry in 2016 And what about ct side? How is fer a baiter on ct side? And how is s1mple a baiter when he has the highest amount of opening kills of his team?
2018-06-12 18:51
#82
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Nigga are you dumb or what ? Theres no such thing as baiter on CT side unless you have pracced setups where one dude takes aggro and the other peeks out. Bottom line is on executes in SK its 1. TacoStewie 2. FerFallen 3. ColdBoltz. Therefore fer is baiting. End of story. s1mple is an AWPER so sure hes gonna get a lot of opening kills, on CT especially. Obviously thats gonna bump his opening kills %. On executes and set strats however HE STILL BAITS EDWARD AND ZEUS. And thats a good thing because you want s1mple last alive. But that doesnt change the fact that hes baiting. If s1mple was first in every round his ratings would be AT LEAST .2 worse. Thats a fact. Hes the best player in the world at still if hes first in he will die 80% of the time when playing vs a decent team. Thats how CS works. And thats why all the best players are baiters to make sure theyre last alive to close out rounds.
2018-06-12 20:09
Yeah, no
2018-06-12 22:32
#127
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Denmark devv9x 
Giving a trade is baiting now? LuL Nice b8 m8, enjoy swag carreer and leave tier 1 CS.
2018-06-13 13:44
#135
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
No. Trades are results of baits. Just because you think baiting is a bad thing doesnt mean people who know the game think the same way. Its not a bad thing, its necessary. One dude goes first, hes THE BAIT. If theres a dude who goes in first every single round then yes he is getting baited. End of story.
2018-06-13 14:20
There's a difference between baiting and trading. Baiting isn't elaborating on a Sacrifice or duel. Please don't think the way you do. This is why pugs are so cancer. You need selflessness to win games. You'll understand that when you get better at the game.
2018-06-13 08:47
#134
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Are you actually fucking braindead ? Ive stated multiple times that baiting is an essential part of the game you absolute fucking moron lmfao. Trades happen after one dude got baited. So no trades arent baiting, theyre a result of baiting. And indeed that process does require selfnessness from the guy going first. The fact that your deluded little brain has developed a negative connotation for the word BAIT doesnt change that the process of letting somone else go first (who then becomes THE BAIT) is considered baiting. AND THIS IS NECESSARY as I stated like 5 billion times already. You probably didnt even read half of what I wrote here and if you did you most likely lack the mental capacity to understand it.
2018-06-13 14:17
Your lack of comprehension of most replies to you seems to be your main issue here bud. I'm glad you agree good on you. However as you can tell most here think what you said was written to reflect something different. As for mental capacity it's hard to speak about intelligence really over the internet but I'm sure you'll do just fine stacking shelves or being jobless etc. I'm glad you're getting by though hopefully life will get better for you to not be too angry over misunderstandings. Cleft.
2018-06-13 14:23
#137
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Lmao. Im curious, tell me how could I have made it anymore clear that baiting is essential to the game ? Im serious I said it like 5 times throughout my various posts on this topic. So how in the fucking fuck are you just gonna turn up here, tell me Im bad and that I dont understand how baiting is an essential part of the game ? Wouldnt that confuse you as well ?
2018-06-13 14:26
You've had to explain yourself five times, I'm sure that tells you enough no? Best of luck making threads in the future x
2018-06-13 14:31
#140
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Nah. 5x to 5 different people. You just didnt read my other replies and came in swinging thinking you know whats up. Expected from a nation that voted themselves into financial decline for the benefit of fake nationalism. Facts and context are irrelevant when you can just spout out some opinions right ? My points were perfectly laid out for anyone with a brain to read and understand. None of those people here though I guess. Good day bb :p
2018-06-13 14:42
That's my point, so your original thread was SO hard to comprehend you had to explain it to everyone reading it. Hence why we are currently having this conversation. I won't lie to you I don't usually go through comments just incase OP meant something different. That sounds time consuming.
2018-06-13 14:54
#142
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Heres my original thread you initially replied to: Yup. Even aggressive top10 players bait. s1mple baits Edward and Zeus on executes, fer baits Taco/Stewie and rain baits karrigan. Which is a good thing. Baiting is an important part of CS. Explain to me how exactly you deduce from this that Im unaware that baiting is necessary ? Its like 100 words and ends on "Which is a good thing. Baiting is an important part of CS." My explanations arent bad or misleading at all. Im a medstudent, I explain shit all the time. No sir, you just didnt care to try and get my point and wanted to tell someone your opinion. Just admit it, it happens and we both know its true.
2018-06-13 15:06
Same goes for everyone else that has misunderstood? I already said I agree, just we both had a different way of explaining it. Baiting being conceived usually of someone baiting a teammate to not trade or play off the situation. - this is what I understood by your comment. I love the need to tell people you're a med student. Usually people who make it in the world don't shout about how smart they think they are. Don't be so angry, then you might be better at explaining yourself or understanding others. Would be a good habit for you if you plan on being an MD
2018-06-13 15:20
#144
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Baiting can be good or bad depending on further proceedings after the bait. I have absolutely no idea what I said that made you think I consider baiting something bad and my guess is Im not getting a quote of an oh so easy to misinterpret passage I wrote either. I wouldnt usually think Im smart but this thread has made me rethink that. Thx for the confidence, Ill wander off a happy narcissist now. Cheers and lets leave it at that.
2018-06-13 15:36
+1 for you Mr SK_IS_OVERRATED2
2018-06-12 09:01
#5
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India hell_razerd 
Definitely true..Bt also depends on ones definition of tier 1... If u consider mouz/fnc/Nip tier 1 then even SK is t1..Otherwise only Astralis,Faze,Navi n maybe liquid are tier1 atm...
2018-06-11 17:10
#9
NAF | 
Latvia asmofella 
Tier 1 Astralis. Tier 2 Faze, Liquid, Navi. Tier 3 Mouz, Fnatic, SK. SK is a level below Fnatic, Mouz, but it's not right to make tier4 just to put SK in it. Below SK there is VP and other teams that has FalleN Astralis is another lever for now, but it's matter of time till someone from Tier2, can really challenge them. i can even put Navi in Tier3, but Liquid/Faze deserves spot in Tier2.
2018-06-11 17:17
#14
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India hell_razerd 
U mean ranking 2nd, 3rd leads to being tier 2 ??
2018-06-11 17:33
#18
NAF | 
Latvia asmofella 
no men, just fact that astralis looks unbeatable right now. and faze struggles with stand ins. Don't wanna insult you with SK or tier 2, it's just my opinion. Liquid had a 3 chances to beat Astralis, they didnt but they seems to be team that most likely will do it. and faze won 1/3 times, other 2 times get destroyed. it's just my opinion of tier 1 cause i dont see any team right now like Astralis, in fact i dont like that team but i should not ignore results. And Faze, Liquid seem to be 2 best teams right now, without Astralis ,since Liquid beat navi 2:0 and Mouz 2:0 they deserves a spot there. Tier2 is like Tier1, moths ago before Astralis added Magisk that fucked up scene and tiers.
2018-06-11 19:58
#30
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India hell_razerd 
True....Astra does seem to be a tier above every1 atm...
2018-06-11 20:26
tier -1 GOD Astralis Mr hell_razerd
2018-06-15 14:30
#17
NAF | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
D E L U S I O N A L
2018-06-11 18:23
#20
NiKo | 
France Dealotts 
FaZe tier2 ROFLLLLLL
2018-06-11 20:01
#22
NAF | 
Latvia asmofella 
you can see my profile,i am fan of faze, and Niko, but they can't beat Astralis right now. Why would i put Faze tier1, ? if they can't beat astralis. They need to find 5th player or get back Olofmeister. It's just situation now i think, nobody can beat Astralis.
2018-06-11 20:05
#28
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Brazil PrazJb 
I define more or less from the top 1 to the top 10 = tier 1 top 11 through 25 = tier 2 top 26 up to 50 = tier 3 then the rest I try to see the history of the team, an example would be LG Even being in the top 45 they play and earn from tier 1/2 timer so we can easily put them in tier 2, another example and Sprout even being in the top 51 he plays tier 2 championships and easily wins the matches so it can be considered tier 2, but this is the criterion that I use, you can set the tier the way you prefer.
2018-06-11 20:13
#31
NAF | 
Latvia asmofella 
you can make tiers as much as you like. for example 1 rank = 1 tier. many people = many opinion. yes.
2018-06-11 20:58
#91
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United Kingdom Jobelspice 
I agree with this tbh
2018-06-12 20:32
#98
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Brazil PrazJb 
:) And a fair way to rank the tier
2018-06-12 21:14
#111
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United Kingdom Jobelspice 
Exactly, it's a lot more actual ranking - based and less judgement
2018-06-13 08:50
#32
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Sweden X-rAy 
SK beat liquid so SK worse tier than liquid?
2018-06-11 20:59
#33
NAF | 
Latvia asmofella 
So does NRG but nobody is saying NRG is top1/2/3 or better tier than Liquid. it was sure an upset, it happens. like astralis vs faze. in long term at the moment men Liquid,Faze, Astralis are top teams, astralis way above other 2. rest are there to just be.
2018-06-11 21:01
#171
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Europe DJkpot 
Navi? Sayin' LULquid is better then NaVi? OmegaLuL
2018-06-14 08:46
Stopped reading at "Tier 1 Astralis." Do you even know what a TIER is ? HOW CAN ONE TEAM REPRESENT A ENTIRE TIER ?! WTF /facepalm
2018-06-11 21:22
#58
NAF | 
Latvia asmofella 
have you ever jerked off in public ?
2018-06-12 13:19
typical hltv reply /noob
2018-06-12 15:05
#78
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Europe StratilaSs 
mouz is not at the same level as nip or fnatic though .they are better
2018-06-12 19:20
#7
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2018-06-11 17:14
thank Mr Trkmag :)
2018-06-13 13:39
#8
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Finland SergeantCatt 
No fnx = no major :(
2018-06-11 17:14
+1 Mr SergeantCatt
2018-06-11 17:30
#10
device | 
Liechtenstein mary69 
+1
2018-06-11 17:19
thank Mr mary69
2018-06-12 18:13
#69
device | 
Liechtenstein mary69 
no problem mr happy 2 major niko 0 major
2018-06-12 18:58
#11
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Germany MyDadOwnsHLTV 
Ok I guess
2018-06-11 17:29
thank Mr MyDadOwnsHLTV
2018-06-11 18:16
#27
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Germany MyDadOwnsHLTV 
Yw. But I didn't even read
2018-06-11 20:12
#41
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Brazil olocoxd 
lol
2018-06-11 21:33
#21
NiKo | 
France Dealotts 
More one
2018-06-11 20:02
what Mr Dealotts?
2018-06-11 21:12
- won the last 2 bo3 against liquid - not tier 1 pick one
2018-06-11 20:05
ill take both thanks Mr lucasxvirtual :)
2018-06-12 08:46
greedy Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-06-13 05:10
#29
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
saw your nickname, thought this was again some shitty bait like every other thread is here read it, smh true
2018-06-11 20:16
not true Mr qoznyyy
2018-06-11 21:03
#39
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
bad formating, meant that the text was true
2018-06-11 21:28
yes my format usually arent very good :(
2018-06-11 21:31
I agree mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major. What you think about current fnatic and GOLDENs place in this team?
2018-06-11 21:07
hello Mr teamplayer2005 i make post here about this matter already! :) hltv.org/forums/threads/1794232/xizt-des..
2018-06-12 08:25
8\8, brudda happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-06-11 21:14
thank you Mr EnVyUs_1_major_FaZe_0_major
2018-06-12 07:54
Agreed, brother.
2018-06-12 08:47
thank :)
2018-06-12 09:40
#49
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Australia MrWiseGuy 
Spot on wise one
2018-06-12 09:48
thank Mr WiseMan, not as wise as you though i am sure!
2018-06-13 09:09
Good man.
2018-06-12 09:55
good name :)
2018-06-12 10:04
Do you know that niko watched one of your threads XD he posted it on instgram story.
2018-06-12 10:06
yes i have seen :) i have displayed it as an achievement upon my profie the thread wasnt actually mine funnily enough it was someone writing about me :P
2018-06-12 10:22
Happy play for EnvyUS Academy, so it basically doesn't count
2018-06-12 09:57
-1
2018-06-12 15:45
#52
Hentaii | 
United States rjq 
+1
2018-06-12 09:58
thank Mr rjq
2018-06-12 13:57
#55
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France FanchD 
SK tier 4
2018-06-12 10:13
+1 Mr FanchD
2018-06-12 12:27
#63
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Germany zeolikk 
Absolute +1, you should be elected to be the president of hltv
2018-06-12 15:47
thank Mr zeolikk
2018-06-12 16:26
if sk tier 2 g2 and envy tier -30. LOLOLOLOL Only fallen hava more hystori than all french players
2018-06-12 19:01
you is like thorin
2018-06-12 19:02
pls dont compare me to the ginger loser Mr thomas_lipsky
2018-06-13 23:08
why so true
2018-06-12 19:02
why, i explain why Mr Glaps12
2018-06-14 16:46
KennyS < FalleN and Cold Scream < Stewie and fer Happy < Fer NBK < Fer, Cold and stewie no one care about the others french players...
2018-06-12 19:09
#74
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Ukraine kek1 
Mad brazilian KennyS better than cold and fallen
2018-06-12 19:08
k, so wht they have mpre championships and mvps?
2018-06-12 19:09
#76
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Ukraine kek1 
Right now its about individual skills not champioships
2018-06-12 19:10
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA. wait, wasnt a joke. ok, they're better
2018-06-12 19:12
this is definitely the worst bait ive ever read lol -8888888888888888888888888/8
2018-06-12 19:40
#80
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Ukraine kek1 
+1
2018-06-12 19:48
+999999999999
2018-06-12 19:50
Noob
2018-06-12 20:33
happy < fer wtfff
2018-06-12 20:16
lol nt fer braindead caveman
2018-06-12 20:26
Mr. Happy_2_major_niko_0_major I said that compare fer and Happy is ridicolous, non sense and an obv b8
2018-06-12 22:28
they're both lurkers hahahahahaha
2018-06-13 01:47
yes but Happy is also IGL
2018-06-13 11:40
fer lurker? lol lurking requires IQ, i can go outside my house, pick up a stone on the road, and know it has a higher chance of making a smart play than fer
2018-06-13 23:09
hes a lurker in ct and entry and trader in TR
2018-06-13 23:13
no he is fool
2018-06-13 23:13
lol. bro am brasilian i know this
2018-06-13 23:14
coldzera fer ISSAA woxic ????? ez tier1?
2018-06-12 20:10
cry ez mibr next major win.
2018-06-12 20:13
+1
2018-06-12 20:15
Didn't read. Reported for been retarded. Too many years mixing blood with turkey community at Paris made France be a shit like Brasil.
2018-06-12 20:31
sorry you didnt like Mr IwillHelpYou
2018-06-12 21:04
I read once you don't call me monkey. Tks Mrs baget (I had a nice time in France to be honest) I agree with you. Could be 3/5 players but fallen is really underperforming. In many tournaments it was pretty clear he was the best awp, but today...
2018-06-12 21:49
i did not call you monkey Mr IwillHelpYou why you say this?
2018-06-12 22:50
I mean, I said that I was reading what you wrote because you was cool and educated when answer me. "read"was in the past mode. Sorry for my englando.
2018-06-13 03:25
#92
felps | 
Brazil LukeCS 
0/8
2018-06-12 20:32
sorry you didn’t like Mr LukeCS
2018-06-13 13:18
expected thread from france muslim
2018-06-12 20:34
nice bait woxic noob lol
2018-06-12 21:05
-1 woxic is king
2018-06-13 00:12
that's what i meant!
2018-06-13 10:20
oh it just looks like you said nice bait, woxic noob
2018-06-13 10:43
I though you meant they are garbage, nice misunderstanding🤔
2018-06-13 10:45
ah i see :) no ofc not
2018-06-13 11:21
delete
2018-06-12 21:07
why Mr Naxlite? it is the truth i speak
2018-06-13 10:19
Nice grammar “an tier 4-5 tournament”
2018-06-13 00:18
look at my flag
2018-06-13 08:31
Sorry that was my retarded brother
2018-06-13 23:29
I see, no harm done
2018-06-14 08:37
+1 Mr. happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-06-13 01:50
thank Mr redw0w
2018-06-13 09:40
caveman friend that made me giggle. your first bait that is above 0/8
2018-06-13 11:41
wtf bruv? all my baits are quality innit Mr TypicalBritishRoadman
2018-06-13 11:50
nop. usually your baits are as bad as my teeth.
2018-06-13 11:51
no they are always quality
2018-06-13 12:15
#128
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Brazil CaioOlive 
Sounds reasonable. I would just add a mention that Stewie sometimes play the game too, but it's rare to happen.
2018-06-13 13:48
#129
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Portugal Skyer_ 
Well if you say that SK Gaming is not a tier 1 team, let's see how they will play in Belo Horizonte..! With teams like Faze, Liquid and Mousesports on it… They ranked up 2 positions recently and I think they will continue rising and with time they will reach the top. :D #letsgosk
2018-06-13 13:54
#130
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India shakaal004 
and for your information they opted for going to these tier 3-4 tournaments just to have bootcamps and practice for big tournaments like this one bcoz SK gaming was not giving them the bootcamps.
2018-06-13 14:00
hello lady and gentlemen of HLTV.org today I tell you why SK are most definitely 100% not tier 1 team, as of writing this, SK have 2/5 actual players, the other 3 are big deadweight. Marcelo “coldzera” David and his caveman friend Fernando “fer” Alvarenga are currently the only 2 players on SK actually doing anything. Just yesterday SK won a tournament, this must make you think “haha Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major is idiot he just say SK are bad even though they win tournament” this is true that they did win tournament but it was approximately an tier 4-5 tournament. SK had to play 4 maps to win this goofy tournament and their opponents were hardly a threat. They had only 2, Winstrike who is ex-QBF who are what I like to call “lucky legends” and Hellraisers who also only have 2 players worth noting. them being Özgür “woxic” Eker and Issa “ISSAA” Murad so as you can see this tournament only have big lows and losers in it. so SK are not tier 1 -happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-06-13 14:01
thank Mr killermemestarrr good post
2018-06-15 09:03
yes
2018-06-15 11:57
#138
FalleN | 
Germany NumsaB 
you are right in saying that Sk isnt t1, but your argumentation is bs and does not say anything about SK being bad atm
2018-06-13 14:27
they are though you don’t need proof to see that
2018-06-14 13:28
#145
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Europe Hempxz 
agree... but no french teams in tier1 scene so sk,g2,envyus tier2
2018-06-13 15:40
+1 Mr Hempxz
2018-06-13 22:40
#152
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Europe Hempxz 
thx mr happy
2018-06-13 22:41
haha Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major is idiot he just say SK are bad even though they win tournament
2018-06-13 16:14
good name Mr hltv_baiter
2018-06-13 16:38
#153
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Armenia 1915 
Didnt read but i agree
2018-06-13 22:43
thank Mr 1915
2018-06-13 23:00
#157
ShahZaM | 
Brazil lzzrj 
SK by far isn't tier 1 anymore.
2018-06-13 23:10
+1
2018-06-13 23:43
tell me something new
2018-06-13 23:15
im happy to know you already knew this Mr fabsiaN :)
2018-06-14 00:01
#162
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Ukraine Dert38 
Only coldzera plays almost stable. fer is unstable too.
2018-06-13 23:15
sometimes yes he is a bit wonky Mr Dert38 +1
2018-06-13 23:27
You agree that G2 will win Faceit major?
2018-06-14 08:47
fucc no lol I’m not even die hard G2 fan anymore they put me through so much
2018-06-14 09:13
+1 also happyGOD top 1 #RatingMatters
2018-06-14 08:37
thank for stopping by Mr IarentThinkThatz
2018-06-14 13:10
#170
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United States Venom_ 
fucking died at that caveman joke
2018-06-14 08:40
glad you enjoyed Mr Venom_
2018-06-14 12:52
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