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New Zealand Iwasntwrong 
FNATIC behind fucking North and SK at 6th without doing a shit and only having decent results at tier 3 tournament in 3rd world country AHHAHAHHAHA, is this a fucking joke?
2018-06-18 20:29
2018-06-18 20:30
Yes it is
2018-06-18 20:31
Sweden axim51v 
NRG +190 points LUL
2018-06-18 20:32
ropz | 
Europe SadPuppet 
but NRG played well last months. I think they deserve top 10 now.
2018-06-20 18:51
Thorin | 
Egypt True_ 
NRG can probably beat SK LUL
2018-06-21 23:01
maybe. they played really good.
2018-06-22 23:05
Thorin | 
Egypt True_ 
I could put NRG as favorites but now FalleN is back to igl so coldzera will play good
2018-06-22 23:35
Fnatic 7th at least
2018-06-18 20:34
I mean, ECS was the only bad tournament they had this year (Starladder aside) and it was because they had the hardest group possible while playing with a bad transition roster, theyre 6564645 times better than North and sk
2018-06-18 20:36
World nakTriceps 
SK is equal fnatic atm.
2018-06-18 20:49
??? expected b8 from stewi2kkkk fan, SK has been shit the whole year and it aint better now, only tournament they can look good at are tier 3 against nonamer and they cant do shit at big tournaments, Never won a single series against a good team this year appart of that chokequid series with taco giving it to them for free
2018-06-18 20:52
World nakTriceps 
Liquid > fnatic atm. So SK could easily beat fnatic. Fnatic made roster chances. They are in same level of SK, trust me.
2018-06-19 03:42
Only thing I see is that SK is bad as fuck this year, cant get a single good result at any tier 1 tournament they attend and can only do Something at tier 3 event but its expected from stewie2Gay fan, when SK will get the results FNATIC got ijn the last month against decent teams I will consider them as equal, for now SK is still a joke
2018-06-19 15:12
World nakTriceps 
SK is improving day by day. Communication is something very difficult to improve. They always in recent losses are struggling in round pistols or losing anti-eco rounds that are costing the matches. They are strong. They could beat fnatic easily. fnatic has to prove too with the new lineup (promising lineup, I admit). But atm they are 50-50. fnatic is inconsistent, too, nowadays.
2018-06-19 15:30
2018-06-20 18:48
He is a mentally ill fan, its expected to see delusional shit like this from this kind of kids
2018-06-21 13:32
Brazil leo1mibr 
nah.. stfu and get out your post is dumb like you and your family
2018-06-21 14:03
Ahahahha, you're just proving even more my point, monkey brain in a nutshell
2018-06-21 14:47
Brazil leo1mibr 
no i'm not just baiting you and you are doing what a want, just like an albino monkey
2018-06-21 17:25
World nakTriceps 
"kid"... hahahaha bad bait, little baby. 13yrs old calling others "kid". lul
2018-06-21 15:46
I could be your dad poor thing, especially considering the amount of autism you're showing there you're 100% underage so a "kid" by definition
2018-06-21 15:48
World nakTriceps 
oh, sure, son. 13yrs old, dumbass and my dad, no way. OMEGALUL
2018-06-21 16:47
World nakTriceps 
"thorin fan" OMEGALUL Get out of here, little kid
2018-06-21 15:45
Says someone that thinks SK is a strong team LUL
2018-06-21 16:03
World nakTriceps 
Not like Astralis and FaZe atm, but can beat anyone out of these two, kiddo.
2018-06-21 16:45
Sure they can but when will they do it? Dont try to tell me that SK,a team with that results is strong because they arent.Compared to what they were in the past(major champions,best team in the world) they are a disgrace
2018-06-21 16:50
World nakTriceps 
Compared to what they were ok. But I´m not comparing than with the SK best team in the world. They have to improve a lot pistol rounds, and anti-eco. They lost so many pistol rounds that cost them the matches. So many matches that they lost bc pistol and following rounds. If they manage to improve on this (not so difficult I think) they could beat anyone, maybe FaZe, too (Astralis not). Let´s see what Cologne will show for us.
2018-06-21 17:01
True,they have at least shown signs that they can be good,but we have to wait for them to get the big result.Only then we can call them strong
2018-06-21 17:06
Sweden ericlindberg 
>They are strong. They could beat fnatic easily. >But atm they are 50-50.
2018-06-21 23:03
World nakTriceps 
Yep. Exactly this. 50-50, but with the two struggling, could be an easy 2-0 for anyone.
2018-06-23 00:24
Norway fPZ 
So you're saying that they need an easier group to get to semis ? then they dont deserve to be higher. Also they changed players which fucks with points, which basiclly means they dont get full score of those events with the players that isnt part of the roster anymore. If they didnt change up the roster they would prolly be placed higher. Like 6th is fair.
2018-06-20 23:12
Cmon stop bitching faze got the easiest group by far at this tournament and you absolutely they would have got rekt in group is they ended up with astralis in co instand of fnatic
2018-06-21 13:33
Norway fPZ 
First, my post was not bitching or meant to rack down on a team. You r saying that if a team gets easier group they will have a better ranking. Well if you're top 5, you can play whoever. and pls dont bring faze into this cuz they lost just as many points as fnatic when they did roster change and they tend t do good in groupstages. Second, Did you even read what i said about rosterchange ? THIRD. 6-7th is what they deserve at this point, BUT again because of change in roster they have to earn it again. Why even make post about it, its really well explained on what basis the HLTV ranking is based on.
2018-06-21 23:01
fnatic 7 at best lmao
2018-06-20 18:45
I mean, It has always been so fucking weird with nonsense things like this every month but How the fuck is NORTH ranked 8 in the world? They are literally a tier 3 team and only play at shit dreamhack tournament, HLTV you need to Rework your faking ranking system Ive never seen such a bad joke anywhere before
2018-06-18 20:34
north choke every.single.time
2018-06-18 20:36
France raiinnn 
2018-06-18 20:38
sergej | 
Poland Noxize 
vp +6 wtf
2018-06-18 20:39
VP has almost the same points as teams like fnatic, nip and nrg now lmao, theyre not even the best team in poland and get rekt by tier 4 teams on a daily basis but HLTV tell us otherwise, seems legit
2018-06-18 20:43
FaZe +190 points for tier3 Belo Horizonte ^^ OMEGALUL North +2 ahaha fucking danish bullshit ranking
2018-06-18 20:45
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
why do astralis still have 1000 pts
2018-06-18 20:42
2018-06-18 20:46
+1 vladimir
2018-06-19 15:56
cuzthey absolutely fucked everyone in the last two LANs they attended? they also won marseille with only losing one map and got into the finals od sydney
2018-06-20 18:51
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
But they missed the last tournament so there should be some point decay
2018-06-20 19:06
true,but even with that they still deserve the 1000 points imo,they absolutely fucked everyone at EPL and ECS
2018-06-20 19:50
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
They should lose like 15 points from missing a lan
2018-06-20 19:53
Fnatic's recent form was poor and it's been like 3 months since WESG aka the last tournament they won.
2018-06-19 15:48
Still way better than teams like North and SK who only do shit at tier3 tournaments against nonamers (North can even do shit at those actually) and get trash on when playing good teams in tier1 events
2018-06-19 15:52
Yeah but forms matters and both these teams performed better on tournaments (even if they wew t3). Not to mention roster changes within the team and lack of LAN performances.
2018-06-19 15:55
Thats why this ranking system is stupid as fuck actually, then teams like FAZE or Mouz could only attend shit tier 3 tournaments and be higher than astralis since they'll win a lot of those? Thats totally stupid, Get FNATIC, NRG or even teams like NIP at those tournaments instand of SK or North and they would win them ez, but that wouldnt make them better than theyre now
2018-06-19 15:58
SK is well known for grinding on tier 3/4 LAN tournaments so yeah thats the only reason why they have 392 points.
2018-06-19 16:01
Imperial > Win dh summer dominating teams like Optic north ago and being in decent form recently = gain 35-45 points VP > second place at some random chinese event beating t3 tyloo and heroic and getting raped by navi in the final + being in terrible form for months and even losing to teams like fucking paperplanes = gain 70 points
2018-06-19 15:50
HLTV things
2018-06-19 15:58
2018-06-20 18:50
Poland malekkkk 
Everyone who you mentioned are washed up. Even Pride
2018-06-20 18:52
TaZ | 
Poland trollorowy 
sk should be max top10 nrg top13-14 nip top10 north top14-15 astralis still 1000points? OMEGALUL
2018-06-19 15:52
tell me your top10
2018-06-19 15:54
TaZ | 
Poland trollorowy 
1st ence 2nd ago 3 vp 4 astralis 5 faze 6 navi 7 hunden 8 mousesport 9 nip 10 sk
2018-06-19 15:55
2018-06-19 16:07
Denmark Xipingu 
They just won ECS, so yes, 1000 points.
2018-06-20 18:38
Ukraine niXoN|w1 
"FNATIC behind fucking North" Name a notable FNC achievement after DHMarseille plus they changed two members, which costs points. North have been turning up on T2 tourneys, which is where they gained points from. "SK at 6th without doing a shit and only having decent results at tier 3 tournament in 3rd world country" Right now, name a team that is better than SK rn and name that team's most notable achievement in the past month.
2018-06-20 18:37
Denmark Xipingu 
North is only top 10 because so many other teams sucks too much atm to challenge their "achievements" lel, and SK.... Well I have no idea why they are #6.
2018-06-20 18:39
north and astralis not lost points in bullshit ranking
2018-06-20 19:19
Denmark Xipingu 
Why should Astralis lose points for winning ECS? That's just stupid, and idk about North, probably because everyone else sucks apart from Astralis, Navi, FaZe and Mouz.
2018-06-20 20:12
astralis missed 2 tournament not lost points. north shit team, zero tournaments, top8! danish ranking bullshit.
2018-06-20 22:25
Denmark Xipingu 
Achievements are marked as relevant until 3 months has passed. It is those who matters. The ranking cannot account for too many tournaments, it is not their fault. Ofc they will not lose points. That North is top 8 is because other teams aren’t achieved anything.
2018-06-21 00:29
Sweden fearl3ss2 
you lose points when you change roster
2018-06-20 18:44
Other flynttt 
u know what they say about cry? that is free so #cryisfree have a good day
2018-06-20 18:45
Australia Zackatt4ck 
Do you know what they say about Brazilians? That 7-1 is real so #BRA71L Have a good day!
2018-06-20 18:52
2018-06-20 19:12
Other flynttt 
couldnt care less about futball tbh
2018-06-20 20:16
They also say that Brazilians behave like a specific cute animal that it's name is strictly censored for some reason.
2018-06-20 19:13
Other flynttt 
they have reasons to say that but doesnt really make sense for me since we all are monkeys
2018-06-20 20:15
+1 reported btw
2018-06-20 22:58
Other flynttt 
as if i care to be banned again LUL
2018-06-20 22:58
jk LUL
2018-06-20 22:59
Twistzz | 
United States TLO 
Sadly the hltv ranking mean not much
2018-06-20 18:51
Germany grabke 
Sure not true ! But every Ranking has flaws ...
2018-06-20 22:44
Canada TorontoSucks 
They changed 2 players idiot
2018-06-20 23:00
United States Trump2020KAG 
Yea it’s dumb. Placing don’t matter as much as number of events u play.
2018-06-20 23:05
Rankings are stipulated based on a mathematical formula.
2018-06-21 13:34
When was the last time there were 3 North American teams in the top 10?
2018-06-21 13:38
k0nfig | 
Turkey aesky 
fnatic had 2 changes that is normal but idk about north they only played a tier2-3 offline tournament and didnt even win it idk how it works
2018-06-21 13:42
Brazil leo1mibr 
How is the ranking calculated? The world ranking is based on teams' achievements over the past year (with severe decay in points throughout each month), recent form over the last 2 months and performance at the last 10 LAN events. All of that is predicated around a 3-man core each team is required to have in order to retain their past points. Online matches and tournaments are included, but with a diminishing factor which means they cannot make a big difference among the top teams, and mainly serve to put new teams on the map. FEATURED MATCH STARTS IN NOBO 3.41 vs2h : 55m : 27s Red Reserve 1.28 Match page FILTERS Year 2018 2017 2016 2015 Month June May April March February January Day 18th 11th 4th RECENT ACTIVITY FaZe Fallen 19 pl last hope? 54 Easiest countries to bait? 46 NA Players in top20 2018 6 CS: GO New Panorama 6 Valve releases Panorama UI preview 518 Depression 85 s1mple will leave NaVi 71 HLTV RANKING 71 ATTENTION! CSGO FPS DROP PLS HELP 54 Best csgo nick!!?? 6 BEST VPN? 66 Panorama UDI 33 PRO BATTLE ROYALE PART 3 64 VG.Flash vs CyberZen 59 Fnatic 7 vp 5 Thank you HLTV 22 NAF Top 20 2018 32 Norwegian pros admitted to cheating 41 Post new topic LATEST REPLAYS Australia Chiefs Australia Taboo VOD China CyberZen China EHOME VOD Mongolia TheMongolz China 5POWER VOD Australia ORDER Australia Dark Sided VOD United States The Entourage United States Prospects DEMO United States Fam143 United States XFORCE DEMO Uruguay Furious Argentina Isurus DEMO United States boxr United States Swole Patrol DEMO United States The Pioneers North America compLexity DEMO Brazil TeamOne United States Freedom 35 DEMO
2018-06-21 14:04
Portugal dabl1w 
Cry noob
2018-06-21 14:05
2018-06-21 14:07
device | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
2018-06-21 14:07
f0rest | 
United States PlusOne 
It is because they added 2 new players and lost 2 from the top 3 team so points are taken away
2018-06-21 14:08
Germany MyDadOwnsHLTV 
Fnatic traded 2 players recently. The rank is affected by how many players they had in active roster when they had the results And SK shit events victories were less than a month ago, and they made it to semis and quarters in two premier events, so...
2018-06-21 15:04
Sweden wyv0 
How North is ahead of fnatic surely makes no sense
2018-06-21 15:49
Retarded SK fans that are in CS since 2016 trying to explain me how the ranking works lmao, I know how this shit works and all I'm saying there is that this is actually a shit way to give points, this week ranking just proves it with bad teams like north and sk being so high without doing a shit in good tournaments and only having decent results in tier3 tournaments that nobody care about. SK get rekt every time they play a top team and north only play shit tournaments and can even look good at those
2018-06-21 15:53
Norway fPZ 
Sk have better placements with current players and overall this year than fnatic. The fuck you on about ? you clearly dosent know or do research before making posts.
2018-06-21 23:04
I seriously hope you're baiting there or you're the most retarded guy ive ever seen, SK had shit results all year long and is an absolute joke against Good teams, pretty sure we dont Watch the same cs there then, lmao -2 tier 3 tournaments win against nonamers that every team in the top 20 would have won too -Literally Nothing on tier 1 tournaments, getting to quarter at best when they have really lucky groups but getting destroyed as soon as they play a decent LAN team How is that fucking better than FNATIC who won Katowice, WESG ,always made it far at TIER 1 tournaments with almost only losing to the absolute best teams at those (FAZE and astralis) in semis most of the time??? Are you braindead or you're talking about another game?
2018-06-22 12:07
Norway fPZ Read. Also you r still not getting that fnatics achivements dosent count 100 % of the roster change. Im the braindead one ? go bait or stop making stupid ass forum posts if you dont know jack shit about how the ranking is made.
2018-06-22 16:32
Did you even read the comment you were aswering to at first??? My god 20IQ guy comming to prove a point when he didnt even understand the comment he is answering to. I Literally said I know how this shit works and that It's a bad way to give points, and the fact that SK and North are so high or other things like VP being 15 while playing like a tier 4 team for one year now are just here to prove my point. If you dont have anything to say and cant even read a comment then gtfo, useless to answer to say this kind of nonsense, especially when you're not even able to read
2018-06-22 17:27
Norway fPZ 
20 IQ ? Yeah you say you know how works but you clrealy dont xD People always start acting so cool when they dont have good arguments. My post was actually an answear to your post, while you focus on just 1 thing. '' Yeah i know how it works'' but you still type the same stupid stuff that goes against what your saying. You are juast biasd / closed.
2018-06-22 18:33
Ok now you're even making shit assumption because you just found out how retarded you are, if you like to keep commenting even when you know your a shithole that just cant read a comment and started overreacting without reflecting its your problem but its pretty pathetic to not being able to accept you were fucking wrong and couldnt even understand a simple comment, you make yourself look like a fool just because you cant even accept your below IQ, stop trying so hard to have the last word when youve clearly proved how retarded you are, wont make you smarter and next time you answer to someone make sure you've already learn how to read English before
2018-06-22 18:55
Norway fPZ 
K smart guy. keep flaming instead of actually make a an argument or actually show that you know how it works. 20 IQ max
2018-06-22 21:30
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