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time to leave this cs scene
World hhktf2 
orgs making ridiculous moves. its all international now snax to mouse in general cs scene is full of "international" teams is like valve adding more RNG to the game. this shit is all about betting let me explain you guys the business. market makers plan (they placed their bets 5 years ahead): we go back to 2013-2018: NIP era fnatic era VP era Astralis era VP era SK era Astralis era Faze era SK era Faze era if you arent awake yet, have fun being a sheep, trying to get rich on bets, while everything ahead of time is already planned. have fun im leaving, used to watch this stuff for the flicks and headshots, but i see what they are doing.
2018-06-27 20:01
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its nice for me tho. 10 years ago there were no such a things like international teams. i like this. we live in strage times where vp are out of two players already, but what to do
2018-06-27 20:02
when i was watching this they introduced one international team that everyone doubted, and that was kinguin with scream rain fox and the other guys, it was fun to watch them lose of course, but now orgs pull those teams out their ass to shake up the odds, trust me, its all about bets, and higher ups buy games.
2018-06-27 20:04
making international teams is a sign for me that cs pro scene is dying. the nations dont have enough upcoming talent to use and help themselves by going international.
2018-06-27 20:05
maybe
2018-06-27 20:08
theres enough talents, but orgs want names that are already known, please look beyond... why do they not introduce new names? not because there arent any, theres ALOT, its because orgs are money hungry and only want names that are already known, for sponsors and stuff
2018-06-27 20:11
those players with names that help the brand are just a few.
2018-06-27 20:14
there are so many players who are stuck in tier 3 cs and cant make the jump.
2018-06-27 20:15
those players with names are the same players from 4 years ago, no new talents. same sponsorships, understand this market.
2018-06-27 20:15
there is no real talent in which they trust. thats the only problem. they just take players who have tier 1 experience, doesnt matter if they are at a low. they dont take risks anymore.
2018-06-27 20:18
#30
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Austria t47ED
lol and when a org takes a new talent they get flamed like hell
2018-06-27 20:24
because most of time they get shit on.
2018-06-27 20:25
#40
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Austria t47ED
their money their rules if u dont like it unfollow everywhere and dont buy merch
2018-06-27 20:30
wut ?
2018-06-27 20:30
#2
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United States joke_cs
what
2018-06-27 20:04
Why are international teams a problem?We can have so much more great teams,compared to only national teams.
2018-06-27 20:05
cs is about communication, you cant communicate if they have to learn a language first. back in the days teams were only made from the same country, because it made sense
2018-06-27 20:08
Why do you think they cant speak English?Most pros can speak English at a basic level,its about getting comfortable using it.It is definetly not ideal but its far from impossible to make work
2018-06-27 20:13
takes too much work to make it work, imagine a mate telling you "1 on b, behind that crate, yeah that one" its about shaking up odds mate.... and higher ups betting on games to steal weak hands money.
2018-06-27 20:15
no one at pro level communicates like that lol. they all have names for such crates and positions. maybe a player made a highlight from there so they call that position by that players name
2018-06-27 20:31
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Brazil m16r_0
its 2018 even people from the last shithole can speak english nowadays.
2018-06-27 20:20
its not the same
2018-06-27 20:24
#35
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Brazil m16r_0
bs , you may need some time to get used to it but after it doesnt make any difference .
2018-06-27 20:25
like we gave kinguin time ? they ended up disbanding, trading players and now they turned into faze, winning every tournament, competing with a team like SK the whole community called out for cheating ? yea seems legit.
2018-06-27 20:30
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Brazil m16r_0
"winning every tournament" xdd yeah and after their prime they sucked while a int line up is "winning every tournament" xd your point is refuted by yourself :D
2018-06-27 20:33
coordinates for The Last Shithole? i wanna move there
2018-06-27 21:09
#59
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Brazil m16r_0
low_quality_baits
2018-06-27 21:10
why toxism?
2018-06-27 21:11
#6
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Ukraine Dert38
you still can play few games haha
2018-06-27 20:05
Ur retarded wot
2018-06-27 20:08
hi sheep
2018-06-27 20:08
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Sweden aer1aL
>LG/SK never had an era, never will because of a retarded guy on their team (you can guess which one) >There is no FaZe era, Astralis might get one.
2018-06-27 20:16
LG/SK had their 2 years, faze is having 1 year (so far), astralis has been trading with SK/LG the past years
2018-06-27 20:18
#22
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Sweden aer1aL
Dude, an era is not calculated by how many years they had on their peak. An era is dominating EVERY SINGLE TOURNAMENT That you attend to like Fnatic 2015.
2018-06-27 20:19
by your logic fnatic had the only era ever? thats so wrong. first off: you couldnt have an era back then, scene was too small, when the smart money came in, thats when they placed their bets, let fnatic have their tournament streak, only that was eye candy for big money to come in, after that top teams were trading eras.
2018-06-27 20:22
#36
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Sweden aer1aL
NiP // 87-0 Fnatic // the best team in the history of CSGO FaZe // trash Astralis // only era contestor rn
2018-06-27 20:27
how is faze trash when they are currently winning every tournament? it only proves my point lol... they TRADE wins
2018-06-27 20:28
#45
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Sweden aer1aL
Winning every tournament? Oh, you mean winning every tournament that Astralis isn't attending.
2018-06-27 20:32
ask yourself why astralis isnt attending...
2018-06-27 20:34
#49
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Sweden aer1aL
Ask yourself why FaZe can't win tournaments vs Astralis...
2018-06-27 20:38
because everytime astralis attends, they are meant to attend, and meant to win it. but its still faze in the finals vs astralis. and if its not faze, its sk
2018-06-27 20:45
#24
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Brazil m16r_0
" FaZe era " rofl
2018-06-27 20:21
faze is having late 2017 to mid 2018, watch them get this full year.
2018-06-27 20:23
#31
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Brazil m16r_0
astralis > FaZe all day .... they arent even close to the dominance of teams with a era like fnatic or sk back in the days....
2018-06-27 20:24
you call sk "back in the days"? dude youre new....
2018-06-27 20:25
#37
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Brazil m16r_0
are u kidding me ? xd it was just a example you could also take NIP .... holy shit . but a nice way to get around a comment with some content . and btw. their era is over for some time now so yeah "back in the days" isnt really wrong
2018-06-27 20:28
"like fnatic or sk back in the days...." your words. but you also proved my point, they been trading eras.
2018-06-27 20:44
#52
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Brazil m16r_0
as i said im not really wrong so this is just a dumb try to make up your point :D sure they do but there will be allways a strong team that is favoured against every other team contending and this team or player will always change after some time like in other sports 2 .this is not a point , do you even know what you are trying 2 say?
2018-06-27 20:47
you dont understand me trying to explain you the market because you are too young. no offence though. if you dont get it, please keep placing your bets so the big guys accumulate your losses. and please dont respond with "i dont bet" because you would be lying.
2018-06-27 20:49
#55
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Brazil m16r_0
i get it but your point is just bullshit :D just take off your tin foil head and accept that csgo is probably the worst cs to predict ever. A reason for that are the strong pistols who can turn games around just to make 1 example. you probably also believe in the illuminati. p.s i dont bet beacause its not predictable :)
2018-06-27 20:52
at least you didnt deny that you dont bet. cs is actually very easy to predict, because "every" player can have a "bad day", people in twitch chat call him "bot" most of the times, thats when you know...
2018-06-27 20:53
#57
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Brazil m16r_0
i have to admit ,now i dont get what youre trying to tell me i also stoped reading at "twitch chat" this could be one of the best baits ever
2018-06-27 20:55
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United States b7a
fnatic, NiP, and arguably Astralis are the only teams in that list who've ever had an era.
2018-06-27 20:17
See you in 2 weeks
2018-06-27 20:19
no1 care why u even posted this
2018-06-27 20:21
please keep placing your bets lol cause they are collecting your losses LuL
2018-06-27 20:24
#26
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Austria t47ED
bye no1 will miss u
2018-06-27 20:22
If you say it’s all about bets and it makes you want to leave. You never had any love for the game itself. I played my first cs game back in 2002. On dial up. And ever since I have played all cs games. Csgo has been where I put in some hours. Currently at around 2400 hours just in csgo. 1.6 and source I didn’t play as much. But that’s only because here was no real mm. Only community servers and such. I don’t think csgo is a good game to bet on. It’s full of twists. Some luck. And a lot of slumps from teams you except a lot more. There is no true way to measure how good someone is. It’s only on paper and average number for results. Most people already left csgo because of the skin betting falling off the table. But the game goes on and it will keep me entertained
2018-06-27 20:30
trust me i had love for the game and especially to watch the pros play it, i have around the same hours as you, but seeing through this market and how much money really flows through it, like imagine those numbers, 25k/month for each player should give you an estimated market cap of the scene in general, its a multi million market, and you think everything is legit? dream on but your dream of the game is dead, this whole pro scene is rigged and bought up, corruption is what makes me leave this market, its not even fun anymore to watch this rigged shit. you already can bet on whos in the finals, but you shouldnt be betting on whos gonna win. because thats the big players game, have fun.
2018-06-27 20:38
csgo is dead, pubg is next thing
2018-06-27 20:48
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