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Russia ElectroGOD 
Finally Trump and Putin (USA and Russia) has chance to will be friends. And you hate Trump for this?
2018-07-17 12:06
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Czech Republic realProkda 
tl;dr version of what happened, please?
2018-07-17 12:07
Hi Prokda
2018-07-17 12:08
#42
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Czech Republic realProkda 
I am prokda wtf
2018-07-17 12:33
nt prodka
2018-07-17 12:39
nt prodka
2018-07-17 12:41
"Leftist" scum (they're not leftists, they're just scum) proved yet again that they want everyone and everything to burn to the ground, and complained yet again against good, peaceful measures that doesn't their braindamage narrative of saving the world through collective suicide. Basically they're crying about trump and putin not bombing each other.
2018-07-17 12:34
#125
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Italy beltraM 
<3 Emily
2018-07-17 15:24
3rd world war inc
2018-07-17 12:07
Ahahahah. You made my day
2018-07-17 12:11
World War III releases on steam this fall.
2018-07-17 21:22
ppl already hated trump, your reasoning is false also ur govt = bad ppl who order hacks on eu countries and usa and occupy territory and kill 190 innocent dutch ppl with a missile so thats a good reason to hate russia, no?
2018-07-17 12:09
believe more EU mass media pls :)
2018-07-17 12:14
yeah our media are actually somewhat independent so its only 25% propaganda instead of 80% like in russia. your govt killed 190 ppl from my country. not just dutch or european ppl have proved that. there has been investigation by the eu and by independent news org Bellingcat who came to same conclusion: russian soldiers shot down that plane over ukraine using a russian missile launcher, your govt is fucking lying. and btw fuck you too, innocent ppl died, dickhead. believe more russian mass media pls :)
2018-07-17 12:17
*facepalm* Why the fuck do russian soldiers need to blow fucking innocent plane, tell me? it was on Ukraine territory. - First point. Second point - that plane was simmilar to putin`s (really) and ukrainians missile that one by mistake. And third one - 25% propaganda xD. I am checking hltv and most things u tell about my country is a lying (except toxic kids in mm)
2018-07-17 12:21
because putin wanted to occupy the Krim and making Ukraines airspace declared unsafe was part of that plan. secondly, Putin wanted to blame the Ukraine for this missile attack. Third, he wants the EU to order sanctions against Russia so he can complain on national tv about how everyone hates russians and EU is being really mean to him :( Now, let me tell you something true about your country: Putin and his buddies own everything and they will keep owning everything as long as the Russian people shut themselves out from the rest of the world. you are deliberately letting Putin fuck you in the ass and take all the gas money for a couple more decades. who cares if some politicians get shot and you have barely any media that arent controlled by govt and you dont have any money to spend. at least there is peace.
2018-07-17 12:27
*Third, let me tell you something true about your country: Putin and his buddies own everything and they will keep owning everything as long as the Russian people shut themselves out from the rest of the world.* That`s true, but it`s impossible. There are peole on the streets alrdy not often but there are. *because putin wanted to occupy the Krim* There was referendum and Krim decided to join russia by itself, it was not occupation. And lul fuck me. What did I do? I`m just hltv user. Even if that`s truth about the fucking plane, what did I do xD
2018-07-17 12:28
your soldiers were on the krim already before that referendum was held. most of them probably voted in it.
2018-07-17 12:30
Believe me I was there nobody wanted to stay in Ukraine. I was talking to ppl and that`s truth, that s not mass media, I saw this by my own eyes
2018-07-17 12:33
then why did russia send so many soldiers there if they could get the Krim for free.
2018-07-17 12:36
#78
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Norway AleXeiCS 
Protection, otherwise Catalonia v2
2018-07-17 12:52
thats illegal interference in the autonomous decision making process of ukraine. the concept of national sovereignty. breaking that sovereignty is literally an act of war. russia went to war against the ukraine.
2018-07-17 12:54
+1, you can call it however you want but it's still illegal
2018-07-17 12:58
#119
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Russia neologin 
The Russian military unit is in the Crimea from the Catherine's times. They guard the Russian Navy, which is there under an agreement with Ukraine. Yes, the soldiers participated in the organization of the referendum, but to ensure safety from the Ukrainian nationalists. There was not a single shot, the population in the Crimea was against the revolution in Kiev and other Western cities in Ukraine. And by the way, Crimea got to Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR illegally. And this is a fact
2018-07-17 14:34
double post internet fucked up
2018-07-17 15:23
that one unit stationed at the harbor are the official soldiers. im talking about the guys in the camo outfits without insignia who officially didnt exist. the green men. inb4 "those are ukrainian militia"
2018-07-17 15:23
#127
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Russia neologin 
most of the green men were already there, some were commanded from other military units. Yes, illegally, yes, they took millitary posts by force. There was a revolution in the country. What would have happened if they were not there? Crimeans were against the "new state" and were "traitors" who need to teach a lesson. That is the question. Already only a fool can assert that the Crimean people did not want to Russia and they are under "force" occupation. I do not care about Crimea at all. Why can not you see how it looks from 3th side? Just try to accept a different opinion. After all, people were not killed there, but in Kiev, Odessa, Harkiv, Lviv, etc; yes.
2018-07-17 16:28
I accept that Krimea is part of Russia now, and Russia will have to accept economic sanctions for breaking the rules.
2018-07-17 20:41
#120
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Norway AleXeiCS 
Catalonia was illegal as well, norway freeing from sweden/denmark was illegal as well, USA becomming USA was illegal as well, the popular vote in Crimea was to free themselves from ukraine and become a part in the russian federation and since they voted yes, it is russias responsibility to uphold their safety from that moment.
2018-07-17 15:00
catalonia was illegal and puigdemont is going to jail, as it is spains right as a sovereign nation to deny secession. there was and is no law in ukraine allowing a province to secede by popular vote. occupying crimea even after such a vote is an act of war.
2018-07-17 15:24
#126
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Norway AleXeiCS 
Let's begin with when Crimea first became a part of Ukraine. On 19 February 1954, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR issued a decree on the transfer of the Crimean region of the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR. This Supreme Soviet Decree states that this transfer was motivated by "the commonality of the economy, the proximity, and close economic and cultural relations between the Crimean region and the Ukrainian SSR". basiclly, there was no vote, they gave the land away to Ukraine which is fine and all until you realise there live people there who may of didn't even want to become Ukrainian.. which leads us to-> On March 16, Crimea's government claimed that nearly 96% of those who voted in Crimea supported joining Russia. The vote received no international recognition and, aside from Russia, no country had sent official observers there. On March 17, the Crimean parliament officially declared its independence from Ukraine and requested to join the Russian Federation. which means that in a democratic point of view, this is fully legal since it is a (first ever?) vote without any government throwing the province neither back or forth without the people deciding. Imagine if you lived in Amsterdam and the Netherlands' goverment decided to give away Amsterdam to Turkey which means you are now officially a turkish citizen without there being any vote. It is outrageous, no? the vote comes late, but came nevertheless with an entire 96% vote FOR russia, BY the crimean population.
2018-07-17 15:37
the difference is that when Krimea was transferred to another zone in the USSR, that was a legal decision, and when Russia occupied it again, that was against international and Ukrainian law. You couldve legally gotten it back when Ukraine left the USSR maybe. Im not condemning that you occupied Krimea, maybe ppl there really wanted this. I mostly condemn that your govt. killed 190 innocent Dutch people for no reason. But the occupation is against international law and it sets a dangerous precedent. How long until you invade Belarus? Or Poland? Baltic nations?
2018-07-17 20:40
#133
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Norway AleXeiCS 
I do not know when NORWAY will occupy any other nation, your fear shows the lack of intelligence you may think you have within the topic of discussion as I am not russian and that should of been clear by just looking at my flag, plus by the fact you need to use the "190 dutch people died boo-hoo" arguement again and again. However, it should of legally automaticlly transfered back since it was Russian to begin with and because the USSR dissolved. I do not condemn an illegal occuption, frankly, because there has never been an illegal occuption. They have only secured and protected their interest which is not Crimea, but the population which is 96% "FOR" being a part of the Russian Federation.
2018-07-17 21:21
its not boo hoo, 190 innocent ppl died and we are pretty mad about it. go fuck yourself.
2018-07-17 22:03
#136
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Norway AleXeiCS 
and 20 million russians died to aid in the second world war, your point being?
2018-07-17 22:05
that is so offensive im nog even going to bother. sincerely. from the bottom of my heart. fuck yourself.
2018-07-17 22:15
and about money to spend xD. I was almost in all europe and uae. Dont think I am a bum
2018-07-17 12:35
Not everybody lets putin fuck people. For example, there was telegram conflict. Telegram didn`t give information to gvnt about ppl`s messages and still doesnt do this.
2018-07-17 12:31
free speech is nice but money is more important. putin and friends keep it all for themselves.
2018-07-17 12:38
still bad gvnt is not tre reason to hate the whole country. =/ but most EU guys do that
2018-07-17 12:40
i hate your govt not your country
2018-07-17 12:40
*and btw fuck you too, innocent ppl died, dickhead*
2018-07-17 12:41
yeah that was personal against you because you start talking about propaganda when real people died, thats a dick move. it was not against russians as a group. i respect the russian ppl a lot. you are the only people in europe proud enough to succeed in standing up against your king and attempting communism after ww1. you died to save europe in ww2. you fought against the americans who wouldve probably fucked a lot more up and dropped more atom bombs if there wasnt the fear of russia. i like your mentality as a ppl. very strong. and loyal. but that can also be a weakness when one of your own uses it against you.
2018-07-17 12:44
at least u dont believe that america saved eu in ww2
2018-07-17 12:46
i believe that americans getting involved helped, just like the british cracking enigma (they also shared intel with the russians) but russia paid a greater price for their help
2018-07-17 12:49
americans could help since 1939 but they were waiting who is going to win and started do do smth in 1944 notto let ussr conquer all the eu
2018-07-17 12:53
you can go suck putins dick if you love him so much
2018-07-17 12:43
u stupid cant even understand what I am saying
2018-07-17 12:45
russian calling others stupid ok
2018-07-17 12:47
I`m studying at the university and have enough brain to understand that u are a kid or a stupid one
2018-07-17 12:49
woow university! u must be smart aff 150iq
2018-07-17 12:55
125
2018-07-17 12:55
125iq ?? haha retarded af gtfo
2018-07-17 12:59
U are stupid. Have a good day
2018-07-17 13:01
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Czech Republic dreamARTz 
This is 100% accurate! Its so fucking dumb that most people don’t understand that... They are getting fucked over and still lick putin’s balls, I think at this point they just deserve it. Btw I’m russian, immigrated to CZ 7 years ago and so fucking happy I don’t have to be in that shit place anymore
2018-07-17 13:08
well thats another problem. because its not safe in russia if you think for yourself, everyone who can see what is going on and could do something about it is either killed or they leave for a safer country. same tactic the nazis used to gain complete political control in germany.
2018-07-17 13:10
#104
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Czech Republic dreamARTz 
People don’t have that kind of mentality, there’s too few people who care and they get easily oppressed. I don’t think anything will be done for at least ~10 years or more. It’s exactly the nazi tactic to segregate and gain control.
2018-07-17 13:30
#89
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Czech Republic dreamARTz 
So you think Ukraininas are that dumb that thought that putin was just casually flying over Ukraine during armed conflict? Wtf is wrong with you? There’s lots of evidence from independant sources including fucking satellite footage. Because of stupid people like you Russia is a shithole where people have no rights and media is 120% controled propoganda.
2018-07-17 13:04
U are saying like you know how do people live here. Understandable. Have a nice day. P.S. Putin was flying there half an hour before.
2018-07-17 13:05
go wear your tinfoil cap. there are 0 proofs of russia connections with hackers, missiles, poisoning. all of this are fake news - and this is true fact. just face that in reality you are racist and want to kill all russians, all jews.
2018-07-17 12:22
about the missile has been proven now, it was russian soldiers and russian missile launcher, look it up government.nl/topics/mh17-incident/news/.. government.nl/topics/mh17-incident/achie.. bellingcat.com/tag/mh17/ russia did this. that ppl like you, instead of looking critically at the murderers you call your leaders, accuse me of wanting to kill russians and jews, is really bad. that means that putins propaganda bullshit is working. i dont want russians to die. i want you to live free and happy lives in peace. without bitches like putin making conflict for their personal profit and stealing all your money
2018-07-17 12:30
you are racist, you want to kill all russians and all jews. usa kill your citizens. it is the same plane as malasian. it is cia operation. russia is innocent.
2018-07-17 12:32
retard
2018-07-17 12:35
#106
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Latvia Matematikis 
It's not racist if we want to kill russians/jews, they are not races.
2018-07-17 13:40
Russian made missile but Ukraine fired it. Even the mighty USA media/ propaganda machine all at once just killed the story. They knew Russia did not fire it so instead of saying that they just stopped covering the story.
2018-07-17 12:22
russia made the missile, russian soldiers in ukraine on unofficial orders from russian govt fired the missile. there are pictures on facebook of russian guys sitting on that launcher in the ukraine. it doesnt get any better than this. urkainians would be fucking retarded to shoot down a commercial airplane over their own territory, whereas russia had a clear motive, means and opportunity.
2018-07-17 12:35
Well before the story was killed in America I read that Putin was heading back from Europe and his plane looked just like the one shot down. What other motive would their be? Why would Russia randomly shoot down one commercial plane? What's the reason? You always have to look for a motive. Like the conspiracy theories surrounding the world trade center bombings. They never attacked us again and our security has not improved. We head straight to IRAQ and Afghanistan who at the time were 2 of the last few countries that did not have a world bank. Funny that they had nothing to do with the bombings . That's the motive. North Korea and Iran are the last 2 and notice the American media hates both of them.
2018-07-17 12:39
because putin wanted to occupy the Krim and making Ukraines airspace declared unsafe was part of that plan. secondly, Putin wanted to blame the Ukraine for this missile attack. Third, he wants the EU to order sanctions against Russia so he can complain on national tv about how everyone hates russians and EU is being really mean to him :( its the same shit erdogan does, piss other countries off and then say only he can protect turkey so ppl will vote for him
2018-07-17 12:40
So would you like Europe to attack Russia? They would get wiped out in a few months. Don't believe the media. Russia has a very powerful army.
2018-07-17 12:43
where did you get that idea? what i want is that we stop buying russian gas and financing putins reign of terror that way.
2018-07-17 12:44
open your eyes, racist. 9m-mrd = 9m-mro it is cia operation. usa killed your citizens and killed malasian citizens aswell.
2018-07-17 12:26
U are truly retarded
2018-07-17 12:27
Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 = Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 9M-MRD = 9M-MRO it is the same plane. it is cia operation. usa killed your citizens. russia is innocent.
2018-07-17 12:29
ok now your grasping at straws. your govt killed these ppl. sorry if that offends you. it offends me too
2018-07-17 12:34
open your eyes it is same plane. 9M-MRD = 9M-MRO america killed 3000 their own citizens in 9\11 america killed dutch and malasians citizens aswell.
2018-07-17 12:36
you are putins bitch.
2018-07-17 12:39
Actually I think Europe is Putins bitch. Russia could take over Europe with ease.
2018-07-17 12:44
I believe in this crazy conspiracy theories and more and more people start to believing aswell. World government, masons and illuminati try to blame Russia for all sins. Trump and Putin are only hope of rest free world. I am sorry if Russia involved in this.
2018-07-17 12:44
this is what putin wants. instead of blaming the ppl who are responsible for your problems, putin and his rich friends club, you should blame literally everyone else. and then he gets to make more money while youre wasting your time
2018-07-17 12:46
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Finland vesku 
Usa population is retarded mostly. Trump did best move for USA in 5000 years and us citizen cry for it. It just tells how selfish US are. As fast as trump said it was usa faulth everyone flipped their table and blame trump for being not on usa side, when what he said was right.
2018-07-17 12:08
Yes Usa population is retarded mostly , thats why Trump is President.
2018-07-17 12:11
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United Kingdom Thoooooorin 
Expected :> #FanLogic
2018-07-17 12:12
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United States _ATaXiA_ 
Are you honestly this thick? We don't want to be friends with a person who had our elections rigged in favor of a puppet. Right before the summit 12 GRU high ranking intelligence officials were indited by our DOJ, the indictment names these people and has the time and location they entered its a pretty good read --> vox.com/2018/7/13/17568806/mueller-russi.. Not only this but trump knew about this and just let putin go with out telling him to backoff, he's spineless and it's also a huge slap in the face of our CIA/FBI that uncovered this.
2018-07-17 12:18
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Norway ripazha 
The left are getting crazier and crazier day by day. The media will criticise Trump no matter what he does. It's in their crazy agenda...
2018-07-17 12:18
The USA media has portrayed Putin and Russia as our enemy for years so the people believe it and hate Russia. We have a huge propaganda machine running in America.
2018-07-17 12:20
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United States trump2020 
Must remember to 90% of media Trump can never do anything right.
2018-07-17 12:21
no worries, he'll win 2020 anyway
2018-07-17 13:14
#98
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United States trump2020 
If he runs again.
2018-07-17 13:15
I Like Putin
2018-07-17 12:24
No fucking clue what libtards want, another fucking cold war? o_O
2018-07-17 12:25
sanctions against russia for interfering in foreign democratic processes. those would need to apply to usa as well tho, they dont go 5 minutes without interfering somewhere. both initiatives would get vetoed in UN security councils. so what the libtards really want is: nothing. maintain status quo. make money.
2018-07-17 13:15
Ye the thing is that putin has total control over trump
2018-07-17 12:29
It doesn't matter what Trump does he is hated still and always does wrong, even if he did some revolutionary good thing it would be passed by with a mere shrug and they would comment how he still sucks rather than giving positive thing any attention.
2018-07-17 12:35
#53
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Faroe Islands fakeflagg0t 
i absolutely love people with single digit iq trying to discuss politics
2018-07-17 12:39
what happened explioan
2018-07-17 12:39
They all say i'm toxic. :(
2018-07-17 12:41
#69
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Mongolia AfRiCaNnIgErO 
they are leftists what are you expecting?
2018-07-17 12:45
>trump believes putin, or doesnt want to argue about hacker attack during election, prevents usa-rus conflict >usa citizens go mad because he makes peace with SOVIETEVILUNION >trump calls out putin as a liar, putin is mad, war is starting >usa citizens go mad because TRUMP HAS STARTED 3RD WORLD WAR usa pls
2018-07-17 12:57
#90
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United States Benjii92 
themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploa.. look up slippery slope logical fallacy
2018-07-17 13:04
What do you expect from Hamburgers?
2018-07-17 13:37
Trump could literally save the middle East and still get hate, leftists never give up.
2018-07-17 13:14
Even his supporters are hating on him right now lmao. Especially his fellow republicians lel
2018-07-17 13:45
> trusts putin more than his own intelligence service LMAO
2018-07-17 14:19
typical americans
2018-07-17 14:21
looool no trust can be
2018-07-17 14:22
Because if Russia and USA become friends, USA representative can't use Russia as the enemy to justify their politic. Paul Ryan even admitted it yesterday.
2018-07-17 15:03
if they become "friends" then americans cant just blame russia for everything??????
2018-07-17 16:30
there is no friends in politic only partners for same interes.
2018-07-17 16:32
I have no idea what you are trying to imply here. My eyes are bleeding.
2018-07-17 16:35
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