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coldzera > NiKo
SmithZz | 
Belgium G2_will_win_the_major_ 
coldzera with a better team > NiKo all day
2018-06-22 21:11
SURE
2018-06-22 21:12
WHAT ??!??!?!? U ARE BRAZILIAN U ARE ALL IN DENIAL HOW COULD U SAY THAT???
2018-06-22 22:41
#112
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Czech Republic AXAXAXAXA 
Baitzera Pro exitfragger lul 😂😂
2018-06-23 10:01
Not really NiKo have so much more impact than baitzera that needs a whole team around him and his personal support , NiKo in 2017 if we just look at his stats in FaZe he had better stats than baitzera
2018-06-22 21:13
#4
TACO | 
Brazil TAC0 
bump
2018-06-22 21:13
#21
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Europe VascoRB 
stats isn't everything
2018-06-22 21:39
#23
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
That does just make coldzera look worse lmao he clearly baits everyone
2018-06-22 21:41
#39
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Europe VascoRB 
man, it's his in game role
2018-06-22 22:02
#46
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Baiter is a game role? Lmao
2018-06-22 22:09
#71
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Europe VascoRB 
Do you know what is a second contact?
2018-06-22 23:06
#74
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Sweden Unluko 
No need to argue with FaZe fans, he's just mad that FaZe had lost so many BO3 and BO5's to SK in finals :>
2018-06-23 00:12
#87
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Lol ur clearly a disabled refugee
2018-06-23 00:54
xD
2018-06-23 10:12
#129
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Germany Vini_1337 
qatar btw XD
2018-06-23 16:49
Germany lul .. where u came from ? Poland , Romania ? LMAO
2018-06-23 19:55
hey i got offended
2018-06-25 22:52
Hello , mate. You dont have to , he's just refugee. Just had to point it in some way.
2018-06-25 22:54
#131
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Portugal Flycomes 
From Qatar lul
2018-06-23 16:50
#158
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Obsly not lol
2018-06-23 20:18
#118
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Faze is number 2/1 in the world WHERE THE FUCK ARE SK?
2018-06-23 11:42
#122
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Sweden Unluko 
I don't really care about SK but they are currently #6
2018-06-23 13:45
#125
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Hltv rankings... ResidentSleeper
2018-06-23 15:49
#86
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Second contact doesnt mean to be baiting you either support or if not its because the entry didnt stretch enough for second contact and i wouldnt call that baiting
2018-06-23 00:53
#76
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Yes it is. Every team has baiters. s1mple on NaVi, NiKo on FaZe, cold on SK, ropz on mouz, device on Astralis, f0rest on NiP.. CS doesnt work without baiting. Youre welcome I cured your delusion.
2018-06-23 00:14
#84
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Niko, ropz, and device isnt even close to cold + btw baiting is a bad thing if u havent realised that
2018-06-23 00:51
#88
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
No its really not a bad thing at all. All teams do it. Its an essential part of CS. Just because it has negative connotation to you doesnt mean the process itself is something bad. Someone has to go in first, he gets baited. Ask any pro or watch any pros video on this matter. CS doesnt work without baiting, and usually its the best lateround players on a team doing all the baiting to ensure the teams best chances at a round win. If you disagree with this please just dont reply because in that case youre simply lost and theres no point continuing to embaress yourself.
2018-06-23 00:56
#90
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Baiting and trading isnt the same thing little boy, i mean if the entry doesnt stretch enough on their peeks ofc u cant support at times and can count as baiting for people like you. If u go together with out caring about stretching u both get killed pretty easy (if its not zeus cuz he mg 2 aim)
2018-06-23 01:00
#92
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Trades are a result of baits. Just use a fucking dictionary.. A BAIT is the dude that goes in first, he dies and THEN the trade happens (If the trading guy is good). Your definition of baiting is simply false. You consider it a failed trade attempt. Every single pro considers it the basic principle of one guy going in first (THE BAIT) and another dude attempting a trade. That is baiting. A baiter is a dude who is never the bait and always the guy attempting trades. Success rate of trade has nothing do to with wether or not the process qualifies as baiting or not.
2018-06-23 01:05
forest and Device? no :D
2018-06-23 00:53
#89
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
So youre telling me dev1ce is running in first and dies so that dupreeh can trade ? Nope. Dupreeh runs in first and dies so device can trade. Therefore device is baiting, which is good because you want device to be last alive cos hes awesome. Still a baiter though.
2018-06-23 00:58
#91
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
He isnt shit like cold if he doesnt have someone to trade
2018-06-23 01:01
#93
swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
colzeras value as a player has nothing to do with that discussion lol. Device is a baiter, cold is a baiter. Thats my only point.
2018-06-23 01:06
#94
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
We’re talking about whose better if u dont already know that
2018-06-23 01:22
running in second is far from baiting someone.
2018-06-23 13:09
#135
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India AJITYADAV 
+100
2018-06-23 18:04
Except that all those players do still good without baiting too but cold goes to 1.05 rating
2018-06-23 20:04
Now say that again with coldzera and SK in 2018
2018-06-22 21:41
#27
NEKIZ | 
Brazil pluga 
what game are you watching?
2018-06-22 21:44
Every event every game sometimes i download demos aswell if there is a really good game
2018-06-22 21:44
#29
NEKIZ | 
Brazil pluga 
dota events?
2018-06-22 21:45
Why would i
2018-06-22 21:45
s1mple fan checkout
2018-06-22 22:00
Are you mad that S1mple is destroying coldzeras stats in 2016 2017 2018 ? And that he have 4 MVP's and coldzera 0 ?
2018-06-22 22:01
didnt read. Coldzera > S1mple, despite of S1mple is a better baiter than cold.
2018-06-22 22:03
Yes thats why he have less SMG (ECO) kills have way better opening kill rating and impact rating He have higher impact rating than the rating itself even when he already have insane rating at 1.35 and coldzera have lower impact rating than the rating itself HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA BAITZERA GROUPEXITZERA HAHAHAHAH
2018-06-22 22:05
again didnt read because it will have very offensive and I now CIS are like brazilian fans. Coldzera MUCH more wins in his life than s1mple. S1mple need to play at least 5 years at top1 to achieve what cold had in 2 years.
2018-06-22 22:08
Yes was just playing for trash teams and had basicly same stats as coldzera in 2016 and 2017 and now when Na'Vi is little better S1mple is destroying baitzera stats so hard that its not even close even if we go back to 2016/2017 and now when SK is doing worse coldzera cant do shit fucking baiter HAHAHAHAA
2018-06-22 22:10
Still didn't read. How is write a book to people that will not read? S1mple baiter and expending their time he is good . Next year he will be like Scream
2018-06-23 00:07
dont argue with retards bro come on
2018-06-23 20:05
we are living in 2018 lmao
2018-06-23 13:51
They are happy indeed... Coldzera was important in the titles MLG Columbus 2016 ESL Pro League Season 3 Finals ESL One Cologne 2016 IEM Sydney 2017 ECS Season 3 Finals ESL One Cologne 2017 EPICENTER 2017 BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen 2017 ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals and (irrelevants) MAX5 Invitational DreamHack Austin 2016 cs_summit Spring 2017 DreamHack Open Summer 2017 Adrenaline Cyber League 2018 Moche XL Esports The Brazilians must be really mad for S1mple to have stats better than those of coldzera LMAO
2018-06-22 22:12
So you are comparing team achievments to a player now nice What have that anything to do with 2018 and how bad coldzera is
2018-06-22 22:14
"Coldzera was important in the titles" 1.17 rating is shit rn, you are right LOL xD The brazilians must be very mad xD
2018-06-22 22:17
10 events 1 EVP Check what teams he plays and his rating vs tier 1 teams like FaZe Astralis Mousesports Na'Vi He have lower impact rating than the rating itself He he a lot of exit frags you can litterly go and watch any demo You can also compare his stats after his personal support TACO left Here is a old thread i made before aswell that show that he is a baiter hltv.org/forums/threads/1722610/baitzera
2018-06-22 22:19
You see the statistics, I see the game... And in the last 2 years coldzera was the absolute #1... Just this :) Your life here is to try to make everything hate coldzera by calling him baitzera so that your favorite player is loved by all? You look a lot like the early fans of coldzera comparing it to Olof 2015... Thing of retarded LOL
2018-06-22 22:23
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
2018-06-22 22:24
<3
2018-06-22 22:30
It is interesting. How can people be THAT delusional?
2018-06-23 10:04
coldzera in 2k18 OMEGALUL
2018-06-22 21:13
#5
TACO | 
Brazil TAC0 
+1
2018-06-22 21:13
#7
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Poland HotMuslim 
+1
2018-06-22 21:14
expect.
2018-06-22 22:03
+1
2018-06-22 21:17
#14
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Brazil LucasPaqueta 
nt prokda
2018-06-22 21:19
#25
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Flag checks out
2018-06-22 21:42
#6
TACO | 
Brazil TAC0 
NTBaitzera
2018-06-22 21:13
#60
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
im TACO btw
2018-06-22 22:34
compare baitzero vs choko LUL nt georgie axaxaxaxa
2018-06-22 21:14
P1mple? Very great Lan winner
2018-06-22 21:15
lul botpimple LUL axaxaxaxaxa
2018-06-22 21:17
gg
2018-06-22 21:20
Well i supposed you like s1mple since you are russian and its the same thing like ukraine Since you dont like these two (Niko,Shitzera)
2018-06-22 21:37
nope...pimple is good like baitzero or choko but idnt like pimple for me is rat person axaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2018-06-22 21:50
#82
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Russia Slava_slava 
why rat bro? in my opinion S1mple is THE MOST honest person in CS:GO if you ask about pros... and he got punished for his honesty many times by the way.
2018-06-23 00:25
#95
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Singapore Wyattbenko 
True but sometimes i just hate simple
2018-06-23 07:26
vladimir is retarded
2018-06-23 09:32
#103
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Russia Slava_slava 
probably yes :( or baiting.
2018-06-23 09:48
Retarded cuz idnt like pimple person? LUL nt pimple axaxaxa
2018-06-23 09:58
LUL wake up kiddo axaxaxaxa
2018-06-23 09:56
Nt d1m1tr1 xaxaxaxaxaxxaxaxa
2018-06-23 09:53
Dimitri is retarded stalker not me LUL axaxaxaxa
2018-06-23 09:59
nt santa claus xaxaxaxaxaxa
2018-06-23 14:35
ded moroz LUL axaxaxaxaxaxa
2018-06-23 19:49
daun claus LUL XAXAXAXAXAXAXA
2018-06-23 19:50
i mean niko isnt even the best player on his team and would barely have kills if he didnt bait so much
2018-06-22 21:14
xd
2018-06-22 21:23
#30
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Europe NoKeTchup 
sk fan talking about baiting LUL *Cough baitzera *Cough
2018-06-22 21:45
what makes you think i´m an sk fan? typical sub50 IQ plastic fan lmao
2018-06-22 21:46
#35
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Europe NoKeTchup 
so prove that niko is baiting
2018-06-22 21:59
look at their fucking games
2018-06-22 22:02
#96
f0rest | 
Sweden Alko^ 
flag checks out
2018-06-23 09:25
another 0/8
2018-06-23 20:05
real shit nibba?????
2018-06-22 21:20
baitzera + baiTACO > NiKo baitzera <<<<<<< NiKo
2018-06-22 21:21
Coldzera in a good team > NiKo
2018-06-23 00:20
n o .
2018-06-23 20:05
taco_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-06-22 21:23
#22
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Europe trey_ 
0/8 LMAO
2018-06-22 21:40
#26
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
ChrisJ is amazing really. Very good and underrated player. Guy will entry like a fucking madman for his team, do clutches, AWP, IGL, throw yo le noob grenades, everything. Awesome and versatile. With oskar in the team he takes a backseat a bit in the team but with n0thing in the team, you can see what he's capable off. He went fucking OFF and Belo Horizonte
2018-06-22 21:43
#113
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Czech Republic AXAXAXAXA 
I think Oskar should take the rifle role and let Chris awp for a few days :D
2018-06-23 10:02
#32
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Azerbaijan shAdOvv 
Coldzera delivers almost everytime (for 2.5 years), whereas NiKo can have awful game at the most important moment. That is why Coldzera was the best for 2 continuous years.
2018-06-22 21:46
+1
2018-06-22 22:33
yees, he was good at baiting Taco
2018-06-22 22:57
#97
f0rest | 
Sweden Alko^ 
Look at his last 3 finals then say again ”awful game at the most important moment”
2018-06-23 09:27
Oh yeah cause cold hasn't fucked up
2018-06-23 20:06
#40
swag | 
Brazil Douplesxx 
Stop making these stupid threads, everyone knows that -.-
2018-06-22 22:03
#50
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Brazil SKu11 
with a better team even I'm good player, it's only you to take the example of Messi. Messi with Argentina is a waste Messi in Barcelona is a legend
2018-06-22 22:15
+1 there is no better example
2018-06-22 22:33
this makes no sense because cs is completly different from football. you can compare because both play third contact in their teams, they to the role kids call "baiter" the retarded comparison would be comparing cold to apex, or something like that both niko and cold play on t1 teams, we could see them in high pressure situations many times, and they play around same role, so its very comparable
2018-06-22 22:35
#69
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Brazil SKu11 
what I wanted to say is that if you have a good team is much easier u be a better player than if you don't had a good team with u. When SK it worked perfectly, cold looked like unstoppable, and right now we see that only one guy, don't make any differency if he will be "alone". This is the comparison with Messi in Barcelona and Argentina.
2018-06-22 22:52
#55
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
s1mple > both so whatever.
2018-06-22 22:27
#80
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Russia Slava_slava 
+1
2018-06-23 00:23
coldzera dont choke on pressure situations only by that cold > abism > choker
2018-06-22 22:33
#62
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
very true #COLDTHEBRAZILIANXANTARES
2018-06-22 22:36
+1 #mibr.XANTARES
2018-06-22 22:37
#65
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
coldzera XANTARES fer FalleN kNg even Astralis cannot beat them such a beast team !
2018-06-22 22:37
+1 and if astralis get close kng threatthem, they are very innocent guys, so ez win anyways if u can beat astralis = top1 #mibrtop1 #thecryisfree
2018-06-22 22:38
#67
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
Very true, FaZe in 2k18 lul #REKT
2018-06-22 22:40
#114
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Czech Republic AXAXAXAXA 
Hahaha Astralis bunch of innocent guys Xd
2018-06-23 10:03
+1
2018-06-22 22:36
#99
f0rest | 
Sweden Alko^ 
hltv.org/matches/2323775/faze-vs-mousesp.. lol choker niko wtf only 1.40 rating on 5 maps wtf!!!! what a choker
2018-06-23 09:34
People who think Cold>Niko are same people who think Messi>Ronaldo. They need help.
2018-06-22 23:07
Messi > Ronaldo btw
2018-06-23 00:20
#100
f0rest | 
Sweden Alko^ 
Messi has touched the ball as many times as Ronaldo has scored at world cup hahahaahah
2018-06-23 09:35
#75
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Russia Slava_slava 
S1mple >>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
2018-06-23 00:13
#79
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Armenia 1915 
+474810579
2018-06-23 00:22
+474810580
2018-06-23 09:51
#81
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
haHAA No.
2018-06-23 00:24
#83
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
NIK0K0>WARMZERA
2018-06-23 00:25
#101
f0rest | 
Sweden Alko^ 
NiKoLiNh0 > baitzera
2018-06-23 09:35
Comparing the god of the last two years to ChoKo LUL
2018-06-23 09:44
+1
2018-06-23 09:50
reported for jebaiting
2018-06-23 09:52
#109
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Armenia gr1nch 
who cares about #2#3#4? s1mple top#1
2018-06-23 09:58
rofl retard
2018-06-23 10:22
Not cool :/
2018-06-23 16:42
true:)
2018-06-23 13:10
s1mple top 1
2018-06-23 13:12
#127
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Suk_Mike_Hok 
Let me fix that for you Cold with TACO > NiKo Sounds better doesn't it ?
2018-06-23 16:45
xD ROFL LMFAO LMAO HAHAHAH
2018-06-23 19:53
#128
Hiko | 
Turkey vVoLF07 
SK made coldzera better NiKo made FaZe Clan better NiKo > Coldzera
2018-06-23 16:47
FaZe Clan's playstyle is all about individual performance, what did you expect
2018-06-23 17:59
umm NiKo was the only players that was tier1 on old FaZe and even rain wasn't on his form back then and they were good hmmm.. continue with your 0/8 baits, you go from normal to georgewashington all the time STOP DISAPPOINTING
2018-06-23 20:07
coldzera>niko in my opinion,because coldzera doesn't choke in major finals and awps better than niko and he's a smarter player than niko
2018-06-23 16:49
+1
2018-06-23 17:58
#134
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Brazil GoldZera 
are you kidding me? lol faze cant win a major without paying
2018-06-23 18:01
Says the retards that is trying to buy out NiKo+rain but failed then S1mple+flamie but failed so ended up with Stewie2k they did try autimatic aswell but he said no
2018-06-23 19:53
COLDZERA > NIKO for what he did, but not at the moment... no way
2018-06-23 19:53
You mean what SK and TACO did for him
2018-06-23 19:54
I don´t understand... what do you mean when you say "what SK and Taco did to him"
2018-06-23 19:57
SK is the team that plays around a player the most and TACO does so much shit for coldzera that fucks TACO stats and help coldzera stats We saw how many bad games coldzera had when TACO left and he have really low impact when Fallen and Fer is not as good anymore
2018-06-23 20:02
perhaps... I don´t disagree at all, but if you watch Taco´s stats at Liquid, he usually is one of the lower fragger also...
2018-06-23 20:03
He have games when he is top 1-2 aswell now most recent he have been playing overall bad tho
2018-06-23 20:05
More like Lol no.
2018-06-23 19:59
no
2018-06-23 20:02
i've never seen cold do anything impressive enough for me to remember, literally nothing, not even the jumping awp shit that was just luck Niko on the other hand is a literal god, cold has never been on the same level as niko and never will be, every tournament niko makes some of the most mind blowing plays ive ever seen
2018-06-23 20:07
Nothing impressive ? Did you start watching CS this year?
2018-06-23 20:34
watched every match since 2013 in that time i've seen fallen make more memorable plays than baitzera, cold will always be the most overhyped team carried player in the history of cs
2018-06-23 21:38
LMAO 0/8
2018-06-24 06:25
why are you so fucking delusional? or are you just trying to trigger people?
2018-06-25 22:58
#164
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Brazil mathellsmelo 
s1mple = coldzera = niko who is better than those three? NOBODY
2018-06-24 21:14
s1mple better than both but coldzera > NiKo
2018-06-25 18:01
^this
2018-06-25 22:52
#166
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Brazil beckergod 
in 2018 niko is better for sure, but when cold back to god form, ez for cold
2018-06-25 18:08
#172
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Brazil Collee 
+1 we all saw how cold vs NiKo used to be when SK were on their peak. Just a matter of time
2018-06-25 22:54
#167
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Portugal cxretr 
Never lul
2018-06-25 22:50
yep
2018-06-25 22:52
#171
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Brazil Collee 
+1 also Neymar with a better team > chokenaldo
2018-06-25 22:53
NiKo with a better team> coldzera with a better team WHATS UR FUCKING POINT?
2018-06-25 22:59
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