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Who will be top 20
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
Who do you think will make top 20 out of these players nahtE XANTARES coldzera gla1ve BnTeT woxic fer TwistZz autimatic tarik EliGE
2018-06-13 23:50
#1
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Netherlands Vladrurik 
Gla1ve easily
2018-06-13 23:51
#28
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
maybe O.O
2018-06-14 00:01
tarik 100% cuz major mvp cold too maybe
2018-06-13 23:51
#16
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
turokGOD
2018-06-13 23:57
bntet , xantares , woxic , nahte , are you kidding ? xDDD
2018-06-13 23:51
#12
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
All past 3 months: 1.23;1.27;1.24;1.25 not kidding.
2018-06-13 23:55
and what? top20 is considered not only past 3 months but all the time during this year , moreover they didn't achieve anything wtf are you talking xD
2018-06-13 23:58
Didn’t dont mean won’t xd If they win something during the rest of the year, then they’ll be there.
2018-06-14 00:07
lets see , but u must know the thing they should win tier1-2 tournament to be placed in top20, and that seems impossible considering there are much better teams than hr tyloo ss and nahte's team
2018-06-14 00:09
SS can do it, not so sure about others xd
2018-06-14 00:11
maybe
2018-06-14 00:12
#70
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Denmark ghostan11 
Not delusional at all with that flag. Ss wont win any decent tournament
2018-06-14 05:41
just look at Niko in 2k16 he didnt achive anything, but still was top11 lol, if u are good player, u can easly get to top20 so
2018-06-14 00:12
even without trophies
2018-06-14 00:12
do not put niko with woxic nahte bntet or xantares , thats a stupid decision
2018-06-14 00:13
he was growing talent, same as them, maybe some day they will get that kind of level as niko
2018-06-14 18:24
He was exceptional talent. Those mentioned above are just the average playmakers/starplayers of their shit tear teams.
2018-06-14 18:40
lol woxic and xantatares are exactly like him
2018-06-14 21:07
#67
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Australia MattJKS 
No I agree with this thread, they're playing so well this year and I'd back them to make top 20 no matter if they've won any silverware or not.
2018-06-14 04:37
#4
smooya | 
United Kingdom Jim3110 
me
2018-06-13 23:51
#18
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
no... smoogod.
2018-06-13 23:57
#5
oskar | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
suNny 100% from this list xantares cold gla1ve autimatic or elige
2018-06-13 23:52
#6
Twistzz | 
Canada KrabbyS 
Why you spell twistzz like that
2018-06-13 23:52
#10
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Indonesia RIZBEAST 
cause it cooler
2018-06-13 23:54
#14
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
+1
2018-06-13 23:56
Elige Tarik Autimatic coldzera glaive
2018-06-13 23:52
#19
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Greece goodwitch 
no
2018-06-13 23:58
autimatic He is easily top3 in NA
2018-06-13 23:53
#21
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
hmm debatable... there's tarik, NAF, EliGE, TwistZz, nahtE I could see arguments that they're more impactful than auti
2018-06-13 23:59
Without a doubt Autimatic is the best player in C9 ever since he joined the team. How he compares to NAF, Elige, TwistZz and nahtE is hard to say because they're all on the same team and they all perform really well together and put down really concistent results individually. But if i had to pick one TwistZz has the best Ratings in the past couple of months (mostly looking at K/d difference)
2018-06-14 04:05
Tbh though I’d say it’s either Tim or naf as top 1 na hey should be top 20 this year though
2018-06-14 04:33
#9
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Indonesia RIZBEAST 
gla1ve and autimatic would make it , not sure about the rest
2018-06-13 23:53
#11
CeRq | 
Bulgaria mitichow 
cerq
2018-06-13 23:54
#15
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
I think CeRq is good but imo nahte is way more impactful
2018-06-13 23:56
#58
CeRq | 
Bulgaria mitichow 
cerq best awper in the na <3
2018-06-14 00:27
#13
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
nahtE - nos XANTARES - nos coldzera - yes gla1ve - yes BnTeT - nos woxic - nos fer - nos TwistZz - yes autimatic - yes tarik - yes EliGE - yes
2018-06-13 23:59
#24
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Europe RBN_FRT 
"gla1ve - nos" are u drunk my friend?
2018-06-14 00:00
#35
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Macedonia AYEYAH 
I edited it already before u replied
2018-06-14 00:05
1. s1mple 2. KRIMZ 3. NiKo 4. Guardian 5. Tarik 6. autimatic 7. Elige 8. Coldzera 9. Twistzz 10. Device 11. Xyp9x 12. Magisk 13. gla1ve 14. electronic 15. Rain 16. Oskar 17. sunny These players will be in top20 4sure
2018-06-14 00:02
#23
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
Agreed that those players will make it but most of your rankings are out of wack.
2018-06-14 00:00
Its not in right order my friend. Im not that dumb to rank cold over device this year
2018-06-14 00:01
#93
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United States burzeus 
+1 good read
2018-06-14 21:13
#29
kebab | 
Canada sukuful 
everything looks good but rain? I dont think rain will be in top20 this year sorry but thats the truth :/
2018-06-14 00:02
He has decent numbers and Faze is always in top4. Its enough to rank him in top20
2018-06-14 00:03
#33
kebab | 
Canada sukuful 
he was beast but now he sucks even cromen looks better than him (theres no problem with rain I like him)
2018-06-14 00:05
He still has rating around 1.15 which is considered as rly high. Also i think that Faze will be playing better next few months which will help him to get to top20
2018-06-14 00:08
3 last players in my top20 could be dupreeh, KennyS and maybe NAF
2018-06-14 00:06
Guardian no2. cuz 4 some reasons, best awper is always on 2nd plc., unless simple no1, simple no2, Niko no3
2018-06-14 03:27
naf aswell
2018-06-14 12:55
Ethan - Next year Xantares - Next year. Maybe Coldzera - Absolutely Glaive - Probably Bntet - No Woxic - Fuck no Fer - It wouldn't shock me but he doesn't deserve it based on the year so far. Twistzz - Good chance Autimatic - Absolutely Tarik - Good chance Elige - Yes
2018-06-13 23:59
#26
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
2018-06-14 00:01
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. More important list. Also shows why people that think Cold won't be top 20 this year are delusional. Also I should change my Glaive pick to 100%. Dudes rocking a 1.15 rating in big events as an IGL. Unreal how good Astralis is all around right now.
2018-06-14 00:03
#34
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
Weird to see negative kd's get positive ratings even if they are not impactful players... rating2.0...
2018-06-14 00:05
Because you can go 20-22 with a 95 ADR and have a great game. I hope my guy Tarik can lift his game up a little bit and slip in the big event top 20. He's super close. Would be great to have three Liquid guys and two C9 guys on the list.
2018-06-14 00:07
#45
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
Turok will make top 20 because of major MVP imo... but JW through chrisJ have average or above average ratings while ALL having negative KD's... also doesnt rating 2.0 have an average rating of 1.06 or 1.08 or something
2018-06-14 00:09
#38
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
flamie O.O
2018-06-14 00:06
#25
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
oof
2018-06-14 00:01
#30
NiKo | 
Romania ZEPHiC 
One of those players will be 100% in top 20: NiKo TaRiK BnTeT Gla1ve Dev1ce Xyp9x Dupreeh Magisk Twistzz S1mple Guardian Rain Xantares Cold
2018-06-14 00:02
#48
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
oof
2018-06-14 00:10
#51
NiKo | 
Romania ZEPHiC 
I forgot about NAF and Electronic.
2018-06-14 00:11
#37
rain | 
France HYPNO5 
glaive twistzz tarik
2018-06-14 00:06
#47
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
only?
2018-06-14 00:10
#39
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Brazil Dedstars 
S1imple Coldzera Niko Device Dupreeh Guardian Magisk Glavie Eliege Fallen Twistzz Fer Rain Flusha
2018-06-14 00:06
#50
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
electronic?
2018-06-14 00:10
fallen?
2018-06-14 21:13
There's a pretty good chance every player on Astralis is going to be on the list. lol
2018-06-14 00:08
#44
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Denmark raaVz 
Cold Krimz NiKo GuardiaN s1MPLE Electronic DEVICE Dupreeh xyp9x gla1ve Magisk NAF EliGe Flusha Tarik Oskar Ropz Sunny Valde Woxic
2018-06-14 00:09
Where's Autimatic? He's better then pretty much Flusha and above this year on your list. By a good margin. Also S1imple is going to be numba wan.
2018-06-14 00:12
#57
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Denmark raaVz 
thats not in the right order.. ofc s1mple is the best
2018-06-14 00:16
I dont agree at all, alone that double Ace game on train vs faze in the last map of the bo5 from flusha was better than what autimatic did this whole year
2018-06-14 00:31
Are you kidding me? He's got a way higher impact rating/k/d/whatever. No contest.
2018-06-14 03:19
'fan of autimatic'
2018-06-14 12:05
Numbers don't lie brother. Doesn't matter who I like or don't like.
2018-06-14 17:44
well, but since we all know: HLTV also cares about achievements and since fnatic won 2 tournaments already where flusha has been MVP at Katowice. We all know who will have the better spot, right?
2018-06-14 18:26
C9 won a major in 2018. I admit it feels like 2017 but it was January. Autimatic at this point statistically is a top ten player. I don't really care where he is in relation to flusha if I'm being honest. He's just definitely on the list. As are NAF and Elige. Which for NA is a huge improvement over any other year especially considering Tarik and Twistzz are knocking on the door.
2018-06-14 18:29
Well, only reason Kjaerbye was in Top 20 2017 is, because of was MVP. This major Tarik has been MVP, other than that, C9 actually did nothing this year besides being in the final of cs_summit where they lost even though they had 1 map advantage due to coming from upper bracket. Thats not enough imo
2018-06-14 18:35
Perhaps your right. But if you leave off the player with the 7th highest big event rating in the world then the list probably sucks. He's higher then players like Dupreeh, Guardian, Coldzera, Oskar etc etc Besides C9 is retooling. We have half a year left. Who knows might happen in the future. They've made the playoffs with the worst player on a Tier 1 team in the world. They've got two good fraggers. Add a third and they might get a top 4 or two. Maybe make another playoff run in the major. All we really know in CS right now is Astralis is way better then everyone else. I feel like the rest is up for grabs. I think the orgs feel the same way to. That's why your seeing so many roster swaps and changes as of late. But that's a different topic.
2018-06-14 18:43
#62
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United States trump2020 
elige twistzz auto cold gay1ve
2018-06-14 03:33
#84
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
NAF? :(
2018-06-14 21:08
#63
apEX | 
Europe Dax1e 
kennys apex nbk shox coldzera s1mple device xyp9x naf rain fallen flusha xantares guardian sunny tarik twistzz kjearbye dennis oskar this is players that will be in top 20 not sorted
2018-06-14 03:55
#85
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
flusha? kjaerbye? dennis? nbk? shox? :thinking:
2018-06-14 21:09
SEEMPEL
2018-06-14 04:14
#86
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
XD
2018-06-14 21:09
#68
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United States Venom_ 
Auti glave twistzz elige naf cold sunny guardian Oskar xyp9x s1mple dev1ce
2018-06-14 04:37
#69
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Brazil MarieLaMary 
s1mple cold niko device magisk rest doesn't matter
2018-06-14 04:45
#87
NAF | 
United States Inagural_ 
lul
2018-06-14 21:10
cold gla1ve auti fer elige tarik (only cus major) but theres a lot more obvious ones than just these ppl you listed like everyone on Astralis s1mple krimz Niko etc
2018-06-14 05:44
Elige 100%
2018-06-14 17:46
#82
Indonesia Elce 
Bntet on skill But fer on paper
2018-06-14 18:48
#88
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Turkey Sekolelele 
1.CALYX
2018-06-14 21:11
#89
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Norway Easy_for_FaZe 
coldzera gla1ve Twistzz/EliGe BnTeT
2018-06-14 21:11
f0rest s1mple electronic device dupreh glaive magisk niko guardian elige krimz tarik ropz
2018-06-14 21:11
#91
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Russia Slava64 
Niko S1mple Krimz NAF Guardian Twistzz Elige Tarik Autimatic Gla1ve Device Dupreeh Magisk Xyp9x Electronic Coldzera Flusha Sunny Oskar Rain
2018-06-14 21:12
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