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why did france surrender to germany?
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Israel MarlonBrando77 
Hello, Im not judging i would just like to know why do you think France surrendered
2018-06-13 23:09
bcs they're lame
2018-06-13 23:11
#2
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Israel MarlonBrando77 
your anwser is lame to be honest.
2018-06-13 23:11
I mean they were even fraternising with the germuns so yeah they're lame
2018-06-13 23:12
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Israel MarlonBrando77 
Okay thanks for making your answer more clear !
2018-06-13 23:13
they were probably scared of getting rekt like in ww1
2018-06-13 23:14
a few years before ww2 Poland discovered that hitler was preparing for something big so they offered france to attack it together but france refused, and when the Poles were in france in 1940 after the polish defeat they weren't authorised to patrol german territory by the french by fear of antagonising the germuns
2018-06-13 23:20
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Germany KadriaN 
Because it was defeated.
2018-06-13 23:12
#5
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Israel MarlonBrando77 
Could you be more specific please
2018-06-13 23:13
they lose
2018-06-13 23:17
#114
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United Kingdom Button 
France was out-powered by better guns/vehicles/manpower. They were also being attacked from multiple areas and being attacked by the biggest army in Europe (Russia maybe had more, cba to look it up)
2018-06-14 00:09
they had most defences at france-german border, but germany just skipped them by walking through belgium
2018-06-14 20:12
#7
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Turkey TheFruit 
Germany rekt them with better aim and better strats and they didn't want to get 16-0 so they surrendered.
2018-06-13 23:13
why did you comment? whats the point man
2018-06-13 23:14
#15
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Turkey TheFruit 
why did you comment? whats the point man
2018-06-13 23:16
"Germany rekt them with better aim and better strats and they didn't want to get 16-0 so they surrendered." Do you think youre funny?
2018-06-13 23:17
nevermind i guess it was my fault posting it on hltv,keep baiting people and feel good with yourself man good luck !
2018-06-13 23:17
#73
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United States LemiTZzZ 
that guy is actually right, they surrendered not to get 16-0'd. They couldn't do shit to the german army and decided to reduce the amount of overall casualties by surrendering.
2018-06-13 23:33
yet lost 600k people
2018-06-13 23:33
#79
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United States LemiTZzZ 
why would they lose more they thought and surrendered, that's kinda logical
2018-06-13 23:34
but they lost even more elo surrendering so I dunno if it was worth it
2018-06-13 23:14
#9
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Spain Lorenzo_Lamas 
If they had not surrendered they would have become slaves of the Nazis
2018-06-13 23:14
i disagree i think that if they wouldn't surrender there would be no ww2 to be honest .
2018-06-13 23:15
#21
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Hungary Rollie 
Do you know that the French army got almost completely encircled?
2018-06-13 23:18
what do you mean by encircled
2018-06-13 23:18
#36
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Spain Lorenzo_Lamas 
surrounded
2018-06-13 23:20
#56
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Hungary Rollie 
A big part of the French/English army was encircled in Dunkirk and a lot of them were getting encircled near the Maginot line so France had to surrender to save a lot of people. Why would you fight a war where you can't win, you're outgunned and outnumbered? Makes no sense to lose more brave man against panzers, only 27k Germans died while more than 300k Frenchies, there were no point to even try and fight them
2018-06-13 23:24
more than 600k french people died bro
2018-06-13 23:24
#61
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Hungary Rollie 
Then why do you even think they stood any chance?
2018-06-13 23:25
i doubt uk wouldnt help bro
2018-06-13 23:26
#67
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Hungary Rollie 
They were occupied by saving their troops from Dunkirk and their Crisis in the Parliament, not to mention that they had a smaller and less equipped army than Germany I think it was the best option for the French even though this became a meme
2018-06-13 23:32
smart guy here, a good and global explanation
2018-06-13 23:56
#30
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Spain Lorenzo_Lamas 
I disagree the biggest reason that many french decided to collaborate with the Nazis was fear of what Germany would otherwise do to occupied France. To be sure, the Germans took great care in 1940 and 1941 to assure the French of their intentions. And the Germans looted what was left of the French military and the French treasury, funding the Nazi war machine as it undertook campaigns against Britain and the USSR.
2018-06-13 23:19
yes just imagine what would be if france would not surrender i really think that ww2 would end in less than 2 years
2018-06-13 23:20
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Spain Lorenzo_Lamas 
Could greatly diminish the duration of the war
2018-06-13 23:22
yes
2018-06-13 23:22
I mean they kind of were, giving up 3/4 of your country like that is awkward
2018-06-13 23:16
yup.
2018-06-13 23:16
#13
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North America PsychoLogical 
Cause nazi germany was too strong for them no?
2018-06-13 23:15
no
2018-06-13 23:16
yes they were
2018-06-13 23:56
flag checks out
2018-06-14 20:04
ahaha
2018-06-14 20:04
cuz Germany was too strong plus they had new strats
2018-06-13 23:18
marlon brando was insane
2018-06-13 23:18
insanely good actor
2018-06-13 23:19
godfather greatest of all time
2018-06-13 23:21
Because they took too much casualities and they weren't well equipped.
2018-06-13 23:18
do you think it was the good choice ?
2018-06-13 23:19
They would get destroyed anyways, so probably yes. They avoided more losses.
2018-06-13 23:21
Cause theyre pussies bro, you ever listened to a frenchie in mm and gone "damn, now thats a manly man"
2018-06-13 23:19
i have much respect for finnish soldiers! even tho my grandad died by finnish soldiers :C very strong people man
2018-06-13 23:20
Did he really :/ that sucks, my grampa got shot twice and still had stuff in his body years after :P
2018-06-13 23:22
will you serve in the Finnish army?
2018-06-13 23:23
I have buddy, one year :P at the time it was not so nice but afterwards i have alot of good memories :p
2018-06-13 23:24
i had many issues with police i really hope ill be able to serve in army if they wont arrest me xd,good luck serving bro
2018-06-13 23:25
Goodluck to you
2018-06-13 23:26
my grandad got killed by vodka drinkers
2018-06-13 23:34
its war my friend :/
2018-06-13 23:34
he died serving his country, in my opinion thats the best death a man can have
2018-06-13 23:35
totally agree with you bro! have you been in army?
2018-06-13 23:41
nah, but i know how to handle guns and shit
2018-06-13 23:44
do you think this knowledge will help you and if so how
2018-06-13 23:49
i dont think so but its always good to know
2018-06-13 23:55
i agree with you man,gn
2018-06-13 23:56
gn man
2018-06-14 00:00
#37
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World zeree 
This. Because of France, millions died for no reason.
2018-06-13 23:20
France was too late in aquiring weapoins during the second world war. When they started mass production germany where already far ahead.
2018-06-13 23:20
#33
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Armenia 1915 
France had little chance to defend. It was pointless to not surrender. Look what happened to Japan when they didn’t surrender
2018-06-13 23:20
#71
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World zeree 
They had plenty of time. They had defence lines (Maginot line and some others). Okay, they were quite useless but still. TBH, I blame France, UK etc. Nobody took actions when Germany started to grow their army from 100k men to let's say 800k at first.
2018-06-13 23:30
#75
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Armenia 1915 
None of them wanted to escalate things. I doubt they knew it would have started WW2
2018-06-13 23:34
#83
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World zeree 
Well, they should have as it was one of the main* things on the peace treaty. No more than 100k soldiers
2018-06-13 23:39
#85
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Armenia 1915 
True, but again nobody wanted to escalate things. They thought of it as Germany gainig the territory back that they lost from WW1 at first but then they started invading others countries and such and makingg allies with hungary etc which really crossed the line
2018-06-13 23:40
#101
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World zeree 
Well, good job for that.. Oh, shit but it escalated A LOT. There were many reasons to put them down before anything happened but France/UK were too pussies to do anything. Those who wanted were pushed away or ignored.. But I can see why you see things like that. EDIT: Soviet Union DId the same to Armenia
2018-06-13 23:52
#103
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Armenia 1915 
Man ofc they should have put them down before that I’m not denying. They just don’t think any of the countries wanted to be part of the mess. But were later forced to take actions. Great Depression and stuff was still lingering at the time.
2018-06-13 23:53
#113
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World zeree 
All I'm saying they started to something when they noticed that they are in danger which was way too late. They didn't listen to others. "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" "Oh, shit I'm dead"
2018-06-14 00:05
#115
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Armenia 1915 
Lol. Im pretty sure Churchill had like some crazy quote that predicted all of it too even tho he didnt even take action early enough
2018-06-14 00:10
#34
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Sweden Revil0csgo 
You can write an exam about this, But to be short you can say that they saved lifes and Their country cause they were defeated and didnt want to Lose even more.
2018-06-13 23:20
yet many french people died anyway
2018-06-13 23:21
600k french people died in ww2 if im correct
2018-06-13 23:21
Simple answer. Germany had much better firepower, better technology, more soldiers. France just didnt have military strong enough to make any resistance.
2018-06-13 23:21
we had all our defence on the German border, but German went through Belgium like dady in momy and got us from behind
2018-06-13 23:21
#48
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United States Scvboy1 
Plus you guys didn't rebuild like Germany did after WW1 so your military was weaker.
2018-06-13 23:22
good point scvboy
2018-06-13 23:22
#77
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Hungary Rollie 
Actually, the French had a lot bigger army but it was technologically inferior and they didn't really think about new kind of warfare, they were prepared for trench warfare
2018-06-13 23:34
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France FireMM 
Another military reason is that France did not add a sufficient counter attack force, something we call a "force de réserve" in case of a massive German breakthrough. Obviously, that breakthrough happened in Belgium and some panzers / motorized divisions were able to flank the French army. -with no "pure Armor" divisions, the French force was unable to oppose the Germans a strong defense, in spite of some minor successes. -without any counter-attack force, the French army was unable to attack the German exposed flanks, to their big surprise as well, which allow the Germans to reinforce their breach for days before any reactions (which was too late) and trap the French army between them and the sea The French army was basically egal to the German one : same amount of armoured vehicles and airplanes, but their philosophies of war were really different : blitzkrieg on one side, with large groups of armoured and aircraft used as a primary attack force, and defense on the other side with armoured and aircraft used as a defense to artillery and infantry Those two tactics were partially influenced by the countries histories, demographies and abilities : France knew that she could use her colonial empire to sustain a long war and could afford to be passive. Germans knew the first blow needed to be the good one, and gambled everything on their speed and firepower Overall, France surrendered for too many reasons to expose but some of them are : -a trapped army, or what remains of it with a broken chain of command and structure -the loss of any line of defense and the inability to create a new one in time : every "line" created after the invasion was reached by the panzer before the construction even began -millions of people on the roads, with spreading rumours : did the USA entered into war ? Did Russia invaded them ? Did Hitler suicides himself ? Are the Germans slaughtering every soul on the exile road ? Those rumors are forgotten but we're like a poison on the road, and the French people lost his soul heading south -people thoughts that Petain was just the shield, and accepting the defeat would allow France to continue the fight with its empire -just imagine : your country has been military speaking outmatched like never before. In 3 weeks, 8 millions of people are on the road, the government is in exile, nobody wants to really fight after a long year waiting for the German attack, an old marechal, the hero of Verdun, offers to sacrifice himself and to sign an armistice What would you do ?
2018-06-14 00:58
Authentic France died at the french revolution
2018-06-13 23:22
lol wtf,best comment so far
2018-06-13 23:22
#51
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Italy Yungxsteffe 
Google.com
2018-06-13 23:23
im aware of google.com
2018-06-13 23:23
#54
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United States Drag0nfart 
Because they hated jews too
2018-06-13 23:23
feelsbadman
2018-06-13 23:25
#63
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United States Drag0nfart 
feelsgoodman
2018-06-13 23:25
you dont like jews? if so why
2018-06-13 23:30
he is a trumpster, ofc he doesn't like jews
2018-06-14 00:03
#55
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Indonesia nangidyr 
why do you ask in hltv when there is google
2018-06-13 23:24
i wanted to know what hltv people think man
2018-06-13 23:25
#66
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Brazil nato8797 
Because they didn't want to fight. The french were caught by surprise by the germans, in the operation that led to Dunkirk evasion. They were just smashed, the french were just defenseless. I don't know why they are considered winners, they didn't nothing. Eua, Russia and England did all the work.
2018-06-13 23:27
#68
Brazil AN89 
Blitzkrieg Germany took France with her pants down.
2018-06-13 23:28
do you think it was good choice?
2018-06-13 23:30
#72
Brazil AN89 
Whatever.
2018-06-13 23:32
JA DAS BLITZKRIEGEN
2018-06-14 00:04
#81
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Poland subZero_ps 
French people are very calm, they didn't wanted to fight cuz there was no point for'em
2018-06-13 23:35
what about polish people,respect for many polish people who saved jews (my grandad was saved by polish family)
2018-06-13 23:40
#88
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Poland subZero_ps 
We've basically got nothing, like no riffle, utility anything, we've got shitty generals and also we've been betrayed
2018-06-13 23:41
by who? russia?
2018-06-13 23:42
#90
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Poland subZero_ps 
that's one of them. Russia (Soviet Union) promised us to help also like France and UK but no one came and help us
2018-06-13 23:42
how is your army nowdays?
2018-06-13 23:43
#92
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Poland subZero_ps 
Way better and stronger, we are number #17 in the World Armies Ranking, ready for everything
2018-06-13 23:44
thats good man!
2018-06-13 23:44
#95
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Poland subZero_ps 
thank you, have a nice evening :)
2018-06-13 23:45
you too bro
2018-06-13 23:48
Dont forget that France and UK declared war when you got attacked. They just couldnt help you more.
2018-06-13 23:48
#98
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Poland subZero_ps 
True that but still
2018-06-13 23:48
#82
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Norway Hyggeligulv 
The first defeat the Germans suffered in WWII happened in Narvik, north of Norway. When French, British and Norwegian forces collaborated to push them back. That's when Germany hit France with full force. Churchill went to France at this point to learn how to stop Germany, but France just went - Stop? Stop who? Churchill, You don't understand, you don't stop them. You simply don't. The armies of Germany and France were about equal in size, but the Germans were madly equipped and not least prepared for war.
2018-06-13 23:36
#84
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Because France ain't stupid. They saw Britain chilling out on their island thereby going 1v1 against Germany was a suicide mission. Not to speak of France was the only superpower to battle Germany on the land borders at the moment plus alliance of Germany with Soviet Union made it worse. So the (expected) logic was pretty clear: Option to go all in, lose hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians, chuck away your manufactures and infrastructure for nothing, which basically means moral annihilation of the French nation and demolishing foundations of the state. That option means that US&British liberation of France would still happen but on what conditions? France would have to accept anything because there wouldn't be an economy, army and the greatest hunger and massive migration are most likely the outcomes in this situation; country would have probably been divided into 2 states or get some kind of puppet foreign govt. Needless to say, it'd finish off one of the oldest European empires, both the history and future of the entire nation were at stake.
2018-06-13 23:39
Germans used hacks and valve didnt implement VAC yet.
2018-06-13 23:49
#102
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France StickyRice 
Our FAMASes needed buff :(
2018-06-13 23:52
That's the thing they do best. Look at their military history, full of surrenders and defeats. OMEGALUL
2018-06-13 23:58
Probably because they put all their troops on the Maginot line and idiotically thought that the Germans HAD to go to France via Belgium.
2018-06-13 23:59
yeah Belgium was a big factor
2018-06-14 20:03
Last time we rekt them so hard + france never surrender
2018-06-14 23:59
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