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EU WTF!?
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
French President Emmanuel Macron declares his support for financial sanctions against EU countries which refuse to accept migrants. source: yahoo.com/news/macron-backs-sanctions-eu.. Poland and many other countries will be under EU sanctions for not accepting refugees?
2018-06-23 19:40
because other countries already gave too much.
2018-06-23 19:42
#3
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
But that doesn't justify sanctioning own members and even allies at some point.
2018-06-23 19:47
at some point i have to agree, but strctly denying to help your "allies" is noch "unionlike" as well. get my point?
2018-06-23 19:54
#22
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Yeah, that seems fair. However, I don't see this working - many states have already closed their borders and some are going to. Thus this situation can be called a crisis of EU politics.
2018-06-23 20:00
I totally agree
2018-06-23 20:03
#35
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Canada TwistedFate 
" Poland and many other countries will be under EU sanctions for not accepting refugees? " that sounds more like pigs who have nothing to do so they protest against people trying to survive.
2018-06-23 20:04
#76
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Poland M41K3L 
people trying to survive LMAO typical braindead NA talking, you have no idea what is happening in europe right now. 90% of these people are illegal immigrants, not refugees, that are destroying they ID's and illegally comes to EU to live from social benefits that are very high in most of europen countries. This leads to situations that real refugees from Syria for example have to live in camps for immigrants in poor standards of life. I am for acceptation of real refugees in EU but not for these illegal immigrants that don't want to assimilate with europen people.
2018-06-23 20:23
#85
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Czech Republic JakamanCZ 
At least stop sucking data out of your finger. There are none. Thx.
2018-06-23 20:35
#89
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Europe deVulse 
leftist detected
2018-06-23 20:57
#94
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Czech Republic JakamanCZ 
You assumed my political opinions from 3 short sentences? Bravo. Making statements with facts behind them is too much to ask?
2018-06-23 21:04
All of the refugees in my village are cool guys, don't be afraid. They are normal people :)
2018-06-23 21:19
Lulled
2018-06-24 16:21
Fake news
2018-06-24 15:38
This is good it will lead to the end of the EU very nice
2018-06-23 19:44
#69
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Denmark CompactDisc 
+1
2018-06-23 20:19
#81
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Poland Trausky 
meanwhile Presidents of Estonia, Iceland, Finland and Poland i.redd.it/6btf7xy7il511.jpg
2018-06-23 20:28
what is the real context of the image
2018-06-23 22:17
I think that's their reaction after Iceland missed a penalty kick against Nigeria few days ago.
2018-06-24 15:42
what is that? :D
2018-06-24 15:26
:DD next elections in 2019 will make their life even harder in finland +60% against them. Already they cut out medicines, housing etc from illegal burgers
2018-06-24 16:25
#90
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Europe deVulse 
+1 EU is a bunch of hypocrites fck them, first they accept refugees regardless that majority of people was against it and then they cry about democracy in poland LUL
2018-06-23 21:01
WTF NO PLEASE NO STOP LETWINGED PEOPLE LIKE MACRON PLEASE
2018-06-23 19:49
Fair move , when you want to have the benefits of EU you have to do what you accepted when you joined .
2018-06-23 19:49
this
2018-06-23 19:57
+1
2018-06-23 20:01
#46
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
expected from Greece
2018-06-23 20:08
#66
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Slovakia chaooos 
Ye and shouldnt EU do desisions together? Why they go against their 'allies'??? Its so dumb imo.
2018-06-23 20:18
80% of EU countries accept to take the amount of refugees they have to take , you speak about 3-4 countries which are against??
2018-06-23 20:21
I don't have anything against the refugees. But you have to ask yourself ... why is it that when a new country wants to join the EU, there has to be an unanimous decision, but when the refugees were accepted, there was no unanimous decision required.
2018-06-23 20:30
These things m8 are 2 completely diffrent things . When a country join EU automatically their citizen can go everywhere in EU with only ID , armies work together , lands at some situation are shared , you cant compare these things with 3-4 million refugees.
2018-06-23 20:33
it's actually the same thing. If for example .. Montenegro applies now for the EU membership. Then for you as a greek, it means that any montenegrin can come live in your country freely, it's the same thing ... as when you accept refugees, any refugee can do the same, BUT as an extra, the refugee can't even leave freely to another EU state, the montenegrin maybe doesn't like it there and goes to bulgaria, because he is free to do so. You are thinking too much in terms of ... the refugees' power and flexibility to choose, and too little on the effect it has on you/your state. The effect is the same, people will be allowed to come into YOUR country FREELY.
2018-06-23 20:44
M8 no offense but you dont have idea about reality . Montenegro citizen can come here with aeroplane , have a job annd live normal . Immigrants and refugges are strictly IN camps , they cant get a job without papers , if they steal anything we deport them , more than 5000 immigrants here live in 30m houses in a secured area . Immigrants can go to other EU countries ONLy if they run out of borders illegally etc etc Completely diffrent, also its the SAME thing French and UK f-16 and u-35 fly threw the Greece , with some immigrants?? Really now?
2018-06-23 20:51
No idea how the concept of unanimous decision for 'open borders' can be so difficult to understand. but anyway ... in Greece refugees can work without any work permit or papers since 2016 (as it is in most EU countries actually - including Poland btw). You don't even know your country's laws or position .. ok waste of time.
2018-06-23 21:18
In Greece refugees can work without papers ... Any source?? Cause i can say that elephants can fly too
2018-06-23 21:20
Classik Hltv retard , when you ask for source run away like scared rat. Hahahahhahah
2018-06-23 22:01
Greece law 4375/2016 article 69 (it's not a joke). Have fun. The fact that you think HLTV.org is my job and i have no other things to do, just proves my initial guess that it's just a waste of time to talk to you. Good luck in life. PS : Poland has such a law since 2003, and Slovakia since 2002.
2018-06-23 22:07
This LAW say that any refugee with PAPERS and residence permits can work . Hahahahhahahahah dude are you retarded?? hahahahahahahhahahahahha Wtf is this shit i am done really
2018-06-23 22:17
I'll translate the law for you, because English is probably not your strong point : Refugees with a residence permit can work without any work permit. They get a 3 year residence permit, just by entering the country and stating they want to remain there. There are no other papers involved. English translation for max 80 IQ people : Refugee wants to enter Greece. Refugee gets stopped at the border, he is asked if he wants to remain in Greece, he says yes, he then gets a 3 year long residence permit by default, without basically doing anything else, because that's Greece's process of dealing with refugees. And why does this happen ? well because a refugee does not simply enter Greece like a guy jogging around park, goes to the closest supermarket to get a job saying "Hello i'm a refugee, i've just arrived 30 minutes ago, i want a job, nobody actually knows that i'm here, they let me through at the border because i look like a nice guy", and the supermarket employer says "yeah you look like a refugee, i guess we will just hire you, you don't even need a bank account, we will just pay you in cash". Do you not understand the principle of - they are allowed to work without a work permit ? And the fact that they get the residence permit just by ARRIVING and ACCEPTING to stay in Greece ? PS : a guy from Montenegro NEEDS 1. a residence permit, 2. a work permit. To follow the earlier example. You are literally clueless about your own country's visa and laws policy, and are probably just trolling around and wasting your life while trying to waste it for others also. I've tried my best to at least 'save' someone, but ... sometimes it's just impossible. I'm sorry for you if you don't understand this basic logic right now.
2018-06-23 22:49
I dont need translate man , i just read it at Greek language , you know i can read Greek Law in Greek Language , i suppose a person with 10 IQ should know it . 1st step . You ask the name, and many many more informations of refugee 2nd step. You confirm that this person says the truth from embassy 3rd step 80-85% of persons declined cause they are immigrants and lying, 15-20 % are actual refugees 4rth step Immigrants go to closed areas , refugees go to camps with small house -water-electricity-internet annd a basik salary 5th if a refugee start work dont get the basik salary which is free , also cant stay in camps , so no one does it If you dont have a single idea about fucking reality , and you believe that you know everything just cause you search Google , better stfu The best Part : Refugee gets stopped at the border, he is asked if he wants to remain in Greece, he says yes, he then gets a 3 year long residence permit by default Hahhahahahahahhahahahahaah mann after 1 year here you are officially the most retarded person i have ever speaked ahahhahahahahahhahaha totally Poorlak fakeflagger YES i am Refugee OK my friend here are your papers HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH I go to drink , really that time i wasted with you totally wasted YES i am Refugee OK my friend here are your papers HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH
2018-06-23 23:07
Go to ... your government's page for refugees support, read Q4 2017/09, which actually describes the whole process. I'm surprised you took everything i wrote so literally, you must be definitely either a hater or just trolling hard. And then .. if you think i'm fakeflagging, that's your problem.
2018-06-23 23:21
I live in Kos , 20 min from Turkey , we had more than 200 k refugees - immigrants last 2 years , i worked 6 months at the base of people who came illegaly to our island . Cause money were good . I know this situation from reality not from papers . Bye
2018-06-23 23:29
what worries me the most is that you've worked there, and still think that a refugee should just come straight into your country and just get a job on day 1, with no registration/residence permit. nada ... if you'll ever see the reality of moving to a country in which even with a residence permit, you can't get a job because you'll need an extra work permit, you might realise what is 'easy' and what is 'hard' when trying to get a job. And what 'papers' actually means. Bye
2018-06-23 23:40
#93
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Europe deVulse 
lets start with the fact that 80% of people in countries that accepted refugees was against accepting them yet they are forced to live with them and pay everything for them :)
2018-06-23 21:03
#97
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Slovakia chaooos 
+1
2018-06-23 21:08
Sorry thats your dellusional opinion not the reality , countries have governments , governments have votes , governments represent people of the countries , etc etc EU pays every single refugee, not the country individually , you think Greece have money to spend for refugees , EU send money ... And pls if you dont have FACTS , i cant discuss with dellusional thoughts
2018-06-23 21:12
+1 fucking braindead here
2018-06-23 22:20
#9
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Chile boongp 
EU turning into a ghetto, tell me something new
2018-06-23 19:49
#10
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Poland MAGA2020 
germany and france are the two last representatives of this whole refugee nonsense, they'll fall soon
2018-06-23 19:50
You forgot sweden my friend
2018-06-23 19:55
#14
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Poland MAGA2020 
didn't you close your borders? also SD is the strongest party ríght now, no?
2018-06-23 19:56
I will vote for the SCP next election (Swedish Cuck Party) they will get about 5% of the votes. Together with left-green we can open the borders again and reclaim our throne as the humanitarian superpower again back from germany. Ez
2018-06-23 19:58
#18
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Poland MAGA2020 
noice
2018-06-23 19:59
#30
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Poland Trausky 
hahaha smart move
2018-06-23 20:02
they will give up soon and wont let anybody in their country anymore. like austria, they already started going in that direction
2018-06-23 19:55
what will you do to the refugees? do you want them to die or what?
2018-06-23 19:58
Nope, there are other countries, or kick the ones that cant behave. I welcome the sanction declaration
2018-06-23 20:00
yes
2018-06-23 20:01
#26
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
Yes
2018-06-23 20:01
Really now you expect these kiddos to understand reality?? If they see a cockroach they screaming to their father to come and kill it , and you believe these guys have the balls to tell in the face of an refugee go and die?? Dont waste your time my friend , they are keyboard heroes
2018-06-23 20:04
whats your point now?
2018-06-23 20:08
you are a refugee 100%
2018-06-24 15:29
#34
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Poland Trausky 
yes
2018-06-23 20:04
You forgot Spain-Italy-Greece- luxembourg- Holland and many many more
2018-06-23 20:13
#56
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Poland MAGA2020 
spain, italy? how many refugees are in luxembourg? "many many more" lmao, idiot
2018-06-23 20:13
Answer without logik, expected
2018-06-23 20:14
#62
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Poland MAGA2020 
2018-06-23 20:16
Waste of time , you are to dumb
2018-06-23 20:17
#57
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Italy's prime minister has stated that EU will be destroyed if refugees policy is kept.
2018-06-23 20:14
Yeah you are right , but he tell it to change the policy and all EU nations take immigrants and NOT only the borders of EU , Greece agrees with that too. We dont say KILL them and close borders , no one can say that
2018-06-23 20:16
#63
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Poland MAGA2020 
yes, countries can close their borders.
2018-06-23 20:16
Yeah we can close SEA borders xD Keep answering , everyone realise how idiot are you
2018-06-23 20:17
#71
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Oh, i see, but this thread was not about whether it's right to take refugees or not. It's about EU policy that might force some countries to accept them, which might cause(if already it didn't) a crisis of EU politics. I think that real refugees from war zones cannot be abandoned and they should be given an asylum. However, EU policy must not be determined only by super economies like France or Germany, at this point other countries are sovereign and they should at least get a vote on this one.
2018-06-23 20:20
I agree with that But m8 you know that when a country join EU sighnn agreements , and 1 agreement say that when you have refugees or immigrants anyone have to take them cause borders are open in EU . With your logik Greece and Italy are the borders of EU , if anyone close the borders all immigrants and refugees will stack in Greece and Italy . Thats why called European Union , we are not Union at money but when we have problems we are individual.you got my point?
2018-06-23 20:24
#78
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
yeah, gotcha
2018-06-23 20:25
#96
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Europe deVulse 
well germany is already failing, but expected considering the fact that their leader made a decision even tho majority of people was against it. like honestly what did u expect guys lul?
2018-06-23 21:05
#20
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Turkey Purchase 
Europe should accept more refugees. They bomb syria together and refugees come into turkey wtf. Let them go europe.
2018-06-23 20:01
#24
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Poland MAGA2020 
no, neither should turkey. they should all be sent back since they are not in danger anymore.
2018-06-23 20:01
#29
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Turkey Purchase 
Europe and Turkey should negotiate with Assad and the war in syria should be ended.
2018-06-23 20:02
+1
2018-06-23 21:25
#74
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Denmark CompactDisc 
they should just leave the middle east alone, not our problem.
2018-06-23 20:21
nt kebab can't come here
2018-06-24 15:21
#141
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Turkey Purchase 
instead of going to poland i would prefer going syria. u don't need to worry
2018-06-24 16:13
#142
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Czech Republic pureGOD 
.. are u a kebab maker ? cuz i love kebab so much <3
2018-06-24 16:14
no u don't
2018-06-24 16:57
#38
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World Asqueer 
+ migrant + money trust me
2018-06-23 20:05
paying is a better alternative to terrorist attacks
2018-06-23 20:10
xd
2018-06-23 20:18
#86
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Brazil EWRO 
EU is forcing countries to do what they want? Its time to destroy the EU
2018-06-23 20:42
because it is in violation of eu rules to accept no refugees... are you really suprised he is calling for punishment there?
2018-06-23 21:00
#118
2018-06-23 22:37
#95
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France mintzz 
It's an union for a reason, those who get the most money out if EU refuse to give a little hand I don't support refugees tho, but if one has to take then.... yeah makes sense if the EU is to become a superpower together.
2018-06-23 21:05
Forcing someone to do what few states want might not end well. But cutting financial support makes sense, it's just not the best way to make EU united, especially after Brexit and anti-EU rhetoric from Italy.
2018-06-23 22:27
#121
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France mintzz 
I suppose but there needs to be some form of authority, if the EU is to become a stronger state, we all need to go to the same way one way or another. Problem with the EU splitting up would mean weakness facing USA, Russia and China. Right now the EU is an emergent superpower, which gives it a huge influence and strength and keeps the power balance in Europe. The day the EU fails, it's likely everybody's going to try to get on top of someone else. It's a complicated thing but I'd rather not go back to an isolated nationalist europe, as patriotic as I am - I've learned to live with other europeans which I consider close to me. Obviously I would prefer if we all kicked those refugees out, if Europe's going to be strong, we should only accept people who can benefit us.
2018-06-23 22:51
#100
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Australia Zackatt4ck 
You mean Eurabia?
2018-06-23 21:15
nt
2018-06-24 13:46
eu is big yoke, shitty laws, forcing bad things, we are slowly slipping towards total chaos...
2018-06-23 21:19
lmao
2018-06-23 21:20
Fu, we dont want them here, move all of them to france and german and problem solved
2018-06-23 22:19
#128
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France mintzz 
Nobody wants them here lmao
2018-06-24 15:18
#132
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Finland Molias 
nobody wants them anywhere lmao
2018-06-24 15:29
#134
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France mintzz 
What about feeding the sharks?
2018-06-24 15:30
#135
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Finland Molias 
dont think the sharks would want them either
2018-06-24 15:30
#136
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France mintzz 
Maybe a volcano?
2018-06-24 15:31
so they should get money and benefits but wont help? okay?
2018-06-23 22:20
"If were gonna ruin our country you have too as well" - Macron
2018-06-23 22:21
If you'd say EU fucked or russia fucked or even usa fucked cuz of school shootings - you're blind. World is fucked.
2018-06-23 23:33
So paying would justify closing the border - let them roam in France and Italy. What we should do is, using this money to create good refugee camps in their own area not in Europe. They don't have be smuggled or drown at sea. When the War is over, they can return to home.
2018-06-24 15:29
What? migrants werent good? why nobody wants them anymore? WHATTT? WHATT?
2018-06-24 15:32
+1
2018-06-24 15:34
#144
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Mongolia BR_SO_BONOBO 
Well my friend in Sweden says these refugees are just animals. Is it true ?
2018-06-24 16:20
Sounds about right
2018-06-24 16:28
#143
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Mongolia BR_SO_BONOBO 
Somehow BRITS knew this was gonna happen and pulled themselves out. Dam this brit cucks are good.
2018-06-24 16:19
#148
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France TheFaren 
They agreed to take in migrants now they say no so sanctions, makes complete sense.
2018-06-24 16:30
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