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Gla1ve or karrigan
Thorin | 
Denmark NeXal 
witch one is the best igl In your opinion
2018-07-13 02:46
ofc gla1ve
2018-07-13 02:47
Depends on what type of players you have, they have two different styles that are equally viable
2018-07-13 02:47
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cyx | 
Sweden DeIpan 
no shieT , karrigan was tsm igl with dupreeh device and x9 , compare achievements... /close
2018-07-13 02:56
I think he played a part in shaping those players into who they are now and it's not really fair to compare the achievements of device xyp and dupreeh from 2015 and 2018 because so many factors are different
2018-07-13 04:07
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cyx | 
Sweden DeIpan 
man , i think that faze players > astralis right now but there is difference in leading , karrigan have mental barier for winning , everything faze win this year and half its for guardian niko rain not for good leading , they play puggystyle most of time , i bet with different igl faze would be much better...
2018-07-13 04:09
#28
SpawN | 
Latvia Einarslv 
reason they are playing good is because of puggy style you mention it.Its lets star players to do what they want and sometimes it's working out.Sometimes free play style is good when you have team who can frag ,just need to add some little strategies in it without anything complicated .
2018-07-13 04:25
karrigan didnt add any strategies tho and if puggy is good with good fraggers -karrigan +good fragger there is literally no reason whatsoever to keep this n00b in the team
2018-07-13 13:25
Karrigan is the best leader for a team like FaZe, FaZe played without an IGL before and look how that turned out
2018-07-13 13:47
>karrigan >best for anything pick one he has always been shit and he will always be shit
2018-07-13 13:49
Allright then, ignore the facts. It's your life
2018-07-13 13:50
what facts? not winning a major with best roster ever in csgo? i dont ignore them
2018-07-13 13:54
That wasn't solely karrigan's fault, he made some bad calls, but the entire team was choking at that point. You can't blame everything on the IGL.
2018-07-13 14:01
#38
2018-07-13 14:02
It's really not that simple lmao
2018-07-13 14:03
it is you have one of the best awpers ever (guardian) one of the best players ever (olof) one of the most skilled players (niko) one of the best fraggers (rain) they are all very experienced aswell if you can win with this team as their in game LEADER its on you youre not the leader for no reason
2018-07-13 14:05
as stated before they play puggy style where is karrigans contribution then?
2018-07-13 14:05
Just to check, what IGL would you put in FaZe then?
2018-07-13 14:02
anyone but n00bgan sex6tenz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karrigan
2018-07-13 14:03
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GuardiaN | 
North America Gc_29 
both are super good
2018-07-13 02:47
gla1ve >>>>>> karrigan
2018-07-13 02:47
#5
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Germany zeolikk 
gla1ve no doubt lol karrigan is the reason why FaZe lost the major
2018-07-13 02:48
#6
GuardiaN | 
North America Gc_29 
nah they all choked, like always :P
2018-07-13 02:50
#8
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Germany zeolikk 
yea but tbh karrigan was a main factor, just re-watch the game. Terrible calling on the t side which made them lose the game in the end. They always executed on B with around 10-20sec left.
2018-07-13 02:51
#11
GuardiaN | 
North America Gc_29 
They all played like utter shit, so i wouldn't say he was the main factor, the main factor was the mentality
2018-07-13 02:53
#16
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Germany zeolikk 
true too I guess NiKo was pretty damn tilted too
2018-07-13 02:56
#17
GuardiaN | 
North America Gc_29 
yep, but he has grown stronger mentally, he doesn't choke anymore but if they had played better, they would be major champions
2018-07-13 02:59
#29
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Germany zeolikk 
yea he is better now but imo at the time where they played the major he was still choking
2018-07-13 12:52
why do people praise old pronax? because he would timeout and win that ez if your team chokes its on igl
2018-07-13 13:26
#35
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Brazil vladik96 
It was Karrigan's fault. He got under pressure and called 2 B rush on inferno like lets give it a shot if it works we win the major, ridiculous strat they got in 1 by 1 dying for STEWIE2K AWP LOLLLLLLL. if it was a LEM team they would've won it easily. B push without flashbang and trade kill? what was that jesus
2018-07-13 13:23
#13
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Germany Koxky 
the entire team doesnt have good chemistry. I dont think niko fits well into a team with 3 other superstars. if their gameplan doesnt work, they play pug-style, if that doesnt work, they fail. you could see that against big at cologne. first map their strats succeeded and they won, 2nd map they struggled in the end, played puggy but lost because a like big team is to diciplined for such a thing to work and map three they were mentally broken and got sweeped
2018-07-13 02:57
#15
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Germany zeolikk 
yea agree
2018-07-13 02:56
#36
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Brazil vladik96 
+1. Karrigan have good strats but when under pressure he never uses them.
2018-07-13 13:24
#7
s1mple | 
Russia JeeN 
zeus
2018-07-13 02:51
#9
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Turkey lulpump1 
Gla1ve for sure
2018-07-13 02:52
#10
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Russia eVEAr 
Hunden
2018-07-13 02:53
#12
kennyS | 
Belgium SavageO 
glaive all day, what a fucking champ karrigan’s attitude is puke-worthy
2018-07-13 02:53
#18
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Albania owe01 
what a fucking champ, won every tournament where faze was with stand-in.
2018-07-13 03:06
#19
kennyS | 
Belgium SavageO 
Karrigan pulling faze down, glaive uniting astralis. Not talking exclusively about results, merely attitude and general impact
2018-07-13 03:10
#20
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Albania owe01 
where was astralis before olof break? nowhere near faze. oh wait who put astralis/tsm on the map?
2018-07-13 03:35
"gla1ve uniting astralis" LMAO, it's all thanks to zonic not gla1ve. All the tactics, everything is big shoutout to zonic. He does all the job. Respectfully, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-07-13 12:56
#42
kennyS | 
Belgium SavageO 
Sources?
2018-07-13 13:36
depends on what style and players you have
2018-07-13 04:08
depends on the style and players, equally great igls in different ways
2018-07-13 04:08
Karrigan definitly .
2018-07-13 04:10
#26
kennyS | 
United Kingdom Thijo_ 
gla1ve is better at reading opponents and teaching his teammates to spread the leading across the team, while karrigan is better at harnessing talents and turning them into stars overnight with discipline but freedom. Imo gla1ve but it’s probably because I like that style better
2018-07-13 04:11
gla1ve
2018-07-13 04:12
gla1ve ofc.
2018-07-13 12:57
This isn't a good comparison, because their calling styles are fundamentally different. Gla1ve works for Astralis the same reason karrigan does for FaZe: their style suits their respective rosters. Astralis needs more structure and microing, which gla1ve does, but he could never do this in FaZe. Astralis has superb talent, but they are less individualistic, most likely because of how long they've been playing together. Tl:dr both are among the best, their styles are different
2018-07-13 13:04
#33
smooya | 
United Kingdom Johal 
gla1ve is more tactical and has more fragging potential, but if karrigan has a team long enough he can fit to all there play styles and make they play well every match, so both are really good
2018-07-13 13:06
There cannot be any doubt. Gla1ve is a better fragger and also a better in-game leader...
2018-07-13 13:06
#39
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Brazil vladik96 
yeah people misunderstand a lot of things. First of all, ITS NOT BECAUSE OF GLA1VE that Astralis is blowing ever1 out of the blue. They have worked hard to accomplish their game style that they have today, and thats not thanks to gla1ve only. The players changed their way to play. You see dev1ce was one of the best entry killers with the AWP now he just plays safe mode. Magisk was way more agressive, you will never see some1 baiting to get info. their CT side is the best in the world IMO. Counter smoke with smoke every time, i mean they have a reply for everything the enemy will do unless OFC its simple and he will hit a impossible shot and stuff like that. From what i heard from dev1ce its like they have a schedule of training, not like all other teams, that play strats and they train on pug. No, they have like a normal job, its like: 7:30 in the morning, pracc clutch situations, 8 o clock: pracc double nades. 9:30 pracc bombsite push and stuff like that. What i mean is their training regime is different, they put WAY MORE EFFORT than just playing 7 8 hours a day. also thanks to gla1ve started fragging astralis got better too. Before he was not good fragger u could see they were struggling.
2018-07-13 13:30
#40
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Brazil vladik96 
IGLwise IMO gla1ve is better because he can frag and doesnt crack under pressure like karrigan, gla1ve maybe one of the most calm players out there.
2018-07-13 13:31
gla1ve is better, 10000%
2018-07-13 13:35
#46
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Finland Taynz 
Gla1ve 99%
2018-07-13 13:51
#51
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Turkey Thunderball 
Gla1ve no doubt..
2018-07-13 14:02
#54
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Poland rHin00 
They are both great IGLs but i like more karrigan's playstyle
2018-07-13 14:04
#55
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina ERMIN91 
karrigan ofc
2018-07-13 14:04
#57
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Europe H0wLinqDawN 
Gla1ve fs
2018-07-13 14:05
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