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Ukraine is not CIS
s1mple | 
Ukraine Pornhub_banned 
Dear hltv.org users! I would like to ask u to stop call Ukraine a CIS member. 1. Ukraine has never been a CIS member. 2. Ukraine has never ratified a CIS charter. 3. Since 19 May 2018 Ukraine is no more even associated with CIS. 4. Association doesn't make u a member. Ukraine is also associated with European Union, tho. (Don't delete this thread. Its not written using caps any more.)
2018-07-06 18:59
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ok putin
2018-07-06 19:00
ukraine is not a country
2018-07-07 11:08
#459
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Estonia teremartin 
ok putin
2018-07-11 12:00
#466
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Czech Republic LIFTY! 
Soviet union = CIS. Done.
2018-07-11 13:04
ok putin
2018-07-19 13:18
#2
s1mple | 
CIS avens1s 
ok putin
2018-07-06 19:00
Sadly.
2018-07-06 19:00
whats the difference? lulz Ukraine joined to European Union only because this "war" . we are all Slavs. I think in CS community Slavs = CIS
2018-07-06 20:23
slavs=cis=gambit gg
2018-07-06 20:30
what do u mean man
2018-07-06 20:41
gtfo kid
2018-07-06 20:54
#443
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Latvia Xaity 
what ? :DD
2018-07-10 16:19
This started cuz Ukraine wanted to associate with EU.
2018-07-06 20:34
lol no
2018-07-06 20:46
0 IQ Is Poland a CIS? Is Czech a CIS? Are balkans CIS? Is Slovakia a CIS? I mean not all slavs are CIS.
2018-07-06 20:51
16 is it age or IQ?
2018-07-06 21:45
dick size
2018-07-06 21:56
milimeters?
2018-07-07 09:37
nanometers*
2018-07-07 11:15
micrometers
2018-07-10 16:01
kilometers
2018-07-11 09:51
#374
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Belarus andryxa1337 
ti dolbaeb/ecli ne zahesh' 4to eti vce strani toje clavyane
2018-07-07 13:30
ti dolbaeb chtoli? ya prosto po-rovlil s chelika sin kartokhi
2018-07-07 15:14
Obidno D:
2018-07-10 07:24
ne obizhaisia,bro
2018-07-10 13:17
#436
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Kazakhstan DanabekAlt 
suka v golos pro kartohu xD
2018-07-10 14:53
#455
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Ukraine sadhasj22 
xdd
2018-07-11 09:53
#494
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Liechtenstein mary69 
hahahaha😂😂
2018-07-19 13:19
Poles are slavs aswell so why not give some polish teams A FREE FUCKING SPOT ON MAJOR FROM CIS MINOR? ;))) (seriously just make it european minor with more slots )
2018-07-06 21:40
The reason is many ukrainians players understand they dont even have a chance on eu minor. Thats why. Thats why hr play on CIS minor as well.
2018-07-06 21:43
Its just not fair that EU minor is so stacked with good teams when you have like one or two max tier 2 teams in HR and Avangar and the rest is shit. They should force them to play with european teams but give additional two spots that are being held by CIS minor
2018-07-06 21:47
Agree. Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Litva and Estonia (they also play cis minor) to EU. Kazakhstan to Asia.
2018-07-06 21:49
+111
2018-07-06 21:50
#263
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Myanmar xdcc 
Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia do not play in CIS minor anymore unless they played with CIS majority.
2018-07-06 21:57
Didn't know.
2018-07-06 22:00
#280
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Myanmar xdcc 
Hard to find info on who exactly is allowed to play but in PGL major these were allowed: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.
2018-07-06 22:15
#316
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Lithuania Paulius_CS 
and thats very bad for us. It would help the scene if we could qualify in CIS
2018-07-06 23:03
#399
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Finland no_man 
Estonia plays on CIS qualifiers? Really?
2018-07-09 09:25
#437
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Kazakhstan DanabekAlt 
braindamaged kid, Kazakstan is a multi-national country almost 100 different nations living there, and its located in the middle of the eu and as its can not belong to asia
2018-07-10 14:58
#470
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Kazakhstan ineenja 
kz cant play asia just because of 200+ ping also we are cis member
2018-07-11 13:18
Yes, you are.
2018-07-11 15:15
DECL UKRAINA NE EVROPA
2018-07-06 22:47
#6
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United States EmperorTrump 
when people say CIS they usually refer to ex-USSR region, not literal commonwealth
2018-07-06 19:01
But they don't use CIS for Baltic countries such as Latva, Latvia and Estonia.
2018-07-06 19:02
we do retarded moron
2018-07-06 19:04
#32
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United States Prattatat 
Wait what? I thought Latvia was considered CIS?
2018-07-06 19:12
No. CIS is Russia, Belarus and some asian [your text]stan.
2018-07-06 19:13
#39
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United States Prattatat 
Oh damn alright .... wait hold on simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_o..
2018-07-06 19:17
2018-07-06 19:19
#47
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United States Prattatat 
Yooooo wtf that crazy. Every map I look up has the 4 you mentioned as not highlighted in the CIS region but the documents I'm finding say that they are. WTF is going on with this region lol
2018-07-06 19:23
U have to realise that be a founder doesn't make u a member.
2018-07-06 19:26
#259
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United States Prattatat 
Ahh that ones much better, doing so earlier this year. Would have thought that to be bigger news but cool
2018-07-06 21:55
Latvia is not cis
2018-07-06 19:56
#45
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Paraguay HighAlching 
latva and latvia? xd
2018-07-06 19:22
I am so sorry if u are from Litva (Lithuania).
2018-07-06 19:24
#51
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Paraguay HighAlching 
its ok Ukraina
2018-07-06 19:25
whhhaaaat lockerboy is a russian speaker
2018-07-06 20:56
#198
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Paraguay HighAlching 
i dont speak russian
2018-07-06 21:02
Cuz Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were NEVER ussr countries maybe?
2018-07-06 19:48
#392
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Ukraine bleckvat 
Ahahahhaha, use Google, moron
2018-07-09 06:58
Use it by yourself maybe? He's right, these countries were never recognized as a part of USSR by the West. De jure they never were parts of USSR, there were OCCUPIED. Their statehoods were restored with original constitutions and property rights. Thats why so many russians and ukrainians didnt get estonian/latvian citizenship in 1991. They refused any conversations about CIS and never were visa-free for Russia or any CIS country, unlike Ukraine.
2018-07-18 10:15
#417
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Nice education Albania =D
2018-07-10 07:25
#456
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Ukraine sadhasj22 
lmfao albania XDDD
2018-07-11 09:54
#479
2018-07-18 10:06
#481
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Ukraine sadhasj22 
He's right, these countries were never recognized as a part of USSR by the West. >being recognised by West >actually being a part of USSR learn the difference between those two, lol
2018-07-18 11:28
Okey. And? What did you try to say and why you laugh? How your reply relates to #10? You laughted at the guy in #84. I explain why he's right and why Baltic States are not CIS, and now you talk about "being a part actually", but this doesnt make any fucking sense.
2018-07-18 14:18
#487
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Ukraine sadhasj22 
maybe you cant read or just blind. He said baltic countries never been a part of USSR, but its not true. Prove it is lie? No? Back off
2018-07-18 18:45
he didnt metion "de facto", he said that they werent a part of ussr, and de jure it's true again, no one said "actually" and "de facto" only you bringed it to the discussion
2018-07-18 19:35
#489
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Ukraine sadhasj22 
facepalm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_.. look what i've got here. Oh well it says baltic counties actually were a part of USSR for some time. Out of your de facto and actually stuff? lmao
2018-07-18 21:55
I claim that the guy above meant "de jure" and you are still trying to prove that they were in USSR "de facto" like I argue with it. Holy fuck dude, get some help
2018-07-19 06:18
dat guy never realize it
2018-07-06 19:03
I had realized what u meant, my friend.
2018-07-06 19:04
Don't think that ukrainian patriots like you can realize something
2018-07-06 19:06
I am not an ukrainian patriot. I dont like Dmytro_UKR. Have i asked something huge? Just simple thing.
2018-07-06 19:09
Funny because when I saw the topic name I thought that it was created by Dmytro Thank god it’s not him! I hate this retarded xenophobic Ukrainian so-called patriot
2018-07-06 21:02
ofc, all vatniks hate ukr patriots
2018-07-06 21:53
I’m not vatnik so 0/8 I hate all brainwashed people, you are just brainwashed in another way than stupid russkies who watch their TV
2018-07-06 21:55
oh really? and who are you, mr. Wisdom? you wanna say you know about Ukraine better than me?
2018-07-06 22:16
#79
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United Kingdom Quicks 
Ruskis, yayayya
2018-07-06 19:45
True - Ukraine is the last remnant of the glorious Mongol Empire.
2018-07-06 19:01
Kek.
2018-07-06 19:12
#53
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Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
Ukraine is huge part of Kyiv Rus' that's all
2018-07-06 19:26
You know alarmingly much about Ukraine. Are you Amerikanski Spjon?
2018-07-06 19:31
#62
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Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
oh u'r fucking propaganda tard
2018-07-06 19:35
Are you sure? I might just be a little less nationalistic in a country that has existed for about 20 years and its difference from Russia is that it isn't part of Russia.
2018-07-06 19:38
Sad to hear this.
2018-07-06 19:48
#84
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Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
your country is shithole then bye
2018-07-06 19:53
there is no more "Kyiv rus". Anf also this term is wrong. Correct one is "Kuiv state" or jusr "Rus".
2018-07-06 21:54
It doesnt exist anymore. But when Kyiv state or just Rus existed then terriotory of modern Ukraine was not just big part of it. It was metropolia, heart, center. And already in 1187 there was first offical mention about "Ukraine" in Ipativsky chronicle. And that term, Ukraine, was about 3 principalities or lands - Kyiv principality or just Kyiv land, Chernigiv and Pereyaslav All center territory of modern Ukraine.
2018-07-06 22:22
Ukraine, but not Russia? Really? Ukraine was Ruthenia. Russia was Moskovia.
2018-07-06 19:29
You. Don't. Say.
2018-07-06 19:30
Sorry?
2018-07-06 19:31
I am implying that I am well aware of this fact. My original comment was mocking your try to separate Ukraine from Russia, which is plain bullshit. It is like saying Austria is not German or Belgium is not French and Dutch.
2018-07-06 19:33
But Austria speaks German. And Ukraine has own language. Ukrainian People's Rep. was separated by Russia and Poland in 1920. Later in 1939 Russia had occupied (Eastern Poland) modern Western Ukraine. But even during occupation ukrainians fought against red cancer -- USSR till 1991.
2018-07-06 19:39
Austrians speak a German dialect which Germans besides Bavarians can't even understand, barely a single word of it. Meanwhile Russians easily understand Ukrainians and the other way around. Ukraine(Ruthenia) was subjugated by the Mongols, Poland-Lithuania and the Ottomans(the Crimean Khanate as their vassal) until Russia/Moscovia freed them from these countries and united the former Rus' in Russia, the land of the Rus. Ukrainians are Russian in their heritage and customs, hell, Kiev might be the true capital of the Rus'. Ukraine is Russian and you can't deny it by saying "oh but Ukraine got independant in 1920 for about 2 years while the Moscovites were fighting amongst themselves." It is like in Austria and Bavaria. The languages and customs are so similar you can't tell them apart if you are not from there.
2018-07-06 19:46
Russians don't understand Ukrainian language. Ukrainians understand russian cuz of propaganda during ages and language suppression. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Ukra.. Its not only 1920. Its also 1649–1764 as Cossack_Hetmanate. Russian still an Empire. Even today.
2018-07-06 19:55
Russians have to be able to understand Ukrainians. I learned Russian myself and was able to read and understand a Ukrainian text about tourism in the Crimea region (ironic, since it is now "Russian"), so native speakers should have no problem (I am not that well informed on that topic though.) The Cossack hetmanate was never fully independent, so that isn't a good point to make imo.
2018-07-06 20:55
Crimea is totally russian speaking, No sense to talk about Crimea on this point.
2018-07-06 20:57
Clown, when Muscovy signed a treaty with cossacks (and betrayed like always) there was a translator. Calling Ukraine Russia just because it was dominated by Russia is plain stupid. After Kievan Rus we went separate ways period.
2018-07-06 19:58
So, because there were/are borders between the people they are not the same people anymore? Austria and Bavaria have never been ruled jointly, and yet they are the same people through and through. Additionally, Muscovites and Ruthenians are mixed by blood through centuries and centuries. The similarities can't be denied.
2018-07-06 20:57
Borders don't just mean borders, it means cultural and genetic influence of another folk. Not only this, but we were not the same folk to begin with. Russia is 25% Uralo-FInic, while Ukraine is 5%. It's already a massive difference. England and Belgium don't differ from eacher other by THAT much and these are separate nations. eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplog..
2018-07-06 21:07
Yeah, I like hoqw idiots continue to think we are one nation. Hey, idiots, just look at Iberian Peninsula for example. Its even less than Ukraine and there two different nations live there. Turn on ur brain or just stop lick kremlin ugly ass, stop being damn leftei commies fags
2018-07-06 21:59
So race makes up a nation now? Impressive. Racism is a little outdated in the 21st century, unless you are, well, Russian.
2018-07-06 22:33
You make zero sense. If anyone is racist here, it's the one totally neglecting different language,culture and DNA of a folk by calling it a part of another folk.
2018-07-07 00:44
Language isn't that different, culture is very similar and DNA is utterly irrelevant unless you are racist.
2018-07-07 01:47
you damn kremlin bot Im sure in it for 95%, you fag know nothin real about Ukraine
2018-07-07 01:57
"you damn kremlin bot Im sure in it for 95%, you fag know nothin real about Ukraine" Insults show that you have nothing more to say and start arguing ad hominem. Thinking that calling me homosexual will offend me shows that you a very open mind.
2018-07-07 01:59
Cuz its all clear for me about you, I dont need to say/prove smth to you, cuz its enough for me of what you said in your replies in this tread just to ignore you at least
2018-07-07 02:12
Giving up the discourse is surrendering intellectually and living by prejudices, classic nationalistic, narrow-minded mindset.
2018-07-07 02:15
bla bla bla. One thing about Ukrainian nationalism. Its even not so for but for others, specialy Ukrainians, to say mor clear - for citizens of Ukraine. Only pro-moscovitian hypocrytes and cynics or just comlete idiots can think nationalsim is something bad and wrong when another country annexed part of your territory, make already 4 years proxy hybrid was, killing your soldiers adn civils, taking hostages all the time, making horrible tortures, spreading tones of lie from one side and from another, west, some polish shovinists say about polish Lviv from tome to time. "ver very neutral point of view" - that1s how you should name yourself now or just go to sleep.
2018-07-07 02:32
Exatly
2018-07-07 01:56
"neutral point of view" - yeah, sure... What a circus
2018-07-07 01:55
How is that not neutral? You are a Ukrainian nationalist, and I am pointing out that race does not directly influence culture and language. So you get annoyed, because you see your whole world in which Russians are an entirely different people collapse.
2018-07-07 01:57
you are not neutral, leave your circus for someone else.
2018-07-07 01:59
Arguments, not statements ad hominem, please.
2018-07-07 02:00
you also damn racist since you may think people on scuh huge territory like Ukraine and quite big part of moscovia could be same. You are absolute idiot and damn racist. Back off now.
2018-07-07 01:46
You're insults won't stop me from destroying your misguided nationalism. Since you have nothing to offer but insults and "omg the territory is big so the people must be utterly different".
2018-07-07 01:49
*your
2018-07-07 02:02
Why you dont show your flag? every modern succesful europian coutry came through period of nationalim. That`s how they have patriots now. Ukraine couldnt do it in complete way cuz was occupied and opressed for many years. Cuz 2 ww, 3 Holodomors - genocides, cuz ethnocide, cuz linguocide - that`s pure facts, pure statistic - and biggest part of that moscovia did. Even ww2 moscovia and germany started. So any leftie pro-kremlin "neutral point of view" can just go far far way, to put it very very mildly
2018-07-07 02:05
"Leftie-Pro-Kremlin" -Putin is left? Okay, I guess Merkel is Wilhelm II then. It seems to me that your ideology is ukrainian right-wing ultra-nationalist, noone in their right mind would call a "Kreml supporter" leftist, since Russia's policies are right-winged. My nationality has no relevance in this discussion, but you wish you knew it so you could insult me. Nationalism is just a substitute for religion - no more, no less. it gives the talentless and lazy something to be proud of and to live for without any logical arguments, just like religion. Why are you trying to act as if Ukraine wasn't a part of Russia, and not a very rebellious one at that. You should be thankful they saved you from Turkish occupation. So if you don't put it mildly, will you and your nationalist strongmen friends come and destroy me irl?
2018-07-07 02:13
There are similarities between all whites!
2018-07-07 01:48
That cannot be seen as objectively true. What is the similarity between Spain and Albania? That they both eat food? Unless you mean similarity in DNA, which is the same for all humans concerning 99% of their double-helix.
2018-07-07 01:52
Even some fair russian scentists, genetics and anthropologists admit Ukrainians and moscovites are different. Many europian scientists do same. Most of moscovites even now are fino-ugric people despite whlole genocides, deportations against Ukrainians.
2018-07-07 01:52
But moscovia never was a part of Kyiv state = Rus, about what common ways in past are you talking about? There were no such. Yes, formaly parts of west -north modern "russia" were parts of Kyiv state=Rus, but not moscovia. For example Great Novgorod was formaly part of Kyiv state=Rus but they identifite themselves as different people. People in metropolia of Kyiv state=Rus( on territory of modern Ukraine) called themselves "not russians" but "rusyns". And europians knew in well then and also called them so. Europians called them that way up til 18th or even 19th century. And guess how they called moern 'russians"? They called them "moscovites" - people of moscovia til 18th century and even later sometimes. Its all about corruption. moscovia corrupted europians and they finaly agreed to accept lie about Ukraine`s history, agreed to recognize new born "russia" in 18 th century as heir of Kyiv state=Rus (mistakenly known as "Kyivan Rus"). Btw this term (Kyivan Rus) was imposed by msociva also - to be able to say there was Kyivan Rus but also there was moscovian which is lie.
2018-07-07 01:41
Also not even many people in the world but even moscovites dont know about waht happend to Great Novgorod. Simly cuz they dont talk about it in schools. Or tell some fairy-tales as usually. In general whole so called officail history of so called "russia" ( moscovia) is one big fake.
2018-07-07 01:44
Yeah, all this shit you can read in russian or pro-russian info sources - nothing new, nothing wonder. History of Ukraine is incredibly falsificated by moscovia (so called "russia"). You as still many people in the world know aso very little about real Ukrainian history so just dont shame yourself, better just dont talk. Cuz you look so pitiful and banal repeating kremlin fakes
2018-07-06 22:08
You didn't bring up a single argument. Your history books were written by Ukranians, who were told to create the myth of Ukranian independence and cultural difference, especially from Russia, which is a farce at best. I am definitely an opponent of Russia in terms of ideology, but that doesn't make you less of a Rus. Most sources are anti-Russian, especially where I live and work.
2018-07-06 22:37
A lot of what you and magority of people all over the world used to know about russia from any books strongly falsified by moscovites and their corrupted europian and not only europian partners starting from 18th century. When peter 1 created his "russia" after occuping Ukraine he started to flasify Ukraine`s history in moscovia`s favor. Corrupted europians like germans Schlözer and Müller helped him to do it. They were moscovitians lobbists. After peter 1 half german katerina 1 and then katerina 2 contineud this case. The further the more moscovites ("new born impostors "russians") contineud to falsify Ukraine`s = Rusia`s history in their favour. And they continue to do it even now. And also they contine to corrupt europians, first of all germans - its all about north stream 2 etc. That`s why for such cynic, corrupted, hypocritical politics it is profitably to keep hold "official" line of europian history in particular of "moscovia`s and Ukraine`s history.
2018-07-07 14:06
You are totaly brainwashed by pro-moscovitian info sources. Moscovia (mistalenly known as "russian " nowadays) raised after Golen Horde collapsed. You say Ukraine was subjugated by Golden Horde and its true - Ukraine paid tribute for some time. But waht you didnt said is Ukraine actually fought agianst mongols while moscovia colaborated with them. moscow as small city raised in in 12th century (but mostly like in 13th in fact) and then moscoviian principality raised because of that colabotating. But in 18th century peter 1 wanted to get, to assign history of Kyiv state or Rus. That`s why after occupation of Ukraine he changed moscovia to "russia". And after that he began huge falsification of Ukraine`s -Rus history. He destoryed a lot of real documents, some of them he falsificated, some just invented. And this horrible lie lasts til today. Moscovites lied all this time - since 18th century. At the beginnig europians didnt accept it, but soon moscow corrupted them. That`s how world knows "official" history of "russia".
2018-07-06 22:37
I am not brainwashed, your usage of vocabulary is polemic and quite frankly wrong. You can prove the destruction of documents from the 18th century? Insane historians. The Ukrainians are part of the Russian people. Of course Ukraine is not Moscovia, and Russia is Moscovite dominated, just like Germany was Prussian-dominated, yet Bavaria and Holstein were still German, and they don't deny it. You may not be Moscovite, but you are Russian.
2018-07-06 22:40
Yes you are extremly brainwashed by russian propaganda or you just banal russian lobbist. Just cynic hypocrite racist dumb amoral shit . Im not proffesional historian to give you proofs here right now. Even in google you can find a lot information about, but ofc still quite a bit. Plus Im pretty sure dispite all crimes of msocvia they couldnt destroy everythin, something defenately preserved and keeps in stored in Ukraine. Not for eyes of simple citizens of Ukraine yet and ofc not for eyes such like you. In right time it will be shown. It is also happening (falsificationn) cuz Ukraine still strugling from 5th kremlin`s column inside itself who continue to try to make info-war against Ukraine. Many or maybe even magority of proofs nobody will ever could see probably cuz they were just destoyed by moscvoites. Some part of them still in moscovitian`s arhives as "top secret". You are damn clown if you ask me to bring you here and right now the proofs. Its more like you are not just brainwashed useful idiot but simply enemy.
2018-07-07 14:22
We are similar in some sences only because of long term occupation and due to our geographical location. Also due to cimes of russia agaisnt Ukraine such like genocides, ethnocide and lingoucide. fr example there are few millions of ethnic russians in Ukraine. Do you know majority of them were aftificaly moved to Ukraine by ussr goverment, specially after kremlin criminals killed millions of Ukrainians in 1932-1933 starving them to death. And now such like u dare to say shit about our similarity? Ukrainians never called themselves 'russians", they used ethnonim "rusyns". Its look same only for foreigners or just for dummies. After moscovia occupied Ukraine in 18th century rusyns or cossaks gradually started to call themselves with their second native, alternative ethnonim - 'ukrainians". It was not official then. But step by step it came in life. Why it happend? Cuz rusyns didnt want to lost themselves, their identity, they knew perfect who they are and who are moscovites - aliens, enemies, absolutely different people in all possible sences without any exaggerationalien - culture, language, traditions, mindset etc. Btw you may find a lot of free info in google where europians of those times - different travellers, scientists etc wrote about their impressions of Ukraine or Cozzachyna or Hetmanate and moscovia or tartaria. They noted big difference between them. It is not ukr propaganda - it is historical facts. Go on find it. And also "russians" whole world know nowadays are impostors, their real true name are moscovites. you think you know enough to say thinsg you say here? No, you know alsmot nothin real about Ukraine and moscovia.
2018-07-07 15:22
Ukrainian is not russian dialect. To say so its kinda say italian dialect of spanish or vice versa, or english dialect of frech etc. Ukrainian language is heart of slavic languages. It has 60-70% of slavic vocabulary and more then 20 typical slavic phonetic features.At the same time russian has not more 40% and 11 respectively. I just "love" how people saying swiftly smth they do think they know better than others. Remember - most of what you know about Ukraine is still russian/pro-russian propaganda, fakes, desinfirmation, lies.
2018-07-07 01:21
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
It's kinda similar with Croatia, Montenegro and Bosnia. When we were the same country offical language was Serbo-Croatian. Now they're making up languages and saying Croatian, Montenegrin and Bosnian are their own languages, which is of course total bullshit as they are completely the same to Serbian or what we used to call Serbo-Croatian language. Some even make up strange words just to make the language look a tiny bit different. It's just politics, obviously Russian and Ukrainian language is the same with really tiny differences, which are dialects not it being a different language. It's like saying American language is a language on it's own when it's just their version of the English language.
2018-07-10 07:33
Bullshit, its not even close.
2018-07-10 07:46
Eastern Poland are mostly ethnic Ukrainian lands. Stop say shit
2018-07-06 22:01
What would u say about Ukrainian Basarabia? Is this Ukraine, or Moldova?
2018-07-06 22:09
Im not sure about it, I forgot.
2018-07-06 22:09
you say absolute bullshit. back off dummy, brainwashed by kremlin propaganda.
2018-07-06 22:04
Not a single argument. Nothing to discuss. You can't disprove my point and use the language of a primitive proletarian.
2018-07-06 22:45
Im not so good in english and Im not professioanl historian. Also I dont really like to talk to you at all. Cuz its very like Im wasting my time. And its very like to throw pearls to the pigs also. And aslo you just can be banak kremlin bot on his mission or just mad leftie commie moron. So...
2018-07-07 01:26
All your rethoric is very lefty. The way you talk about nationalism, about msociva and Ukraine. It is so obvious. One more very important moment people have to remeber to understand present situation around moscovia and Ukraine better. The biggest mistake of west after ww2 was that fact they didnt jusdge crimes of soviet totalitaian regime whcih killed much more people than 3rd reich. The fact they 'gave" Ukraine to stalin and not only Ukraine. It was horrible and extremly cynic, and it was mistake. Aslo they could not have known that ussr and germany started ww2 and were allies almost for 2 years. But after ww2 ended they just closed their eyes on that and in fact betrayed millions of people, first of all Ukraine. And let ussr = russia to write history in their favour. And right now russia continue to speculate on their "win" against bad german nazis and t claim it have right for their zone of influence - if not all ex-ussr republics then Ukraine for sure. btw hitler just made preventive offensive on ussr cuz he knew russia prepared to offence itsself very soon. ussr just didnt have one or two monthes to start their plan.
2018-07-07 14:48
And even more - west betrayed Ukraine in 1921 also when let rusia to occupy it. And nowadays more and motre historians say it was huge mistake which was one of the main reasons which led to ww2.
2018-07-07 14:53
Yeah he is so very wrong
2018-07-06 22:02
Bullshit. Ruthenia is just another version of Rus or Russia - that`s how europians called it, 3 options. moscovia was and still moscovia - ulus of Golden Horde.
2018-07-06 21:56
Ukraine is Ruthenia.
2018-07-06 22:01
Ruthenia is just another wersion of name "Rus" or "Russia' - it is same!
2018-07-06 22:02
Ruthenia its about Rus', but not about Modern Name (Russia) of Moscovia.
2018-07-06 22:04
Yes, but even not all Ukrainians yet know it nowadays, specially foreigners. It will take time and efforts to bring the truth.
2018-07-06 22:11
#8
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Ukraine volanchick 
thanks for information
2018-07-06 19:01
Ok.
2018-07-06 19:31
#9
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Netherlands Deji 
i are not get baited pls
2018-07-06 19:02
Its not a bait. Its a request.
2018-07-06 19:03
#12
cyx | 
Bulgaria mitt@ 
ukraine is a part of russia. like ural, siberia
2018-07-06 19:03
Sadly.
2018-07-06 19:06
#65
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Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
usa is a part of Great Britain then, why did they fight for nothing lol
2018-07-06 19:36
#77
cyx | 
Bulgaria mitt@ 
nt is ukraine is losing the war against russia right?
2018-07-06 19:44
#87
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Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
nah its left
2018-07-06 19:55
#13
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Russia Guitarboi 
People won't care. They will still keep on writing that Ukraine is CIS.
2018-07-06 19:03
#457
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Ukraine sadhasj22 
no untill the time ua joins eu n o t s o o n
2018-07-11 09:58
#16
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Bangladesh bedtime 
people just dont care and call anything east of germany CIS lul
2018-07-06 19:04
Even Bangladesh?
2018-07-06 19:10
#31
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Bangladesh bedtime 
it is east of germany so i guess
2018-07-06 19:11
Well.
2018-07-06 19:22
ukraine is a giant pussy, and putin is putting his big russian dick in it
2018-07-06 19:04
#131
swag | 
Ukraine Mr_Tek 
Tells guy from where?
2018-07-06 20:17
Marocco
2018-07-07 01:59
#373
swag | 
Ukraine Mr_Tek 
thank you captain obvious
2018-07-07 13:28
Ukraine withdrew its associate membership in 2018, but Ukraine and ukranians still suck huge kenis
2018-07-06 19:04
You just capt obious, I would like to see you after almost 300 of occupation, opression, rusification, etc etc etc....
2018-07-06 22:13
It doesn't matter, because goverment in CIS countries sucks (especially in Ukraine)
2018-07-07 05:14
again, no wonder cuz most of them come from ussr times.
2018-07-07 09:25
#20
rain | 
Norway IndiZone 
"It is a member of the United Nations since its founding, the Council of Europe, OSCE, GUAM, and one of the founding states of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS)." Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine
2018-07-06 19:05
Founding doesn't make u a member.
2018-07-06 19:07
#33
rain | 
Norway IndiZone 
Delete this
2018-07-06 19:12
Why?
2018-07-06 19:17
#222
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Ukraine XFESTER 
U doesn't know the something about the League of Nations, that was created by USA, but USA wasn't member of this.
2018-07-06 21:31
ukraine is poor
2018-07-10 13:16
Yeah ukraine isnt CIS ukraine is russia. /close
2018-07-06 19:06
Not yet, but you're right, it will happen some later.
2018-07-06 19:14
Even after 2014?
2018-07-06 19:43
Yes. Ukraine just need to get rid of this bandera shit and join Russia.
2018-07-06 19:54
Rofl, clearly someone that knows nothing about Ukraine. There is no way a pro-russian trash gets to parliament.
2018-07-06 20:01
Ok, we'll see.
2018-07-06 20:12
Delusional imperialistic pig, rofl.
2018-07-06 20:20
We'll see.
2018-07-06 21:23
just katzap
2018-07-06 22:39
But Ukraine is Russia wtf?
2018-07-06 19:08
#66
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Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
But canada is USA WTF???
2018-07-06 19:37
Wrong. Canada is more of Great Britain than USA kind of country. And if I’m not wrong, Elizabeth is nominally leader of Canada. But I’m most likely wrong UPD. Apparently, I was right. Elizabeth II is Canada’s monarch but country is being ruled by senate
2018-07-06 21:07
ok 0_o
2018-07-07 12:22
#27
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Germany YarrakJunior 
what is CIS i swear i never heard this word. ukraine is in europe and russia is in europe too. maybe CIS is a region in russia but russia is a european country too. just look at the map
2018-07-06 19:10
Russia is pretty big. From Europe to USA.
2018-07-06 19:11
#37
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Germany YarrakJunior 
yea but the capital is in europe and the most people living in the western side.
2018-07-06 19:13
Moscow is as European as Syria is :D Corruption levels, location, and level of democracy is on par with other shit holes in same east to west location. Great countries like Saudi-Arabia, Turkmenistan, Iraq, Iran, Somalia etc.
2018-07-06 19:36
#181
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Bulgaria goatse 
pls source
2018-07-06 20:49
European in terms of geography and demographics -_- Not in terms of good living
2018-07-06 21:09
Geography? Moscow is east from Istanbul. Asian country.
2018-07-06 22:33
#421
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
You should learn basic geography and borders od Europe/Asia which I thought most Europeans learn at least until they're 13-14.
2018-07-10 07:39
Russia is mostly Asian. Have you ever seen a map?
2018-07-10 14:49
#439
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
You said Moscow is east from Istanbul as an explanation. Moscow is within borders of Europe.
2018-07-10 15:55
Nope. Its Asia to everyone else but xenophobic ruskies with bad hair cuts.
2018-07-10 20:04
There is more Russian land in Asia than Europe, correct but the point is, the large majority of the Russian population live in Europe.
2018-07-10 16:25
they are not russians, they are moscovites. They are impostors. Real name of so called "russia" is Moscovia. In 16th century chingizid Ivan the Terrible 4 - tzar of Moscovia made genocide of north part of former part of Kyiv state or Rus, Rusia, mistakenly known as Kyivan Rus nowadays. Then moscovites killed thousands of slavs and made first deportations of people. Despot, maniak and sadist Ivan moved thousands of slavic people of Great Novgorod to Moscovia and thousands of moscovites to Great Novgorod land. Same happend with Pskov land and Smolensk land. That was last parts of medieval Kyiv state. People of those lands speken slavonic language similar to Ukrainian and more similar to Bilorusian. That wasnt modern "russian". People of moscovia knew literaly few dozens of slavic words then. And were totally not written unlike Ukrainians and Bilorusians. Moscovites were absolutely different in terms of culture, traditions, lifestyle, mindset and antropology. Absolute magority of them were fino-ugric tribes mixed with tatars. After Ivan 4 invaded north slavic lands of former Kyiv state he gradually started to set as goal to collect all lands of former Kyiv state. Later in 18th century Peter 1 occupied half of territory of modern Ukraine. Then moscovites began to "write" history of Russia as their state Moscovia was legal successor of medieval Kyiv state. They destroyed a lot of real documents and falsify the rest in their favour. Nowadays Kremlin continue to fasify history of Ukraine in favour of Moscovia.
2018-07-10 17:38
ok
2018-07-10 17:57
CIS = Confederation of Independent Systems. a faction in the Star Wars galaxy
2018-07-06 19:13
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_In.. Ex USSR countries. Eastern European EU or British commonwealth I think Ukraine helped found it but withdrew 2018 cus Crimea
2018-07-06 20:40
#41
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Denmark jjh 
Ukraine is whatever Russia says it is
2018-07-06 19:17
Denmark is whatever my dog says it is
2018-07-06 19:35
#101
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Denmark jjh 
your dog is your mother
2018-07-06 20:06
nt putin go axaxa
2018-07-06 22:31
#42
kennyS | 
Russia Ph1l1pp 
Ukraine will always be CIS /close
2018-07-06 19:18
> Has never been > Always be CIS
2018-07-06 19:22
#50
kennyS | 
Russia Ph1l1pp 
How did u find hltv? U Don't know how to use google
2018-07-06 19:24
I have used imagination.
2018-07-06 22:20
1. Ukraine has never been a CIS member. Yeah right ussr much ? Remember ?
2018-07-06 19:24
I have never been an ussr citizen. USSA is not CIS. I cant remember.
2018-07-06 19:27
#70
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Ukraine XFESTER 
USSA??????????????????????????????
2018-07-06 19:39
#71
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Ukraine XFESTER 
United Soviet States of Argentina?
2018-07-06 19:39
U know what i meant.
2018-07-06 19:41
#214
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Ukraine XFESTER 
Maybe USSR?
2018-07-06 21:21
Yes.
2018-07-06 21:21
Attention! Ukraine was not member of ussr! Ukraine was occupated by moscovia and in 1991 resumed its independence!
2018-07-06 22:42
Still it's moscow. And Moscow is and was Russian capital so nt
2018-07-06 23:23
I think you've been granted the independence and you've willingly joined USSR, brainwashed
2018-07-09 09:22
Good notice bro. Promoting porn however doesn’t make you honor ;)
2018-07-06 19:34
Thx. I just like porn.
2018-07-06 19:41
#68
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Ukraine XFESTER 
Ukraine Empire*
2018-07-06 19:38
Vassal*
2018-07-06 19:40
Have I ask to call Ukraine an Empire? Don't be such a dumb.
2018-07-06 19:41
No, Ukraine is not impire, stop be navi fan, this is shame imgur.com/PojH7mN
2018-07-06 22:44
#78
mir | 
Ukraine inigod 
cis founders: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus lul.
2018-07-06 19:44
#81
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Ukraine VGamer7743 
+1
2018-07-06 19:48
Ukraine is founder, but is not a member. What a dumb.
2018-07-06 19:57
#96
mir | 
Ukraine inigod 
Changes anything? Still corruption is a widespread problem, like in any cis country. Reality mate.
2018-07-06 20:03
I know Ukraine still trash. I just ask about CIS membership.
2018-07-06 20:04
#110
mir | 
Ukraine inigod 
No one cares about trash country - thread makes no sense
2018-07-06 20:09
Its still happening becuase of ties with moscovia. In goverment and in society also, You are one of them since you support mir - its just one little ilustation. Get out from moscow if you wanna succses for Ukraine. In all possible ways and sences. Turn on you brain and look to your heart.
2018-07-06 22:46
#422
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
If you would turn on your brain or had something close to it you wouldn't be a brainwashed nationalist that believes in every fairy tell nationalist propaganda tells you :D We have some people like you who actually believe people who collaborated with nazis in 2nd WW were poor victims.
2018-07-10 07:44
back off scum
2018-07-10 07:51
Ok so what is ukraine
2018-07-06 19:59
Ukraine is Ukraine. Not Russia, or CIS memeber.
2018-07-06 20:01
So not russia???
2018-07-06 20:06
I guess.
2018-07-06 20:07
Ukraine is part of europian nations.
2018-07-06 22:47
Haha, keep on dreaming Russia's doll
2018-07-09 09:24
#94
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Poland LucaS04 
i know this feeling ukrainian brother! Ukraine is not Cis!
2018-07-06 20:02
Thx, my friend. I am glad to see poles dont's live in the past any more.
2018-07-06 20:05
#100
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Poland LucaS04 
+1
2018-07-06 20:06
ukraina is not real country axaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2018-07-06 20:02
Hope its trolling.
2018-07-06 20:07
nope real story bro LUL axaxaxa
2018-07-06 20:10
Well.
2018-07-06 20:11
No, it's a cruel reality. :D
2018-07-06 21:31
dont shame Ukraine, why you even talk to them? and stop watching porn, damn!
2018-07-06 22:48
#98
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Russia armando_o 
dymitro dolboebich please relog
2018-07-06 20:05
Omg, I am not spreading pro ukrainian propaganda. I know about problems here. I have asked about simple thing. But u still such a dumb.
2018-07-06 20:06
#106
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Russia armando_o 
toofaced dymitro) next level
2018-07-06 20:08
Nevermind.
2018-07-06 20:08
#109
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Russia armando_o 
or two? bad londinium
2018-07-06 20:08
Londinium *facepalm*
2018-07-06 21:12
#317
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Russia armando_o 
-_\ Reply needs to have actual content
2018-07-06 23:03
kozlomorda shval, idy v dupu
2018-07-06 22:49
#314
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Russia armando_o 
kek
2018-07-06 23:02
#107
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Ukraine speecher 
I agree ++++10000
2018-07-06 20:08
#111
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
Yes. Need to get rid of this misleading title. Just call it eastern europe or russian-speaking region.
2018-07-06 20:09
Ukraine is not totally russian speaking.
2018-07-06 20:11
#117
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
I know, but we need a term to refer to the whole region and Ukrainian players usually play in Russian-speaking teams.
2018-07-06 20:12
Russian-speaking region sounds ok. RSR.
2018-07-06 20:14
Russia is not totally russian-speaking either
2018-07-06 20:15
Good one
2018-07-06 20:48
Its not 'katzapian -speakin"! Stop eat kremlin shit! Waht a disgarace! mojority of Ukrainians speak Ukrainians.,, more amd more Ukrainians switch to lanuage of their native land - Ukrainian!
2018-07-06 22:51
#327
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
Not in CS teams.
2018-07-06 23:26
#112
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Germany slyyf 
Actually educational topic on hltv, wow. I always thought UA was a member of CIS.
2018-07-06 20:10
nobody cares lul
2018-07-06 20:11
Some ages ago nobody cared about black ppl or women. But what do we see now?
2018-07-06 20:12
what do we see now?
2018-07-06 20:25
Nevermind.
2018-07-06 20:27
Now we see that damn SJWs took over everything
2018-07-06 21:13
Ukraine is Russia XDDD
2018-07-06 20:12
Russia is Ukraine
2018-07-06 20:12
true
2018-07-06 20:12
#134
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Ukraine Samdi 
+1
2018-07-06 20:18
Russia is shit
2018-07-06 20:58
#221
FYRR73 | 
Latvia Syecr 
So is ukraine
2018-07-06 21:30
Do you think russia is better? Did you learn history? Like ussr was occupated your country.
2018-07-06 23:14
#326
FYRR73 | 
Latvia Syecr 
I do. I did. I dont give any single fuck about that part of history
2018-07-06 23:25
you are wright in terms of hostory of Ukraine. But not in presence. In presence there is strange shit mistakenly called "russia" which has a such relation to middle age Rus (Rusia, Ruthenia) =Kyiv state like Guinea pig to sea.
2018-07-06 22:55
u never getting tired at this bullshittery xDD Pathetic.
2018-07-06 22:57
I never get tired to say truth, your lie is pathetic
2018-07-06 23:09
on CS forum xD
2018-07-06 23:10
ukraine is a village in Russia
2018-07-06 20:13
#344
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Ukraine  Pasha 
Fucking retard
2018-07-07 01:56
stupid kid
2018-07-07 12:29
#424
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Rekt xD Loled so hard at this
2018-07-10 07:47
#124
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
stfu bandera )
2018-07-06 20:13
Have I written about Bandera?
2018-07-06 20:15
who care
2018-07-06 20:15
So why does he call me Bandera. Any sense?
2018-07-06 20:16
#143
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
I want you to call SBU, cuz i love Putin )
2018-07-06 20:21
I dont like SBU. No worries.
2018-07-06 20:38
#130
NEO | 
Russia melelele 
finally... nazis to nazi europe
2018-07-06 20:16
#149
swag | 
Ukraine Mr_Tek 
zieg?..
2018-07-06 20:23
Not like ths, plz.
2018-07-06 20:39
Ukraine is a state that founded CIS. According to wiki It was founded on 8 December 1991 by the Byelorussia SSR, the Russian SFSR, and the Ukraine SSR.
2018-07-06 20:18
> Founder > Member
2018-07-06 20:19
Founding state is even more significant than just a member. Theres a relation to CIS albeit in the past, and u cant erase it. So calling u CIS is in some way justifiable.
2018-07-06 20:23
But Ukraine has never ratified a CIS charter. Founding this was kinda friendly move after USSR past. Nothing special.
2018-07-06 20:26
Its technicalities :)
2018-07-06 20:28
Guy can cum into a grill and make a baby later. But he is not its official father, just biological one. The kid can get another father.
2018-07-06 20:37
Russia cummed into Belarussia and made Ukraine But Russia is not ita official father, just biological one Ukraine can get another father (EU) This is how i understood this
2018-07-06 22:35
#425
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
OMEGALUL Finland <3 this comment xDD
2018-07-10 07:48
LMAO
2018-07-11 12:37
what an idiot
2018-07-11 12:54
okay propagandist
2018-07-11 13:32
Propaganda is what kremlin do. Ukrainians just respond and sometimes attack. In fact Im sure we should do it much more active, out state do not enough in info space. I can tell u even more- almost all countires make propaganda in their way. But kremlin just make politic of complete desinfomation, just say lies almost all the time. Its moscovitian tradition since 18th century at least. And what did u expect, that Ukrainians just would keep silince, just watching silently how kremlin talk lies about Ukraine again and again?
2018-07-11 15:21
I just gave my opinion on Pornhubs reply, and u call me idiot? kremlin? You know that i dont live in Russia, i dont watch Russian news, i dont care if guy is ukrainian or russian.. but you try to give all the time ur shit propaganda, like ur doing now no point for me to talk with you, ur gonna start talking shit again lmao /closed
2018-07-11 15:22
#133
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Dominican Republic asdawda 
for me CIS countries are the ones that use cyrylic and similar language to russian
2018-07-06 20:18
#140
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Bulgaria kr9ptonn 
so Bulgaria is CIS for you? nice logic you got there
2018-07-06 20:20
#146
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Dominican Republic asdawda 
I knew that some bulgarian or some serbian guy will reply me, CIS for me = countries that are pretty similar to russia ( cyrylics, same region, culture, gopniks etc. ) sounds better?
2018-07-06 20:22
Mongolia use cyrillic too.
2018-07-06 20:20
#147
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Dominican Republic asdawda 
#146
2018-07-06 20:23
Will better countries that can speak Russian, but dont have it officialy (like Kazakhstan, Belarus, Ukraine, Kirgistan and same)
2018-07-06 20:57
Its correct to say 'russian' is a bit simlar to other slavic languages incl Ukrainian - main slavic language.. Cuz russian can be harldy called slavic at all.
2018-07-06 22:59
Russian language is original, you created your own little history out of clay, little nazi
2018-07-09 09:29
#426
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Can you be this stupid xD Russian is like the mother language to all Slavic languages and Ukrainian can maybe be called a dialect of Russian. Never it's own language.
2018-07-10 07:50
you ARE brainwashed by russian propaganda, uneducated leftie moron, back off scum. You know shit about Ukrainian language and Ukraine on th whole.
2018-07-10 07:53
#429
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
You are the brainwashed guy, but no point telling you that cause you will do some mind gymnastics and call everyone else brainwashed :D
2018-07-10 07:54
Idiot, why you laughing all the time? Its not funny to be such dumb moron at all! Only completely brainwashed by russian propaganda leftie scum could type shit like you did about russian language! Get out if here clown!
2018-07-10 07:58
it is russian who is simlar a bit to other slavic languages. you read some shit in sime pro-russian source and now think you know everything about slavs... And here in hltv probalby 60-70% of such like you. Pathetic.
2018-07-11 15:23
ukraine is super duper gay just like russia two big gay countries :^D Also when most people refer to CIS they're referring to it as a geographical region
2018-07-06 20:19
CIS geographical region doesn't even exist. Also EU could be European Union and Europe. That is not the same.
2018-07-06 20:22
#156
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
wow, you so smart omg ( not ) shodi zigu zakin paru razkov - mojet polegchayet, pidriot ebanii )
2018-07-06 20:28
Debil.
2018-07-06 20:31
#164
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Povtorish IRL? ) SIn svin'i ) Krivoi Rog 0965133166
2018-07-06 20:34
Sin Svin'i its ur name? Unlucky.
2018-07-06 20:35
Krivorojskiy skam v trede
2018-07-06 20:56
#381
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
V lico eto mne povtorish, pidorok? )
2018-07-07 18:48
Lol, eshe v etot govnogorod ya ne ehal poluchit pizdi ot mestnogo obrigana.
2018-07-07 18:50
#385
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Oh lol, samoye smeshnoye 4to ti daje v svoyem otvete priznal, 4to ti opizposhishsya ;)))) Davno tak ne rjal ) A po povodu moeygo rodnogo goroda - kto bi pizdel, sin muka4evskogo ebanata ? 0965133166 Ya vsegda dostupen dlya togo 4tobi vipizdit tebya, hohlosvinya ebanaya )
2018-07-07 20:21
I like you! +1 But don't beat me
2018-07-09 09:31
#412
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Lul I won't =)
2018-07-10 07:13
Are you Ukrainian yourself? So sad to see separation of the people within seemingly the same area of living. Don't let yourself be brainwashed, we think you're retarded but we also think that you're all the same and stay together
2018-07-10 07:15
#414
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Maidan basically brainwashed half of population of our so called "ukraine" and turn this people into subhumans. All our media is a joke. All our politics is a fucking half nazis which blames putin and Russia in all problems. Sad to see normal people that had to survive in this shithole. Yes i am ukrainian from Krivoy Rog.
2018-07-10 07:22
Stay strong, sooner or later it will end and I'm not saying that Russia will conquer you, but honestly I think it would be better for you if you were the part of Russia, much easier to live and friends all around
2018-07-10 07:24
#431
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
+1 my friend This place would be much better with Russia or at least without this brainless, stupid ATO
2018-07-10 10:17
typical toxic katzapian-speaking navi fan. Such like you are the biggest problem of Ukraine.
2018-07-06 23:02
#386
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
OMG And you are typical hohlopidor )) And there is nothing to do with that. Fucking imbecil na podpitke u tsn Go watch navalnii, or fap to c14, mrazota) Sin blyadi )
2018-07-07 20:42
#138
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
as i know,Ukraine is a part of CIS region in cs go,dota 2 and other cybersport disciplines
2018-07-06 20:20
#142
mir | 
Ukraine inigod 
stupid humans
2018-07-06 20:22
#144
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
english please
2018-07-06 20:21
He was referring to hooman beans (homosapiens) (homo species)
2018-07-06 20:24
Ukraine Its Russia Region like Tatarstan or Udmurt
2018-07-06 20:23
#157
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United Kingdom Quicks 
Same as Switzerland is part of Germany, like Bavaria?
2018-07-06 20:28
yes
2018-07-06 20:42
no, you know a shit about real Ukraine
2018-07-06 23:02
He baited you so easily lol
2018-07-10 07:35
stfu
2018-07-06 20:55
Russian speaking region/community as far as cs go is concerned
2018-07-06 20:26
Ukraine was a part of the CCCP that's why related to CIS!
2018-07-06 20:31
It doesn't work like this.
2018-07-06 20:36
its so funny that you Ukrainian guys take this so serious hahaha whole CIS countries hates Ukraine atleast a lot of people
2018-07-06 20:33
Hate for what?
2018-07-06 20:36
all Ukrainian guys i've met in real life were toxic and conceited
2018-07-06 21:42
Could be.
2018-07-06 21:44
Where they were from? What part of Ukraine?
2018-07-07 19:24
How should i know where they from i was on Kyiv in the airport and there they were already so cucky
2018-07-07 19:28
ofc, vatniks hate Ukraine
2018-07-06 23:04
I hate only politics..
2018-07-06 23:24
unfortunetely for you, you will be just Russian region in european heads. So sad for you
2018-07-06 20:36
Once they got this. I hope.
2018-07-06 20:37
but why you care about that? They call us CIS, cuz it's shorter than "ex-USSR country". I don't really care about that.
2018-07-06 20:42
U don't, cuz Russia is bigger and stronger.
2018-07-06 20:44
CIS member states + CIS founding state (which is Ukraine) = CIS for short /Close
2018-07-06 20:49
Not a CIS member.
2018-07-06 20:51
#206
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North America hiqb8s 
Definitely not EU either. Dutch votes said no to Ukraine membership. many countries have large majorities against further expansion. EU will collapse 10 times sooner than Ukraine joins it
2018-07-06 21:09
Ukraine is not European Union member. You are right. But we are associated with European Union. And we are able to be in EU just with ukrainian passport, without visas. Everything is possible. But i didn't ask to call Ukraine as European Union member.
2018-07-06 21:15
#322
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North America hiqb8s 
And we are able to be in EU just with ukrainian passport. u lack self respect to talk like that. "i didn't ask to call Ukraine as European Union member" what r u talking about. u r acting like cuck, bending and begging to be pretend EU.
2018-07-06 23:21
#366
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
u dumb as fuck, he never said anything about ukraine being in the eu. He said that it's not CIS. Learn english plz.
2018-07-07 09:31
Of course Ukraine isn't CIS, but all ukrainians players talk Russian and countries who was in USSR and speak russian have to be in one CS region, but in another name (not a CIS). I think PUCTR is good name (Past USSR Countries Talk Russian).
2018-07-06 20:54
RU hub :)
2018-07-06 20:59
yeah same good
2018-07-06 21:00
Ehm...What do you suggest then? Enroll UA to Europe? Don't you realise it's a bullshit?
2018-07-06 21:00
Why do you even care? lol
2018-07-06 21:02
Cuz u dont.
2018-07-06 21:02
why does someone should care about it? like the fact that some american bois will know that Saloland is not in CIS would change smth
2018-07-06 21:05
If don't care, than why do u still here?
2018-07-06 21:06
too boring, i'd rather be arguing with some xoxol boys than watching how G2 got fucked by some nazis
2018-07-06 21:08
Thats a reason.
2018-07-06 21:16
worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/cis.htm "At its conception it consisted of ten former Soviet Republics: Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan." "Ukraine" 0 IQ rooski brain only knows how to rush b xdddd
2018-07-06 21:18
Nice source. 200 IQ.
2018-07-06 21:20
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_In.. care for another? they literally withdrew 2 months ago but of course, they have nothing to do with CIS whatsoever go back to being russia's bitch, tier 1000 country
2018-07-06 21:23
They withdrew a month ago. Cuz it was uselss membership. They didn't even take a part in CIS since it was founded. Something like u had joined 'no fap club' in the elementary school, but u had never been at the meeting.
2018-07-06 21:27
#241
Jame | 
Canada Vypere 
But the fact that they withdrew 2 months ago means they were part of it? I don't understand. The fact is a lot of Ukrainians, all the cs:go players, commentators, streamers are fine with the CIS tag, so why should people listen to you? Until all of these people will take action to protest nothing will happen. But as I know, none of the Ukrainian players have problems with this.
2018-07-06 21:44
Your school had a no fap club too?
2018-07-07 00:20
#218
LeX | 
Russia mddn 
CIS is just name for our countries (ex-USSR) in cybersport
2018-07-06 21:25
No sense.
2018-07-06 21:28
#235
LeX | 
Russia mddn 
convenience
2018-07-06 21:40
ok putin
2018-07-06 21:31
Expected from russian puppet.
2018-07-06 21:32
expected from stolen land of Russia
2018-07-06 21:48
#225
Jame | 
Canada Vypere 
You're approaching this argument from the wrong side. What should Natus Vincere flair be called for example? Ukrainian-Russian team? And have flair like team Liquid "Canadian-American" flag (Ukrainian-Russian here)? Like it or not, some things are not formal but stay in the culture, when the CIS players themselves call their scene CIS, they include Ukraine. Just like most people don't even bother acknowledging Ex6stence or Scream as "Belgium" scene, because really they are part of the bigger French scene, They think so themselves otherwise they would protest. It's not politically correct, but it is clearly to the wish of players/organizations etc. and it will be like this until they themselves don't want it, it has nothing to do with people here.
2018-07-06 21:31
navit' z sng viperli
2018-07-06 21:34
Tobi treba snd?
2018-07-06 21:35
tobi treba pornhub?
2018-07-06 21:36
Tam porno.
2018-07-06 21:37
nu ta hui z toboyu
2018-07-06 21:37
who cares about shithole ukraine
2018-07-06 21:36
Ur tsar Putin.
2018-07-06 21:38
lul when someone calls your country shithole just call him a putin's slave xaxaxa
2018-07-06 22:07
Am i wrong?
2018-07-06 22:24
xaxaxa
2018-07-06 22:26
the CIS was created with the leader from Ukraine being a part of it, and now you try to argue it's not CIS LOL. EU education btw.
2018-07-06 21:41
Be a founder doesn't make u a member. Oh, god. Also Ukraine has never ratified a CIS charter.
2018-07-06 21:45
you are the best ukrainian baiter i've ever seen lol.
2018-07-06 21:41
Vladik69 and Dmytro_UKR did it better.
2018-07-06 21:46
vladik is autistic and Dmytro? Idk who is this guy. But you actually have a point that's why it triggers people.
2018-07-06 21:48
Dmytro forcing propaganda about Russia.
2018-07-06 21:53
#249
Jame | 
Canada Vypere 
He's a master baiter clearly based on his username.
2018-07-06 21:50
ok Putin
2018-07-06 21:50
No.
2018-07-06 21:52
yes
2018-07-06 21:52
Nice Erdogan electorat.
2018-07-06 21:53
Nice Putin's sex toy.
2018-07-06 23:44
#276
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Russia foggy54 
The thing is that people often use CIS as an equivalent of geographical area included ex-USSR republics. But officially CIS = political organization, which doesnt include many former USSR members. I can imagine why this question is so important for topic starter, but believe me, for Russians it is not so. Nobody here considers CIS as a real organization, rather it is some rudiment of "ancient times" for us. Anyway its clear that we need other term for geographical region which will be simple enough and reflect the actual situation. Actually I believe better call this region just "Eastern Europe and central Asia" (EECA) how do you like it ?
2018-07-06 22:10
Russian Speaking Region -- RSR.
2018-07-06 22:14
so you want us to associate Ukraine as part of EU? HAHAHAHAHA
2018-07-06 22:25
No.
2018-07-07 02:13
#287
NBK- | 
Russia Shurnd 
agreed
2018-07-06 22:25
#297
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Russia vasian 
i hope one day they will stop it. This is a big shame for all CIS countries, especially for Russia.
2018-07-06 22:43
#300
JW | 
United States kingjeff 
"borderland" is not a country, it is 1/2 polish land and 1/2 russian land
2018-07-06 22:45
ukraine=russia except that ukrainians are even more toxic and retarded in mm
2018-07-06 22:47
#306
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Kazakhstan inDigazzZ 
cis.minsk.by/index.php?id=2 At the same time, official documents on Ukraine's withdrawal from the CIS in the Executive Committee have not yet been received. "Ukraine's non-participation in integration cooperation in the CIS is unprofitable for Ukraine and other countries of the Commonwealth, and we continue to advocate that it return to our family," Sergei Lebedev said.
2018-07-06 22:48
#328
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Moldova B3A5Ty 
i respect you dude , my country unfornately dies in such a community xD
2018-07-06 23:35
Thx, my friend.
2018-07-07 01:59
#346
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Finland JKS_IS_A_GOD 
Well it still is a shitty slav country so idgaf
2018-07-07 01:56
Probably.
2018-07-07 02:07
#347
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Ukraine  Pasha 
Slava ukraine
2018-07-07 01:57
Wrong! Shame on you! Its correct to say "Slava Ukraini!"
2018-07-07 02:08
Don't be such a dumb.
2018-07-07 02:21
zemlya pukhom bratishka iz za takikh kak ti vi i v zhope
2018-07-07 11:23
#387
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
+1
2018-07-08 05:46
iz za takih kak ti vi v zhope
2018-07-08 05:47
#389
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
ahahahaha idi otliji joppu vide hohlouyebok )
2018-07-09 06:53
poplach :D
2018-07-09 15:16
#405
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Debil s ukroflagom i s tegom horvatii 4to mojet bit pe4alnee? ) Sin obossanoi muka4evskoi blyadi) A gde ruina na etom 4empe? s kem igrayet? ah da - ya zabil, hohlopidori daje ne vishli )))))))))))))))))))))))))))
2018-07-09 21:55
poplach, mojet legche stanet, internet heroy :D
2018-07-09 22:12
#408
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
0965133166 V lyuboye vremya zvoni ) Ya v otli4iye ot tebya, sina maidana, za svoi slova gotov otvetit. Mrazota hohlouyebskaya )
2018-07-10 06:55
Remove the flag, dumb fuck. You either live in Russia, or are completely retarded. Either way, you don't deserve to have it by your nickname.
2018-07-11 13:11
I just ignore it, I think its just clinical vatnik case.
2018-07-11 15:12
This scum so easy talk shit about someoen`s mother like a typical katzap, so its just impossible to even try to talk to him after that. Since I cant hit him at least in his ugly face right now.
2018-07-11 15:14
#483
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Oh you cant hit me, ukrainian little puppy? You are too scared to go outside, and have a real life besides of posting 24/7 baiting posts on hltv with your brother imbecil vladik, hmm you little puppy? Your mom must be really proud of you. You have no ability to punch me in the face, hmm? I already gave you my number, so whats the problem, you little scared puppy ?) Fu**ing na*i that spends all his time on hltv... Wtf is wrong with you ? Get a life, go "kin zigu" or do something, pathetic nolifer.
2018-07-18 11:30
#482
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Oh come on Like really? Some little kid would give me advices to what to do ?) This flag dont deserve me, but hltv asked from where i am. I am from Ukraine. What else you want to know? Retard is a son your father, btw Lateeer.
2018-07-18 11:29
Please, learn English before trying to talk to me, russian piece of shit.
2018-07-19 13:17
#497
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Please go "kin at least one ziga" before entering hltv, so your parents will be very proud of you ) 0965133166 Anytime you pathetic piece of nonexistent country. Lateer, bandera )
2018-07-19 15:07
Ohhhh ahaha If that’s actually your number, that’s a huge fucking mistake you just did there
2018-07-19 17:52
#501
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
i want to see consequences please! report SBU, u fu**ing pussies! do something! i am waiting ! =)))
2018-07-19 19:09
#503
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
it is my real number do something, piece of bandera s*um&ags ) !
2018-07-19 19:07
not a cis member and never be in EU EleGiggle
2018-07-09 06:55
#391
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Bulgaria LorDDemoniC 
Ukraine and Kazahstan are old BULGARIAN territory ,...
2018-07-09 06:56
wow
2018-07-19 13:24
Dunno if it's CIS or not but it's not EU for sure. You belong to Russia btw
2018-07-09 07:01
#395
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Of course. Ukraine is a "SHITHOLE" territory.
2018-07-09 07:02
Maybe that's why Russia doesn't even want it 🤔
2018-07-09 09:06
#411
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Ukraine dashbug 
lmao russia is worse
2018-07-10 07:10
#394
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Brazil j9ngle 
Who is mr. Putin??
2018-07-09 07:01
Orno,shto sredi vseh otvetov tolko max.10 chelovek ne russkogovoryashie
2018-07-09 09:26
lol
2018-07-10 07:28
#403
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Russia og_loc 
nezalezhnost'. bratik, ukraina byla chastiu rossiyskoi imperii. otdelilas ona tolko posle raspada sssr. sorry
2018-07-09 09:31
#406
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United States 7777 
they speak russian - theyre cis idi spat bratella
2018-07-09 21:57
they were in CIS until earlier this year
2018-07-10 07:00
#410
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Ukraine dashbug 
They have never been in CIS. Ukraine didn't ratified covenant
2018-07-10 07:09
nice govno na ventilyator brosaete
2018-07-10 14:50
MOLDOVA IS NOT CIS
2018-07-10 15:01
I am glad to hear this.
2018-07-10 23:20
#441
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Russia sneakyboy 
doesnt matter, ukr is same as any CIS country omegalul
2018-07-10 15:57
No dictator, sorry.
2018-07-10 23:09
#444
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Russia neologin 
ukraine, nobody cares about your contry. keep cry.
2018-07-10 16:23
Apparently you do, since you replied to his post.
2018-07-10 23:26
#484
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
+1
2018-07-18 11:32
Rather be associated with CIS than with the Merkelreich
2018-07-10 23:25
Rather be associated with strong independent successful country, and for sure not with any fake orgs like "cis". Dont you feel extreme cynicism in this three letters?!
2018-07-11 09:48
Rather not be associated with any orgs actually.
2018-07-11 11:56
Well, anyone can be completely isolated nowadays, specially Ukraine. We still need a lot of support and its absolutely reasonable. There is nothing shameful in it at all.
2018-07-11 12:33
Not from the EU. If you still think that EU/NATO is a good diea look at Sweden or Germany. It is a terrible idea. International organisations bring little good. Whether it's CIS, EU or whatever. Development might take a little longer, but sometimes caution takes priority.
2018-07-11 12:42
#463
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Denmark C0nd1 
Ok, mr. PIGashenko
2018-07-11 12:44
#464
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Kazakhstan TimaTea 
Better for Ukraine
2018-07-11 12:47
lal who cares
2018-07-11 13:12
#469
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Czech Republic LIFTY! 
So what is your point? If you are a E union member you should play EU qual.? So what about teams which are not in E union such as norway? What qual. should they play?
2018-07-11 13:14
Slava Ukraine
2018-07-11 13:18
#485
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Geroyam Sala!
2018-07-18 11:32
#491
draken | 
Russia hestz 
kakaya raznica esli ya ebal vash rot?
2018-07-19 06:20
#498
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
Whats about Dimasta ? )
2018-07-19 15:12
#496
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Ukraine VeryNaziGay 
XAXAXAXAXAXAXA NICE TRY STUPIDINHO, U WILL NEVER BE A PART OF EUROPE, DON'T EVEN TRY
2018-07-19 13:24
#499
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Ukraine Bizkid58 
+1
2018-07-19 15:12
#502
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Denmark Xipingu 
And a potato is not a strawberry. No one fucking cares
2018-07-19 19:01
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