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North Macedonia COME HERE
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Greece Phlebas117 
Now you have a legit name (which is accurate because that's where the north part of old macedonia was) And by constitution you declare that you are slavs and have nothing to do with ancient greek macedonians or alexander the great. We are now bros <3
2018-06-13 21:24
#1
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Greece Phlebas117 
/discuss
2018-06-13 21:25
They are not Macedonians,they are half Slavs(Yugoslavians) and half Bulgarians. Their real name is Vardaska /close
2018-06-14 11:19
#101
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Greece Phlebas117 
++++++1
2018-06-14 11:33
Truth and Justice always rise at the end .
2018-06-13 21:26
#3
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Greece Phlebas117 
If there was truth and justice we would have Constantinople by now.
2018-06-13 21:27
cry is free
2018-06-13 23:51
#104
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Greece Phlebas117 
the only reason i cry is because you took a city full of light and culture and turned into world kebab capital
2018-06-14 11:35
#128
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Serbia EKI.CS 
+1 XDDDD
2018-06-14 11:56
+1 It remind me of the LOTR but if mordor got Minas Tirith and filled it with orcs.... Eerily similar
2018-06-14 20:58
#152
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Greece Phlebas117 
xd so sad tho
2018-06-14 21:00
#156
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United States Scvboy1 
Istanbul now lul.
2018-06-14 21:10
Irrelevant.
2018-06-13 21:27
#21
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Greece Phlebas117 
not for me
2018-06-13 21:32
#6
stunna | 
Bulgaria StefooD 
They are ethic Bulgarians!
2018-06-13 21:28
#11
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Greece Phlebas117 
Everyone knows that but they don't want to hear it... what can i say
2018-06-13 21:28
#26
stunna | 
Bulgaria StefooD 
I dont know why some of them are saying that they are the descendants of alexander the great. They have just been brainwashed by the parliament since the Berlin contract (13th july 1878).
2018-06-13 21:35
#28
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Greece Phlebas117 
it was much later than that, when yugoslavia was divided, general tito wanted to prevent bulgaria from annexing south yugoslavia and he named it macedonia to keep it separate (although "north macedonia" is actually "west bulgaria")
2018-06-13 21:37
#30
stunna | 
Bulgaria StefooD 
Yea but because of the Berlin contract, Macedonia ( and other parts) were separated from Bulgaria. Fuck the Great nations:D
2018-06-13 21:41
#32
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Greece Phlebas117 
well back then you guys were quite the cunts as well IIRC
2018-06-13 21:41
#35
stunna | 
Bulgaria StefooD 
Well everyone makes mistakes:D We are humans after all.
2018-06-13 21:44
#38
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Greece Phlebas117 
as far as im concerned you are good guys now so its ok
2018-06-13 21:54
#68
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Europe hltv007 
wait wait wait...how we were the cunts? See it from our point of view: your country just have been freed and Russia tells you:hey here is a treaty with all the bulgarians in one country.We cheered-then the rest of the world powers have their own treaty saying no no no-Bulgaria would be too big-so they intentionally have separated our land.So you can understand why we have fought on the other side-so we can finally unite our people in one country-but alas-maybe never going to happen but who knows..
2018-06-14 00:05
#82
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Europe hltv007 
just to add : I mean it's similar to your history when you lost Constantinople and byzantine anatolia.
2018-06-14 09:50
#108
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Greece Phlebas117 
sort of, because we had constantinople (formerly: byzantium) and anatolia since the days of ancient greece. You guys at some point tried to take some lands from us, almost got outside thessaloniki but you couldn't do it. I mean its totally understandable, but still a cunty move
2018-06-14 11:39
#115
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Europe hltv007 
you have described the history of the whole Europe in that time-everybody wanted land-if you look at the middle ages Europe history everybody fought everybody.Even you were taken over by the roman empire and the crusaders at some point
2018-06-14 11:48
#117
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Greece Phlebas117 
i'm not imperialism-shaming you, just salty we almost lost lands to you. But if anyone was to invade us, I'm glad it was you <3
2018-06-14 11:50
#124
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Europe hltv007 
we even helped you against the arabs-the LOTR scene describes what happened when Tervel came to help and slaughtered 100000 arabs. youtube.com/watch?v=OTVHAIHDRcg
2018-06-14 11:54
#126
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Greece Phlebas117 
+1 you made my day
2018-06-14 11:56
Never heard of a more stupid debate. Billions of euros to pay back, and the parliament is arguing about the naming of a country. Fire 90% of the politicians and you'll save one billion a year.
2018-06-13 21:28
#16
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Greece Phlebas117 
I agree with your neutral point of view, but it's a mater of history not just a name
2018-06-13 21:30
Of course it is true that historical Macedonia doesn't have a lot to do with the region nowadays' Macedonia lies in - but if they call themselves Serbo-Bulgaria nothing will change. Nothing at all. Their culture and heritage stays the same, no matter the naming.
2018-06-13 21:37
#29
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Greece Phlebas117 
as long as they dont claim the history of ancient macedonia and alexander the great, they can call themselves whatever makes them happy
2018-06-13 21:38
That happens everywhere - France claims the heritage of "Charlemagne", actually named Karl, and his residence was in Aachen, Germany. His empire was of Germanic heritage and had nothing to do with France besides being partly on former Roman territories. Today's Greeks aren't Achilles and Alexander, Solon and Agamemnon - and still they claim their heritage - it doesn't matter anyway. Heritage is just a concept to make nationalists feel better.
2018-06-13 21:57
#43
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Greece Phlebas117 
i like you
2018-06-13 22:07
I really glad that this retarded dispute ends
2018-06-13 21:28
#12
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Greece Phlebas117 
it would have ended a long time ago if they just accepted they are slavs
2018-06-13 21:29
#14
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North America squezzi 
They won't pass that change
2018-06-13 21:30
#17
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Greece Phlebas117 
they will or they will stay a poor country
2018-06-13 21:31
#19
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North America squezzi 
The President will veto it
2018-06-13 21:31
#20
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Greece Phlebas117 
i aren't think that
2018-06-13 21:32
#22
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North America squezzi 
He's from the opposite party and is retarded
2018-06-13 21:32
#23
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Greece Phlebas117 
if he blocks it then "north macedonia" aka west bulgaria will be in deep trouble
2018-06-13 21:33
#31
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North America squezzi 
I checked Zoran Zaev's facebook, he keeps talking bullshit.
2018-06-13 21:41
#33
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Greece Phlebas117 
but Zaev is the one who agreed with Tsipras
2018-06-13 21:42
#34
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North America squezzi 
Yes but they keep stealing Bulgarian national heroes
2018-06-13 21:43
#37
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Greece Phlebas117 
they keep stealing everyone's heroes m8, next thing we know they'll claim george washington and winston churchill
2018-06-13 21:52
Da fuq, Mace's don't exist. Even their language is Bulgarian with an accent,not Macedonian
2018-06-13 21:30
#18
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Greece Phlebas117 
i know man, everyone who cares knows it, but they can't admit to it
2018-06-13 21:31
lol macedonia in past history is mostly serbian territory if i remember ok
2018-06-13 21:34
#25
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Greece Phlebas117 
depends on which part of history
2018-06-13 21:35
Macedonia is Macedonia u dumbass cunts, and our president will veto it, damn it u brainwashed dickheads, u dont even know what are u talking. Greek's are scared coz if they accept us as Macedonians we might get what is ours, thats north part of Greece.
2018-06-13 21:57
#41
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North America squezzi 
+1
2018-06-13 22:05
#42
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Greece Phlebas117 
i was trying to be friendly man
2018-06-13 22:06
#44
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Liechtenstein xGinsu 
im sorry about him typical macedonian but he is right tho the president will veto that shitt and he has one more year in office so no way he will sign anything because he already didnt sign on the dual language (there was promise from zaev to albanians that he will make there language as a official as ours) im sure that you and others can wait 1 years you waited so long you can wait one more year.
2018-06-13 22:21
lul
2018-06-14 11:24
The one and only brainwashed here its you my friend. The other part with Macedonia part and lands , its science fiction film
2018-06-13 23:40
#45
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Macedonian President has put veto on this decision. Wtf how can you force someone to change their country name?
2018-06-13 23:04
If one country tommorow, put a name Ukraine , you will have problem or not?
2018-06-13 23:39
#47
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
But how can they put this, there can't be 2 countries with the same name? As far as i know there is only 1 Macedonia.
2018-06-13 23:40
Half Greece , All the north part of Greece have name Macedonia , 1000 years now Before 25-30 years they named their country Macedonia . From then until now we had serious trouble , some countries accept that some not , Ruskys and France was with us.
2018-06-13 23:43
#53
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
i see, but you have to do this via UN, any other way is against international law.
2018-06-13 23:46
Yeah all this discussions are under UN constructions, we just dont accept them to join EU before they change , now they change and we will accept.
2018-06-13 23:56
my eyes hurt when i see your comments
2018-06-14 11:33
#100
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Greece Phlebas117 
+100 im pretty sure he is a retard
2018-06-14 11:33
ye i had some talking with him earlier, he is deffinitely a retard
2018-06-14 11:34
2 full time retards agree each other. That means i am in right path.
2018-06-14 11:36
#107
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Greece Phlebas117 
ok
2018-06-14 11:36
when 2 people say you are retarded, you are definitely retarded remember that
2018-06-14 11:44
Nice logik , you prove my topik with that.
2018-06-14 12:10
nice english, you prove my topic with that
2018-06-14 13:01
#84
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Greece Phlebas117 
1000 years now? fakeflagger? North part of greece is named macedonia since at least 1000 BC (3000 years)
2018-06-14 09:58
They got 1 parth called Macedonia, wich is ours, and if they accept us as Macedonia that place will automaticly be ours, simple as that
2018-06-13 23:44
So the entire North Greece will be yours ... Even like that , you understand that we will extinct you in 1 day , how this scenario is possible?? Turkey claims 1 ISLAND from 1500 islands 100 years now and we dont give , thats why i tell is science fiction film .
2018-06-13 23:58
Ofc it will be ours holy shit, thats the reason u are not accepting us by our name
2018-06-14 01:40
You are brainwashed bro , sorry
2018-06-14 01:44
GAMIAS71: we share same borders , our Macedonia and them , you never know what they wil ask tommorow. Isnt that the reason u brain damaged malaka?
2018-06-14 01:47
I said : that you WILL ASK yoiu said ; that place will automaticly be ours, simple as that there is a diffrence , dont you think??
2018-06-14 09:56
#48
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Netherlands Vladrurik 
Someone explain what this is about pls?
2018-06-13 23:40
#78
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Greece Phlebas117 
There was a part of ancient greece called macedonia, long before the slavs came to the balkans, and a few thousand years later, when yugoslavia was divided, the south part (that was mainly bulgarians) was named macedonia so that bulgaria would not annex them. This whole time the north part of greece was also called Macedonia, where the actual cities where ancient macedonians lived are. Then, to support their name the yugoslavs started saying that they were descendants of alexander the great and ancient macedonians, so of course greece had a problem with that, but the whole world already calls them macedonians and its a bit tricky at the end of the day, as long as they dont try to steal greek history they can call themselves whatever makes them happy
2018-06-14 09:37
#148
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Netherlands Vladrurik 
Okay don't get triggered but IIRC I learned in my Ancient greek classes in the Netherlands that The kingdom of Macedon was often ridiculed by the atheners because they were uneducated and uncultered farmers and stuff and nobody considered them really greek but then they got rich because of a goldmine and conquered the rest of greece and then the greeks tried to pretend as if the macedons were greek all along and told everyone Alexander was greek and noy macedon This could be wrong but that's what I was taught
2018-06-14 17:56
#154
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Greece Phlebas117 
Macedonian greeks, as northerners were a bit more uncultured and rough than your average athenian. And when Philip started conquering city-states to the south, Athenians started getting scared and especially Demosthenes started making hate speeches against Philip (called Philippics). Macedonians though, spoke greek (a doric dialect like the spartans in a way), worshipped the same gods and shared the same common culture with the rest of the greek tribes (Greece of course wasn't a country back then, just a collection of city-states with the greek language, gods, literature and culture as common denominators).
2018-06-14 21:07
#51
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Turkey Purchase 
It is the first time that greeks won something LUL (Of course without fighting)
2018-06-13 23:44
We won Eurovision at 2010 .
2018-06-13 23:59
#69
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Turkey Purchase 
Wow quite impressive :D
2018-06-14 00:06
xD
2018-06-14 00:25
#79
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Greece Phlebas117 
and euro 2004
2018-06-14 09:45
And euro basket 2005
2018-06-14 11:54
2005 bro
2018-06-14 11:53
#122
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Greece Phlebas117 
einai xazos o gamias re aston na leei ta dika tou
2018-06-14 11:53
Skasmos
2018-06-14 12:13
#138
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Greece Phlebas117 
stamata na trollareis re blammene
2018-06-14 12:14
Sta arxidia moy to hltv re trele , mono otan pinw tsigara mpainv mesa gia na gelasw
2018-06-14 12:20
#142
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Greece Phlebas117 
stamata na pineis fou tote re zaki
2018-06-14 12:21
Otan vazeis stin idia protasi ena aplo tsigaro me kapoion pou varaei preza , antilamvanomai to poios einai o malakas stin koyventa.
2018-06-14 12:24
agapao to xorto
2018-06-14 21:02
you are fakeflager for sure, but we love same thing :P
2018-06-14 22:48
As long as both governments go through with there plans it will be great. It's been an issue for far too long and frankly I'm tired of people on both sides giving too many fucks about their past heritage and not realizing they are dooming their future. Our "president" can say whatever the fuck he wants, he has no power anyway.
2018-06-13 23:48
#56
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Netherlands Vladrurik 
What's the plan? Please explain?
2018-06-13 23:49
Basically have one country follow through and another not, whether us or Greece. But it's come this far, I think it might just be done. Oh and fuck all of you nationalist pricks. Get testicular cancer and die.
2018-06-13 23:58
#70
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Netherlands Vladrurik 
I don't understand what this is about at all
2018-06-14 00:25
Half Greece named Macedonia 1000 years now , all the North Greece actually. Before 25-30 years previous government of FYROM named their country Macedonia , started named airports everything Alexander etc etc . Greece didnt accept all this clown fiesta , we understand that at the years of Great Alexander a part of FYROM was in Macedonia , BUT Alexander boned- lived- died here , we have this name from ages , when someone go and put same name , and we share same borders , our Macedonia and them , you never know what they wil ask tommorow. Anyway they want to join EU , we dont accept , now after 30 years they will rename everything and they will join EU . Its a bit more complicated , i tried to tell the basiks.
2018-06-14 00:31
#109
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Greece Phlebas117 
look #78, GAMIAS71 is a retard who doesnt know history, sorry
2018-06-14 11:42
I am 100% with your sceptical , we loose years and years for nothing . Even for me its not big thing, but some people loose their minds with these shits.
2018-06-14 00:00
#55
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Armenia 1915 
Ottoman Empire pretty much ruined everything. I love greeks
2018-06-13 23:48
Thats true , all the whole Balkans lost thousand of years for wars and shit , and lost improvment , Turkey too , without all this shit the things should be better for everyone now.
2018-06-14 00:04
Actually crusaders fucked up
2018-06-14 11:55
#66
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Turkey Styyx 
F.Y.R.O.M. Macedonia LEARN THE DİFFERENCE
2018-06-14 00:00
#80
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Greece Phlebas117 
+1 komsu
2018-06-14 09:45
#147
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Turkey Styyx 
im telling this while my ancestors come from FYROM. Do you think they are mad at me geitonas?
2018-06-14 15:09
#149
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Greece Phlebas117 
no because they know too if they have more than 5 IQ
2018-06-14 20:51
Are there any CS:GO pros from Macedonia? Neno is the only one I can think of. Still 1 more than there are greek players I guess OMEGALUL (tsack doesn't count btw).
2018-06-14 00:26
#73
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Denmark Baitvice 
+1 but still Greece cucked Macedonia. Now it looks like macedonia is a part of Greece LMFAO!
2018-06-14 00:29
#81
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Greece Phlebas117 
:DDDDDD
2018-06-14 09:45
#113
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Turkey devriyeL 
xantares half macedonian
2018-06-14 11:47
#114
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Greece Phlebas117 
i heard he's greek
2018-06-14 11:47
#116
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Turkey devriyeL 
not really. He is Turkish but with some macedoian dna
2018-06-14 11:48
Stavros
2018-06-14 11:56
balkans and south eastern europe is such a shit-show. really needs another war to get all borders neat and tidy again. maybe then it can start developing into a first world region.
2018-06-14 10:03
#86
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North America squezzi 
yes
2018-06-14 10:05
#87
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Greece Phlebas117 
dont get too excited bro, you saw what happened last time
2018-06-14 10:06
#88
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North America squezzi 
i am baiting this guy. he's such a putinophile, he clearly cant see the real truth. Russia is much worse than EU Balkan countries, at least is heading to a much worse situation
2018-06-14 10:13
mylifeelsewhere.com/compare/bulgaria/rus.. ??? you were saying??? idk why Balkans are so proud to be vassals of the EU. So you can come to rich western countries and be cleaners? The Bulgarians here all clean the tube and buses or work as labourers for gangmasters. You see them outside of hardware shops waiting for work. Woop-de-doo! It's so great to be vassals of NATO and EU and be forced to bend over when they tell you to!
2018-06-14 11:12
#90
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North America squezzi 
Better vassals of rich countries than vassals of poor shithole like Russia
2018-06-14 11:12
better to be with people who are alike you than people who aren't imo and people who don't force you to open your borders and make your country a frontier for placing military units and fighting military confrontations far away from the rich core countries.
2018-06-14 11:14
#92
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North America squezzi 
Russia used Balkan and Eastern European countries as its slaves for a while. That's why we are so poor right now. What makes you think you are better is simply because you are Russian.
2018-06-14 11:15
not russian but russia is better than macedonia and bulgaria
2018-06-14 12:12
#137
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Greece Phlebas117 
Macedonia is a greek province, you are probably referring to the Democracy of Northern Macedonia
2018-06-14 12:14
Northern Macedonia*
2018-06-14 12:14
#140
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Greece Phlebas117 
Democracy of*
2018-06-14 12:15
Actually we are 1st world country many many years now , before even EU exist . I dont know whats your point , also our people dont massively immigrate , some of them did it from 2012 to 2017 , but now coming back . If you find Greek cleaners outside of Greece i will pay you 1 month Esea . xD
2018-06-14 11:18
#111
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Greece Phlebas117 
He's not talking about greeks retard. Probably the old stereotype for Romanians, Bulgarians etc.. old eastern block countries
2018-06-14 11:46
# 85 balkans and south eastern europe is such a shit-show. Also dont call me retard , i am not your father .
2018-06-14 12:12
Yes We also need fto form a balkan empire and conquer what every country had in the past
2018-06-14 11:57
#93
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Turkey Rjea 
Idk why they still calling themselves macedonian ?
2018-06-14 11:16
#103
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North America squezzi 
because they are macedonians
2018-06-14 11:35
#106
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Greece Phlebas117 
northern macedonians* according to the geographical location of the ancient greek kingdom of macedonia. Still slavs though, nothing to do with the history
2018-06-14 11:36
#118
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Turkey Rjea 
They are slavs. Macedonians were greek.
2018-06-14 11:50
#119
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Greece Phlebas117 
+1 komsu <3
2018-06-14 11:51
#120
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North America squezzi 
<3
2018-06-14 11:51
hltv rename czechia and north macedonia flag please
2018-06-14 11:18
#112
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Greece Phlebas117 
+1
2018-06-14 11:46
xd
2018-06-14 11:26
The demonum tho
2018-06-14 11:58
#131
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Greece Phlebas117 
As long as they don't try to steal history, they can call themselves spartans and i won't care
2018-06-14 11:59
Tru that is the most important
2018-06-14 12:00
#144
liazz | 
Cyprus Swishh_ 
+1111
2018-06-14 12:25
#145
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France uNLmofo 
can I have one more slice of this cake please?
2018-06-14 12:28
All macedonians seems like bulgarians. They speak also bulgarian language and all of their kings are bulgarian Kings. For example Samuil is a bulgarian king, but they recognize him like a macadonian. THeir history is a joke.
2018-06-14 20:56
#155
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Greece Phlebas117 
well they do have a history, they don't need to steal greek history
2018-06-14 21:08
It's all politics games man don't be fool... As far as i know US has a big military base there so they want them into NATO. Probably some oil?!?! in the area? Next think you know is you get some freedom from the bald eagle.
2018-06-14 23:09
#159
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Greece Phlebas117 
>oil in the area LUL no way
2018-06-15 09:45
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