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Italy TheSingerWhoHasNeverSung 
You all suck. Each and every one of you ;) You listen to talentless clowns who have no clue what real music is and what it's all about. Getting auto-tuned and singing without a singing voice with dozens of effects to make it sound smooth and fresh while in fact my cat would sing much better. Their songs barely have any meaning beside 'Oh yeah, I fucked that one, now I fuck this one, oh, oh, I'm rich and cool, you're fool'. Disgrace to music. Any artist with "Lil" in the beginning is already not a musician and never will be. Just a jester for the king. They care about videoclips more than about the song itself. And those clips are shit anyway. Super pooper quality with 12 year-old boy's content. Those pricks popularize this kind of music that doesn't require anything but an ugly face full of tattoos. Nobody cares about art, it's being done for the sake of commercials and PR production to make famous clowns even more famous. They popularize a bad way of treating women, they popularize a bad style of living, they popularize being an idiot that it is meant to be cool today, so many idiots lately. Name me any artist and I will tell you why he's shit and his music is worse than a Nokia recording by me in the 6th grade. There's not a single good song in the last decades so far. Eminem? - Shit. Drake - shit. Rihanna - shit. Anyone, this music's quality is worse than the music of 1930s. No talent at all, no lyrics with a meaning, no melodies, no hard structure in the song with a simple progression. Nothing. It's not music, it's dead. They just sing to the beats and flow, a kind of music that any teenager at home would be able to produce. They don't even have a singing voice that would require hitting high notes, let alone sing falsetto. It is the worst time to be alive, the worst period of time for music. THE MUSIC NEVER WAS WORSE THAN IT IS NOW. Thanks.
2018-07-04 10:02
f0rest | 
Bulgaria squezzi 
Nt Hungary
2018-07-04 10:03
+1 he's tilted hungary
2018-07-04 12:23
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2018-07-10 07:32
Germany AdiZen 
i hate that kind of music i rather enjoy instrumental ^^ and anime osts :D
2018-07-11 18:59
Instrumental music is very divine, soul feeder kind. But anime OST should begone along with your childhood, let it be in your memories, not in your regular life
2018-07-11 19:01
Germany AdiZen you say this should be begone?
2018-07-11 19:02
This one shouldn't. You got me right, the majority of OST would be that Kpop alike pop-rock songs with asian flavour. But when it's instrumentals from talented musicians, it's always a good feat
2018-07-11 19:04
Germany AdiZen 
dude you talk about openings i dont even like openings ... osts are soundtracks that are mostly instrumentals that should bring up feels
2018-07-11 19:05
Yes, I guess I did. Soundtracks are really better kind, enjoy, I approve it
2018-07-11 19:07
Csak kapj egy ház. ???
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Czech Republic Depresso 
2018-07-08 11:44
Dominican Republic hyziug0d 
2018-07-09 10:16
*dab* be a maveric
2018-07-09 10:26
Post-millennials are the death of us all. No future with all those clowns. Growing up on DSL(+) lines and being online all the damn time has truly fried their brain.
2018-07-05 13:08
Dude it's offensive for us :( ( +1 tho)
2018-07-07 12:46
nt italy
2018-07-08 06:31
nt mexicano
2018-07-09 10:18
Why you bully me? :(
2018-11-25 18:22
Lemmy | 
Poland MetalMan 
Agree 100%. Now these losers will come and talk shit.
2018-07-04 10:04
I knew you'd be on my side. They will never see
2018-07-04 10:06
Lemmy | 
Poland MetalMan 
#5 exactly shows how brainwashed they are.
2018-07-04 10:06
There's no salvation for them anymore. We're now the minority. Let's laugh at these sheeps and enjoy real music while it's there
2018-07-04 10:07
Lithuania OnyxLT 
2018-07-04 13:41
2018-07-08 01:46
United States ShawnM 
Sure. There's a lot of horrible music. However, some singers have amazing voices and that's why they are famous. Rappers have bad voices so they mumble into microphones. But people like the main singer in the band Journey have outstanding voices. So music isn't completely bad, but there are a lot of trashcan rappers
2018-07-10 03:21
Even with good voices it won't save the situation we're in now. Technology killed the soul and without soul there is no feeling, no feeling no life. So many lights, effects, everything and no music itself. You exchanged heart full of soul for progress, enjoy now
2018-07-10 03:25
United States ShawnM 
No wonder my playlist only has songs at least 10 years old. (Except for one)
2018-07-10 03:30
It's weak yet, the ultimate music lover and absolute song listener blocks almost everything after early 70s. Everything before that is worthy of dying. You'll see that once you let it in youself
2018-07-10 03:31
and until here i thought this was not a bait ... well, 3/8 then
2018-07-10 04:11
It's not a bait, potato lover
2018-07-10 04:12
Lithuania arres 
What music do you listen? After early 70s rock and metal took off. There were so many great bands in these genres - sex pistols, led zeppelin, metallica, guns'n roses, judas priest, black sabbath, iron maiden to name a few. Don't you think that's worth something? Also what about muse, oasis and projects of its brothers after break up, red hot chilli pepers, pearl jam and eddie vedder solo prjects, smashing pumpkins and other gems that broke through in last couple of decades?
2018-11-28 01:46
Good bands worthy of listening, but it signed the beginning of end.
2018-11-28 01:51
You should try listening to djs like Quintino, Garrix, Hardwell(!), KSHMR, Manse and mb Michael Calfan. They are the real talented musicians,not some random rappers on drugs
2018-07-04 15:15
With all my respect to you as a respected user, which again I must presume, I'm aware of a bigger part of these and standing at the DJ desk is not equal to playing instrument, I'm saying so just to cut it briefly. The explaination in different would take much longer. Thanks for suggestions but I have my own ears to analyse and hear what I'm listening to ;)
2018-07-04 15:18
Canada PwnNewb 
it sounds like you are trying to use words you don't know, or used google translate to write for you...awkward AF writing style that I have to say, most likely comes from super try harding, google translate, **or some other ish
2018-07-05 08:30
If intelligent conversation and the way of communication seems cringe for you then I'm afraid you're kind of a sociopath and despite it being kind of a drag as it is, your username is also a bit cringy
2018-07-05 09:51
Canada PwnNewb 
LOL cringy username... LOLOLOL good 1 mate. LOLOL cringy user names. TheSingerWHo......,.hahaha...dide with a whole damn expression as a name says..... hahahah LOLOLOLOL
2018-07-05 10:22
Haha, funny dudeson. Killed himself in my eyes with one post, not many could do that, haha
2018-07-05 10:47
11yo spotted
2018-07-10 08:45
DJs LUL. Mixing a song then pretending to do something is really a skill At least deadmaus does something there
2018-11-28 06:25
Finland siloquez 
Most of you '00 kids don't know what DJng is. It's more than just pressing play. And before autosync it really took skill to mix songs harmonically together.
2018-11-28 07:47
I've glanced at the shit those dudes from the list produced. OMEGALUL U obviously don't know the meaning of the word talent. People who go to this DJ parties are exactly the kind of people I don't want to meet in real life.
2018-11-28 16:52
Then tell me why you think they are not talented. Most of these DJs usually produce their own songs, write melodies and work on the mixing and mastering processes. While most of the singers, rappers and etc do nothing but sing because their producer teams do most of the work for them.
2018-11-28 17:07
This is some workout background dude. That is why everybody is jumping non stop i the same tempo to this crap. Speakers is only common thing this shit has with music. I can mix, master and produce the sounds of pooping process or cleaning the nose but it does not make it into music.
2018-11-28 17:10
That is an opinion and not a fact. There are lots of EDM subgenres and not all of them are "workout music" genres. For example, progressive house is usually emotional and melodic, tropical house happy and chill, deep house groovy and funky. Just take a listen to some of my favorite tracks and tell me what you think is wrong with them. Btw it still takes a lot of talent and dedication to produce highly energetic tracks that you call workout music.
2018-11-28 17:27
Sorry, but these are soundtracks to listen to while peeing in the WC in the mall. Very bad even at this. And what the fcuk are those meaningless 'feel-good' clips. I don't fucking need this when I listen to music.
2018-11-28 17:42
I agree. The music is god awful. But what do you expect from young kids? Just don’t listen to it. I haven’t listened to the radio in 5 years. Didn’t read the whole thing but Rihanna isn’t shit lmao. I’m curious What artists do you listen to then?
2018-07-08 22:42
Them many and you'll be bored to death but it takes patience and time until your eyes start recognizing relative good music, it's worthy of all times, godlike feeling
2018-07-09 02:04
Israel RockTheCasbah 
Special snowflake
2018-07-04 10:05
If to be intelligent today means to be special, I'm special as hell
2018-07-04 10:06
Israel RockTheCasbah 
Nah, ur pathetic. Who tf even says shit like that...
2018-07-04 10:07
Every sane person with a brain instead of a fiberglass?
2018-07-04 10:07
Israel RockTheCasbah 
U got it all confusted... forr a reason, enjoy baiting these fools you pretentious cuck
2018-07-04 10:09
I've got it straight. Face the truth you little vodka lover. This kind of shit will never be close to real music, worship your lords
2018-07-04 10:09
Israel RockTheCasbah 
Ehat fking lords? 1) u dont even know what im listening to 2) why do you care about what others listen to? No one forces you to listen to that 3) your baiting game is super weak 4) i got it straight, while your ass got bent' 5) i dont like vodka, stop with the stereotypes
2018-07-04 10:13
You're defending this kind of music and expressing disagreement to my cry-out so it speaks for itself. A man who is into music would agree with me instantly
2018-07-04 10:15
Israel RockTheCasbah 
Into music? Whaa? Give me ur top songs, into music guy. Also current music is very good :)
2018-07-04 10:18
No, current music is no good and I will never give you real songs to mock them off. Get lost, pathetic kid. Your soul will forever be empty and you won't ever feel the touch of divinity that comes with real feelings music could bring.
2018-07-04 10:19
Israel RockTheCasbah 
"Get lost, pathetic kid. Your soul will forever be empty and you won't ever feel the touch of divinity that comes with real feelings music could bring". But you dont know what i listen too.. Salty /mu/drone
2018-07-04 10:22
Read the last sentence of your 51st post and now ponder again why would I say so. /closed
2018-07-04 10:22
Israel RockTheCasbah 
Pathetic /mu/drone Current music is good, thats a fact.
2018-07-04 10:23
Give me those facts why it's better compared to old?
2018-07-04 10:40
I did not say that it is better. You cant compare it. I said that current music is good and its a fact.
2018-07-04 10:41
U already compared but okay. which genre specifically?
2018-07-04 10:49
I did not compare anything. I just said that in 2018 there was good music released, from various artists, and different genres.
2018-07-04 10:51
This is bullshit , even recording/production wise music is fucked up. Loudness war cheap producing and shit. it's funny how old music is better than todays recording/audio/production wise
2018-07-04 10:55
Thats not entirely true, while mainstream artists use "cheap" pre recorded industrial sounds, there are people who still record and do live takes. OP is pissed at trap rap taking over the mainstream, there are still many skilled mc's and rappers just like therr is great guitar music but you need to dig deeper to find these gems. Thats how ive find many great musicians, but if you are an /mu/ essentials drone you dismiss everything that critics didnt applaud and labeled as a 9/10. He is clueless, disrespecting a new crop of musicians because his hatred for young trap rappers like lil pump etc. Thats pathetic
2018-07-04 11:02
So you agree that pop music is fucked up nowadays, yes it's like that. compared to old music it was easier to find good music because it was all about success and now it's all about money. i can't call Cardi B or Drake an artist. And digging for good music doesn't make this decade better than for example 70's.
2018-07-04 11:11
Canada Dial_Up 
You probably listen to 70's rock like most "I was born in the wrong generation" kids
2018-07-05 05:12
Believe it or not but I have never, on my entire lifetime, ever said that line, I despise those who do. But I could easily relate to that and no, 70s rock is not the peak of music ecstasy.
2018-07-05 05:14
Canada Dial_Up 
So what is the peak of music ecstasy?
2018-07-05 05:17
Try out #98 (if I remember correctly), if that wasn't enough for you, do comeback for further info.
2018-07-05 05:18
Canada Dial_Up 
You make a wall of text complaining about modern music and yet you don't share your own taste in music, from what I see you are just insecure about the music you like.
2018-07-05 05:24
You sound true, I am indeed. I don't want other people to find out about good music for they don't deserve it. If you praise the current pop music, you will never see the beauty in the real one. Surrender and I may lead you to paradise
2018-07-05 05:41
Canada Dial_Up 
"If you praise the current pop music, you will never see the beauty in the real one. Surrender and I may lead you to paradise" Have you thought about the beauty some people find in pop music? Not all modern music is what you think it is and if you did a little research maybe you would have found some modern songs with a GOOD message.
2018-07-05 13:55
I only found 1 good song within last 20 years and it would be 3 songs if we include last 30 years and quite more if we include 40 years. Music hasn't died yesterday, it's died for ages now. People might find beauty in a pile of shit and who would stop them? I'm talking about music industry, it became a milk sucker company with clowns as their puppets. Nobody talks about art for centuries. What a pity
2018-07-05 15:43
Canada Dial_Up 
"I only found 1 good song within last 20 years" You clearly aren't searching hard enough.
2018-07-05 16:03
Oh believe, I have used to search very good and tense, many would envy, it's just the times that we live in
2018-07-05 16:43
Canada Dial_Up 
"You probably listen to 70's rock like most "I was born in the wrong generation" kids" "Believe it or not but I have never, on my entire lifetime, ever said that line, I despise those who do." Yet you keep insisting that "the times we live in" are shit.
2018-07-05 16:49
Yes, not only shit but actually the worst time to be alive
2018-07-05 16:50
Canada Dial_Up 
Would you say that living in the middle of WWI or WWII would be better than living with great healthcare, advanced technology, education, etc?
2018-07-05 16:55
A lot. Don't even dare guessing that I'm baiting. But the mentality of people was above any advanced technology of today. Man doesn't need much to be happy, a bunch of friends, beautiful girl and kind neighbours around him. Now people got stressed out and isolated, I would get back there within a second and I advise you the same
2018-07-05 16:57
Canada Dial_Up 
Aw fuck yeah, living in 1918 with the plague would take that over extremely good healthcare any day, eh?
2018-07-05 17:00
With a spit on iPhone before leaving and a middle finger up towards this very screen
2018-07-05 17:01
Canada Dial_Up 
You've managed to keep this bait going for over 400 posts, impressive. But don't you think traveling to another era just because of this day's music is a tad silly?
2018-07-05 18:13
If I could I would if I don't I can't. And up to your surprise, I had threads over 1K and none of them, including this one was intended as a 'bait'
2018-07-05 18:37
Canada Dial_Up 
Why would you want to travel to another era just because of the music?
2018-07-05 18:53
What an insecure prick
2018-07-09 10:15
You don't give away your treasure
2018-07-09 10:16
Nice way of saying "I'm insecure about my music taste". As someone who doesn't listen to the kind of crappy music you are talking about, this generation has a lot of great musicians and if you don't know them you are the one to blame. Stop being a condescending insecure kid, yes today there is more shit music, but there's also a lot of good music, you just need to know where to find
2018-07-09 10:19
Almost none
2018-07-09 10:20
Believe me dude, there's plenty, you are one of those dudes that never seem to fit anywhere, always against the mainstream ideas, not because you're right, but because you have a big ego and need a reason to feel superior to others, it's clear as it can be, you're an hipster btw I would advise you to use that intelligence of yours to try to be more understanding and less of an ass
2018-07-09 10:23
I'm actually a mod, not a hipsterman, those have flaws. Honestly, I'm aware only one 1 good song from last 20 years, 3 from 30, and more from 40. I don't claim my opinion to be the only right but I've been knowing and listening to the music since a young age and I grasped the very beginning of it (1890s) to the present time. Sure there are plenty of ones like me but you've got me, so pay attention to this please
2018-07-10 07:36
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.
2018-11-26 15:24
Lemmy | 
Poland MetalMan 
Nice reply gopnik.
2018-07-04 10:06
Israel RockTheCasbah 
Thanks wiktor
2018-07-04 10:06
FalleN | 
Other prozac8 
Correct, he's spot on one of those annoying narcissistic teenagers of today who think they're the shit
2018-07-04 10:13
Israel RockTheCasbah 
This is a classic: If he really is like that, and hes not baiting for attention hes pathetic, well he still is if hes dping it for attention, but you get the point.
2018-07-04 10:15
2018-07-04 11:30
He is right though
2018-07-04 10:16
Israel RockTheCasbah 
2018-07-04 10:18
+1 O mY gOd I wAs BoRn In ThE wRonG gEneRaTiON
2018-07-04 10:23
Israel RockTheCasbah 
These /mu/drones are so annoying..
2018-07-04 10:24
Israel St4m 
Fucking motherfucker your mom suck Expected from shitalian
2018-07-04 10:05
I'm gonna pour some salt on you, salty boy
2018-07-04 10:06
Israel St4m 
when i see italy flag i knew there is some dumb guy staying at the pc all day long no lifer
2018-07-04 10:11
And you're the one who defend this kind of music, tell me whose life is worse
2018-07-04 10:12
Italy Yungxsteffe 
You know he's a baiter, right? You know you're retarded, right? Someone was doing a great job.
2018-07-07 12:52
I'm not even a baiter
2018-07-09 06:31
Name checks out
2018-07-04 10:11
Italy InSuu 
poor baby do u need help from usa
2018-07-05 10:16
Italy InSuu 
btw usa is where all the shit comes from
2018-07-05 10:17
Laz | 
Slovakia TatKo 
nt Jovik
2018-07-04 10:06
Yes, indeed a nice try
2018-07-04 10:08
NiKo | 
France LauraS 
"There's not a single good song in the last decades so far" The diversity of music available is the largest its ever been. No one cares that you're too inept to find music you like.
2018-07-04 10:07
There's no real music to find. Anyone does what they please and there's no soul and vibes in it anymore. And that line is so fucking true
2018-07-04 10:10
NiKo | 
France LauraS 
I guess you're one of the "I was born in the wrong generation" people. You usually grow out of that. Thoughts on Adeles music?
2018-07-04 10:13
I've never dropped that line on my lifetime, never ever. Though I could easily relate to that. I don't blame the time I was born in but I do blame the music industry for being so cheap with their souls, doing anything that would please a rioting crowd with their progressive times and absolute freedom. I only heard 'Hello', if I'm not mistaken, got a fine voice but I don't remember anything else
2018-07-04 10:16
NiKo | 
France LauraS 
You know it's a business right? I agree to some extent that music is becoming more childlike and repetitive, as that is a huge factor in making a song memorable. However to state such ridiculous points, not even referring singularly to popular music but to current music as a whole, just makes you sound like an idiot. I provided you with one musician, go find others that fit in your preferred genre.
2018-07-04 10:25
You know, I most certainly don't really care if whether I be taken as an idiot or a clown but I do know for a fact that actual musicians, who're in his older age now, speak in a choir with me. And their opinions are the only which have weight. And music is an expression of one's feelings and them materialization into our world. And business it became in the last century, pretty much when it collapsed and lost its original meaning and purpose. I don't mind it being called industry, but it should never be a cold business. Music is not art anymore.
2018-07-04 10:31
NiKo | 
France LauraS 
I guess it's just going to be me speaking to a wall as you've already made your mind up. Who in your opinion did music for the love of it?
2018-07-04 10:39
There are plenty names to name. Will you be satisfied if I say that it was half a century ago when this was a thing?
2018-07-04 12:03
NiKo | 
France LauraS 
I can understand that. I guess you're just not the target audience anymore. If you're willing to accept Ice Cubes music, but disregard any current rappers, then you're probably just too old. (Not meaning to offend)
2018-07-04 12:39
Perhaps, I feel nostalgia for the times when I wasn't even born yet. I'm not old but my soul is.
2018-07-04 14:07
Come now, old man. Or I should say "old soul".
2018-07-04 16:45
I'll be right here waiting for you
2018-07-05 04:57
There are a lot of good music if you know where to look.
2018-07-04 10:16
No, there is not anymore. Technology killed it to the bone. No that genuine vibes anymore, music is now just a regular sound, it's not something special as it used to be. No true love in that
2018-07-04 10:17
Nope, plenty of artists who spent decades mastering their instruments play truly with love. There are many people like that such as my boi John Petrucci
2018-07-04 10:29
I highly doubt it, I've known many and not a single one would have saved it
2018-07-04 10:32
World PunyDragon 
I can't tell if this whole thread is bait or not. Very sad either way. Use this website to find good music. It's far from perfect and focuses mostly on rock music, but it has great lists of artists from the past and present. If you search with an open mind you will find high quality music. Music has never been better. Nothing is stopping you from listening to old music, and there are plenty of artists who are looking to push the boundaries. Search with an OPEN MIND and you will find amazing music. There's so much out there to listen to.
2018-07-09 03:04
Music has never been worse. I have to listen to the old ones because that's all whats left. I'm tired of repeating myself but nowadays music in the most doesn't require skill, talent, creative approach. Just for the sake of money and popularity. Lame sold out fafs
2018-07-09 03:09
World PunyDragon 
You're so so wrong it hurts. There is music beyond the top 40 hits. Go seek it out. You're not looking for it because you don't believe it exists. You're ignoring a whole world of musicians who don't work for profit because of your elitism. I'm sorry.
2018-07-09 03:31
Money is less than a quarter of the problem. The concept is killed, soul sold out, no more those sacred vibes for music as something special. With silly gadgets it became somerhing that goes for granted. Technology killed the feelings, once again. You should choose comfort or reality. I
2018-07-09 03:36
World PunyDragon 
NOT EVERY ARTIST THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW IS MAKING ELECTRONIC MUSIC. Hope you change your mind when you grow up, cause you're missing out.
2018-07-09 03:37
I'm not talking about electro. The whole musuc in general, its concept is missing. Don't assume things, better ask
2018-07-09 03:43
didn't read but I agree with you brother
2018-07-04 10:07
That's not quite what I wanted, you better read and disagree rather than blindly agree
2018-07-04 10:08
ok I read a little bit more, I still agree, but about 1930s music, it was actually one of the golden eras of music, so dont say shit about it
2018-07-04 10:18
Yes, I know. I just brought it up for the example because kids today would think that 1930s was complete shit while in fact even those times have a great recording that will never be forgotten. It's just an example for kids to easier understand my point
2018-07-04 10:21
Nifty suck a submissive beta cuck, i commented on his shitty twitter post that he has shitty taste in music and listens dogshits and i told him that to start listening to real music but he replied: I ALREADY LISTEN TO CLASSICAL MUSIC. shittard thought he was cool , tough at the moment but he's a such a BETA CUCK, classical music is better to ears than those mumble rappers
2018-07-04 10:45
Spread the word around. Guess who's back in town! He might be good with AWP but his ears surrendered to the devil
2018-07-04 11:53
hahaha exactly ! peace
2018-07-04 13:42
Dude I don't listen those you mentioned but I am from this generation. Why do I suck?
2018-07-04 10:09
Lemmy | 
Poland MetalMan 
I think you didnt understand it.
2018-07-04 10:10
First of all, I hardly believe that you don't listen to those. Gimme your top 10 of your favorites and I will point you at those that have made an empty shell of you. Secondly, if you really don't and you're above all these sheeps and my congratulations to you
2018-07-04 10:12
1-Queen 2-Scorpions 3-Beatles 4-Rammstein 5-Sting 6-AC/DC 7-Elvis Presley 8-Elton John 9-David Bowie 10-Ice Cube
2018-07-04 10:22
I approve each one of these. You easily passed my suspicious minds. Congratulations, you are truly special in a good way
2018-07-04 10:24
Thanks. But those "sheeps" really like our taste when they start to listen. Just give them a time.
2018-07-04 10:25
They don't care now, they want to go forward in the pace of time, they don't really care about music either, they just want to stay pop
2018-07-04 10:31
Greece hekzy 
Are you retarded? All those 10 are commercial as fuck and you say you are a man who appreciates real art? Get that shit outta here nigga. If you posted some niggas with 10k views that did it for the music itself and nothing else I'd be fien with your statement, but it seems to me like you are the exact same person you are mocking, just of the 80s and 90s.
2018-07-07 09:08
Pop music used to be much better unlike now so there's nothing shameful in loving pop artists who were Really good. Don't compare them to the present fucks. And I only approved them, I didn't offer them myself. I know much more you never heard of
2018-07-09 03:46
Greece hekzy 
Go ahead then, list some you uncultured swine. I'm an artist, you are not, this discussion ends here you inferior piece of subhuman trash. Actually don't bother, as an artist I have respect for all other artists, I'm not a bitter and sorrow kid as yourself. Fucking low IQ tard can only act condescending after getting absolutely decimated in 50 arguments straight.
2018-07-09 09:23
Reported, behave yourself fag. You could only be an artist in the circus but they have a higher standards. Begone from my sight now
2018-07-09 09:46
Greece hekzy 
Ahahaha you are mad because I exposed you? Get destroyed cunt. Learn art and then choose to critique, clueless, pathetic being.
2018-07-09 13:36
Snax | 
Other c.dallas 
Debate from an authority position, typical. You didn’t destroy anyone cause being an artist means nothing, and until you show us some of your art, you’re not a real artist for anyone here, so don’t bring that up.
2018-07-10 06:23
Greece hekzy 
Just look up Alpha Idea Athens Theatre and Odeio School of Arts, I am not even gonna bother. By the way, he is the one arguing from a position of power and acting condescending at the same time. Meanwhile, he hasn't shown any arguments, any artists of his liking, or any correlation of him being in an actual position of power. Lastly, if you read my posts you'll notice I brought up my position of power after I had already destroyed him with PLENTY of arguments whilst the only thing he has ever replied with is "you are not an intellectual, you are uncultured, your music is trash simply because I say so". /close
2018-07-10 08:43
You really are disgraceful. I don't like the OP but the way you reply is even worse by quite a margin. I didn't see when you 'destroyed' him but he surely has a point of what he's talking about. I advise you to visit a neurologist, you can't behave properly when somebody says things you don't agree with. Another nervous breakdown might put you down.
2018-07-11 07:52
Greece hekzy 
Oh yeah, that's because we had a long argument in another reply chain. I forgot about that. It may look like I skipped 10 parts of the argument, but don't worry, we argued.
2018-07-11 10:50
I've read quite a few and all I saw was a ton of insults, accusations (mutual), you both accuse each other even though you don't know for sure. But at least he seemed to be much more intelligent. And there was no destruction really.
2018-07-11 11:35
Greece hekzy 
Unless you find my reply chain with him and answer to that and tell me what I did wrong there, your statement is absolutely retarded and baseless. Fuck off, fake Jovik, you are not going to tell a person with at least 40 more IQ than you that he is not intelligent, especially doing so from an allegedly "objective" position even though you didn't even read the initial argument. If you claim to be objective but doing so half assed you are the real dumbass here.
2018-07-11 11:38
Once again, the very moment somebody disagrees with you, you start flaming. You've really got issues with the nerves. I didn't read every single post but the ones I did were awful from both sides, your side was more dirty and clueless though. And how would you know what my IQ is? Assumptions all around covered with mad flames. Pathetic person honestly. No wonder he's stopped replying to you. I won't do that either.
2018-07-11 11:41
Greece hekzy 
>starts flaming >issues with nerves Just because I use words that are banned in your kindergarten that does not mean I am irritated. Unless you are looking at my face right now and you can be 100% sure I am. In fact I am very satisfied I get to talk down on people who deserve it. >My side was more dirty and clueless You can't even find my side in this 1000 comment clusterfuck, even I can't in my post history. So stop talking about shit you literally didn't even read as if you know them by heart. (1) >Assumptions all around covered with mad flames Not mad, just pleasant for me. >He stopped replying Because he got destroyed and wants to save himself from the further embarrassment. Also, how the fuck do you know that he stopped replying if you can't even find the other reply chain? Are you some sort of medium? (2) (1) and (2) are clear reason of why you are brain dead, proof of your low intellect and possibly an alt account of his considering he is the real jovik and you are a jovik copycat. /close /destroyed
2018-07-11 11:51
You dont seem to realize that 50% of his list, when they came out, were just as hated on as the artists you’re talking about in this thread. Some of these young shitters might grow up and actually make good music. Audio Push for example, used to just be wave riders making basic ass bs music and now that they matured, there shit has actual depth. Don’t count these kids out before they even have a chance to grow. 1985 by J Cole is a recommendation
2018-07-09 03:41
I hope your name stands for legendary pinaist and singer and not some thuggish panty sniffer. I don't care whether those are hated or not, if I ever see a good soul I will praise him regardless of the herds opinion. The content and quality matters, not the words that follow
2018-07-09 03:48
KingColeTeam on SoundCloud my duud. Real art.
2018-07-09 05:43
I'm very disappointed
2018-07-09 06:16
FalleN | 
Other prozac8 
I listen to classical music, I assure you Mozart, Bach and Schumann were far from 'talentless clowns'
2018-07-04 10:09
Who ever mentioned them? Classical music is far aside. I'm talking about pop music
2018-07-04 10:12
lol with the internet its easier than ever to find music you like but still you are too stupid for that and complain on hltv
2018-07-04 10:10
I wouldn't bark if I never tried. Soul of music is not present anymore, they killed it with their technology. Some things should have remained the same, it's dead completely now
2018-07-04 10:13
Greece hekzy 
Art is dead because of people like you.
2018-07-09 09:28
Are you still whining there? Disappear whelp
2018-07-09 09:48
Greece hekzy 
I won't disappear as long as I am destroying you in every single reply chain. I will embarass in front of literally everybody on this thread, and easily. >not an artist >critiques art >90Iq >thinks he is intelligent
2018-07-09 13:38
Yo yo yo, stop doing this. I dont listen gucci gang or other fucked up shit. I listen to real music with instruments. /thread cls
2018-07-04 10:11
Gimme examples? List of ten in the studio
2018-07-04 10:18
Metallica,Billy Talent, RHCP, Couple finnish rock bands, System of a down, These bands ive listened to lately. I switch over period of times to handful of bands.
2018-07-04 10:21
It's acceptable. But you should be aware that each of these bands is a sign that you're halfway to be ruined and dragged into modern music. Move a bit further back and you get it
2018-07-04 10:23
You what. You might want to take your words back.
2018-07-04 10:25
No, I surely won't. Take care
2018-07-04 10:27
So what do you listen?
2018-07-04 10:29
To actual music, now that word should always be there
2018-07-04 10:32
2018-07-04 10:32
I don't share good music with those who doesn't deserve it, pardon, my treasure - my rules
2018-07-04 10:33
Baiting gucci gang listening teenager detected. / close thread
2018-07-04 10:33
I'd rather have my dick chopped off than ever listen to that shit on my own
2018-07-04 10:34
I 100% listen to way better stuff than you, my taste in music is way better than your .
2018-07-04 10:44
Good joke ;) I only wish it was funny but it's not at all
2018-07-04 11:52
lol talks trash what kids listen to these days and is afraid to show what he himself listens to lmao.
2018-11-28 01:23
Not sure if I want it yet.
2018-11-28 01:53
It's not a surprise you can't find good music anymore because if you don't share music, people won't share with you either. Thus you will be stuck with same music for your entire life. Good luck with that.
2018-07-04 10:45
As if that was an issue for me. Good luck to you too, with your wild screams
2018-07-04 11:52
Greece hekzy 
Translatiomn: Your music is just as trash and you are afraid to post it. What a retard.
2018-07-09 09:31
The last thing I'd do is to listen to desperate shit loving rap
2018-07-09 09:49
Greece hekzy 
I don't even like rap, I just despise people like you. Your attitude is art's real enemy. Now go on, be completely useless in your life while I make money out of what you stand against, pathetic trash. >not an artist >critiques art >90Iq >thinks he is intelligent
2018-07-09 13:39
Dude hes a /mu/ essentials drone
2018-07-04 10:45
yo yo yo, billy talent is so fucking sick. I'm glad that there's people listening to them besides me
2018-07-07 04:51
Hell yeah. Also very nice songs to play with guitar.
2018-07-07 10:14
What are your thoughts about death Metal/ Nu-Metal/ Viking Metal?
2018-07-04 10:14
Nu metal is shit and viking metal is a retarded genre name. Melodic Death and Progressive is the way to go.
2018-07-04 10:18
Nu metal is chill, like when you want to relax. Viking metal name sounds stupid, but there are a few great groups, like amon amarth and unleashed. Whats your fav band?
2018-07-04 10:22
My favorite band is Opeth and always will be, 2nd is Ne Obliviscaris and 3rd is Be'lakor. Nu metal isn't my cup of tea, i like more technical stuff.
2018-07-04 10:27
Ouh Opeth, like it alot, awsome band.
2018-07-04 10:41
Yeah, their work is amazing!
2018-07-04 10:43
I don't listen to them but when I do hear it occassionally, I feel disgusted really. So many noises, unindentical screams and high volume while so little sense, beauty of humanity and harmony that I want to kill myself
2018-07-04 10:20
Don't lie, because you clearly did not listen to them. You sound like a 40 year old woman yelling and thinks metal is just screaming.
2018-07-04 10:24
I've listened to quite a few of them, I include metallica in it and it's already beyond limits then you can imagine what would those be
2018-07-04 10:27
Metallica is overrated, they have great songs that changed music history but songwriting is their only talent, and it's between decent-good.
2018-07-04 10:32
Music was already dead at that point so they only made it worse than it was, nothing really to praise them for
2018-07-04 10:33
It's incredible how close minded you are. Please share some music you like, i'm genuinely interested.
2018-07-04 10:36
#98 And your opinion - considering you like demonic screams - has no weight for me sadly.
2018-07-04 10:37
You have understanding problems, because i don't think you know what instrumental music means. There are no vocals, just instruments. What "demonic screams" are you talking about ?
2018-07-04 10:41
I'm talking that you like it at all, just in general. I'm not talking about instrumental music in that context, idiot
2018-07-04 11:00
How do you know i just like or listen to "demonic screams" ? Metal is different than any other genre, it has normal singing, growling, screaming, just humming, epic chorus, opera-like singing etc. the fact you think it's just "demonic screams" is laughable and shows how ignorant you are about this genre. I think everyone knows who is the idiot here. I hate todays popular music too but stop trying to be a special snowflake.
2018-07-04 11:06
I don't try to be special or get any kind of attention. If at least one person would reply to me, this all wouldn't be in vain already. I want to tell the people that I'm with them on this subject, they're not alone in this way of thinking and they should not give up because I support them and there are many smart people out there they're just overshadowed by imbeciles
2018-07-04 12:02
Can't agree with your point of view, for me lyrics are kinda awsome, and the power of songs is just uncanny.
2018-07-04 10:25
You're allowed to disagree but you should praise the power of human abilities, not the technology that speeds it up and drives the volume up to the skies
2018-07-04 10:27
Try instrumental genres then ? I'm listening to instrumental music for the last 2 months or so. Classic music too, occasionally.
2018-07-04 10:34
I like instrumental music too, but it's rarity now as well, I used to get back to archives for good music as always
2018-07-04 10:35
Many metal bands don't speed it up, they are just insanely good.
2018-07-04 10:37
It's way too heavy that I don't hear the music and harmony of instruments, just one single guitar blatantly shouting like a mad jew, should be some obvious limits
2018-07-04 10:38
I guess you heard one death metal song and think all metal is like that.
2018-07-04 10:43
Not quite, I heard quite a number of them and they're all very similar in their concept
2018-07-04 11:51
Well not all metal is full of screams and insane speed. I started listening to metal because of a band called Disturbed, i suggest you listen to a song or two from them, you probably won't like it, but still. btw fuck everybody who thinks Disturbed is not metal
2018-07-04 11:55
I'm not sure but I think one of their songs was in the NFS OST. I liked it back then but now, considering how deep I've got into music philosophy it won't stand a chance
2018-07-04 11:56
Maybe it won't, but still some great lyrics, like their song, the vengeful one, comes to mind.
2018-07-04 15:58
Xeno | 
Netherlands Xenoo 
You should listen to it more so you end up killing yourself. Would be great for this forum.
2018-07-04 10:38
Haha, want some salt Mr. Seaman?
2018-07-09 06:37
Russia parovozik 
2018-07-04 10:18
Oh, really? Surprise surprise
2018-07-04 10:20
I mostly agree but there are some great bands that produce quality technical music, but you won't find them on spotify or similar shit like that.
2018-07-04 10:21
And I won't even try to do so. I have heard a number of different bands and songs, the vibe has been died. We should get back to stone age to start again otherwise music will be just a gadget, not something sacred
2018-07-04 10:25
I fear to imagine who you would be then but I couldn't care less
2018-07-04 12:02
>couldn't care less >replies to my comment nt
2018-07-04 12:04
My reply makes sense for me, it bumps up the thread, it gives you the attention you deserve by leaving a post. But I don't care about YOU certainly and sure as hell your opinion
2018-07-04 12:05
no, if you really just wanted to bump you could that in many other ways, you clearly do care but said you didn't, that's just cognitive dissonance btw music today is better than ever as we have the widest variety of music ever! glad to have been born in the current generation rather than in the 60s 70s etc, those times were crap compared to today
2018-07-04 12:07
What a degenerated type of comment you just posted. The level of ignorance can scrap the clouds but it is common to nowadays teenagers and sad for those who eclected to stay with their feet on the ground.
2018-07-04 17:04
What a degenerated type of comment you just posted.
2018-07-04 17:16
Cope-pasta So original.
2018-07-04 19:11
The level of ignorance can scrap the clouds but it is common to nowadays teenagers and sad for those who eclected to stay with their feet on the ground.
2018-07-04 23:35
Age: 15 Ok
2018-07-05 06:43
Is that your age? Thx for sharing
2018-07-05 11:19
Doesn't work but keep trying.
2018-07-05 12:19
You're the most imbecilic person I've ever come to encounter. I can take your silly bait but even going for it is going to show how stupid in fact you are. Current generation is doomed for sure, and you're kind of unlucky for being born this late, good times have passed you by
2018-07-05 05:05
Yes the 20th century was amazing we had hundreds of millions dying to wars and diseses, no rights for women and blacks and standards of living that are laughably poor, you are an absolute fucking tard who is as ignorant as they come Every generation has idiots like you proving that history does unfortunately repeat itself Current generarion = easily the best ever, if you disagree you are just ignorant
2018-07-05 11:25
Not even close, filth and rats on the floor are ten million times better than fucking animals and zombies walking around. Current time is the worst to be alive in. People with a mindset of neanderthals in suits and ties trying to pretend that they're clever by repeating after each other and following trends and fashion. Easily the worst generation ever, the worst entertainment, the worst kind of art. I can pity you for not seeing such obvious things and I do, oh, I do! Ask your parents if you still have them ;)
2018-07-05 12:01
Edgy teen mindset, if you think everyone is a zombie in society today that hasn't changed in the slightest since the dawn of time, I can pity you for not seeing such obvious things as I do. Living today is a blessing, sad that you fail to see that.
2018-07-05 12:40
Repeat me once again, it was the only attempt of yours to say something in return. I guess you don't read a lot so good for you and why would you, there's a ton of entertainments beside boring reading, who needs knowledge, huh? Get lost and have fun
2018-07-05 13:01
Made no sense, you're the one who should read as your English is awful, there's a reason why everyone calls you a pseudo intellectual.
2018-07-05 13:02
I might make a mistake or two but there's no use getting butthurt and saying that it's awful. And... are you still here? Do me a favor and let me unsee your username for good
2018-07-05 13:05
No, you make mistakes all the time, just your sentence structure alone is painful to read, go look at what Jonty discussed about you below, everyone agrees except you fail to see it, first sign of possible mental illness. Seek help.
2018-07-05 13:11
So how many mistakes did I do in my previous post to you? I'm writing just like anybody else and your blind madness is affecting me, get away please, I'll get you if you decline on proving me wrong
2018-07-05 13:15
Your sentence structure alone is a mistake in every post of yours, you're delusional it seems.
2018-07-05 13:24
I knew you wouldn't tell me, just a far cry from the bottom of society. Stay there, you don't deserve anything better as of now
2018-07-05 15:34
I did tell you, a simple failure to comprehend what was written is your fault, not mine.
2018-07-05 15:35
You tried to talk but you didn't say anything. Just a barking of a lonely dog as always. I also can say, your English is awful and it won't make that true, silly teen
2018-07-05 15:46
you're the only person i've ever seen telling me i have awful english, which is funny because i have already seen many people say that about you you're english is about as bad as jovik's was, it's as if you use google translate sometimes due to how oddly you structure your sentences and select words that don't fit properly (or maybe you're using a thesaurus, as others have also mentioned) i can also say the same to you, you type lots yet say little, and what you do say makes no sense because of your poor grammar
2018-07-05 15:49
"you're english" is so good, buddy guy, if you'd only consider teaching others. Nice two paragraphs of assumption and obvious tongue wag all around and the third one is a pure salt. Wanna some? I can pour it on you, salty boy
2018-07-05 15:53
one typo in a hastily typed sentence means little, point still stands in that of the thousands of people i have conversed with over the years you're the only one to say i have bad english when yours is laughably bad and difficult to understand due to the google translate levels of errors you make, if i had bad english i would've thought it would've shown in high school or uni but i guess you're just better than all my teachers i've ever had combined? everyone is calling you out on your bullshit but you are ignorant to such levels that you can't see it yourself
2018-07-05 15:55
Your English is the same as mine and your bitching is what gets you out of disguise. Firstly you are very young, secondly you haven't developed an actual point of view yet and thirdly your opinion doesn't matter to me and never did. My English is very good and the people around the globe have told me so. But you imply I'd rather listen to a kid on the gaming forum, not bad, not bad
2018-07-05 16:42
no mine is much better than yours and i am a native speaker, im quite young at 20 but more mature than most my age and no your english isnt good, doesnt matter if others say so unless they are professors teaching english or something, btw im done with your nonsense jovik stop fakeflagging and avoiding ur ban
2018-07-05 16:45
Naw main iz better and yurs ees noh gud becoz I say so bla bla. The number doesn't always reflect the actual age, I wouldn't give you more than fifteen. And yes, sad to accept but your English is as good as mine, it's not supposed to be an argument at all and considering how good and beautiful you write in your posts, mine seems a lot better ;) Lyl juvek stahp feykfleggin end ovaidin er bann
2018-07-05 16:48
You're a funny doodeson, that stoopid jurvek
2018-07-05 16:57
hahahahahaha exactly my thoughts. inb4 some hipster makes a thread and claim the only good music is from mozart and the golden age of music was in the 18th century. LMAO
2018-07-04 13:41
I don't try to be famous or interesting, my business is to get the message to the people
2018-07-04 10:35
ScreaM | 
Romania DESEDE 
kys lmao
2018-07-04 10:24
Kys yourself, it's a thread for mature people
2018-07-04 10:36
ScreaM | 
Romania DESEDE 
kYs YoUrsELf,iT's A tHrEad fOr mAtUrE pEoPlE
2018-07-04 10:37
FuCk y0u YoUnG5t3rS Th1s sHiT a1n'T MuSiC M0z4rT's tHe r34L Sh1t 3vEryTh1nG 3Ls3 sUx.
2018-07-04 13:45
Indonesia Astranesia 
haHAA IaM aN olDfAg aNd 1 H4tE rAP Mu5ic AnD 3vEryTh1nG 3Ls3 sUx haHAA
2018-07-10 10:33
Not quite but who are you that I would explain anything to you
2018-07-10 10:38
cringy boy
2018-07-04 10:26
2018-07-04 10:28
Agreed,i thought i was the only one lul
2018-07-04 10:28
Czech Republic potruss 
Thats why I listen to old songs mostly, but what will you tell me about artists like Marilyn Manson, Bullet for my Valentine (their older ablums), Metallica, Rolling stones ....
2018-07-04 10:29
Don't mix shit up. Good won't go together with the bad. Get certain
2018-07-04 12:06
I never said that in my entire lifetime but I can easily relate
2018-07-04 10:36
Did you read your fucking post? W E H A V E A S P E C I A L S N O W F L A K E
2018-07-04 10:39
Yes I did, be aware, I did it for you
2018-07-09 06:39
2018-07-04 10:37
lmfao just watched that a couple of days ago, here's your virtual gold for posting it 🌟
2018-07-04 11:09
France TheArchitect 
instantly thought of this video, and you post it, niiiiice
2018-07-04 14:53
2018-07-04 10:30
2018-07-04 10:33
Germany Benjir_V1 
7/8 pretty great bait, works everytime
2018-07-04 10:34
It's not a bait and let me shout at you if you don't agree with it. A thread for mature people actually
2018-07-04 10:36
Germany Benjir_V1 
Everytime someone makes a thread about subjective topics its either bait or OP is stupid, so let me atleast congratulate you for baiting so many people
2018-07-04 10:46
There are opinions and there are facts. Sometimes you should get your brain working to read into the words to understand that one has a point
2018-07-04 11:57
+infinity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2018-07-04 10:36
Almost agreed you but I figured out it was a cancer bait when I saw Eminem is shit . Old Eminem made good song without effects , autotune besides the chorus , most of his old songs from infinity and slim shady LP don't have videos , Eminem doesnt start with Lil , he doesnt have face tattos and his song are meaningful Edit : Dab on haters , ESKETTITT
2018-07-04 10:42
Eminem is washed up now and that's fact. How people consider that he's top 3 rapper of all time. He just an average rapper with a few good songs, u can actually count on your fingers!
2018-07-04 10:52
Now he is washed up but back in 96 to 2004 he made a lot of good songs. He is for sure in top 3 . his whole albums infinity slim shady lp , marshal matters lp , and some of the encore and the eminem show are meaningful and good
2018-07-04 11:31
Coz tbh ppl dont know shit about rap most of them only know mtv greatest hits and thats it.. eminem is not in top 10
2018-07-10 08:22
2018-08-19 19:45
I accidentally read your last line and I lost any interest in your post instantly. Just go with the peace, go away from here
2018-07-04 14:09
xD sorry man i read someone's post and i saw that you get easily triggered. For real , i think Lil' bitches and kids who made disstracks are stupid
2018-07-04 14:44
It actually rhymes in german, but i think he just found the rightr words to describe "no heart, no melody. What have I done to deserve this? I've always loved it so much but you fucked this music" -Kool Savas on Melodie (2007)
2018-07-04 10:39
Seems like a cool guy, he'd join me for sure
2018-07-04 13:16
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
Talk shit about other genres and don't even voice his own preference to let other talk shit about it too. Very nice. I agree that Lil shits are dumb af. I have never listened to a single song of that dead xxxtentacleon either, so I'm not biased when it comes to this. Guess I just simply dislike you
2018-07-04 10:41
2018-07-04 10:53
I'm not talking about some certain genres, I'm talking about the music in general and it sucks now
2018-07-04 13:16
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
then which age of music do you like?
2018-07-04 13:22
Oh, it was long time ago. We both weren't even born yet
2018-07-04 14:06
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
so? Just tell me
2018-07-04 14:07
I consider this a valuable information and I don't share it with those who don't deserve it, my apologize
2018-07-04 14:08
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
2018-07-04 14:09
Are you the one who has a name hanged upon himself?
2018-07-04 14:10
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
what do you mean?
2018-07-04 14:11
That prokda meme still seems to be going on and I'm guessing you're not the one they're talking about but you pretend
2018-07-04 14:32
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
I don't pretend to be prokda. We are actually friends on Steam, but I guess a newfag like you doesn't know shit.
2018-07-04 14:35
I don't really care who is who, I was just trying to prolong the conversation but I'll be happy either way, go on for fame oldfag
2018-07-04 14:37
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
You are actually worse than vladik69 persona (not his main), you just don't talk about faze
2018-07-04 14:39
I suppose I can consider this a big achievement, woah, I'm blushing *-*
2018-07-04 14:40
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
Guess so, cya Musolini
2018-07-04 14:41
and you are making this assumptions in HLTV when you are a member of that site, what a hypocrite
2018-07-04 10:41
What does HLTV have to do with this at all
2018-07-04 14:10
I laughed xD.
2018-07-05 08:08
There is good rap today. Look at Tyler, The Creator and Kendrick Lamar and maybe also BROCKHAMPTON and Kanye.
2018-07-04 10:44
No, man. Too bad
2018-07-04 14:10
It’s one thing to politely disagree with others’ music tastes, but it’s another to be really condescending and call anybody who disagrees with you a “talentless clown.” You can essentially say whatever you want, but no reasonable person is going to take you seriously.
2018-07-04 16:22
You mistook the whole situation by white a margin, yanks. And though I care about the people listening to that kind of music, I never call them 'talentless clowns', talentless clowns are the artists who represent that certain music and the ones who listen to it, including you, are the uneducated youth who have never heard an actually good song. Simply otherwise you wouldn't listen to that genuine shit
2018-07-05 05:08
Even so, you’re being extremely dismissive and condescending, and your opinions are not a good mindset when talking something that is essentially subjective. I agree with you somewhat in that I also see a lot of dumb and bad artists out there, and some of them are very popular. However, I also believe there are great modern artists if you’re willing to look. To put it simply, you’re opinions aren’t gospel, so stop acting like they are.
2018-07-05 10:48
It's up to you. I don't want to impose on my opinion despite it seemingly looking as though, my business is to share the message and give a support for those who have a similar point of view but feeling oppressed by those who they are surrounded by
2018-07-05 10:49
The only reason why you feel oppressed by others opinion is that you don't accept the idea that tastes are different. Not everyone has to be genius with musical education. You shouldn't shame others for being "primitive" and accept their choice, then you'll be free and happy
2018-07-11 11:40
Not quite so, and you must be very confident in yourself saying 'the only reason', I'm feeling oppressed because I'm the minority of people's groups now. I act civilised, I praise intelligence, I'm principle and honest. Many more to account on and that are vastly forgotten among majority of people. Music reflects its time and has influence on the people, what kind of music you listen to, that kind of person you become. You see the connection now, what music has made out of you
2018-07-11 18:53
Although I agree with him on some part music today is shit especially rap after 2002 no more gpod rap. Eexcluding soongs by ice cube and public enemy, joy badass. Rap basically died in mid 2000. Other genres are also shit rock dead metal dead pop is sheeple music if you want to enjoy good music today you listen to old golds. Give me one good song today that can go toe to toe with ac/dc , ramones, real rap , I always rather listen to classical music that these shit today.
2018-07-10 08:31
kendrick lamar, really? i mean the guy who invites a fan to sing/rap and gets butthurt just cuz she says nigga? a guy who thinks its a black privilege to say that word...
2018-07-04 14:20
yea I did basically put him there because of melon (Anthony Fantano). Personally, I don’t agree with that incident and don’t prefer his music.
2018-07-04 16:17
United States SladesterG 
Dony forget my boy logic and j Cole and g eazy and lil dicky
2018-07-06 16:10
ik u did not just say Lil Dicky is a lyrical rapper
2018-07-08 01:43
United States SladesterG 
I never said that anywhere but he is half and half Mr Ukraine
2018-07-08 04:29
Nice try jovik, if it's talentless than anyone could do it. Singing alone doesn't make you a great musician, so get tha fuck out, everyone has his own taste, every type of music has it's place if you're in the right mood but there are always these oldheads or in your case wanna-be oldheads that talk shit all the time, get tha fuck out and listen to what you like and stop complaining.
2018-07-04 10:50
2018-07-04 13:50
Nais chray zhuvek And I said in my statement, any braindead teenager can produce music like this at his home Naees trooy zhawik
2018-07-04 14:11
Bruh then do it, at home.. come on, just listen people listen to what they want, stop being such an old-head-wanna be you fucking jovik
2018-07-04 14:59
I want a quality music friend
2018-07-07 03:10
Well what you consider quality music isn't quality music for everyone, everyone has his own taste, some don't care about music and just want something to turn up to, someone want lyrics that tell stories with metaphors and all those word play and etc, someone just wants storytelling music without any wordplay and etc, someone wants to wordplay in the lyrics and etc... Someone wants fast music, someone wants slow music, someone wants old, someone wants new, everyone has a music taste bruh nothing is bad nothing is good kinda, it's all about the listener.
2018-07-07 08:44
Way back around, what I do consider quality music is so for everyone, it was made professionally with a creative approach unlike these who produce shit everyday they got together at home, today's music quality is the worst of all
2018-07-09 06:43
again you say the same stuff... plz man
2018-07-09 08:45
I'm just responding to you. To your questions... no middle path. Either friends or enemies!
2018-07-09 08:48
I know I am not gonna insult you like your average HLTVer these days but like it's just hte same stuff, everyone has a different taste, just let them listen to whatever they want, it can be Lil Pump if they want to, some people also casually listen to music which is why this new subgenre of Rap is so popular, just let them do what they want, listen to what you want, you might not consider it quality, they might, like it generally doesn't matter.
2018-07-09 08:50
I would if music was sex. But music is a common thing that has obvious influence on the people, music reflects its time. Low quality production, low to no effort in approaching, no talents, no skills. People pick up the idea and act like their favorite super pooper rappers. This kind of songs popularize you can always get what you want, live for yourself and treat others like shit. Swear and fight if you don't like something. Drink and smoke, do what you want. That's why current music is shit and should never be tolerated, it affects people badly. I want civilised people around who behave like human beings. This music destroyed our culture and traditions and it keeps going. You should hate them and not tolerate, wtf.
2018-07-09 08:57
Ah.. What you said just turns around the whole image, not all rappers are genuinely like that, and most of the people now just listen to music casually, they don't care about any lyrics with any meaning, so even if that rapper is saying all that they won't care. This new wave of mumble rap will go away probably, and there are top tier rappers, and I see in the post you listed Rihanna which I don't know much around since I don't like to listen to pop cause it's just boring for me, Drake who is by many considered boring and again part of pop, and Eminem who hasn't done jack shit since 2010+.. There are those top tier rappers, most of them are underground aka not mainstream and there is someone like Kendrick Lamar or J. Cole, and if you have listened to Kendrick at least once you would bring up like "He talks about killing people, oh no!", it's just the whole image, he even said in an interview that he does to show that it's a bad life to live, same with drugs in his music. And there are the old rappers, look at Tupac, Biggie (and those are just the most common examples)... And it's not those mainstream rappers talking about killing, drugs and idolize it, it's the people who are dumb and listen to it most of the time... Do you think anyone takes this guy seriously and genuinely bumps this rather than 13 year olds or lower ?? Like I understand joking around and just having fun and not even taking it seriously but someone bumping this then I would kill myself too. And then compare that song which I just send you which is shit tbh and then look at this for example: Anyone mature wouldn't like these new mumble rappers that have no lyrics, no storytelling, just catchy beats and catchy flows, but there is always your Kendrick, your Joey Bada$$, J.Cole, and more ofc
2018-07-09 09:20
Rap songs should not be called so, rappers read lyrics, they don't even sing. No chords, not quite the music so I don't really care honestly, it's just like that
2018-07-09 09:44
Well that's just what you listen to, not everything should be singing to be consider a song.
2018-07-09 09:45
It's the definition of a song. Rap is rather entertainment than a musuc genre
2018-07-09 09:52
idk i still consider it a song tbh xD
2018-07-09 09:55
(Honestly) I liked rap before, when I was younger and still able to enjoy some songs
2018-07-09 09:56
Yeah and when I'm responding and saying this and that I am not trying to make you like Rap/Hip-Hop, it's all about respecting, like tbh, I do not like the way older music sounds generally, but I still respect it cause it has to be and it's all opinion based.
2018-07-09 10:04
+1 this kid is annoying af. Anytime some disagrees with him he goes into a fit.
2018-07-08 01:44
I should reply here, so yeah, I kinda agree on the human part
2018-07-09 10:08
Ok, have a great day :)
2018-07-09 10:08
You too, you too!
2018-07-09 10:10
sergej | 
Poland Noxize 
can we call polish trap music??
2018-07-04 11:00
I didn't really pay much attention to polish music really. I guess polish folk, like soviet one, could be good
2018-07-04 14:11
sergej | 
Poland Noxize 
1.5/5 Debatable
2018-07-04 15:07
Israel Kp$ 
This is how cringe you are
2018-07-04 11:07
+1 🌟
2018-07-04 11:10
Haha thats exactly what I thought
2018-07-04 11:56
Just listen to the old "good" music then. LOL kekd
2018-07-04 11:10
Exactly what I do? But music reflects the population and today's shit music has a straight connection to people being just as shitty. I want good people around me, maybe you will start listening to good music too??
2018-07-04 14:12
"Good people around you" you say - I'm afraid that's a fairy tale unfortunately. You are expecting too much from folks even though is an understandable and fair wish. As beautiful it may look at first glance, you'll turn disappointed in the end - this being the usual outcome. However, exceptions exist but the chances for finding them are truly slim.
2018-07-05 07:59
Globally, indeed, but locally that fairy tale could easily come true and I don't really ask for much
2018-07-05 07:52
I've edited my post
2018-07-05 08:00
I do expect a lot, it's true but my intentions are good and can't be dismissed. When you sacrifice your own potentially good outcome and ambitions, you become safe off of any twists of fate and you can't blame nobody but you in case if you fail. So you can see how much it means to me, the whole situation with the current generation and music in general, I sometimes find it hard to explain but there should be no questioning how important that is, not for me alone
2018-07-05 08:04
"People are not able to read inside your soul" A quote that should say much and many to yourself. Also, I have a curiosity unrelated to this topic: - You are the one who asked me if I try to fake my behavior in order to present a good image on HLTV? My apologise for this question.
2018-07-05 08:15
I have asked you a similar question but not exactly this. I thought you were acting with the way you write, the way you reply and how intelligent it sums up altogether. Very similar to Jonty's playground but now that I've come to know your thoughts a little bit better, you may play all day long if you have at least a bit of that intelligent, it will pay off and I dare guessing you've agreed with me on this subject, you're already a stand-out
2018-07-05 08:19
As I remember I've explained my way of writing relating it to the definition of "high standards". It's not like I care much about your opinion especially if it's related to myself in one way or another but I do want to remember the character as it is.
2018-07-05 08:35
I know, I remember. I'm only clarifying
2018-07-05 09:51
At least I have the confirmation that I'm not mistaking you with someone else. I've left a reply in the principal section of this thread so when you have the time throw an eye on it :D.
2018-07-05 10:20
Sure thing, nobody will leave without me noticing ;)
2018-07-05 10:46
lol jovik, im not even joking i actually new that this would be a music thread about this generation and the music taste, too easy to read you brother
2018-07-04 11:10
LyL zhuvek, Ai em nut iven zhoking ai ektually New
2018-07-04 14:42
Sweden plikz 
who cares about lyrics and if its auto tuned or not as long as it sounds good?
2018-07-04 11:14
"Genres:Hip hop, SoundCloud rap, trap" i mean dont make it up like he is a rapper if he s a pop singer lul
2018-07-04 14:22
People who appreciate music and its history do care and I'm of that number You literally described a typical listener of today who doesn't really care what he's listening to as long as others listen to it as well, don't forget to change your gender once it becomes a trend
2018-07-05 07:54
Sweden plikz 
Only reason i listen to music is because it sounds good in my ears? I dont give a fuck about anything else. I am mostly listening to music without lyrics anyways so.
2018-07-05 17:45
>Autotune >Sounds good Lmao
2018-07-06 16:10
Estonia mr_abdul 
''oooooh guys look at me I'm special, give me attention please, also say you care about my opinion cuz im desperate'' also implying every HLTV user listens to rap is ridiculous, any user that has been long enough on this site knows that probably most people here don't listen to rap (according to previous forum posts, I do listen to rap btw) if thats bait then gj, but if you think x was as bad as stalin, man who killed millions, you probably are just another degenerate who's mummy drank a little too much during pregnancy. Have a good day.
2018-07-04 11:16
First line is a joke that's not funny, let's just leave it there. I don't imply that every HLTV user listens to that crap, my message is for those who do. And it's not a bait, how could it be. And yes, Stalin perhaps was even better, one is a national hero and another one is a degenerate-junkie who looked like an authentic clown with a fanbase of underage depressed pricks, so many kids he has spoiled. So yeah, Stalin is much better on his background Your opinion has no weight at all. Have a good time, too, I suppose
2018-07-05 05:16
One of the biggest criminal in the world simply cannot be compared with the weakest of today.
2018-07-05 08:20
No need to exaggerate that much, he may have committed crimes more than he's ever done anything good but that good that he's done overweights the bad that he's done. Soviets have the stopped the world terror under his command and liberated the occupied territories. Not that XXX would have been any close to that but he actually spoils the youth with what he used to do and it still goes on, youth shall be our future and what kind of future it might be with this youth
2018-07-05 08:24
I can understand your point of view, indeed.
2018-07-05 08:38
Slovakia ypsylonnn 
I bet u are one of those who sing in a church
2018-07-04 11:18
No, but I would try that out, your idols could never hold a candle to real singers. Even those who sing in a church
2018-07-05 05:17
nice generalisation, couldnt expect more from your brain
2018-07-04 11:22
The message is for those who can relate to it, not for blindly everyone
2018-07-05 05:45
Eminem=Shit?! U must be kidding m8
2018-07-04 11:55
Israel Kp$ 
Yeah right, even my father (from "the old generation") who is a big fan of Queen and Pink Floyd songs, likes Eminem..
2018-07-04 12:02
*cough* baiting *cough*
2018-07-04 13:53
No, I'm not kidding. Why do you assume that
2018-07-05 05:17
Greece hekzy 
Because his songs are literally the best lyrical material EVER. Find me one song that is more descriptive, melodical and emotional narratively. One song from any generation that does what eminem does with his music. Pro-tip, you can't, because rap was created from poetry in order to ascend music lyrically.
2018-07-07 09:15
His songs don't even have melodies... He just mumbles his rhymes without any chord progression, anyone could write a silly text and read it with drum machine. He's not even close to real music and his lyrics is shit, just rhymes without structure that barely ever make sense. Any real musician is much better, he is not one
2018-07-07 12:42
Greece hekzy 
>mumbles his rhymes You have never heard of Eminem if you truly believe he mumbles, he is clearly audible. You are just a retarded hater. >Chord progression, anyone could write a silly text and read it with drum machine You absolute fucking bellend, you don't even know what that means using it like that, you know fucking nothing about music and you think that you would fool me? An artist? Absolutely imbecilic, trying to throw random musical terms thinking you can look like more of a cultural figure. Absolutely kys. >lyrics is shit First of all, it's ARE*, you absolute fucking pseudo-intellectual, can't even construct a proper fucking sentence. His lyrics are by far the best, he keeps a narrative and serves it melodically, he can tell the story of how he tried to kill himself and make you dance because it's rhythmically and lyrically amazing. There is a reason the highest of musical academics awarded with him so many Grammies. Rap has derived from poetry and so it is natural for it to be superior lyrically against any other genre, but of course you wouldn't know that because you are an uneducated, ill-informed piece of trash. All in all, you need to stop acting like a pseudocultural person, you know shit of art, you have never tried theatre, you have never tried an instrument, you have never tried acting, dancing, singing, painting, musical theatre, poetry, literature. You are an absolute piece of uncultured swine talking shit on the internet about things you are definitely not knowledgeable of. So shut your whore mouth and keep living like the trash you are. Thanks for exposing yourself with your retarded opinion and outlook on art. I'd suggest you delete your acount.
2018-07-07 14:05
Lyrics as a whole thing, is shit. Truly is. Didn't read on further. I heard a number of his songs. He's no match for any actual musicians or let alone singer. And every term I used applies to him, he might mumble or read but he doesn't sing, rappers are not singers and his music* that was made on PC is utter bullshit, he's also a thief. Just disgrace to music like his braindead fans who obviously never heard a good song
2018-07-07 16:34
Greece hekzy 
Read further because I already destroyed you in the things I mentioned, you piece of filth. Don't make me embarass and expose you any further you pseudocultural piece of trash, if you don't know anything about art and you never will. You are a low IQ, uncultured swine and I proved it in my post which you willingly decided not to read to save your deluded brain from the embarassment. Go to sleep trashman.
2018-07-07 16:53
those english skills are too damn high! props
2018-07-07 18:35
Greece hekzy 
I usually speak normally without an excessive vocabulary but this time I did it on purpose just to spite this pretentious asshole.
2018-07-07 18:54
Let's wait for his answer. I don't know why he did not read further but he ain't that bad guy. little bit biased
2018-07-07 19:12
Greece hekzy 
He read it, he just can't argue against it so he resorts to acting condenscending which only ruins his standpoint further. Pathetic tactic.
2018-07-07 19:26
So much talking and so few on the matter. I've read further there was only flows of madness and pitiful assumptions. You're not the one to talk about art, music is art, any kind and type of, rap is not music. It's commercialized industry that releases new artists everyday because it doesn't require any talents or skill. No singing voice needed. If rhyming about money and bitches without rhythm section and chord progression is art then people are gods. It's always been shit and always will be. Intelligent people laugh at those apes!
2018-07-08 06:23
Greece hekzy 
"So much talking and so few on the matter. I've read further there was only flows of madness and pitiful assumptions" Thanks for acting condscending again, but I already stated that this is a pathetic as you make it more obious that you are incapable of battling against my impeccable arguments. Obviously it's easier to ignore the very arguments that annihilated you and then act like a smartass for doing so. But it is also easier for me to further expose you. "You're not the one to talk about art" Actually yes I am, as of this summer, at only age 19, I am making a living out of art. What have you done? The only thing that you have accomplished related to art is acting like a douchebag believing that you are the only privileged person to have ever listened to 50s, 60s, 70s bands. Fucking pseduocultural douchebag, the fact that you act condescendingly towards anybody in this thread is a shame considering your opinion is an absolute disgrace to art and what art stands for, soemthing that you are never going to experience even knowing, let alone working with. "Rhyming about money and bitches" It is clear to me that you are generalizing the entire Rap genre to the latest pop trap artists. That is simply because you have never had proper research or knowledge on the subject. I suggest you listen to people like JCole, Joyner Lucas, Eminem, people who dare to approach music in a more Brechtian manner and rap about real issues, with real messages, real symbolisms. Unlike your favourite artists with their meloromantic blabber of songs that make me wanna puke because they are literally for low IQ monkeys such as yourself. Lastly, listening to classical music does not make you special, I'm going to be as clear as possible in this point: Literally EVERYBODY listens to classical music. There you go: 1) Rap is not only Lil Pump and Lil Uzi. 2) It's derived from poetry, it has the greatest lyrical value out of any genre. 3) You listen to 1900s bands, aka meloromantic mainstream trash, unable and incapable of searching for your music, clearsigns of you being an uncultured swine, an absolute bellend who is crying over subject he is clueless of. 4) Classical music is the most listened to genre, so you are not special, you are just like all the people you attacked in your initial post. 5) Suck my dick, I decimated you again, and with even more ease and more impact.
2018-07-08 09:30
Much butthurt as always, so easy to trigger those who're insecure and aware of their favorite music quality. Shit. There was no arguments you ever gave me. A lot of salt, insults and assumptions. Straight false statements. Just like children always tend to do. Pity you a big time, poor creature
2018-07-09 06:49
Greece hekzy 
I'm not butthurt, you literally gave me a segue to destroy you and uplift my moral and confidence by utterly showcasing my superiority and dominance. There is no quality between genres od music. If you were in any way knowledgeable about music (etc if you ever practiced it) you would know that, but you are literally a trash kid who is absolutely clueless, and I proved that. Stop acting condescending towards me, at this point it is completely illegal for you to do so, after so many arguments that you lost which you keep dismissing on purpose because you can't defend yourself. You should be begging for me not to go any further, I have utterly humiliated you. You are nothing, a piece of trash with no correlation to music. This entire conversation has been: Hekzy: *destroys you with cohesive arguing* Singer: Yeah but you are mad and no arguments hurrdurr im retarded Here are some fun little questions to finish this. Are you associated with art in a professional level? Which are your favourite artists? If the first one is "No" don't even bother answering the second and just delete this thread. /destroyed /close
2018-07-09 09:18
You aint proved nothing but that you got mad by me saying Eminem is shit, in general he is. You handed no arguments at all, assumptions and insults. So should I say you won to save your phycho state or you don't mind go autistic? A long text and no sense... these kids nowadays with their shit music...
2018-07-09 09:41
Greece hekzy 
I've proved that you are a clueless piece of trash. Eminem is better than any artist you can name, and I don't even like him that much, I'm just arguing against you for the sake of exposing your retarded ass, which I did successfully and with ease, proving you have no correlation with art and that you are too scared to post any of your favourite artists resulting in your utmost defeat. I handed every argument and you repeating that I didn't is the only argument that you have for you, which is retarded and pathetic, just like your person and life. You are a trash human being that is nothing to me, I completely annihilated you in this argument. Either answer my 2 questions or delete your account you uncultured swine. /close
2018-07-09 13:36
You destroyed him, congrats.
2018-07-21 08:26
You're just stuck up in your ass, calm your tits. Did u ever heard "To each his own"? Eery generation always revolted to old things and came with new things.. Back in the days rocknroll was considered dirty but it was different so majority of youth liked it. Same principle today, I don't like many pop things either but that's the beauty of having a choice. I can listen from classical to rock, hip hop or electro coz I like variety and I know there's a lot of artists who can do beautiful music of any genre, you just have to dig and not watch some pop 10 radio songs.
2018-07-04 11:56
I heard of 'To each his own' but I also heard of the quality and I read the history. It went straightly downhill with affection on the people that became literally animals now. It has obvious connection
2018-07-05 05:46
Its true. Thats why I only listen to classic trance and various types of metal
2018-07-04 11:57
I can't believe it, no way.
2018-07-04 12:00
Estonia Mrkruvi 
100% agree
2018-07-04 12:00
We'll get through and someday real music will be heard in the houses of our friends and people will get better along with it
2018-07-05 05:46
Estonia Mrkruvi 
I hope so
2018-07-05 15:34
Agreed, but I'd also expand this to other areas of life.
2018-07-04 12:03
This time thread is exclussively about pop music and the music in general. I could have conversations about many topics in this life and I have a saying in those
2018-07-05 05:48
There was always "bad" music. Just because you only listen to the good stuff that came out of the older times doesn't mean there wasn't anything bad. Surely would be more wise if you talked about other wrongs with the current society, maybe addiction to social media (something that wasn't in other generations). Pretty sure my kids, if I'm fortunate enough to have any, will find plenty of albums that are at least good from my generation.
2018-07-04 12:04
France mintzz 
Exactly, the simplistic music is just forgotten over time and people think only good music came from back then
2018-07-04 12:06
Not quite, there was a 'time' when people didn't have absolute freedom and everyone had to compose music for everyone, from people to people with good intentions. So bad music wasn't even existent for a fact. Each song was alright
2018-07-05 06:03
France mintzz 
Music is a reflection of society, not the other way around. Making music and sharing is really accessible which makes it both good and bad, like anything. In a matter of taste, for some this is "music" to others it is not. You're also generalising and jumping to conclusions real quick, there are a lot of songs with meaningful lyrics with auto tune or not. I'm open to every kind, it is pretentious to say it's not music. Surely there is a difference between crap and decent, good and legendary but there are the bases of musoc even in those songs. Mainstream music has never been the deepest, lyrics may have sounded somewhat more peaceful, they were no geniuses either. Mainstream applies to the masses, something simple that sounds good in most cases. It doesn't need to be complicated. I listen to that sort of music when I don't want to focus on the music, when I'm concentrated on something else. No matter what you'd find a lot of things in my playlists and believe me there are a lot, A LOT of great songs. You just don't know them because they have 3k to 100k views for example which isn't much.
2018-07-04 12:05
My songs have from 50 to 10k views and I'm quiet. Views don't make sense at all. The quality does and current generation doesn't care about it so why would I care about them
2018-07-05 06:04
Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
sad but true
2018-07-04 12:09
what do u listen to
2018-07-04 12:14
To my favorite music
2018-07-05 08:26
Highest effort bait I’ve seen in a while
2018-07-04 12:17
Sad to dismiss but it's not a bait
2018-07-05 08:26
+1 agreed
2018-07-04 12:21
nt jovik, i listen to black metal when i'm sad and happy hardcore when i'm high, but nt jovik, nt
2018-07-04 12:21
Noize trey zhorvek, neys triy georgik
2018-07-05 12:02
What if I don't like every kind of musics you mentioned? I never care about the lyrics 'cause it makes no sense for me, this is why I listen electronic music (I know you don't like this but I want to give a try). For me, an excellent music must give me the true energy, unlike the current trendings with the same sounds repeating.
2018-07-04 12:26
Lyrics is more than a quarter of good quality composition. It makes up almost the half of a good song. It tells a story, it makes it interesting and lyrics depend whether the song be folk, psycho, pop, death or something else. Lyrics can differ from complex and beautiful to easy and simple and it adds so much more to the song
2018-07-05 12:03
Jesus this guy is actually the most beta fucking male on this site. He probably listens to Operas on Sundays and sad love songs.
2018-07-04 12:28
JeWZus dis gai eez ektuaLly de maust bita fookeng meyl awn zis sait I cry I cry because he's said the things I can't understand and I should reply something just to show that I don't agree, I cry, I cry, oh what to say, I will say he's just an idiot, oh I cry
2018-07-05 12:05
???? lol tldr?
2018-07-05 20:33
Are you still crying there wiping the ass after the big hurt?
2018-07-09 06:51
stfu tard, best generation
2018-07-04 12:29
The worst one actually
2018-07-05 12:13
United States SladesterG 
Well your generation left our world in such a shitty place and so many problems that I can't even count so I would be shit talking our generation because we are your future and your only chance for a better world and at the rate your dumbass generation is going we are your only chance for survival #MAGA #TRUMP2020
2018-07-06 16:15
I don't understand but Trump is a ranter
2018-07-06 16:18
United States SladesterG 
You don't understand because this entire thread is a testament to how low your iq is #5iqguy
2018-07-06 16:23
2018-07-06 16:25
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Talk about 00s artists being shit, but don't call Eminem shit for christ sake. I am nearly 19 and I really enjoy music from the 60s-80s more than I enjoy music nowadays, honestly speaking, and I'd rather have Sinatra alive for instance than any of the bullshit that is around after my birth, however, you cannot include Eminem in the same group as someone like Rihanna as you just did. Eminem is NOT a talentless artist. He's one hell of a songwriter, his video clips do not have explicit scenes and aren't based around money, drugs and nudity whatsoever and the dude has developed an insane flexibility on his vocal chords which is key for his genre. It's not like it's a coincidence that most of the Eminem fans (again, I say most, if you're an exception, don't take this too harshly) do not go with the likes of Rihanna, Beyonce, Gaga and surroundings. Furthermore, Eminem has knowledge that Drake and derivatives do not come close to, reason why when both of them, for example, wrote a song about failure in love, one spat shit, one spat poetry with points to prove. And moving a bit from this specific topic and to disagree with you on a general note, music is in constant evolution, just like each generation develops a new taste. You cannot judge and say that nowadays music got worse, but you can say that nowadays music is far from satisfying you. Musically, songs from decades ago were "richer" in terms of melody, vocal ability, instrumentals, but todays music has it's qualities, you just don't enjoy it but refuse to accept it.
2018-07-04 12:48
If you compare Eminem to 60-80s music as you mentioned yourself, he wouldn't be worthy of shit but he's kind of good for his time. Current time is godawful
2018-07-05 12:14
i listen oxxxymiron who is most talanted guy on this planet so stfu
2018-07-04 12:44
Not even close, he's not even good for russians
2018-07-05 12:14
0/8 trash guy without brain
2018-07-05 19:23
flusha | 
Germany felo 
Noone cares
2018-07-04 13:17
Your comment is #197 and it's far from the last one, so I guess many people do but I don't care about you for sure
2018-07-05 12:15
flusha | 
Germany felo 
They dont care about your worthless opinion about this generation, they want to let their own thoughts on the topic out. Trust me, you're caring more than anyone else if you take the time to respond to every single comment. This generation isnt fucked, but your brain is. btw: music isnt only about lyrical bullshit, its about a the feeling you get while listening to it, and this feeling is different for every person on this earth, so your whole thread is invalid because you cannot project your opinions onto other. kys
2018-07-05 15:18
And the lyrical aspect isn't the only issue with the current 'music'. I'm talking about the music industry, not everyone else's preference. You might like a pile of shit and so what. Music as it was originally invented has got nothing to do with the present... aforementioned pile of shit. Kys kys
2018-07-05 15:45
Listen to pop music from any generation and its all shit
2018-07-04 13:19
No, I'm talking about music in general and music in general used to be good once upon a time. There still was underground movements and it still was amazing, there literally was not a single bad song and pop was pop worthy of listening. You can't imagine this now
2018-07-05 12:16
Pop music was shit in the 70s 80s 90s etc. Most of the good music from those eras where either massive bands, which there are lots of today which are good, or indie music. Look at joy division for example; they had zero songs in top 10 uk charts and yet now they have a cult following.
2018-07-05 18:34
I'm not talking about either of those decades, music declined before that
2018-07-05 18:39
So youre saying music was good im the 60s?
2018-07-06 02:38
Yes I am
2018-07-06 12:02
So basically you don't like electronic music
2018-07-06 12:35
I don't consider that as music, it should be humanly made and require a whole lot
2018-07-06 12:37
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Doesn't matter whether you consider it or not, Electronic Music IS music and that is a fact. It doesn't "have" to be human-made either, music is superficial and can be made by anything. Surely your arrogance isn't going to deny "fact" is it? How low will you stoop with dictatorship?
2018-07-06 13:03
Sticks and stones is music too, but will you compare it to Pink Floyd? I'm talking about music industry and history of music and art in general. Music evolved in the opposite direction and it has an obvious influence on the people which is why intelligence and good manners is the least popular today, behaving like an animal though, is. Do you need more tips or you can get there yourself now?
2018-07-06 13:10
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I think everyone is allowed to like the music they like without you claiming superiority over it. Actually denying fact to satisfy your own arrogance is another shining example of how convoluted you are when it comes to music. You assume so much, but know so little. Ridiculous.
2018-07-06 13:14
I didn't deny the main fact of the topic, I only added explaination that you lacked
2018-07-06 13:47
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
You're denying fact now. You don't have to "like" or "see" music for what it is, but claiming it superior to you and you alone is affront to how one is not supposed to act. That is called a "god-complex", as is the dictatorship you enjoy thriving in. Electronic Music is music whether you like it or not. Rap is music whether you like it or not. People will like other music whether you like it or not. Stop with the god-complex and learn some manners. Is that hard for you to do? Without excuses this time?
2018-07-06 13:51
Where did I deny that Electro music is not music? It is but with a huge step down, commercialized and has nothing professionally related to it. Rap has music but rap doesn't have song. Song implies singing, rappers read/mumble it can't be a song but it contains musuc, low quality electro but music. I think you skipped my reply and straightly began writing your own. Reread for I left reasons there why it is so bad
2018-07-06 14:31
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"It is but with a huge step down, commercialized and has nothing professionally related to it. Rap has music but rap doesn't have song. Song implies singing, rappers read/mumble it can't be a song but it contains musuc, low quality electro but music." Entirely your own opinion, but a constructive criticism to be had. "I think you skipped my reply and straightly began writing your own. Reread for I left reasons there why it is so bad" No. Unlike yourself, I read before replying. You have done nothing but berate everyone in the thread of their own preferred music choice, yet you post none of your own. Avoiding the issue like a ballet dancer with one leg.
2018-07-06 14:34
You didn't reply anything on the matter, I gave you obvious reasons why today's music is so bad and you ignored that part. Hard to defend what really sucks, isn't it. You prioritize electro so your opinion wouldn't be worthy much either way so don't sweat it out
2018-07-06 14:41
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"I gave you obvious reasons why today's music is so bad and you ignored that part." No you didn't. You made excuses as to why "your taste is better", but music isn't a required taste, it's superficial and intangible. It epitomises choice as people will think a song sounds good that others do not. "Hard to defend what really sucks, isn't it. You prioritize electro so your opinion wouldn't be worthy much either way so don't sweat it out" Don't you dare try and twist my words, comparing me to yourself. My music choice is very diverse, I just prefer electronic music overall as my favourite genre of music. Stop treating music like a gospel therapy lesson. Post your own music and let others rate it as you do to them.
2018-07-06 14:44
I did that for that little number of people who had tolerance towards my point of view that isn't controversial or anything. You can't dismiss my reasons in the slightest, if you decline on agreeing that the things I wrote in my explainful post don't make sense and can't be taken as efficient evidence of affection by the subject then you have confirmed a loss. Do you want to see what my favorite songs are?
2018-07-06 14:52
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"I did that for that little number of people who had tolerance towards my point of view that isn't controversial or anything." You baited users into providing you with their preferred choice of music and you've done nothing but rate them and shut them down. There is nothing wrong with providing criticism, but claiming yourself to be a music superiority when no-one of the kind exists is the reason I am replying. "You can't dismiss my reasons in the slightest, if you decline on agreeing that the things I wrote in my explainful post don't make sense and can't be taken as efficient evidence of affection by the subject then you have confirmed a loss. Do you want to see what my favorite songs are?" You haven't posted a single song you enjoy. You have avoided the issue and I don't think you know anything about music at all. If you do provide music, I will respect your choice. Something you need to do for others.
2018-07-06 14:54
Nice, at least you didn't take that part when I made sense. Feels good. I will take any kind of rating you may give and critics towards but first I should take a loot at you. Let me see your top five please. I'll be honest and wealthy with explaination, we are still friends.
2018-07-06 15:06
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
You're doing it again. I sent you my entire playlist of electronic music, I do not have a "top 5", as I love all songs equally. Start posting your own songs. "we are still friends." I will treat you as an equal and refer to you as a friend because I see every user as such, but I dislike your treatment of others by use of dictatorship.
2018-07-06 15:33
I understand. I hope you won't mind if I'll share with you a song I used to share before to avoid casualties. Frankie Avalon - Swingin' on a Rainbow Enjoy!
2018-07-06 15:58
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I like this track, as I'm sure many others do. It's extremely old in comparison to today's music, but doesn't it feel better to be open? Accept the hatred you've amassed as fuel and change your ways - never too late.
2018-07-06 15:59
I'll ponder of it in an off-time
2018-07-06 16:01
I can relate to you a little bit but what do you listen to then?
2018-07-04 13:20
To my favorite music
2018-07-05 12:16
And that is?
2018-07-05 12:17
Which can be described as such by those who have dedicated their lives to it It's in a long run
2018-07-05 12:20
Just give me an artist
2018-07-05 12:24
Gimme a top of your favorite songs, top five, if I will approve it then I will give you a couple back
2018-07-05 12:26
1. Linkin Park - Lost In The Echo 2. Linkin Park - Good Goodbye 3. NF - Outro 4. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Can't Hold Us 5. NF - How Could You Leave Us
2018-07-05 12:28
Not quite what I would recommend for a young listener. I'm very thankful that you shared it with me but I can't approve it, I'm sorry. Let's just part ways with peace
2018-07-05 12:29
Well fuck you then.
2018-07-05 12:29
Thanks for providing me more info, now I'm sure you don't deserve it
2018-07-05 12:33
I don't understand, you critize music that he is listenning but you never give an exemple of what you are listenning, what is a good music for you ? I understand that today most of the music are pure commercial but not all of them some actually are good maybe you don't like but that is your choice that doesn't change that some of them are meaningful. It seem that you are mixing up taste and sense of the music, you can hate a music but that doesn't mean the music is meaningless.
2018-07-05 12:57
I give my songs too if a requestor gets approved by me. If you're interested, you might give me a top five of your favorite songs and I will try to let you pass
2018-07-05 13:07
#333 theirs some music, I put two links of songs but generaly I listen to msuic without lyrics. - - - -Suite from "The Hours" - Movement I from Philip Glass
2018-07-05 13:16
Very interesting
2018-07-07 03:13
? So what are the songs you are listening to ?
2018-07-09 20:14
Old jazz, blues and rock, you won't like it
2018-07-10 03:09
How do you call Eminem's lyrics meaningless?
2018-07-04 13:21
He used to have a better lyrics among the other artists at the time but still no match to world class lyrics, so, easily
2018-07-07 03:13
Yeah that is true.
2018-07-07 11:54
Newfag btw
2018-07-04 13:22
2018-07-04 13:36
Brazil MarieLaMary 
You are talking shit on an CS:GO forum. You're more pathetic than most here lul
2018-07-04 13:38
And you are replying to something that you've called "shit" and "pathetic". *thinking*
2018-07-05 07:41
It's the only forum I could be found at and such topics is no rare here. Read and think for yourself
2018-07-05 12:20
Poland big_boy_69 
2018-07-04 13:51
Belarus Dat_Boi 
Just like you in your life now and forever you worthless piece of garbage. Praise the kek.
2018-07-04 13:55
United Kingdom 1942Flow 
how can you call people for listening to 'bad music' when music is subjective you autist. When all the rock bands came out in 70s they were all hated and called the music trash, now they are glorified
2018-07-04 14:11
Music is subjective? I've lived to this day to read such nonsense sustained with so much surety.
2018-07-05 07:40
United Kingdom 1942Flow 
most music is you autist
2018-07-05 10:39
"how can you call people for listening to 'bad music' when music is subjective you autist" No "most" in here and even if it was, this proposition doesn't have any positive value. Keep appealing to ignorance, it defines the way you're approaching a situation in which the element of truth is not at your side.
2018-07-05 12:15
I'd say there are surely many opinions but there are also the facts for it. Loving the modern pop music and the music in general nowadays exclussively puts you in a row of those who I can call
2018-07-05 12:23
yes agree
2018-07-04 14:13
le wrong generation xDxD everything from today = bed 90's = gud only kids before 2000 (born in 1999) will understand rock gud new generation bed will destroy world
2018-07-04 14:37
Not at all, you've got it wrong but I didn't expect many to understand
2018-07-05 12:23
No problem, my dude, I know that you were born in the wrong gen and this gen will literally destroy the universe
2018-07-05 18:35
Wrong again and there even in that nonsense is a lot of truth
2018-07-05 19:15
See, just like I said. Everything created in this generation is disproved by you, thus being shit and condemning the world. Fuck this generation, absolutely nothing is good about it and literally everything before this gen was perfect.
2018-07-05 21:39
Now, unjerking, why don't you stop being a retardard and stop listening to pop music that you dislike so much? Actually, forget about it, I doubt that Italians will have intelligence enough to understand this.
2018-07-05 21:42
Your exaggeration aside and silly attempts to insult, you might be a good one if you can direct your flow onto the right course
2018-07-06 11:53
France Gneronimot 
EDIT : today is the best time to listen to music, watch movies or play video games. Prove me wrong
2018-07-04 14:43
Today is actually the best time to listen to muisc, watch movies or play video games. But good times are not defined by the access to those things. They don't even make you happy, they only bring joy for a plastic soul. Those things are not needed for the really good times so, current time is the worst to be alive because people have gotten worse in exchange for the better technology.
2018-07-05 12:25
I agree almost to 100% but u are talking about main stream music, which was always focused on money more than art. popular music is, was and will always be music with little to no meaning or depth. thats a fact. but that does not mean that we dont have good production and good artists right now. and not all people of the current gen listen to this bs music only.
2018-07-04 15:23
You're not right in the middle. Pop music used to be of a much better quality, by both the meaning and sounding. You simply can't compare to the current scene, two different worlds
2018-07-05 13:12
I agree, pop music from lets say the 80s was not as shitty as the current pop music. in fact, it had much more artistic integrity! but there is one thing thats also true: my grand parents say the music of their gen is good and the music of my parents' gen sucks balls. my parents say the music of their gen is good and the music I listen to sucks balls.... sounds familiar? do you recognize a pattern? :) but in general you are right with your observation.
2018-07-05 13:42
You know, without further explaination I must say your grandparents have a point and I would agree with them. Even your parents' music might suck balls, let alone yours ;) It very quickly went downhill but we should quit it in a positive note!
2018-07-05 15:37
good idea :)
2018-07-05 15:39
Nice, I'm glad we agreed upon this
2018-08-07 16:20
me too m8!
2018-08-07 16:24
The way you attempt to forcefully emphasize your views and the idiocy of your claims is so reminiscent of comments made by jovik once when i was having a debate with him on this same topic - makes me wonder if you're the same person. "There's not a single good song in the last decades so far." - if you cant even realize how idiotic this statement is then i truly do sympathize for you. From seeing some of your replies to the other comments in this thread it seems that it would be impossible to have a debate over such a topic with someone who exerts such an arrogant, stubborn and pretentious nature.
2018-07-04 15:45
ofc hes the same person, check my hiphop thread he didnt even bother telling me he wasn't jovik
2018-07-05 10:06
So he is - couldn't confirm it for myself initially since i hadn't personally seen much of the comments posted from this particular account, thanks.
2018-07-05 10:14
My statement might be risky, cocky, anything but not idiotic as long as it makes sense and I could stop caring by that point but I don't mind providing you a chance to cleanse yourself off the filth that seemingly covered you while writing all that. I could have a good conversation if my dear collocutor is able to keep up
2018-07-05 13:13
I dont think you can keep up with me unfortunately. If you are unable realise that it is impossible to have listened to every song created within the last decade, whilst also using your poor generalisations and stereotypes of mainstream hip-hop, rap and pop genres to reach your ill conclusion that there has not been a "single good song in the last decades", then i suggest it is time to cleanse your disgusting mind full of misbeliefs. It amuses and saddens me at the same time that you feel so self-righteous within an online community (which alone is depressing) that for the most part does not want you - then again, there are probably only a few deranged minorties within society that would even want to accept someone as misguided as you to be apart of their delusional communities. Goodbye and good riddance.
2018-07-05 13:49
Nice defense and so little on the matter you initally barked on. You're the one who hits the road with saying "I don't think you can keep up with me" from the distance as you're moving further away. That's pitiful. There is no need to listen to each and every song if the pop scene has become this shit and it reflects the whole music situation at the time then I can dare guessing what underground state is. I've listened to quite a number of songs and there was no decent song in decades. And if even there was, one per one is so few that I can't count it in. As always, an ocean of text, talking and talking a lot but not saying anything. Goodbye and don't bother me no more
2018-07-05 15:41
New Zealand Eauor 
Yes, the mainstream, popular music is utter trash. But calling this entire generation of music trash is a very naive and one dimensional way to look at things. You can find nice music, it’s bein made every day, you just have to look beyond the top 50 charts. I enjoy plenty of great music, how about you immerse yourself in stuff outside of the mainstream crap.
2018-07-05 05:02
I've lost faith and hope is my only carriage. I don't give a lot of damns about charts, I might scroll through compilations, any kind of songs of today and it will still be shit, like, for sure
2018-07-07 03:15
JW | 
Sweden bolognese thoughts? I don't see in any way you can deny this song a good rating or meaning and beauty
2018-07-07 12:09
Yeah, a fine song
2018-07-07 12:46
Listen to Eden, thats what I listen to so much better than all of these other rappers
2018-07-05 05:16
why are u so triggered? lol life is good my friend, chill out xd why dont you show the kids whats real music is? XD stay positive <3 #HLTVarmy
2018-07-05 05:47
+1 Negative is bad my friend
2018-07-05 05:54
Life isn't good for everyone, someone has a bad life
2018-07-07 03:15
I wAs BoRn In ThE wRoNg GeNeRaTiOn
2018-07-05 07:44
NiKo | 
France Dealotts 
+1 (no ban Jonathan E. pls <33)
2018-07-05 08:02
You say all of this now but did you asked yourself "why is this happening"?
2018-07-05 08:03
I did and music would be the cause of it partly or more but I'm sharing message on the trouble we're dealing now
2018-07-07 03:16
It is because people are listening to those, it is because people appreciate the rotten fakes. Music industry is addressing to the vast majority of people as any marketing brand will do so. Do not blame the creator but the consumer for being poor and accepting to live under a broken ceiling that's nicely painted.
2018-07-07 12:09
Each one got his share of blame. Who in a sane mind would allow such artists be released? Let alone become pop... Consumers play a role of herd, no surprise there.
2018-07-07 12:49
Spain Lucien 
I'm really not against you, in fact I agree with you. But what kind of music do you like? Just curious. And another thing, you wont convince anyone saying at the beginning "you all suck"
2018-07-05 10:00
Spain Lucien 
Actually I feel you are being arrogant and egoistic. While the "music" most people listen to nowadays is utter shit, they should be able without any doubts, to listen to what they want. Besides you are not the only one on the fucking world that listens to real music you self centered dumbass, there is millions of people who probably listen to the music you like. Sorry for being so agresive but I tilt very easily when people aren't rational and objective.
2018-07-05 10:05
this video sums it up pretty well it's actually scary
2018-07-05 10:07
ropz | 
Finland Sandels 
2018-07-05 10:09
You're right, you didn't touch the main issue so I have nothing to say there
2018-07-07 03:17
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Whilst I agree the current generation is in an inclination of uneducated declination, it's still unfair of you to berate others for that of your own personal music tastes. Respect others and stop with the superiority-complex when it comes to music. Your taste is no different to another, it's good to you and not good to others; basically epitomising the wonderful difference of opinions. Either you are purposely trying to bait/trigger people into replying with misconduct, or you simply do not care for the opinion of others, which makes you a terrible person in tandem to who you call out.
2018-07-05 10:12
Canada PwnNewb 
he is just a baiter, and even trying to copy your writing style to some degree. But the word choice is often forced and awkward, and doesn't have the natural folow of any vernacular I have ever heard. Makes me wonder if it is google translate, or just someone sitting with a thesaurus pushing their vocabulary a little farther than their grasp of English. I hope it is #2, because at least in that case they are learning something from it instead of just having google do all the work. Baiting isn't terrible I suppose, if It was actually a useful educational exercise from him to learn from. If the post alone is not enough to establish it as bait, some of the replies he makes certainly are enough. I give it 4/8. While really bad, it will work on half the people here, mainly do to them not grasping English well enough to sense the awkwardness and unnatural nature of the writing in his post.
2018-07-05 10:26
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I definitely concur with your analysis, friend. It's evident he doesn't care, but I think what you state is correct in him learning the language he often berates others for. If he is using outside sources for English knowledge, I wish he'd use these same sources just to educate some personal courtesy and common social etiquette. Pseudo-intellectualism might be hard to swallow, but spreading it with such little care is indeed as you state "awkward". "I give it 4/8. While really bad, it will work on half the people here, mainly do to them not grasping English well enough to sense the awkwardness and unnatural nature of the writing in his post." Your awfully kind then. xD I'm sure his music taste is perfectly fine, but it's the lack of common sense and disregard for others well-being that surmounts the bait, in my opinion.
2018-07-05 10:33
What are your thoughts on the idea that he may be a Jovik alt? Lots of evidence for it, the writing style, musical superiorty complex, account creation date all point towards it being true.
2018-07-05 11:29
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
There is a lot of plausibility, but I don't think the users are the same. I spoke with Jovik a lot and whilst there is a similarity in their pseudo-intellectualism, there is no homophobic paedophilia to be had. So if it is Jovik minus the aforementioned illegality, then it's possible. I personally don't think so, however.
2018-07-05 11:32
He probably is,though. Check out reply number 10 of the mocking thread dedicated to him and you will notice he laughs just like a russian does, and jovik was no fakeflagger.
2018-07-05 13:45
He really is similar. The "lemme put as many fancy words in my sentence as I can" writing style sold it to me.
2018-07-05 21:09
yeah, did you see the thread i made about it? if not go to my profile and it is one of the latest threads of mine, pretty comprehensive list of all the evidence
2018-07-05 21:10
My personal music taste is out of topic. I never said my favorite music is superior to the others' favorite music but it comes out as so naturally. I'm not a terrible person. It's a great insult considering you don't even know me properly
2018-07-07 03:20
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Your reply is late as well as misguided, which is the norm when digressing points to you. So, lets begin, shall we? "My personal music taste is out of topic." Incorrect, it's exactly the same as everybody else's, it's personal taste. It's not "bad", it's "different" and not suited to you specifically. "I never said my favorite music is superior to the others' favorite music but it comes out as so naturally." Yes you have on several occasions and feigning innocence in a moronic, badly written fashion won't change this from being the truth. You are not a music expert, you're a musical bully. "I'm not a terrible person. It's a great insult considering you don't even know me properly" Yes you are. You're a self-admitted homophobic who engages in dictatorship over common sense and democracy. I know you well enough to know your posts are entirely consisted of pseudo-intellectualism, as well as egotistical nonsense when it comes to talking about music. You are a megalomaniac who takes pleasure in causing disdain to others. Have a good day.
2018-07-07 14:59
You're way too rude for cucked democracy lover. Let's just credit your game for that, I'm doing you a favor for there might be no excuse to such issues. Nice little judgey
2018-07-07 16:39
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"You're way too rude for cucked democracy lover." You referring to me as rude is an inability to read my posts properly. "Let's just credit your game for that, I'm doing you a favor for there might be no excuse to such issues. Nice little judgey" I won't stop teaching you how to act like an adult, so if you continue to act like a child, I will treat you like one. Your choice.
2018-07-07 16:42
Remind me who you are to define how an adult should act like? Too much carried on your shoulders, take it easy, we all have flaws
2018-07-08 06:16
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
You proclaim yourself to be many things, but they are never intelligent. You're arrogant, enjoy baiting for attention and know nothing about a subject you claim superiority over. I think trying to argue with others about a subject you fail to understand is the opposite of being an adult, but you are free to disagree, as children do.
2018-07-09 00:18
You say I know nothing of the subject I'm discussing, bold claim, children tend to make ones. Not able to bring anything except for subjectivity which only applies to the taste. You act so ridiculous and pitiful at the same time. Work on your behavior, you don't seem to act normally when someone disagrees, poor scene
2018-07-09 02:13
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"You say I know nothing of the subject I'm discussing, bold claim, children tend to make ones." Yes. Proving so with every comment you make. Chastising others on their own music choice and claiming superiority over your own. That is childish, as is your attempt at feigning innocence. "Not able to bring anything except for subjectivity which only applies to the taste." Yeah -- This is what you are doing. Difference being I respect others opinions, you do not. "You act so ridiculous and pitiful at the same time. Work on your behavior, you don't seem to act normally when someone disagrees, poor scene" Asking me to work on my behaviour is the funniest thing I've read all day. Your ignorance is so palpable that you find your own obtrusive behaviour non-existent, hmm? Prove my point once again. Have a good day.
2018-07-09 22:20
I do listen and respect others opinions just as well but I never claimed, as I said a numerous times before, my taste to be superior. I want to make them aware of music situation in the world right now, the point of the thread and decision making is what is certainly up to them. I'm only sharing a message as a statement that says nothing new but all obvious.
2018-07-10 03:12
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"I do listen and respect others opinions just as well but I never claimed, as I said a numerous times before, my taste to be superior." Yes you have. How blindly arrogant are you? "I want to make them aware of music situation in the world right now, the point of the thread and decision making is what is certainly up to them. I'm only sharing a message as a statement that says nothing new but all obvious." No you don't. Outright from the first sentence of your friend you offend everyone, wrap it in a ribbon of click-bait and then go on to slander those with different music tastes. Actually read your own replies before replying.
2018-07-10 22:12
There IS a reason for each kind of reply that may come out from me. You better ask that because as you could see, I never was rude to anyone who was good and polite to me
2018-07-11 06:36
Denmark ScRx 
Are you sure you wish to report this thread? bb gay))))
2018-07-05 10:12
Italy InSuu 
+1 tutta la ragione
2018-07-05 10:13
Italy InSuu 
only good music is hardbass
2018-07-05 10:19
+1 in almost all things
2018-07-05 10:31
What a good little buddy
2018-07-05 13:16
I could care less about what music they like. I just won't listen to it. I care about them thinking everything in life just comes to you for free these days. Many will just live with their parents their whole life. Gives them plenty of time to protest things they know nothing about but think they are cool. I honestly think many will never work a day in their life so in a way I kind of envy them. You do only live one life. They should just enjoy the fact of not working for a living but stop being tools.
2018-07-05 10:36
You have a point +. We may have a great discussion
2018-07-07 03:21
Europe Tejmn 
Get life or kill your self...
2018-07-05 10:43
Czak kenj egy ház. 4Head LOOOL
2018-07-05 11:41
What do you think about Muse or even Twenty one pilots, i mean lyrics of theirs have a real meaning maybe not on all theirs songs but atleast on some of theirs song. I got others songs like those ones : - ; I realy like this one, when I listen it I realy feel something that may be difficult for to decrisbe it in English. - ; maybe like this there is nothing but when you have watch the movie this song is realy meaningful. - ; Don't realy know the singer but this song seem to be have an actual content behind the lyrics - ; So sum up the lyrics are about a guys that is looking for what is life is going to be, for that he use to make comparison with some random people that he see on square, who seem to have find theirs way in life. So I was writing and I just think that the first two song don't have lyrics, I still care of what you thinks about it but if I understant song without lyric was not your point in your message.
2018-07-05 11:52
I liked Stressed Out by 21P, can't say I ever liked Muse but your tracks are intriguing
2018-07-07 03:23
Intriguing ? In a good way or bad ?
2018-07-11 11:41
In a good way, I already started my integration
2018-07-11 18:54
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
Muse <333
2018-07-07 12:05
rain | 
Estonia Turittu 
Why don´t you make music yourself then make something good lol
2018-07-05 12:03
I would if I could
2018-07-07 03:23
rain | 
Estonia Turittu 
What is the reason you can't?
2018-07-07 12:40
Them many, it requires owning some certain things and time
2018-07-07 12:51
Don't exaggerate lol, there's still good music out there. I think the lil' this and lil' thats of this world blow too but there's plenty of decent shit being made in this era too. Your rant makes you come of as a fedora tipping neckbearded fattie that can't handle youth. I know you're not, 1 love bby
2018-07-05 12:29
I desperately have tried to find and there's none. I could hardly name one or two songs at the very best. Technology has killed the soul and without soul there is no feeling, no feeling no life. Music is dead, take it son
2018-07-05 13:16
Try to listen Vitas Skyfall, mb u like it
2018-07-05 16:17
I liked 7th element, he's extraordinary
2018-07-05 16:44
Czech Republic ez_4_prodka 
2018-07-05 12:30
Belgium TheEpicFace4 
Give me any good reason why this song is shit & why the artist is shit. I mean give like a good explanation.
2018-07-05 12:30
He's a thief, sampling (stealing) ideas from other songs to produce it as his own with added rap-mumbling and overall destroying the original composition. He can't sing, he only reads rap to the beats and flows. Anyone could do that. His voice would only be fittable to some folk music or country perhaps. Song is okay, for his standards but overall there's only a good tune in the background and good melody during the chorus but his mumbling in the verses kills a potentially good song.
2018-07-07 03:56
He is not mumbling at all, He definitely can sing. He is just telling real stories about his life, if it is good or not. Just listen to this one he can definitely sing in this song.
2018-07-11 17:16
Ok so? You are not going to tell me what i can do
2018-07-05 12:42
What should I tell you
2018-07-07 03:57
The weather in italy ?
2018-07-07 03:57
Hot but promised rain
2018-07-07 04:01
What is good music for you?
2018-07-05 13:06
Music that gets along with your soul and makes you feel and realise
2018-07-07 03:57
Sweden Akoulad 
1900s were so much better. World War 1 & 2 Icon figures like Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, Marilyn Monroe, Grace Kelly, Audrey Hepburn, Ingrid Bergman. The we have the presidents of course, Hoover, Roosevelts, Kennedy, Eisenhower. Of course we can't forget Albert Einstein
2018-07-05 13:23
China zhoQueeN 
remember hiroshima and nagasaki atomic bombings? good times
2018-07-05 14:41
Czech Republic ez_4_prodka 
2018-07-05 15:44
2018-07-07 03:57
2018-07-05 13:16
Yes it is and she has a good potential of become a rock and roll girl but her voice is kind of weak and trembling, she can't always sing ballads only
2018-07-07 04:01
very interesting
2018-07-05 13:43
Complaining won't help anybody. Instead of insulting modern music, ask for some (what you consider good) music. I'm sure people will happily recommend their favorite musicians to you. Also, you pretend that you are the only person in the world who has a passion for music. And that's ridiculous. I agree that mumble rap is a disgrace to music and "musicians" who don't write their own songs are embarrassing. But there are still musicians out there, who have passion, whose songs have meanings. It just seems like you don't want to find them, and that's your fault, not music's fault. Also if bait, fak yu :) This is music i enjoy. And those musicians are still around and make music. <- The Decline is probably a more complicated composition than most of the stuff anyone here listens to, including you.
2018-07-05 13:54
Beck is kind of fine. And no, I tried to find and it's surely not the music's fault but the people's who allow such songs become pop and transform populations into submissive zombies. Music is not art anymore, it's a money suck tool and those who care about music will not be heard until God strikes right in them
2018-07-07 04:03
Germany slyyf 
DISCLAIMER: I don't like concurrent music. Let me guess, you're power metal/rock fan, considering yourself to be some sort of musical godsent or some audiophile? One thing about being actually grown up, is minding your own business and not judging others because of their taste - unless their taste is actually harmful to other or otherwise malicious. (And no, your precious ears don't count, just grow up)
2018-07-05 13:57
Germany qwertzniki 
2018-07-05 18:40
I don't care about other certain individuals' tastes but of the people in general. The music they listen to then that mindset they get and I want civilised people around me and not fucking animals listening to purple haired swines
2018-07-07 04:08
China zhoQueeN 
made a mill off that, off that mumbling shit bought a crib for momma, off that mumbling shit fuck you oldhead :)
2018-07-05 14:42
You are doomed for life as it seems, any old man is smarter than 100 braindead teens like you Your music is literal shit, enjoy
2018-07-07 04:09
United States Trump2020KAG 
Closed to refugees. GG Hungary
2018-07-05 15:47
Denmark Magisk 
Your arguments are shit. Some of the rappers only do it for money, like Travis Scott, Lil' Pump and Lil' Yachty. But you can find talented rappers like Kendrick Lamar, XXXTenatacion and Juice WRLD, who actually sings about meaningfull stuff, and not just shit like ESKETIT, money and bitches. What music do you like, and what is good music according to you?
2018-07-05 16:07
United Kingdom galaxzy 
he hasnt even bothered listening to any other music
2018-07-05 20:33
None of those you mentioned are close to be talented or having any clues about muisc. And if you do it for money then leave our planet, disgusting apes. Music is art and don't mix it up with dirty cash
2018-07-07 04:10
Denmark Magisk 
And how can you call Eminem trash?
2018-07-07 09:24
He's good for rap standards but he's pure shit by the music standards
2018-07-07 12:44
Denmark Magisk 
Jesus fucking christ. So by your logic, it's everyone else that has a shitty taste for music, and you are the only one that likes good music? Ok then.
2018-07-07 13:48
Everyone who prefers rap to music that requires real instruments play, skill and talent - yes.
2018-07-07 16:30
2018-07-05 16:18
Romania moetxxx 
post malone g-eazy, the weeknd are ok but garrix tiesto hardwell are the best stop beeing frustrated old man
2018-07-05 16:20
They're all shit
2018-07-07 04:10
I don't get what he's saying but he's a weak fart too
2018-07-07 04:10
Hey, Im 15 and I only listen to old school but yea it just upsets me that at my school everyone listens to fucking Lil Pump, 6ix9ine, etc
2018-07-05 16:59
Sometimes you think that shooting occuring in that school wouldn't be a big tragedy
2018-07-07 04:11
Norway Denzil 
2018-07-05 17:35
RobbaN | 
Europe juanoo 
Thats true actually
2018-07-05 18:36
Germany qwertzniki 
what do you listen to?
2018-07-05 18:40
To good music my buddy
2018-07-05 18:56
Germany qwertzniki 
u professional baiter?
2018-07-05 20:30
2018-07-07 04:11
Germany qwertzniki 
arent think so
2018-07-07 21:05
You better believe it
2018-07-14 06:31
United States SladesterG 
First off rap isn't supposed to be about singing quality and shit it's and flow and beats so your argument there is irrelevant. Second off you said that there is no meaning and everyone eof them is bad and ugly and treat women wrong and shit, tell me how logic is bad please because this game is the most humble and down to earth guy in the game just go watch his genius interviews and listen to his songs because they have meaning and have great over quality Kthxbai
2018-07-05 18:44
You can't have an argument if you never really listened to actual music and if you admit that rap doesn't have any music from the real instruments and that shit was made up on PC, you should just quietly agree and go away listening to your favorite clowns with purple hair. None of those you've mentioned has ever come close to music
2018-07-05 18:55
United Kingdom galaxzy 
link some 'real' music
2018-07-05 20:43
*proceeds to Link you bethovens 3 symphony*
2018-07-05 21:43
United Kingdom galaxzy he linked these in another thread i dont see how this is 'real' music no emotion and repeat of lyrics + boring the only good things are the catchy orchestra but someone could create that in 30 minutes (?) nowadays with tech i think he is just one of those 'born in the wrong generation kiddos' and he actually doesn't understand music at all.
2018-07-05 21:46
I think so too.
2018-07-05 22:40
You must be dead if there's no emotion for you though what'd you know when you prioritize rap over actual music, your opinion straight down trashbin
2018-07-06 14:37
United Kingdom galaxzy 
i dont like rap music u cretin
2018-07-06 15:03
Okay then, I am sorry but my point still stands just change rap to what you listen to and with 90% chance of probability I'll still be right
2018-07-06 15:08
United Kingdom galaxzy 
i listen to what you listen too
2018-07-06 15:13
Nice try Gibraltar vomit
2018-07-06 15:14
United Kingdom galaxzy 
prove i dont noob
2018-07-06 15:16
I do can't know it to be sure but you low
2018-07-06 15:17
United Kingdom galaxzy 
lmao, you're really pathetic also you publicly stated that you fapped to a trap n1 jovik
2018-07-06 15:24
I didnt but I was going to because she had a really good face, stop insulting me
2018-07-06 15:26
United Kingdom galaxzy 
LMAO its just funny like really funny
2018-07-06 15:27
Rotten teeth brit
2018-07-06 15:30
United Kingdom galaxzy 
oioi getting sensitive now are we?
2018-07-06 15:31
ahahaha i fucking died
2018-07-06 12:06
Why would u care about what other people listen to?
2018-07-05 19:10
United Kingdom galaxzy 
he is insecure about his music taste because he was bullied in school for listening to Mozart
2018-07-05 20:32
Because music has an obvious influence on the people and they become what they listen to, I don't wanna see painted clowns all around me with retarded vocabulary
2018-07-07 04:12
Ukraine badhamster3 
But there were actually some great bands in last couple of years, cannot agree. Only if you talking about mainstream, but it's expected, 'cause any mainstream music is s1mple. Actually, it's 1 of 2 main rules of mainstream music. First is simpleness, second is groove. Nevertheless, i think it's great that the music i love is not actually the mainstream. It becomes more personal, private. And more beautiful, 'cause this music is non-commercial, it aims on music itself.
2018-07-05 20:55
Good point but I can't say pop music has a groove, it has a drum machine and processed voice with tons of effects but no groove at all. Any fucking teenager can do such music at home, disgrace
2018-07-07 04:13
Ukraine badhamster3 
Hmm, i think i can agree with you about it.
2018-07-08 11:51
If you would be intelligent you wouldn't write such shit.
2018-07-05 21:41
I never put a claim of being intelligent but I do already see that I am reading what you all write here
2018-07-07 04:14
2018-07-05 21:42
>no lyrics with a meaning >Eminem Pick one pizzaman
2018-07-05 21:43
Estonia zaurs 
eminem raps only about how he gonna kill his mother and ex-wife Kim :D
2018-07-06 14:38
Poems is one thing but lyrics is what should be sung, he can't even sing. He just mumbles his rhymes, good poems but shit lyrics because he can't even sing them
2018-07-07 04:15
bro, wont talk to you cause you dont understand hip hop :/
2018-07-09 20:57
I don't care about it, I understand music and hip hop is not music.
2018-07-10 03:09 watch this kiddo, pure poetry
2018-07-10 07:01
What a pile of shit. It's worse than my school poems with broken english. It's a disgrace to music, rap should be banned forever. It's not a poetry, (NOT THE LYRICS LOL), he can't even sing, he just reads these silly rhymes that anyone else could write within an hour. Absolute shit
2018-07-10 07:09
ahha you dont undertsand the concept, wont tell you cause you are not going to try to understand, keep listening to your music, one day I hope you realize there is something behind the voice/the way its singed.
2018-07-10 07:22
Don't get me wrong, I respect rap, but as entertainment. You see, it has more similarities with entertaining people rather than having a big value for art. They move like comic dancers, they talk (read) like telling a joke in the rhyme and they don't even have chords or real instruments in their songs. It is ENTERTAINMENT and I can respect it as that but I never see it as music, way too far aside
2018-07-10 07:26
way more than just entertainment, its a way of live, its ART
2018-07-10 15:05
Some kind of, if an entire black canvas may be considered art today than of course. Art definitions are stretched to the unbelievable margin. Rap is not art, it's just an entertainment for the time.
2018-07-10 15:11
they appear to be famous because they are in partnership with the mainstream medias and thats how they make their fortune
2018-07-06 12:41
OMEGALUL rip logic... Music taste is completely subjective, if you dont like it thats your problem.
2018-07-06 13:54
It's not subjective. Considering music has a huge influence on the people when they become what they listen to, I do care what they listen to because I want sane people around me and music has degradated to primitive sounds made on PC with lyrics popularizing being an idiot, nice
2018-07-07 04:16
Lul who read whole text. It is enough to read first sentence, middle sentence and last sentence and you know the whole point.
2018-07-06 14:41
your right almost every rapper with lil in from is shit and just mumbles like "ya ya you know i kill peoople ya ya ya im in the hood"
2018-07-06 14:42
2018-07-06 15:32
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
fits for rap and some other genres, but definitely not for everything.
2018-07-06 15:33
Almost everything in the present time
2018-07-07 04:16
+1 can we return to 1950?
2018-07-06 16:02
I would if I could
2018-07-07 04:16
United States ascendaNt_88 
Same, I was born in the wrong generation. Wish I could go back to Europe during the black plague.
2018-07-06 16:08
United States ascendaNt_88 
Jokes aside though, why do you feel the need to share your insecurities?
2018-07-06 16:10
he wants attention
2018-07-06 16:19
I'm for the sake of mankind, music makes the shape of population and amount of freedom breathes personality into them
2018-07-06 16:20
African Union KFCManager 
you are the finest mind of this generation sitting on half life television writing comments OMEGALUL
2018-07-06 16:21
Not the place that matters but the words that are spoken
2018-07-06 16:24
what should the finest mind be doing? speaking from a perspective that doesn't concern your egoistic benefits in an egoistic world?
2018-07-08 22:01
African Union KFCManager 
hmmm for sure they dont argue with kids on a cs go forum (im 13)
2018-07-08 22:34
what if he or she is a pedophile?
2018-07-09 22:35
Implying there's something wrong with being a pedo? You srsly??
2018-07-10 07:27
liking anything but cute anime (high) school girls is a sin, my friend.
2018-07-10 08:22
Sin is fake, it was come up by Church rulers to keep the people boxed in their routine world, no sin, no hell... sadly, no anime girls too
2018-07-10 08:23
meh. theists aren't any worse than edgy atheists who want to forgo all reason (you default to declining your natural drive to decline and forgo all reason, contra galileo) and call everything a social construct, even if it very clearly isn't. only such that they can rationalize their mindless (over)indulgence. (e.g. a person genuinely told me that virginity = not having been inseminated = having the hymen intact = being (psychologically) childless is a "social construct" or a "concept like god". the post-truth is very much real.) atheists are about as bad as feminazis who go around calling literally everything sexist. only that, instead, they call everything a social construct.
2018-07-10 12:53
No, atheists are much smarter than beliebers, we're rational and up to any theory while you believe in 'someone' and that he created 'something', I could write that book and threw it back 2018 years ago. And don't associate smart people with feminists and other liberal shit. Atheists are on top of social pyramid by their point of view on the world and acceptance of things that can be proven
2018-07-10 13:33
see? i hit the nail on the head.
2018-07-10 08:23
African Union KFCManager 
cuz he thinks hes a philosopher with 900 iq and every1 is dumb the truth is that hes a nerd
2018-07-06 16:22
Germany 2018
2018-07-06 16:20
Poor europeans, their government cucked them and themselves as well
2018-07-07 04:17
Belgium HLTVnewfag 
I think that previous generations said the same about us, our parents etc. Its just a natural thing, and this change in mentallity can also bring positives in the future
2018-07-06 16:27
Not quite, there used to be time, 5 consecutive decades to the very least when a thing as 'complaining about the previous generation music' was not existent, music has evolved and brought more meaning and happiness into regular lives. It became a thing when rock and roll was born but rock and roll let the underground communities have a purpose and meaning to evolve music apart from the popular one and it was accepted because it still required a huge talent, skill in the process and unique approach to routine things. None of those clowns has anything like that
2018-07-07 04:19
this baiter again LOL
2018-07-06 16:27
chikenbrowzeR lEl
2018-07-07 04:19
you just dont know how to find good music nowadays
2018-07-07 12:44
Even if I knew I wouldn't find
2018-07-07 12:52
Not bad, it was a fine decade overall but the music was already bleeding out, almost dead. It was dead honestly. It still was nice to the ears because despite technology and new approach, music still required skillful people at it now they can't even do this properly
2018-07-07 04:22
2018-07-08 01:29
Sweden Dino1 
Now this is what i consider a high-tier bait. Well executed. WP
2018-07-07 03:25
Nice assumption, wrong though but okay
2018-07-07 04:20
Indonesia Exodd 
Not everything can be measured through music taste
2018-07-07 04:18
I don't measure everything
2018-07-07 04:22
I was intrigued by the first two tracks but then I saw West and I've lost interest instantly, you need a good introduction to the music
2018-07-07 04:23
you need to listen to all of it. its clean and harmonic
2018-07-07 04:24
Try again, give me top five of your tracks and I will lend my ears onto you
2018-07-07 04:24
alright give me a sec
2018-07-07 04:25
right now my top 5 are these I also like fairly old music, 60-80s, my favourtie band of all time is probably pink floyd
2018-07-07 04:29
Cudi Montage >>>>>> Reborn. 4th Dimension >>> Reborn.
2018-07-07 04:35
I like 4th dimension a lot but its not as emotionally powerful as reborn, even though reborn is quite repetive. and kanyes verse in reborn is so so good imo
2018-07-07 04:38
Just my opinion. Try Nas - Everything, New Album released 2 weeks ago also w/ Kanye.
2018-07-07 04:38
Its okay but I prefer old Nas songs, like the Message and If I ruled the world
2018-07-07 04:39
Same, just saying,. some kanye west songs can considered classics already(All falls down, Stronger, POWER futurely), so i guess it would be cool for you if you listened to current Nas, i agree, he's already been in a god tier, but still is fine.
2018-07-07 04:40
Yeah. By Kanye my all time favs are probably real friends and bound 2. Of course I liked his old songs but I like how he reinvents himself.
2018-07-07 04:42
Real Friends/Mercy are songs from him which i'm about to listen, btw, what do you see in bound 2? I mean, that song is a bit annoying(with that hook of those girls singing), for me it's a solid 7/10, some persons like this song really much and i don't know why(Black Skinhead, my fav in the album + one of his best tracks imo.) But i agree to you, Kanye, Nas, Ice Cube... All these legends made history.
2018-07-07 04:44
I don't know what I see in it exactly, I just think its catchy. You like Biggie btw? Who shot ya is a personal fav.
2018-07-07 04:47
Yeah, i do. Big Poppa Hypnotize Going Back to Cali I don't understand why people overrate Juicy so much while Big Poppa is literally the best one in Ready To Die...
2018-07-07 04:48
Yeah I agree, probably because its more of a pop song so everyone can listen to it. I don't think real Biggie fans prefer Juicy over the rest.
2018-07-07 04:49
I agree to you, Big Poppa is also a personal fav due to childhood stuff, such as GTA SA :) Juicy is also cool, but people mostly also use to make those lists "Greatest Rap Tracks in each year" and everyone puts 1994 - The Notorious B.I.G. - Juicy, you get it?(Despite i think It Ain't Hard To Tell was the best from 94, and if i had to put some biggie's, that would be Big Poppa.)
2018-07-07 04:52
Oops, killed the moment... Don't let this lost soul make up your mind. Forget about rap, throw it away from your life. I will give you a much better music
2018-07-07 04:58
Whats so bad about Nas? :D I mean thats not autotuned and hes not singing about bitches and how rich he is
2018-07-07 05:06
Does he sing at all, he mumbles his rhymes that he would never attach to decent music with the melody, he doesn't even have melody in it, just singing in the flow... it's not music buddy
2018-07-07 05:07
I get your point :)
2018-07-07 05:09
Are you reallly wanting to please this stupid low lifer baiter?
2018-07-07 22:10
are you really wanting to displease this awesome hltv user?
2018-07-10 18:01
WTF go away delusional kid
2018-07-10 19:40
2018-07-10 19:39
cry is free kkk.
2018-07-10 19:41
2018-07-10 19:45
Wow, excellent taste, just amazing, I approve it with almost perfect score
2018-07-07 04:58
Nice! I really listen to almost everything. Except modern rap.
2018-07-07 05:04
You cannot, get certain and popularize real music that requires real instruments and real skill for it's the only kind of music that makes you feel and fills your life with happiness and good intentions
2018-07-07 05:05
Do you feel the same way about electronic music mixed with real drums and guitars for example? Cause a chill edm tune can make me really happy.
2018-07-07 05:08
Electronic approach shouldn't be allowed in music history. You can make a much better sound with orchestra or simply a keyboard and bass guitar. Don't fall for electro, only weak people who can't compose anything worthwhile go to electro
2018-07-07 05:09
Yeah I see. While we are talking about orchestras, listen to this masterpiece:
2018-07-07 05:11
A really good tune, I approve its worth and score given
2018-07-07 05:15