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GOLDEN SCREWED OVER
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France happy_2_major_niko_0_major 
hello lady and gentlemen of HLTV.org today I tell you why Maikil “Golden” Selim has been screwed again, i called this a few weeks ago in a thread that got deleted (surprise surprise). i knew that this whole Swedish shuffle incident would lose Golden his spot on fnatic, very sad Respect Golden all, he is dead now :( -happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-06-16 16:45
#1
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Denmark FujiLeBandido 
when he got dropped as IGL everyone knew he was gonna get replaced.
2018-06-16 16:47
sad :(
2018-06-16 23:22
why sad? he's trash
2018-06-17 14:01
cause fnatic were shit for almost 2 years, when he arrived fnatic went back to winning some shit
2018-06-17 17:24
Trash
2018-06-17 17:30
He's indeed a bad fragger but he made that team alive again, you can't deny that
2018-06-17 17:31
his deagle is exotic but his rifling is revolting
2018-06-17 17:35
#86
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Italy Div-\ 
Yeah it was just a matter of time... At least he won 2 big lans with Fnatic. I think he's gonna end up in a good team since the IGL players are pretty rare these days.
2018-06-17 13:31
#111
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
singularity?
2018-06-17 17:11
#112
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Italy Div-\ 
Errrrr that's not a good team isn't it? xD Probably Red Reserve if they are up to a change in IGL? Or even some international team, who knows, everything can happen these days.
2018-06-17 17:13
#113
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
yes but its a growing team not decreasing
2018-06-17 17:13
-happy_2_majors >>>>>_Niko + Xantares + Oscar + Guardian+ Simple = 0 Major
2018-06-16 16:48
Devilwalk 1 major > turkey 0 major
2018-06-16 17:01
tarik 1 major ?
2018-06-16 22:01
hes american izi
2018-06-16 23:44
#83
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Russia deadforest 
he's Turkish
2018-06-17 13:26
america 0 major asia 1 major
2018-06-17 13:30
#123
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Poland Lepand 
clown nein
2018-06-17 19:13
Yes because Hedo Turkoglu and Preldzic and Turkcan and Osman Cedi and Semih Erden are all Bosniaks. nt turkish basketball for example
2018-06-17 00:46
fnatic is really smart they won katowice and WESG for 800k dollars and lost one tournament and decided they had to change the entire structure of the team, really smart
2018-06-16 16:49
#13
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Montenegro G1EX 
+1 smartest team ever
2018-06-16 20:16
they have lost a lot more tournaments than one
2018-06-16 22:02
#44
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
like almost every team ever you mean? They will never be at Astralis levels of success, the best they can hope for is winning 2-3 events per year
2018-06-17 00:05
They should have lost Katowice but flusha had 2 insane aces They should have lost WESG but won with a really good comeback at like 14-7 something because SS chocked Then they have played really bad only reason they have done somewhat decent at like DH was because of KRIMZ only him hltv.org/stats/players/events/11110/Gold..
2018-06-17 02:47
#68
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that after golden joins the team steadily improves, yes they got along through some good individual plays from other teams, but even if they had kept making finals and semis it would still be an upgrade
2018-06-17 12:22
Hmmmm or maybe that KRIMZ did go from 1 rating to 1.27 rating
2018-06-17 16:28
#108
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
I credit that to Golden’s leadership and positioning of players. Krimz aim has always been very good, but with golden the team was more built around players like him and flusha
2018-06-17 17:04
#108
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
I credit that to Golden’s leadership and positioning of players. Krimz aim has always been very good, but with golden the team was more built around players like him and flusha
2018-06-17 17:04
They only got that far in the first place because Golden joined and whipped them into shape enough to consistently get out of groups.
2018-06-18 00:27
Yes have nothing to do with KRIMZ starting to put in hours into the game and carry the noobs
2018-06-18 01:59
Do you think this just miraculously happened? It wasn't easier for him to play at his best because the team finally had some decent fundamentals to fall back on? They had Dennis and Olofmeister on the same team and did fuck all for months. Just because they had a superstar on their team doesn't mean that's enough to win rounds.
2018-06-18 04:12
Which is already 2-3 more than G2
2018-06-17 08:57
#66
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Honestly mate, I’d be very impressed if a roster who have only played in one event have won 3
2018-06-17 12:21
0/8 you clearly understood what I meant there and my phrasing made sense considering your sentence, stop bitching
2018-06-17 12:22
#70
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
How did your phrasing make sense. I’m not criticising Fnatic, I really like them, but like almost every team ever, they won’t dominate the scene, making consistant semis and finals is a good thing for them, I don’t see the need for a change. Why does the team I support matter in this context? I think the same of G2, they won’t ever be at the point where they win every event, but they could be top 5
2018-06-17 12:24
Well if you want to talk about this FNATIC lineup and say they havent what it takes to be a consistent top team why wouldnt you talk about G2 then? As expected from a fan you're delusional, This G2 lineup wont ever be top5 and if a lineup like that new fnatic lineup could never win more than 2 event a year then you shouldnt expect that g2 lineup to even win one, at least as long as they keep that smithzz boddy ex6tenz trio there is now way theyll ever be a top 5 team and the fact that you think so about them and then tell us that FNATIC team couldnt even think of winning 4 events a year just show how biased you are and makes your opinion way less relevant
2018-06-17 12:36
#79
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
How am I biased? I think that the skill ceilings of both teams are pretty equal, I never said that this lineup couldn’t win any more than 3 events, I said that they shouldn’t expect to. Personally I think that although Fnatic have better players than G2, the structure of G2 will be better as I don’t think Xizt is a particularly good IGL. Why wouldn’t this G2 roster be top 5? Ex6tenz played very well at ECS and Smithzz didn’t do too bad seeing as it was his first event after a year and a half off
2018-06-17 12:42
"I think that the skill ceilings of both teams are pretty equal" Ok I will stop it now, have a good day
2018-06-17 12:43
#82
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
don't be so toxic bro, calm down a bit. It's only a game and we won't know who's right until both teams demonstrate their form with their new rosters
2018-06-17 13:24
How am I Toxic there? Just because I'm telling you facts you cant accept mean I'm toxic? Expected no less from a delusional fan thats a classic comment, well as I said, It's totally useless to argue with you more with what I've seen earlier, stop answering there
2018-06-17 13:29
#92
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
It’s not facts it’s speculation. Neither of us know how either team will do, so you don’t need to be so elitist about it. Just accept that you don’t know better than everyone else
2018-06-17 15:07
All I know is that the only tier 1 players in this team are shox and kennys and theyre both in a slump, dont need more to tell you that they wont be top5, especially since the last three are really bad, you cant expect to win shit when you have smithzz in your team + add with that how overrated Ex6tenz is as an igl and boddy inconsistency, It's pretty fucking funny to see someone being so delusional that he actually try to convince himself of such things , and the "I think that the skill ceilings of both teams are pretty equal" was just the nail in the coffin, BYE now
2018-06-17 15:11
#110
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
This is your opinion, like I’ve said. We have seen one event with the G2 team and none with the Fnatic lineup. Note I haven’t criticised Fnatic because I haven’t seen what they can do yet, I’m just slightly sceptical of the changes. Try voicing your criticism with some logic rather than blind insults
2018-06-17 17:10
bump
2018-06-17 15:16
#4
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Poland kvvach 
-GTR +Golden after NIP major fall you hear it first here
2018-06-16 16:50
GTR said several times he wants to retire in NIP, so that would be a surprise.
2018-06-16 21:59
#22
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Poland kvvach 
so he will retire what your point
2018-06-16 22:03
lol, read it wrong, my bad. In that case, probably. NiP is already looking to be a GODSENT 2.0 anyways as soon as f0rest hangs it up.
2018-06-16 22:04
Why should f0rest stop playing? He is still a solid top15 player, if he really wanted he could be top5 player, easy
2018-06-16 22:09
As soon as he hangs it up. Meaning the moment he does, NIP will basically be another Swedish developmental team like GODSENT
2018-06-16 22:10
Ouh, misunderstood you, yeah then they will be. Kinda sad, they started to kick people, but had to be done
2018-06-16 22:11
f0rest can't even bother to shave his own beard why even bother play cs
2018-06-17 00:42
I don't know why Fnatic valued Xizt so much to give him the IGL role over Golden who has brought the team out of their slump some would say... Threat was what was really keeping NiP together while Xizt was leading there, Overrated and Golden will be missed, rip. Although tbh, they probably didn't remove him from the IGL role and kick him soon because of performance, they were going to kick him after WESG due to internal conflicts but that decision was only delayed because they started winning.
2018-06-16 16:55
biggest +1111111 I read all year Mr WolfofSelite
2018-06-16 19:55
#14
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Montenegro G1EX 
+1
2018-06-16 20:16
#20
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Sweden Faix 
+1
2018-06-16 22:01
dude its me sadoracist, they banned me for that thread where i said they were lazy.... Once again the admins prove their ignorance and just full on corruption... Oh and yeah but lekro and draken are the one sgetting screwed. Fnatic just had to kick golden. Lekro is now on a dead roster and draken is gonna be stuck fighting JW for the awp. Neither are GOOD riflers so wtf are both teams thinking???
2018-06-16 19:57
#9
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Sweden Ninjas@Pyjamas 
You should be permanently banned because you're ignorant as fuck.
2018-06-16 19:58
IM ignorant because the mods cant even abide by their own rules? they leave threads up demanding +1s in support of japanese genocide, pedophilia, calling germans subhumans and pieces of shit, but when i call them out for removing our threads with theories of shuffles, and other regular talking points they get pissy and ban us? yeah ok
2018-06-16 20:09
loooooooooooooooooooool rip you died for our sins
2018-06-16 19:59
they even already deleted the thread i made where i explained everything and called them out. Honestly its so annoying
2018-06-16 20:09
+111111 you died a martyr :(
2018-06-16 21:24
Na brain cells jw said he doesn’t want to Main awp and wants to be hybrid and second awp , draken comes in and becomes primary awper jw gets it when he feels like it . Jw is really good at rifeling and was loosing touch with the awp soon after the nerf in 2014 or 2015 don’t remember . Learn the scene mister na education cough no education
2018-06-17 00:15
if JW is playing well then everyone else isnt facts
2018-06-17 02:42
bullshit, jw was still amazing with the awp during the fnatic-dennis era end of 2015 beginning of 2016, long after the awp nerf. it's just that his loose playstyle didn't work anymore when olof has his wrist injury and had to take a break. that's when jw dropped off. without olof creating space and getting kills elsewhere on the map, jw got cought out of position more often. and sorry, but no proplayer or analyst has ever praised jw for his rifling skills. please stop trying to lecture ppl about 'the scene' when you know just as little, or do you think the fact that you read an interview the other guy didn't somehow makes you the smarter person? you could have gone with: "perhaps you didn't hear, but..."
2018-06-17 23:29
golden is the better igl, but i guess fnatic wanted to go back to playing loose again although i don't know why they didn't try to keep lekro
2018-06-16 21:27
+1111 Golden > Xizt
2018-06-16 21:57
#104
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Lithuania arres 
Maybe they had some inside information that draken is going to get kicked or maybe they even agreed to trade these players. I think that fnatic does not have dedicated awper was seen as a problem and it was decided that xizt + draken is better then lekro + golden. It will be interesting to see how draken adapts there. I sometimes see him as a hotheaded and not always rationally thinking dude who wants to prove he is a badass. He's not so he fails on that miserably. He was also previously criticized due to some of his in game decisions so it will be interesting to see how they play together with flusha, JW and krimz who probably are not very keen on dealing with such things.
2018-06-17 15:51
so how did he get screwed over
2018-06-16 22:03
it was very clear from the start what was gonna happen, and the muslim knew about this. and he was fine with it.
2018-06-16 22:04
sad tosee Mr Aliziemdr
2018-06-17 11:26
#28
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Germany zeolikk 
Golden was a good boi in fnatic. Hopefully Xizt will do good in his place.
2018-06-16 22:10
+1 GOD Golden
2018-06-16 22:11
nice ignoring #23 faggot
2018-06-16 23:23
my man... literally read the thread and you will know
2018-06-16 23:40
i dont know
2018-06-16 23:47
ok i tell you, maj3r said taht the crowd assaulted him while they were leaving arena, pushed him, hurled abuse and spat at him
2018-06-16 23:55
what this has to do with golden getting screwed over
2018-06-17 00:42
#97
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
hello lady and gentlemen of HLTV.org today I tell you why Maikil “Golden” Selim has been screwed again, i called this a few weeks ago in a thread that got deleted (surprise surprise). i knew that this whole Swedish shuffle incident would lose Golden his spot on fnatic, very sad Respect Golden all, he is dead now :( -happy_2_major_niko_0_major where did u say why golden was screwed??
2018-06-17 15:22
he is dead now :(
2018-06-17 15:28
#101
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
hhahahah yeah its official now xD
2018-06-17 15:32
told you all :(
2018-06-17 15:35
#103
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
what? everybody knew that was happening lul. the news already came yesterday lmao u said u would give the reason why he was getting kicked , i was expecting a conspiracy theory of some sort
2018-06-17 15:37
fkn dwarf get rekt
2018-06-16 22:13
wtf
2018-06-17 14:56
i hate him
2018-06-17 15:03
Golden must be a decent IGL, but he doesn't deserve any hype, his big event was won by a cheater-like performance by flusha and by KRiMZ playing like ScreaM in 2016, before it fnatic failed an event and they wanted to kick Golden, but that fluke made them keep him a bit longer. They want to play with xizt? No problem, it's their choice, they clearly don't want to play with Golden as the IGL, it's not necessarily his fault, it just happens, shit happens.
2018-06-16 22:13
fair enough Mr Never get tired,thank for stopping now by
2018-06-18 16:34
#37
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South Africa BrucieBoi 
stop looking for pitty special snowflake
2018-06-16 23:45
sorry Mr BrucieBoi i bet your hard af arent u
2018-06-16 23:58
#105
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South Africa BrucieBoi 
harder than you first worlder :>
2018-06-17 16:20
most likely as i dont step out my front door and get robbed
2018-06-17 16:34
#39
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Belarus diehartz 
he should join Japaleno instead of djL
2018-06-16 23:49
This! Would be great.
2018-06-17 00:10
Golden is one of the friendliest guy in the Swedish scene and probably the best Swedish IGL. Rip Golden
2018-06-17 00:02
+111
2018-06-17 11:13
#43
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Russia @Slava 
xizt is fucking cunt, golden is the best swedish IGL. so sadly..
2018-06-17 00:03
+1 Mr Slava64
2018-06-17 08:41
tbh he is too short to be fucked over, so he is fucked under
2018-06-17 00:18
Lmaooooo +11111 Mr Burgerologist
2018-06-17 08:07
Too short to lead, Goldon entry fragger biggest lul of the year.
2018-06-17 00:20
oof Mr Bradsha
2018-06-17 10:50
#49
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United States TLO 
It's not sad at all. Golden had his chance and he fucking blew it. Golden fucking SUCKS. He was consistently the bottom frag and his IGL skills brought fnatic NOTHING as they had to carry him so hard they might as well been playing with 4 ppl this whole time. Golden was not "screwed over" He screwed himself AND he screwed fnatic over by playing like a hot sack of shit. HE FUCKIN SUCKS SHOULD'VE BEEN KICKED LONG TIME AGO
2018-06-17 00:21
calm down Mr TLO, he is GOD
2018-06-17 08:53
-GTR +Golden
2018-06-17 08:59
+1 Mr Jinxxcs
2018-06-17 09:47
Goodjob Sweedistan, Golden wasn't a skilled player for top csgo or a great caller necessarily,just an average strat caller based on his ACADEMY team experience
2018-06-17 09:07
he was good Mr DropTheBomb
2018-06-17 12:01
#69
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Ethiopia Venom_ 
Golden poop igl only won one real tournament and it was because flusha showed up nothing to do with golden
2018-06-17 12:24
Mr Venom_ no matter how good flusha is you need an IGL to give calls still, you cant pug it out
2018-06-17 12:36
#75
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Ethiopia Venom_ 
Golden is a poop igl some times poop igl's win tournaments by luck like C9 in the major
2018-06-17 12:37
No one said c9 won by their “insane” tactics they just won their duels and crowd helped a little bit other wise they wouldn’t have won. Fanatic had a real strats tho but they thought xizt was an upgrade and the truth will crush them real soon
2018-06-17 12:40
#78
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Ethiopia Venom_ 
xizt is an upgrade trust me
2018-06-17 12:41
Only time will tell habibi
2018-06-17 12:43
#71
Japan rdmn 
- CHETI + golden
2018-06-17 12:29
he need better team Mr rdmn
2018-06-19 11:35
who cares
2018-06-17 12:36
literally anyone interested in professional cs Mr carvin I think you may be on the wrong site
2018-06-18 10:25
golden is not a part of professional cs anymore doe
2018-06-18 20:56
Nip really needs an igl rn so gtr we’ll be dropped in a tournament or two so they should pick him or hamood up. Really sad to see what happened to him. P.s:mouz won somehow lmao
2018-06-17 12:39
+1 Mr AbdullTheBombMaster, thank for stopping by pray for ropz :(
2018-06-17 13:48
hampus*
2018-06-17 14:00
-gtr +golden=
2018-06-17 15:08
+1 Mr HooDie$
2018-06-17 15:18
why does everyone say its an i its a L even in game people write or say hoodies just imagine like noodles but a h edit: and that dollar is to make it edgy
2018-06-17 15:26
#100
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
golden was good for the first few months , his igl was at peak at the ajor and katowice where fnatic was really playing a tactical style and u could see the amazing t sides that golden had brought to the team. people say that fnatic won katowice because of flusha but they dont realize how much golden contributed, flusha only won them train but after wesg golden's t sides became really bad , and thats one of the reasons why fnatic was failing so bad. they had good ct sides but they were rarely winning 5+ runds on the t side. thats why fnatic lost to astralis at marsielle ( they were 12-7 up on mirage) and to faze at sydney on mirage. they only made it that far in both those events becausethey played bad teams (tyloo , renegades , nip , g2 , chiefs , and they lost to navi , faze and astralis). thats not good enough for a team that has multiple major winners
2018-06-17 15:31
+1 Mr MeMeMeisteR2
2018-06-19 10:26
he will join NIP cuz get_kicked
2018-06-17 17:13
hope so +1
2018-06-17 17:47
#115
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Czech Republic moky 
:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( legend
2018-06-17 17:15
+1 Mr moky
2018-06-18 07:33
#116
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France LauraS 
Hopefully he has a place reserved on the Academy roster ;-;
2018-06-17 17:17
he deserves better than this Mrs/Miss LauraS
2018-06-18 08:30
He very succ ball Happy >>>>>> Kioshima >>>>>> Golden
2018-06-17 18:58
good name Mr jw_3_major_s1mple_0_major, welcome to the cult, i shall add you to the list of memebers i cant say i agree with you comment, i am big fan of all those 3 players
2018-06-17 22:53
But happy is ofcourse besterest of those three, no? Btw i am GovernmentConspiraciesDebunked
2018-06-17 22:59
ah Mr GovernmentConspiraciesDebunked, you are very good man, glad to see you have joined the cult, you are high ranking member already. yes ofc Happy is very bestest
2018-06-17 23:04
#125
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
fnatic won't work without him and Lekr0. They were struggling alot Golden and Lekr0 made them great again, and they fucking do a mistake again.
2018-06-17 22:54
+1 Mr headshotk1ng you smart man
2018-06-18 07:44
#127
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Brazil Alexandeer 
Nazi mods.
2018-06-17 23:01
careful Mr Alexandeer, they probably ban you :(
2018-06-18 00:12
#131
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Brazil Alexandeer 
:( feelsbadman
2018-06-18 00:14
it was a dumb move tbh. he's not as young as some might think without looking it up but since he's so inexperienced within t1 cs i feel like he coulda still developed a bit more as a player. better to keep a player like that and bank on him improving than pick up a washed up shitter like xizt who has proven for years on end that he can't consistently benefit a t1 team
2018-06-18 10:30
+1
2018-06-18 11:33
#142
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United States ascendaNt_88 
okay buddy retard
2018-06-18 16:35
thanks for your really insightful comment there Mr ascendaNt_88
2018-06-18 21:27
#145
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Finland Ingested 
deserved
2018-06-18 21:30
why though MrIngested :(
2018-06-18 22:16
#149
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Finland Ingested 
I dunno tbh friend :((
2018-06-18 23:56
so you dont think it was deserved really?
2018-06-19 00:00
#151
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Finland Ingested 
meh don't really care for Mikhail "Fnatic" Toledo clan too much. Retarded roster changes
2018-06-19 00:02
Shit happens he has to get over it and find a new team ASAP
2018-06-18 21:30
+1 Mr not_my_proudest_fap, good mentality
2018-06-18 21:40
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