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Japanese come here.
United Kingdom Ginoe 
How to start learning japanese? And in future what I should do to keep it improving (no way i'll move to Japan) ?
2018-07-23 11:20
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Germany Dayjay 
How about just buying a book to start with?
2018-07-23 11:21
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United Kingdom Ginoe 
Can you recommend any?
2018-07-23 11:22
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Germany Dayjay 
I heard the Genki books are good or at least the most common ones. I use books written in German ,they probably won't help you.
2018-07-23 11:25
I thought you know some books that are focused on learning, but still thanks for your efforts
2018-07-23 11:27
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Germany Dayjay 
The Genki books are for learning the language?
2018-07-23 11:28
oh my bad, i was sure that this is some kind of novels :P
2018-07-23 11:29
what's your level of japanese if i can ask, I am just curious?
2018-07-23 11:32
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Germany Dayjay 
Just started myself some weeks ago, but still stuck at learning hiragana and katakana. But ofcourse I can say und understand some very basic stuff already.
2018-07-23 11:43
thanks for answer, good luck in future dawg
2018-07-23 11:45
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Germany Dayjay 
thanks m8, you too
2018-07-23 11:46
But ofcourse I can say "und" understand some very basic stuff already.
2018-07-23 12:46
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Germany Dayjay 
woops
2018-07-23 12:47
np
2018-07-23 12:48
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Spain Kyuuta 
Marugoto books
2018-07-23 13:27
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Europe NeO_RiGhT 
He said "Japanese come here."
2018-07-23 11:39
all help is good dude
2018-07-23 11:40
Because HLTV is thriving with Japanese people?
2018-07-23 12:07
heh
2018-07-23 13:28
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Bulgaria squezzi 
duolingo
2018-07-23 11:22
#5
United Kingdom Ginoe 
You know any apps except duolingo that might help?
2018-07-23 11:23
Lingodeer Anki (for flashcards) Jisho (dictionary)
2018-07-23 12:06
thanks :)
2018-07-23 12:07
Although with lingodeer you may only get to B1/B2 level. Duolingo is better (more elaborate), however lingodeer has a superior and more efficient learning path.
2018-07-23 12:12
good to hear, have you personally tried them?
2018-07-23 12:44
I did placement test for Japanese and got up to level 7 (duolingo) Using lingodeer to learn Korean right now - used duolingo before, but lingodeer is much better at embedding information into your brain.
2018-07-23 13:07
wow, how you achieved it ?
2018-07-23 13:08
For me it was easy, as (in my opinion) Japanese and Korean grammar seem relatively similar.
2018-07-23 13:09
now i am kinda impressed master
2018-07-23 13:12
Yes, you may refer to me as sensei.
2018-07-23 13:13
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Germany sanos 
watch hentai without subtitles every day for one hour plus no fap therapy for 1 month u ll speak fluent japanese in no time
2018-07-23 11:22
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United Kingdom Ginoe 
Dude my question is serious, so I require serious answers in advance.
2018-07-23 11:24
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Italy drkrios 
what did you expect from hltv.
2018-07-23 13:25
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Myanmar Lemo2K 
It actually works I got a friend who watched anime everyday and after one year he could understand almost every word they said
2018-07-23 13:32
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Serbia sensei256 
Yeah, it's pretty efficient but the problem is you cannot read it at all and you won't speak it very well either.
2018-07-23 13:58
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Myanmar Lemo2K 
No but when you visit Japan you can fake that you don't understand YOU KNOW 😏
2018-07-23 18:29
+1 i can attest to this. it's an old japanese recipe to success
2018-07-23 13:22
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Poland MAGA2020 
i've watched over 500 anime in my life and now i can speak pretty much fluent japanese truth
2018-07-23 11:24
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United Kingdom Ginoe 
Can you name the best anime to learn with?
2018-07-23 11:25
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Poland MAGA2020 
one with the most episodes
2018-07-23 11:25
example?
2018-07-23 11:25
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Poland MAGA2020 
one piece actually i have no idea brother it was really just a joke
2018-07-23 11:26
oh
2018-07-23 11:28
I mean how are you going to learn to write in the 3 different languages/whatever they're called that Japanese has from watching anime when they rarely show up and have no way to translate it. Sure you can speak Japanese but that is the easy part, the hard part comes from the written part of the language.
2018-07-23 12:08
Do you mean the 3 different alphabets? The language is always the same as far as I know. If it's that, I can assure you that 2 out of the 3 aren't that hard to learn. Hiragana and Katakana atleast follow certain rules, so it ain't impossible to learn (I myself have learned Hiragana on a basic level in 2 days and I'll start with Katakana soon). I think the real problem might be Kanji, because there are thousands and they all have different meanings for words.
2018-07-23 12:18
Hiragana and Katakana are both harder than speaking Japanese, he isn't saying it is impossible to learn it but learning it from anime won't help much.
2018-07-23 12:22
Ah, I misread it then. My bad! :)
2018-07-23 12:24
you can learn hiragana and katakana in a day, they're very easy
2018-07-23 16:32
watch anime
2018-07-23 11:26
which one?
2018-07-23 11:28
as much as you can
2018-07-23 11:30
i don't want to become fat weeb
2018-07-23 11:30
is the only method
2018-07-23 11:34
there need to be other ways master
2018-07-23 11:35
Tbh anime actually helps you to learn common phrases and words. Also the language specific expressions as well. I want to learn japanese too because it's kinda similar to Turkish, both are agglutinative languages and forming a sentence is similar. But my only concern is Kanji. But unluckily, learning Japanase would be harder for you since English is not agglutinative and phonetic (Japanese is kinda phonetic and Turkish is an almost fully phonetic language) so you should learn a new way of thinking and a new way of forming sentences.
2018-07-23 12:02
Oh, very interesting read, thanks for help
2018-07-23 12:05
You're welcome. I can recommend some animes which are short (10-15 episodes) which helped me learn some Japanese, if you're interested here's some: -Hataroku Maou-Sama -Highschool DxD series -Death Note -Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka ? Series -Nagi No Asukara -Tokyo Ghoul Series That's all i can think of right now. (Trust me you won't become weeb)
2018-07-23 12:16
thanks
2018-07-23 12:43
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World ZMDR 
whats the point learning the language of a country with a declining population and international presence
2018-07-23 11:28
I want to know any exotic language and japanese sounds good for me
2018-07-23 11:30
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World ZMDR 
learn chinese. it sounds like shit but at least it will be useful in the future.
2018-07-23 11:31
It's very hard actually to learn all the letters that they use
2018-07-23 11:33
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World ZMDR 
most chinese people dont even know 20% of the chinese characters. everyday language only requires a very small portion of the chinese alphabet. also, japanese actually has 3 scripts, one of which is called kanji, which is basically just the chinese alphabet. so you cant escape chinese characters either way.
2018-07-23 11:35
So why do people say that among korean japanese and chinese the third one which is chinese is the hardest
2018-07-23 11:37
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World ZMDR 
speaking chinese is harder than any other language because of tones. the same word can mean many things depending on the tone you pronounce it with. as for writing chinese is easier than japanese imo.
2018-07-23 11:50
are you chinese btw?
2018-07-23 11:51
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World ZMDR 
nah i learned japanese till i graduated high school and i learned a tiny bit of chinese in my free time.
2018-07-23 11:55
oh thanks i was just curious
2018-07-23 11:55
I'm a native Chinese and upon encountering Japanese I found it so much harder to learn. IMO you only have to know about 2000 common words/phrases in Chinese in order to communicate with native Chinese people. Japanese just has so many weird variations lol Best of luck with your endeavours XD
2018-07-23 12:23
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Japan Neion4ty7 
he is right. Writing Japanese is harder than writing chinese, speaking vice versa
2018-07-23 12:54
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
that's because most of chinese are useless...we know how to write 100% characters in daily life (if people went to middle school). the 80% u r talking about are either characters that even we dont know or it's traditional chinese.
2018-07-23 14:37
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Russia Gresskaret 
So you can tell that Chinese isn't that hard? Which dialect would you recommend for business(including touristic field) purposes?
2018-07-23 15:08
#137
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
mandarin is the most popular dialect in china, second is cantonese. But cantonese is not very useful except in hongkong, macau and guangdong. Most of people can speak fluent mandarin, including guangdong. For foreigners, they wont blame u if u can only speak mandarin (if u r from other province and speak other dialect except of the one they speak there, some people might dislike u). I would say, nowadays, only old people from rural area cant speak mandarin. Therefore, mandarin is the best dialect in china to learn (i know u wont tho) xD
2018-07-23 15:18
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
btw, yes, chinese is not that hard like u see. because just like english, there are so many words with less, ness, un, im, in it. so does chinese. if u just learn each part. and learn pron (by pinyin). It is not that hard.
2018-07-23 15:19
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Russia Gresskaret 
I might learn it in the future. I think you can meet Chinese people in any part of the globe nowadays. Even in my village, you get more chances to get a better job if you work in the service sector and know the language since there are many Chinese people living here and most of the tourists are from China. Thanks for the information
2018-07-25 06:26
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World ZMDR 
exactly
2018-07-23 16:12
#143
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
where r u from, how do u know this much about other language
2018-07-23 16:12
#144
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World ZMDR 
grew up in australia, born asian, have a lot of chinese speaking friends
2018-07-23 16:14
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
i'm in australia now lol
2018-07-23 16:30
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World ZMDR 
thats cool. im on the west coast, where people never visit.
2018-07-23 16:59
#154
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
pink ocean is beautiful there
2018-07-24 07:23
Chinese is even harder than Japanese though, they have like 20x the Kanji
2018-07-23 12:09
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World ZMDR 
yes but you dont need to know most of them
2018-07-23 12:57
You need to know more than Japanese
2018-07-23 13:07
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Japan Neion4ty7 
Japanese kanji usually have mutiple readings per character, if i have chinese understood a majority have a single reading,(chinese does make more common use of more kanji as its its sole writing system but those characters still exist in Japanese kanji) Even with the characters meanings, a kanji might have several extra meaning compared to its hanzi counterpart. There arent 20x more kanji in chinese its literally almost the same set of characters more or less. Differences being stroke order, readings and number of meaning. Do you need to know more Kanji to function in china compared to Japan? Yes But knowing 2000 kanji properly is a lot harder in Japanese than in chinese. edit. This was for meant for #71
2018-07-23 13:31
I blame my weeb friend for telling me otherwise, I'd still consider Chinese harder, you can easily pick up basic Japanese words from hearing it being spoken, I've heard Chinese and still don't know a single word but cao ni ma
2018-07-23 13:35
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Japan Neion4ty7 
yeah, as I have said in another comment, Reading and writing Japanese is harder than chinese. speaking chinese is a lot harder than speaking Japanese.
2018-07-23 13:36
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
lmao follow me. ni zhen de niu pi (u r really awesome)
2018-07-23 14:39
I don't really have a need to learn Chinese, I was bored and watched some Chinese TV and it was so hard to follow, it literally sounded like the exact same thing was being sad.
2018-07-23 22:59
#155
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
anyway, knowing cao ni ma is enough
2018-07-24 07:25
#52
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Greenland Jardeet 
Korean is the easiest East Asian language to learn
2018-07-23 11:52
The problem is that no one actually uses it, and it's no save to go to Korea anyway
2018-07-23 11:53
Some hentai,,,, Japanese porno, asa akira
2018-07-23 11:29
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Australia JingleBells 
Im fluent in Japanese and have been teaching it for almost 30 years. hmu if youre interested in having private lessons.
2018-07-23 11:37
dude you sound like a scam
2018-07-23 11:38
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Australia JingleBells 
whys that
2018-07-23 14:08
hontouni?
2018-07-23 12:09
what sir?
2018-07-23 12:50
means "really?/truthfully?"
2018-07-23 13:02
ok now i trust you you seem legit
2018-07-23 13:04
whats the Point of learning japanes?Learn spanish or Mandarin but not this shit.
2018-07-23 11:41
Who uses spanish in real life ?
2018-07-23 11:47
second most nativ speakers of all languages. Who uses japanes except for watching animes or reading Manga?
2018-07-23 12:55
most of big companies are based in Japan
2018-07-23 12:56
Not really.There are some but not many.
2018-07-23 12:58
And for what people use spanish?
2018-07-23 12:59
For talking?!With spanish you have a huge amount of people who are speaking it too so it gets more useful. Many companys today need spanish speaking people for Business reasons.
2018-07-23 13:43
I see your point
2018-07-23 13:45
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Faroe Islands memento_1 
point fucking weebo!?
2018-07-23 11:44
i will be able to understand japanese people when i will actually come to Japan
2018-07-23 11:46
I want to learn english
2018-07-23 11:44
I can give you private lessons
2018-07-23 11:46
i think i can talk, but i miss so many words
2018-07-23 13:21
so maybe learn them?
2018-07-23 13:23
sorry?
2018-07-23 13:23
think about the words you find useful and then translate them to english and study them hard
2018-07-23 13:25
ok, i think if i watch video with english sub will be better to me
2018-07-23 13:27
that can also work :)
2018-07-23 13:27
ty <3
2018-07-23 13:28
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Sweden KarlXII 
2018-07-23 11:46
which books can you recommend ?
2018-07-23 11:47
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Sweden KarlXII 
Ouf, not sure mate, since i never tried learning Asian language. Check this one: youtube.com/watch?v=VHhC8lswhKE idk? :P
2018-07-23 11:48
still thanks for your help, as i see you gave some useful things :)
2018-07-23 11:49
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Sweden KarlXII 
No probs ^^
2018-07-23 12:22
kys weeb
2018-07-23 11:49
I am not even close to being weeb
2018-07-23 11:50
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Greenland Jardeet 
Ok weeb
2018-07-23 11:53
ok you got me
2018-07-23 11:53
#57
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Poland ULTRALUL 
asa akira will give you private lessons ;)
2018-07-23 11:55
I'll stick to books
2018-07-23 11:56
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Korea AlexeS5386 
Cmon man it would be nice to have her give you private lessons
2018-07-23 12:01
If you are beginner definitely Genki is the best choice for basic grammar and vocabulary. I highly recommend learning kanji as soon as you can read hiragana and katakana. This will allow you to understand sentences with words that you have never heard but you know kanji for them. If you need I can pw Genki pdfs for first and second edition.
2018-07-23 12:00
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Korea AlexeS5386 
I would like that if you could :) I am trying to learn but Asa didnt wanna give me private lessons so had to find another way haha
2018-07-23 12:02
Yeah i would appreciate that, thanks in advance my polish friend. :)
2018-07-23 12:04
Is it possible to live in Japan just by talking Japanese and not knowing the alphabet and ability to write in Japanese ?
2018-07-23 12:19
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Japan Neion4ty7 
Just talking? Sure, if you are in major cities they often have English signs. I would at least try to get Hiragana and katakana (the 2 easiest scripts. easily learned in like 1 month max) down(kanji you can get around with OCR apps i guess). Writing, uhh a lot of shit still use physical documents that need signing but im going to assume any government/municipal ones would have English versions im sure you could just make some Japanese friends to help you out with those anyway. A lot of ALTs seem to come with like no Japanese language skills anyway, although i guess their dispatch company supports them in those cases.
2018-07-23 13:01
I was planning to learn Hiragana and Katakana only, kanji seems hard for now. Thanks for explaining, i hope i can learn the language. I have one more question, I want to learn it myself, without lessons and assistance, is it possible to learn it from internet/videos and anime only ?
2018-07-23 13:39
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Japan Neion4ty7 
Yeah, the Kanas and grammer stuff is easily self taught with videos and textbooks (plenty of piratebay downloads im sure). I wouldnt try learning to speak through anime though, you arent going to be using ore, omae, anta(rude form of anata) and stuff in real convos nor should you (ore is probably passable but I would stick with Watashi when talking to superiors or strangers). Look boku, when you are like older than 16 just sounds gay, I used ore cause it sounded cooler through high school but i wouldn't as an adult, or at least i try not to(its become a habit). Learn how to speak as the textbook says for a base then build up through like Japanese shows while filtering out anything said by highschoolers(when they talk to superiors should be fine), gangster types. At a certain point when you got all the "forms" and stuff like Keigo nailed you will be able to just pick out words from anime and such anyway though. If possible I would just talk to Japanese people online im pretty sure there are sites with ones that will talk to you in exchange for practicing their English. Read aloud as well, shonen jump manga usually has furigana(kana subtitles for kanji). Compare it to a native speaker or the tts on google translate.
2018-07-23 13:56
Haha thanks so much dude, i actually found a Japanese 52 y.o dude who speaks fluent Turkish (self-taught) and giving Japanese lessons for beginners. I thought about starting from there, and my roommate is interested in Japanese too, we will start learning together (we can practice conversations this way too) and he has bunch of written stuff about learning Japanese. Thanks again for explaining, it really helped!
2018-07-23 14:00
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Japan Neion4ty7 
Good luck man, for speaking having a native to speak with, is the best method by far.
2018-07-23 14:02
Why do you want to learn Japanese if your not going to Japan ever?
2018-07-23 13:09
in future i may go, but right now I just can't leave anything
2018-07-23 13:13
O_O
2018-07-23 13:09
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Japan Neion4ty7 
To keep improving vocab and shit? Read in Japanese, novels (reading aloud can keep your pronunciation in check, at least thats what i do cause since living in Aus i don't really use it) whatever there is plenty of good literature that isnt just "weeb shit". Looking up any unfamiliar words and kanji is easy with OCR apps or if you use electronic sources just copy and paste that text in something like jisho.org
2018-07-23 13:16
thanks for help
2018-07-23 13:17
Dont learn language which is so useless abroad Japan. I would rather recommend you to learn French or Spanish than Japanese. Maybe even Chinese is a better option.
2018-07-23 14:32
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
if u want to learn japanese just because anime, dont do that. However, It would be good if u just learn some common sentence like konichiwa. To learn it in a proper way, would be waste of time. Also, there are not so many japanese in other countries, and their population is decreasing.
2018-07-23 14:43
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Finland em7 
Just watch a lot of anime and you will learn words like: kisama, yamero, chikusho, naruhodo
2018-07-23 14:46
Yikikatashama!
2018-07-23 15:22
Why not learn a European language. Japan has no where near the same international presence it used to have. Learn French, my french is excellent. Brilliant for the future, developing west Africa... second official EU language. Learn Spanish due to just how many people speak it. Developing South America. Portuguese, amazing language, as Brazil develops Portuguese will probably become a staple language in the future. Japanese has no real use, you always look a little weird if you can speak it due to it being associated with weebism and general japanophilia.
2018-07-23 15:26
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World word_exe 
Learn Japanese To Survive - Hiragana Battle Learn Japanese To Survive - Katakana War These are 2 games on steam to help learn Hiragana and Katakana friend. Enjoy :-)
2018-07-23 15:48
Japanese people: i love your Uniball pens, your Nissin Cup Noodles Sea Food and many of your beautiful girls. That´s it! Cheers!
2018-07-23 16:15
genetickanji.com/ use this + anki 4 hrs /day imabi.net/ here for grammar Rest of the time, read visual novels
2018-07-23 16:50
n-nani?
2018-07-23 16:59
omae wa mou shindeiru, op
2018-07-23 17:00
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