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Sweden KarlXII 
The end of the year? Obv your opinion, if you disagree with mine thats fine. 1. Natus Vincere 2. Astralis 3. MIBR 4. FaZe 5. Fnatic 6. Liquid 7. NRG 8. NIP 9. Mousesports 10. BIG 11. ENCE 12. OpTic 13. C9 (Depends on if Golden/Styko sign, idk, could be in better or worse spot) 14. Renegades 15. North Obviously a bit hard to predict, but idk, just for fun i guess.
2018-07-22 21:41
#1
GuardiaN | 
North America Gc_29 
MIBRRRRRRRRRRRR lmao
2018-07-22 21:42
ence above c9 when the c9 that won the major did way more than optic/ence/big will do this year.
2018-07-22 21:45
#47
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Sweden KarlXII 
Because C9 will drop 4-7 spots with this roster. I think C9 might sign Golden and add another NA player over STYKO.
2018-07-22 22:25
cry is free
2018-07-22 23:36
#95
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World lalt 
That major has very little impact to HLTV rating in the end of the year. Especially when they have lost 40% of points because of roster changes already.
2018-07-22 23:40
you don't make sense. that is saying it is the same team.
2018-07-23 04:40
#227
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World lalt 
Major winning c9 doesn't exist.
2018-07-23 22:08
but they were a 2018 team. cant count fnatic either then.
2018-07-23 23:55
xDD
2018-07-22 23:47
#2
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Finland Lassius 
1. ENCE Rest irrelevant
2018-07-22 21:42
EZ4ENCE
2018-07-22 21:43
#7
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Czech Republic CharlesIV 
No major :)
2018-07-22 21:44
#9
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Finland Lassius 
ENCE saving starts for IEM Katowice 2019, it's all a part of Aleksib0b's masterplan
2018-07-22 21:45
#17
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Czech Republic CharlesIV 
Of course, but you cant put their stickers on ak :))))))))
2018-07-22 21:47
#18
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Finland Lassius 
Yet :3
2018-07-22 21:47
#19
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Czech Republic CharlesIV 
Never :3
2018-07-22 21:48
#20
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Finland Lassius 
Next year :3
2018-07-22 21:49
#23
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Czech Republic CharlesIV 
They will not exist :)))
2018-07-22 21:50
#24
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Finland Lassius 
Or will they :)
2018-07-22 21:51
hopefully... :(
2018-07-22 23:36
ENCE @ Major in Katowice hltv confirmed
2018-07-22 23:42
FeelsGoodMan
2018-07-22 23:42
#176
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Lithuania LevelUpp 
Katowice ain't a major bud
2018-07-23 10:50
Next year it will be.
2018-07-23 11:07
lol, Valve announced it recently xd IEM Katowice 2019 Major Challengers: 14/02 Legends: 21/02 Champions: 28/02
2018-07-23 15:49
#203
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Lithuania LevelUpp 
O damn my bad, didn't see the news
2018-07-23 15:48
np
2018-07-23 15:49
#77
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CIS vokahsu 
nt prokda
2018-07-22 23:25
xDDD
2018-07-22 23:48
ence 11 optic 12 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-07-22 23:07
Worst list I've ever seen. MiBR #3??? NRG #7????? C9 #13????????? G2 NOT EVEN IN TOP 15???????????????????????????????
2018-07-22 21:47
#16
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Denmark JELLING 
+1
2018-07-22 21:47
#29
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Sweden KarlXII 
In the end of the year MIBR can be #3 yes. But retards like yourself say "XAXAXAXA MIBR HAHAHA THINK ADDING TARIK WILL HELP LOOK THEY ARE SO BAD" after 1 bo3 with Tarik lol. No, G2 wont be top 15, only if they get their shit together. Yes, C9 currently with 2 standins/trials. NRG #7 yes, solid team, imo best if not the second best NA team atm.
2018-07-22 22:04
#52
United Kingdom h4mm 
+1111
2018-07-22 22:41
#60
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Sweden KarlXII 
Also Tarik is a SOLID CT player for MiBR, thats one HUGE problem MiBR had with Boltz, the CT side. MiBR can have fucking 14-1 half as T and then lose 14-16 when they get CT side (With Boltz) So Tarik is def a upgrade on the for MiBRs CT side as well as a upgrade overall that can help the team with lots of stuff.
2018-07-22 23:06
#78
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Suk_Mike_Hok 
If this a general prediction then fine but atm it is complitely false and untrue.
2018-07-22 23:26
#85
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Sweden KarlXII 
Its for the whole year (like Dec 31th) and not July 22nd ^^
2018-07-22 23:30
1 of all i dont think mibr will be better then faze Faze astralis and navi will havê close fights for the tourmament I think liquid will explode and be like top,4/5 And i dont think ence should make this top maybe a g2 maybe a surprsing team like space soliders and my heart tells me vp will come back (i know probaby will not happend)
2018-07-22 23:56
#117
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Sweden KarlXII 
Depends. Everyone expects Olof to come back and be a god, which i dont think he will be. Both Astralis and NaVi look really strong, so does Liquid (imo, but Taco is shit)
2018-07-23 00:06
Yea it depends if olof starts underpreforming maybe faze replace then idk alot of things to go but i hope olof come back better
2018-07-23 00:09
Taco ain't shit he's just the support, just cause he's not hitting for AG's don't mean he's not helping
2018-07-23 06:47
#148
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Sweden KarlXII 
He was literally the "bait" for Coldzera dude.
2018-07-23 06:48
Lmao ik that but that still don't make him shit, that's the point of the support they help the star players, everyone has a 'bait' as you call them
2018-07-23 06:51
#150
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Sweden KarlXII 
There are supports with 1.05 rating etc. Taco: 0.97. During MiBR game he got 14 kills in 2 maps youtube.com/watch?v=zBkuNpgACH0
2018-07-23 06:53
Not all supports are the same, it depends on what the fragging part of the team wants help with
2018-07-23 08:27
#213
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Denmark MeToxi 
hltv.org/matches/2324803/liquid-vs-mibr-.. I mean... only one example and i hope we can agree that even supports should have better stats than this.. And btw, in 2.0 rating it also includes many support stats.. ;)
2018-07-23 17:21
You can't say that after the first fucking match, if they still haven't improved until post major then we can say that it was not a good move, tarik literally joined 2 weeks ago
2018-07-23 06:46
#165
HaZR | 
Australia Xinaroth 
+1 my friend, especially about G2 LOL
2018-07-23 08:24
ENCE > BIG+NRG
2018-07-22 21:44
#33
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Sweden KarlXII 
lol not at the moment dude.
2018-07-22 22:05
BIG OMEGALUL
2018-07-22 23:00
Lol what ence did in cologne? What big did? Ence in major qual? No big? Yea so Yea atm big its better then ence
2018-07-22 23:59
#6
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Czech Republic Prdola15 
LUL Faze???? NaVi???? MIBR???? Everything is wrong! MonkaS
2018-07-22 21:45
lul navi best
2018-07-22 22:26
ez
2018-07-22 22:26
#79
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CIS vokahsu 
nt prokda
2018-07-22 23:26
as of now navi = astralis in 2018, yep astralis won 1 more big tourney but they sucked at major and sltv and top-4 at katowice without mouz and navi also shit, while navi top-4 in every tournament
2018-07-22 23:36
#124
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
Navi might be top 4 but in the meanwhile Astralis wins in top1 mate, look up stats
2018-07-23 00:11
astralis 3 wins, 1 top-2, 2 top-4 and, while navi 3 wins 2 top 2 and 2 top-4, yep there was 1 win in tier-2 tournaments in china, but still win + 1 more 2nd place is equal i suppose, astralis was dogshit in first 3 month of 2018, major out of group LUL, sltv rekt by navi, and Katowice, yep 4th place but without navi and mouz in it is kinda bad, thats why i think astralis and navi are equal for top-1 spot in 2018 eleauge will decide who is real top-1 for now
2018-07-23 00:43
#170
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
The tournaments navi have won is bullshit you can barely call it a tournament, the thing you dont look into is the tournament, you just see them "win". 2 of the tournaments was tier 6 tournaments with basicly only Navi being there, meaning a free win so 2 doesn't count. Then we are down to 1 which is Cologne, which is nice for them. But also a extremly lucky run.
2018-07-23 10:19
2 of tournaments tier-6? so sltv is tier-6? so every tournament where at least 1 tier-1 missing is tier-6 okay, then only major, sltv season 4, dh marsell, esl pro leauge and cologne was tier-1 tournaments, astralis 2 wins, top-4, top-8 and top-16, navi 1 win, 2 top-2 and 2 top-4, so navi >> astralis p.s. yep china tournaments was bullshit, but you call stlv tier-6, astralis played whole year in such tournaments like iem katowice-sydney, ecs, only 5 tournaments for now had everysingle top team, and navi better then astralis on this 5 tournaments
2018-07-23 11:39
#8
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Czech Republic Fun1x 
1. Natus Vincere 3. MIBR LMAO AHAHAHAH
2018-07-22 21:44
#80
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CIS vokahsu 
nt prokda
2018-07-22 23:26
MIBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR NUMBER THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
2018-07-22 21:45
#34
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Sweden KarlXII 
Yes? People like yourself be like "XD THINK ADDING TARIK WILL HELP LOOK THEY LOST 1 BO3 XAXAXAXA SO BAD SO BAD" after their first bo3 after 1 week pracc lol.
2018-07-22 22:06
Kid, mibr is tier2 team. Literally. Theyll not be even in top10 at the end of the year. I rly feels sad4u. U need some help to fix ur brain. :c
2018-07-23 11:54
#189
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Sweden KarlXII 
Calling me kid after you post: i.gyazo.com/8847489c8f53bb7a1e5553dafbf4.. Ok. They will be, but you guys are idiots for judging a team after 1 event and 8 days of pracc.
2018-07-23 12:22
ill mark this comment and will reply to u in december. Will see, who's the real idiot (cuz now the real idiot its u, u and u.)
2018-07-23 13:13
#194
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India iejesus 
+1
2018-07-23 13:16
#200
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Sweden KarlXII 
Why is the letter "u" a idiot? Maybe spell you correctly mate. Thanks.
2018-07-23 15:17
Idc tbh, just be ready to get a title of idiot, lowbrained kid.
2018-07-23 16:44
r u an english teacher on hltv or sumthin? clearly u understand wtf he said and u got rekt so u gotta pick on something to make any reply lmaoooo xdd rekt
2018-07-23 17:07
#220
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Sweden KarlXII 
Rekt? Where did i get rekt f-flagger?
2018-07-23 17:42
#191 and why u call me fake flagger?
2018-07-23 18:02
#223
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Sweden KarlXII 
Because you are one? :D
2018-07-23 18:13
proof?
2018-07-23 18:28
#11
Snax | 
United Kingdom LFX 
Imo: big won't be in the top 15. MIBR won't be that high. Other than that it seems good
2018-07-22 21:45
mouz<nip XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-07-22 21:45
#14
NiKo | 
Russia Squ1xZz 
MBR HAHA
2018-07-22 21:46
Dude, i feels so sad4u tbh :c
2018-07-22 21:46
#22
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United Kingdom TypicalBrit 
+1 this guy has some serious mental problems
2018-07-22 21:50
#21
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Other mekkicsgo 
MIBR really?
2018-07-22 21:50
#25
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Germany LE_N3RD 
Lol dude, put Liquid in front of fnatic and mibr at spot 8 behind BIG who are also better than NIP.
2018-07-22 21:51
at?what?
2018-07-22 21:53
#27
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Denmark cn281 
1. Astralis 2. FaZe 3. Fnatic 4. Na'Vi 5. Liquid 6. Mousesports 7. MIBR 8. G2 9. NiP 10. North 11. Cloud9 12. Ence 13. Renegades 14. Tyloo 15. BIG
2018-07-22 22:00
#76
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Bulgaria mchetvorkata 
so NRG completely dissapears from the list? i disagree with fnatic's spot aswell
2018-07-22 23:23
#89
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Europe RadduZEW 
Fnatic and faze above navi ????? Hahahahaha nice bait
2018-07-22 23:35
#145
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Europe poseidoon 
I can understand fnatic but faze is above navi for sure
2018-07-23 04:45
#173
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Europe RadduZEW 
i dont think so, navi beat faze last 3 times when they played and with good lineaps
2018-07-23 10:42
#181
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Denmark cn281 
Yeah, but this is by the end of the year, and I don't think Na'Vi will continue playing as well as they are doing right now, throughout the year.
2018-07-23 11:07
#199
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Europe poseidoon 
where the fuck did navi beat faze last 3 times :D? last LAN, where they have met was hltv.org/matches/2319683/faze-vs-natus-v.. hltv.org/matches/2318630/faze-vs-natus-v..
2018-07-23 14:25
#201
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Europe RadduZEW 
epl europe 8 (online and navi won 16-6 first map and after 25-22 2nd map) starladder s4 semi-final epl dallas i dont have the links
2018-07-23 15:40
Looks good except maybe NaVi > fnatic
2018-07-23 17:09
No opinions on the thread I just came to say that I like your name.
2018-07-22 22:00
#31
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Sweden KarlXII 
Ty
2018-07-22 22:05
#30
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Finland jrhg0dx 
1.Astralis 2. g2 (with different lineup) 3. Faze 4. Navi 5. fnatic 6. liquid. 7.north 8.mouz 9.c9 10. ence 11.renegeades 12. nip 13.mibr 14. big 15.hr
2018-07-22 22:04
#50
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Sweden KarlXII 
12. nip 13. mibr 14. big ?? Why? Also: 2. g2 (with different lineup) What would the "different lineup" be?
2018-07-22 22:27
#54
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Finland jrhg0dx 
12.nip in 2k18 xaxxaxaxa 13. im pretty sure coldzera wont carry them anymore in late 2018 14.?? g2 shox/zywoo kennys ex6 apex bodyy
2018-07-22 23:00
#57
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Sweden KarlXII 
Ehm yes? NIP just qualified for the major as well. Coldzera wont join Liquid lol. Whats wrong with Renegades? apEX wont join that roster again dude, trust me. Why do people overhype Zywoo so much, i dont get it, yes he is talented, but he would probably get fisted by NaVi/Astralis/Fnatic/Mouz etc.
2018-07-22 23:02
#58
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Finland jrhg0dx 
What the fuck? 11. renegades?? Yes he will. trust me. qualified for major qualifier. not that good. optic also qualified for major.
2018-07-22 23:06
#64
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Sweden KarlXII 
No, Coldzera wont dude. Liquid cant afford or wont spend that amount of cash to get him out of a 5-10 year contract lol. FalleN, Fer, Boltz, Stewie2k, Coldzera all signed 5-10 year deals, i guess Tarik did as well. And just look how much FaZe paid for NiKo, so yeah, i dont think Liquid can spend NiKos transfer money X3-X4 lol.
2018-07-22 23:08
#74
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Finland jrhg0dx 
5-10 years??? source??
2018-07-22 23:17
#75
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Sweden KarlXII 
2018-07-22 23:20
#32
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Estonia qoznyyy 
pretty much but remove nip
2018-07-22 22:05
#35
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Sweden plikz 
1. Liquid 2. Astralis 3. Navi
2018-07-22 22:07
#36
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Finland jrhg0dx 
If coldzera joins liquid they can be top1
2018-07-22 22:13
#41
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Sweden plikz 
who would they kick? Taco Coldzera combo is sick
2018-07-22 22:18
#43
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Finland jrhg0dx 
mby coldzera taco twistzz naf nitr0/elige
2018-07-22 22:19
#37
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Other Bobylon 
mibr wtf kys
2018-07-22 22:14
#38
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Sweden KarlXII 
Reported
2018-07-22 22:16
#40
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Other Bobylon 
not even me (brazilian) think mibr deserves top10
2018-07-22 22:18
#44
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Sweden plikz 
He says in the end of year they can ofcourse improve
2018-07-22 22:19
#45
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Sweden KarlXII 
+1 Exactly mate! :)
2018-07-22 22:19
#39
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Japan KasPro 
commit sewer side
2018-07-22 22:17
mouz 9th i arent think that
2018-07-22 22:18
#46
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Sweden KarlXII 
Well, imo Mouz isnt looking that strong with Snax :/ But ofc i can be wrong and they could finish 4-6th
2018-07-22 22:19
#51
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Germany grabke 
Really ??? So far they played one event with no practice at all before. Lets wait and see after some events how this works out. With Styko Mouz already proved they are a TOP 5 Team.
2018-07-22 22:41
#53
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Sweden KarlXII 
Ofc you cant judge a team after one event, like i have been saying with MiBR and Tarik. But Mouz didnt play that good at the last event imo. 0-2 vs Ence 1-2 vs G2 16-8 vs Gambit (Mouz win) Losing 1-2 vs G2 with that roster mouz got isnt good at all, but as i stated above, you should always give a team some time with new players.
2018-07-22 22:43
#81
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CIS vokahsu 
nt prokda
2018-07-22 23:27
dafuq 0 nip 1 nip
2018-07-22 23:01
#59
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Poland Madzian 
1.Astralis 2.NaVi 3.Faze 4.Mouz 5.Liquid 6.Fnatic 7.mibr 8.NRG 9.NIP 10.Optic 11.BIG 12.Cloud 9 13.ENCE 14.G2 15.Renegades
2018-07-22 23:07
#131
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Sweden Iekr0 
Best ranking +rep
2018-07-23 00:21
#175
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Latvia kjyy 
+ -, something like that
2018-07-23 10:48
nip > mouz XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-07-22 23:07
14. Renegades LUUUUUL
2018-07-22 23:08
+1
2018-07-22 23:10
liquid > mibr > fnatic
2018-07-22 23:08
#66
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
1. fnatic 2. who cares lol
2018-07-22 23:09
Fnatic OMEGALUL
2018-07-22 23:10
#70
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
come back at new years eve my man
2018-07-22 23:10
#72
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Sweden KarlXII 
Sry mate but Fnatic wont be #1, but top 5 is possible imo.
2018-07-22 23:12
Renegades You killed me XD
2018-07-22 23:09
#71
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Sweden KarlXII 
Yes RNG at 14th? What other teams? lol. HR? Tyloo? Gambot? SS? VP? AGO? Heroic? Please tell me.
2018-07-22 23:12
#73
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Sweden LynXelele 
1. Astralis 2. FaZe 3. NaVi 4. Liquid 5. Fnatic 6. mousesports 7. MIBR 8. NiP 9. G2 10. BIG 11. OpTic 12. North 13. Cloud9 14. Renegades 15. Space Soldiers
2018-07-22 23:13
#82
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Sweden rawrxdd 
MIBR IN TOP 15 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-07-22 23:27
#86
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Sweden KarlXII 
"XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD" Confirmed 15 year old. How is your scooter doing? Working fine still or did the cops take it away from you?
2018-07-22 23:32
#93
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Sweden rawrxdd 
Epic roast there bud, i dont think i'll be able to recover from that one.
2018-07-22 23:37
#96
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Sweden KarlXII 
Good. Now exit my thread.
2018-07-22 23:42
#101
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Sweden rawrxdd 
What if i dont
2018-07-22 23:45
#102
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Sweden KarlXII 
Then i call my dad aka Jonathan E.
2018-07-22 23:46
#108
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Sweden rawrxdd 
Nt social democrat
2018-07-22 23:48
#120
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Sweden KarlXII 
"DefendNorthernEurope" >Social Democrat Pick one.
2018-07-23 00:08
#125
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Sweden rawrxdd 
Nt social democrat who wants to defend northern europe from the growing right wing movement
2018-07-23 00:15
#127
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Sweden KarlXII 
Mhm right, right. Can you fuck off now clown.
2018-07-23 00:18
#128
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Sweden rawrxdd 
Idk can I?
2018-07-23 00:19
#129
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Sweden KarlXII 
Yes you can.
2018-07-23 00:19
1. Astralis 2. Faze 3. Navi other shit
2018-07-22 23:28
#87
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United Kingdom ExzoGames 
1. Astralis 2. FaZe 3. Natus Vincere 4. Mousesports 5. Liquid 6. MIBR 7. Fnatic 8. G2 9. C9 10. BIG 11. North 12. OpTic 13. NIP 14. NRG 15. Space Soldiers
2018-07-22 23:35
8. NiP OMEGALUL
2018-07-22 23:35
#99
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Sweden KarlXII 
Yes? What? Currently 12th, and obv we are watching a stronger NIP with a new IGL aka Lekr0.
2018-07-22 23:43
#94
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Lithuania andy_ 
3. MIBR no.
2018-07-22 23:37
mibr shouldnt be even in top-10. but every fucking org still invite that tier-3 team to every event
2018-07-22 23:44
#103
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Sweden KarlXII 
0/8. You are one of those clowns that judge MiBR after 1 Bo3 with Tarik? :D
2018-07-22 23:46
1 bo3? whole 2018 mibr = shit
2018-07-22 23:47
#114
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Sweden KarlXII 
Ah, well its confirmed that you are one of those clowns. "Whole 2018", MiBR have been active since July 3rd, so try again retard. Tarik have been in the team for about 8 days, and that was his first official match with MiBR.
2018-07-23 00:05
so they wont be even in top-20 of 2018. cuz they play only for half a year and still dont do shit
2018-07-23 00:07
#121
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Sweden KarlXII 
Mhm, OK wannabe Russia, whatever.
2018-07-23 00:08
get rekt swedistan, mibr/sk = tier-3 dogshit not top-3
2018-07-23 00:41
#106
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Hungary PaTiEnT_GaRy 
MiBR is not even Top 10 at the moment
2018-07-22 23:47
Mibr has no place in the top 10, they have to prove themselves and so far they are really not doing anything like that
2018-07-22 23:47
#123
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Sweden KarlXII 
"and so far they are really not doing anything like that" >Just added Tarik 8 days ago. lol.
2018-07-23 00:09
L M A O M A O
2018-07-22 23:51
#115
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Sweden KarlXII 
static.hltv.org/images/team/logo/5752 ? What are you laughing at?
2018-07-23 00:05
3. MIBR 8. NiP nice try
2018-07-23 00:06
#118
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Sweden KarlXII 
Ehm? Yes?
2018-07-23 00:07
1. Natus Vincere (They're all starting to perform now and S1mple is actually stepping back a lot. If s1mple comes back into the fore-front they can definitely be #1) 2. Astralis (Can't see them losing this form anytime soon) 3. FaZe (If by the end of the year they need to replace Olof they'll get someone to fill his place and still stay in form. They have the money for anything) 4. Fnatic (They're fnatic, they'll find a way) 5. MiBR (Tarik and Cold are going to tear up. Unless cold leaves to go to liquid.) 6. Cloud9 (By the end of the year Ska will likely be gone, and Golden is genuinely a good IGL just not a good fragger. If they bring in a good awper and a fragger instead of styko they could do well in my opinion. Maybe even top 5) 7. Team Liquid (Decent team, not a top team. If they get cold later in the year they will be top 5 for sure) 8. Mousesports (Budget FaZe, strong team, good form RN. Not good enough for me to call them a top team) 9. NRG (Young, up and coming, I can definitely see them being higher than this. Maybe being where MiBR is) 10. BIG (Smooya can become a star by the end of the year. Tabsen & nex can frag and GobB is a good leader, I expect they stay around this level) 11. G2 (They can be top 15, even if they keep their current roster. Not top 5, maybe not top 10. But they can be decent) 12. Renegades (Young team, still growing.) 13. North (Good style, strong players. Not amazing but they can win tier 3 events) 14. NIP (until they solve the limitless problems they're having. They are not a top team.) 15. CompLexity (Similar to north. They're good enough to win bad events. Which makes them only okay.) A lot of those teams have unstable rosters so this is obviously not going to be accurate. But assuming everything follows a sensible path I think it will look something like this. I think its basically impossible to predict how each team will perform by the end of the year but you asked so... I don't really see a way that ColdZera stays in MiBR if the leaked conflicts between him and fallen are true. If he goes to Liquid I'd say that MiBR is much lower down, maybe 8th or 9th, and I think Liquid would move up to 4th. Thoughts?
2018-07-22 23:57
#126
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Sweden Iekr0 
MiBR 3? NRG 7? NiP 8? Mousesports 9?
2018-07-23 00:16
#130
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Sweden KarlXII 
Read "The end of the year? Obv your opinion" MiBR with Tarik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MiBR with Boltz Give them 1-3 months and they will do good.
2018-07-23 00:20
#135
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Sweden Iekr0 
mibr even wont exit from eleague group
2018-07-23 00:25
#136
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Sweden KarlXII 
1/8 for attempt. Okay, so if they dont they are "T5" according to you? With 8 days pracc with Tarik and first ever LAN event?
2018-07-23 00:28
#138
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Sweden Iekr0 
liquid w/o coach
2018-07-23 00:29
#139
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Sweden KarlXII 
???????????????????????????? I know? What are you talking about?
2018-07-23 00:31
#140
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Sweden Iekr0 
u said what mibr with tarik 1 week and i said what liquid w/o coach, but liqiud>mibr still
2018-07-23 00:34
#141
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Sweden KarlXII 
English please Dimitri. A team can play without a coach dude, a new player is harder to get into a team after 8 days of pracc lol.
2018-07-23 00:35
OpTic haven’t done anything yet
2018-07-23 00:23
Very nice try but it was actually a shit try
2018-07-23 00:24
#134
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Poland Htcobakel 
1. Astralis 2. Natus Vincere 3. FaZe 4. Liquid 5. Mousesports 6. Fnatic 7. MIBR 8. G2 9. NIP 10. BIG 11. ENCE 12. OpTic 13. Cloud9 14. Renegades 15. North
2018-07-23 00:25
#137
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Poland Htcobakel 
maybe NRG somewhere between 12-15
2018-07-23 00:28
They lost to EU united lmao. no way
2018-07-23 08:11
North is better then OpTic
2018-07-23 08:21
Yeah right now, but I think now for too long cuz north neeeds a player and I think optic can go be a very good team
2018-07-23 11:09
The treath is talking about now, and North can nearly get any player
2018-07-23 11:30
#151
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Russia AlexMove 
MIBR AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2018-07-23 06:56
#152
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Sweden KarlXII 
G2? l...ol
2018-07-23 06:57
#153
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Russia AlexMove 
We was talking about G2?
2018-07-23 06:59
#154
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Sweden KarlXII 
You are laughing at MiBR that just added Tarik and is on their first LAN after 7 days of pracc. Meanwhile Gaymers2 added 2 bots in the team and washed up Shox. lol.
2018-07-23 07:00
#158
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Russia AlexMove 
And where does G2?
2018-07-23 07:50
>Na'Vi >Top 1 pick one
2018-07-23 07:14
this is probably one of the shittiest lists ever made on hltv
2018-07-23 07:18
#161
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Sweden KarlXII 
Ok mr 4 man roster team with Toxicranto on bench.
2018-07-23 08:13
"if you disagree with mine thats fine. "
2018-07-23 08:18
#164
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Sweden KarlXII 
? What? I just talked about Imperial??
2018-07-23 08:22
1. g2 (ex6tenz, shox, smithzz, kennys, rpk) 2. big (same lineup) 3. astralis (same lineup) 4. virtus.pro (ange1, dosia, adren, electronic, s1mple) 5. ence (aleksib, allu, sergej, joelz, sunny)
2018-07-23 07:23
This is the weridest top 5 list i've seen
2018-07-23 11:07
Mibr 16. Astralis 1. /Closed
2018-07-23 08:10
Retarded list 5/7
2018-07-23 08:29
1. Elena Koshka 2. Nancy A 3. Kira Thorn 4. Nekane 5. Mia Malkova 6. Carmel Anderson 7. Tina Kay 8. Sofy Torn 9. Friberg 10. Alina Lopez 11. Abygail Johnson 12. Lana Rhoades 13. Riley Reid 14. Shakila Asti 15. Karlee Grey
2018-07-23 08:29
#171
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Finland Dolmi0 
This is the kind of list i can get behind. Only thing is that Alina Lopez should be way higher like 2nd or 3rd and there should be girls like hannah hays or abella danger instead of Plastic Rhoades and Mia Malkova
2018-07-23 10:25
I'm not really educated in porn
2018-07-23 10:59
#178
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Finland Dolmi0 
I can see
2018-07-23 11:01
but i don't really like those ugly faces of abella and hannah Too many porn actress atm are uglyfaced. That's why i guess too many ppl prefer homevideos. Official actresses are ugly affffffffffffffffff
2018-07-23 11:54
#169
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Denmark Niicism 
Fakeflag fake list 0/8
2018-07-23 09:18
Mibr not even top 10
2018-07-23 10:41
+1
2018-07-23 10:45
The other big storyline regarding your team was Lekr0 becoming the in-game leader right after Cologne. How do you see his progression over the last couple of weeks and especially here, where you had to overcome quite a lot? I think he did a super good job. He has a lot of qualities that people may not see, I think he has a lot of leadership qualities that don't really shine through now because of the short time we had and the preparation. He's very calm, he's very happy, he's always making jokes, and he's always a guy that can turn it around for someone who gets a little bit tilted or anything like that. That's good to have in a guy like him, as a leader, because it cools everything down. I think that changed a lot for us, that was an issue for us before that we could get very tilted very quickly and get stuck there. But he was the guy who changed that completely for us, online, when we bootcamped, and at this tournament, he shined through the most, if you ask me. We just need to work even harder now, I don't think we're going to relax at all. I hope we can just continue what we've done here because now we're qualified and now we have even bigger battles coming up and we can't be too happy about this. We're happy for now, but now we just have to grind even harder and keep going, give back to our fans who have been waiting for a long time. Speaking of relaxing, and you already touched on this a little when you talked about getting yourself back together, how much time are you going to spend away from the game in this break that is coming up and how much time will you spend on preparations for the Major? Right now my feelings are that I just want to go back and grind because I'm in that mood right now. But I think that I should keep it down and quiet a little bit and just focus on my health, firstly, just relax, and I'm going away on a 10-day holiday with my girlfriend. I think around the 12th-13th - I don't know exactly, we haven't really discussed it specifically -, somewhere around there we're going to start again, redo everything, and just work hard again. So it's at least going to be a few weeks that you'll have... I think it's around three weeks what we talked about regarding the break, but I think it's going to be less, it depends, you'll always want to grind a little bit more. Eventually, when you're on vacation, you get bored easily because people are working, your friends, etc., so you're like 'hmm, maybe I should play a little bit' and then you start playing earlier anyway. Maybe we're not going to really practice as a team, but we're probably going to start earlier.
2018-07-23 11:05
Great list, but I think mousesport will be higher on the list
2018-07-23 11:06
#190
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Sweden KarlXII 
Yeah they might be :P Tbh NRG was hard to place as well since i think NahtE will leave for C9, but idk.
2018-07-23 12:23
+1 i hope it works out with snax
2018-07-23 13:14
#193
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Finland CoFmo 
NRG wtf?
2018-07-23 13:15
#195
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Ukraine illinoize 
agreed my friend
2018-07-23 13:18
#196
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Germany xoutblaze 
LOL
2018-07-23 13:19
#197
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India iejesus 
Stopped reading At 3. Mibr Dafuq
2018-07-23 13:20
stopped reading at 1. navi
2018-07-23 13:20
#207
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Sweden KarlXII 
How? The have the best player in the world.
2018-07-23 16:47
so
2018-07-23 18:06
#224
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Sweden KarlXII 
So? So they obv got a HUGE chance of finishing #1 in 2018.
2018-07-23 18:14
#206
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United States 4PP135 
OpTic has consistently beaten Ence so... other than that, this is probably what is going to happen
2018-07-23 16:45
#208
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United Kingdom SLurSs 
MIBR 3 OMEGOlul fnatic 5 OMEGAlul
2018-07-23 16:50
#216
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Denmark lulgod 
Funny how you're not talking about Noobs in pyjamas getting overrated :D
2018-07-23 17:27
BIG mibr nip renegades? ROFL big and renegades not even top 15 at the end of the year mibr top 10 and nip maybe in top 15 if they kick get right
2018-07-23 17:11
#215
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Denmark lulgod 
renegades is already top 15 and no doubt they'll stay in top 15 (if they stay together)
2018-07-23 17:26
3. MiBR It's true that you cannot judge a team on one BO3, but why are you judging your prediction off? Nothing alludes to that they will become good again.
2018-07-23 17:17
#214
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Denmark lulgod 
out of you 10 favorite players 5 of them are from MIBR. Now it makes sense why you would add that shitshow all the way up. And sweden not biased at all??? NIP ABOVE MOUSE, NORTH, OPTIC, Renegades etc. jesus what is this.. and fnatic top 5? wtf. and BIG shouldn't be that high because they had 1 good tourney. And navi above astralis? wtf are you on??
2018-07-23 17:26
1navi???? U mean electros1mple vincere =DDDD
2018-07-23 17:28
Believe or not tyloo should be in top 15. What is ENCE? How can they get ranking points?
2018-07-23 17:31
#219
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Lithuania Tocha 
stopped reading after 3. MIBR
2018-07-23 17:39
1. Natus Vincere 2. Mousesports 3. Astralis 4. FaZe 5. Fnatic 6. Cloud9 7. Liquid 8. North 9. Optic 10. Renegades 11. G2 12. NiP 13. Virtus.Pro 14. BIG 15. MIBR
2018-07-23 18:22
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