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Ast, TL, Na'Vi, FaZe to playoffs
World Sigmatization 
TL;DR Group A Ast > TL C9 > MIBR TL > C9 Group B Na'VI > Mouz FaZe > Fnatic FaZe > Mouz Reasonings: Astralis vs Team Liquid It’s been said and done many times already. Astralis has historically been the better side when compared to TL.. In the past 5 times these two have faced up against each other since Dreamhack Marseilles, Astralis has emerged the victor in Bo1, Bo3, as well as Bo5. TL have managed to take two maps off of Astralis’ back, but even those were 16-14 wins. To be fair, Astralis also has two 16-14 wins off off TL’s back, with four other maps going into double digits. Heading into this, device and Magisk have been putting up great numbers so far, with Twistzz and NAF being the powerhouses for Team Liquid. Other than that, it depends on who shows up. So far TL’s players have been in the green, but that’s also in due part to MIBR still being a little messy with tarik’s gradual integration into the squad. At the very least, this factor will be an advantage for Astralis. Map-wise, any map that TL plays on, Astralis can hit back equally, if not harder. Only heroic individual plays from TL’s stars can pull this team through Astralis. Will TL finally break their curse? Probably not but who am I to say so anyway. Perhaps a 2-0 if TL’s stars don’t show, a 2-1 likely given dupreeh and gla1ve’s slow starts. MIBR vs C9 This matchup will be a little more difficult to gauge as C9 have two stand-ins to be considered, while MIBR have 1. Despite so, C9 seemed more cohesive in their matchup, being able to push Inferno into overtime versus Astralis. Meanwhile, MIBR hadn’t touched double digits versus TL, but then again that is to be forgiven considering how well oiled the TL machine is now. Forms considered, C9 are likely to take this matchup. Individual contribution so far has been pretty sparse on the MIBR side, but again this is due in part to the lack of won rounds, as well as tarik’s integration. Nonetheless, coldzera and Stewie at the bottom of the scoreboard there is a cause of concern. Meanwhile on C9, the main three C9 players have been doing well, with stand-ins STYKO and Golden posting at the bottom of the board, as is the case with many stand-in cases (barring Cromen and Xizt in FaZe from the past few times) Maps considered, C9 should have the better end of the draw, considering how MIBR have been pretty lackluster in terms of their maps. A 2-1 is most likely, considering MIBR can put up good numbers versus C9 from time to time. Let’s hope that Wednesday is one of those times. Otherwise, it’s a 2-1 for C9 TL vs C9 In this matchup that has been done as much to death as Astralis versus Team Liquid has, it seems undoubtable that TL will be the one to make it to the playoffs. Individual firepower on C9 is almost comparable, but is pretty difficult to say they’re on the same level considering how on fire the stars on TL have been. Map pool considered as well, TL’s trumps C9’s. A good 2-0 to be expected from this matchup. Na’Vi vs mousesports Hot off of their ESL One Cologne win, and showing some pretty good fire so far with s1mple leading the charge, it seems Na’Vi will take this. But we’ll have to see for sure how it goes, considering Na’Vi sometimes fails to win even with s1mple going ham. If electronic shows up as well, it will be no doubt that Na’Vi will win this 2-0 Map pool wise, Na’Vi have the edge over mousesports. Mouz’ 2-1 win versus FaZe, however, should not be downplayed as the EU mix are no strangers to playing with olof back in the roster. Some may argue Na’Vi’s performance versus fnatic was not too convincing, but I would argue otherwise considering draken and Xizt’s stabilization into the team. All in all, 2-1 likely for Na’Vi. Fnatic vs FaZe. Fnatic draw the short end of the stick here, as FaZe, even with olof’s reintegration into the roster, are a force to be reckoned with. Despite a good showing vs FaZe in ESL One Cologne, it seems unlikely that the Swedes will overcome FaZe with olof on it. Nonetheless, they can surely give them a run for their money, as Fnatic are pretty decent thus far, even managing to take a map off of Na’Vi Map pool wise, FaZe are in the green, with fnatic sort of falling short as they will still need to fit draken into the awping role properly, which takes some time considering how GuardiaN is hitting his shots. Even if FaZe slip up like Train versus Mouz, it’s likely that they’ll come out the victors here 2-1. FaZe vs mousesports. This will be asking too much of Snax if mousesports were to win this over FaZe. However so, an upset win from Mousesports seems likely. Considering how it’s already happened already, nothing’s to say it won’t happen again. A key factor in today’s game that was very hard to miss was rain not turning up. One of the stars of the team not turning up generally isn’t a dooming thing on the team, but FaZe could have closed out the game had he not been lagging behind. Can’t blame him surely, as this was just one game. Maybe this time around he’ll pull his team through? It may be a one off thing, but heaven-forbid if it were to happen again, it might swing in Mouz’s favour. For the moment, am rolling with a 2-1 for FaZe
2018-07-23 13:48
If I may be wrong in my train of thought, please let me know
2018-07-23 13:48
Yeah good thread
2018-07-23 14:33
many thanks <3
2018-07-23 14:40
Unlike a lot of threads it took scenarios where top 5 teams make it to playoffs this made sense!
2018-07-23 14:41
I try my best honestly. At this point my method is just extrapolating based on past performances haha. But honestly, it's hard to say since there's only been 1 game played out so far, so I'm just speculating based on the common trend. Again, I appreciate the kind words! :D
2018-07-23 14:44
(: Reply needs to have actual content
2018-07-23 15:20
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Denmark Stappen 
+1 good thread
2018-07-23 13:50
Much thank <3
2018-07-23 13:53
#3
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Denmark SuperstituM 
> “FaZe > mouz” +1
2018-07-23 13:51
They could have closed out train, but I doubt they'd repeat the same mistake twice. Will be hoping to see them bring their A game vs Fnatic and mouz again! :D
2018-07-23 13:53
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s1mple | 
United Kingdom UKGOD 
Nice read
2018-07-23 13:54
Cheers, mate. I do my best Which probably doesn't mean much, but thanks anyway :D
2018-07-23 14:03
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s1mple | 
United Kingdom UKGOD 
Be proud of yourself already by not baiting your one of the best users on this site
2018-07-23 14:16
#7
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Romania garyyz 
quality content
2018-07-23 13:54
thank <3
2018-07-23 14:02
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NiKo | 
Andorra nikolof 
hey thorin
2018-07-23 13:57
DEVICE MVP Kappa
2018-07-23 14:01
your pronunciation of S1mple is not correct
2018-07-23 14:51
but that would mean s1mple MVP Kappa and we all kinda know that s1mple absolutely can be MVP without kappa
2018-07-23 15:06
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Lekr0 | 
Russia Mifa1337 
if electronic would claim the MVP dat would be good
2018-07-23 15:12
+1, he is doing a lot of work for NaVi recently, happy for the kid, hope he will improve on his consistency, so he can become beast as Sasha
2018-07-23 16:16
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Ukraine Vladik69wife 
All you should have said is: End of the day it's EZ 4 NaVi
2018-07-23 13:57
Yeah but this is just for playoffs haha. Will make one for when Na'Vi (potentially but likely) win the finals as well
2018-07-23 14:02
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United States trump2020 
Elige is the power house bro. Twistzz naf are hella good but liquids main man is elige.
2018-07-23 14:04
Elige was 2nd last on the board versus MIBR. Am hoping this isn't a repeat performance because I'd like to see him up-and-at'em versus Astralis later
2018-07-23 14:41
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United States trump2020 
Dude elige had 2 less kills. He always gets a lot of deaths from entry and always hunts players saving. Elige is the best player on liquid best in NA and in top10 this year.
2018-07-23 14:59
Fair enough. Guess I was putting too much weight into KPR rather than looking at whether those frags were impact frags. Will take this into consideration the next time I write something up. Thanks ! :D
2018-07-23 15:05
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United States trump2020 
Just wish liquid would drop taco. Could be a real contender for top spot.
2018-07-23 15:06
Suppose they do drop Taco though, who would be a good pick up for the team? Support players aren't usually a dime a dozen but there sure are a few good names out there, I believe
2018-07-23 15:07
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United States trump2020 
Support is over rated we need a awper. But no such thing as a NA tier 1 awper. Grab cerq/auti/nahte/breeze/rush/ or grab a tier 2 awper from EU Btw cerq is tier1 but he is a EU guy playing in NA. NAitself doesn’t have tier1 awpers that’s why we gota bring them in.
2018-07-23 15:18
Now this I agree. I doubt NRG will let CeRq go considering how well he's playing on the team unless TL pay off a huge buyout. I'd recommend Rickeh since he used to awp on renegades but not too sure how he'd function now anyway in a T1 team. Yeah EU awpers seem like the way to go at this point honestly, at least it'll take some pressure off of Nitr0
2018-07-24 01:05
exciting to read, n1
2018-07-23 14:20
thanks !
2018-07-23 14:42
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France herdzort 
Wow First time i see some one with a text like that and evryone +1 him ! Good job mate ! Nice read btw
2018-07-23 14:27
Eyy, I appreciate your words ! :D
2018-07-23 14:43
oh yes but when i do i get autististists
2018-07-24 01:19
i hope Liquid vs Na`Vi final but firstly both teams finish top in groups yes?
2018-07-23 14:29
TL finishing top of groups would be a little difficult. Likely Na'Vi would top their group, but TL come in second, and that would mean a Na'Vi vs TL semi-finals immediately :/
2018-07-23 14:42
and directly grand final names astralis vs navi agian xd
2018-07-23 14:52
rematch of the matchup from Cologne? Absolutely would love to see that as a finals pairing
2018-07-23 15:07
yep,maybe amazing final
2018-07-23 15:07
Good thread! :)
2018-07-23 14:44
Many thanks!
2018-07-23 14:46
who cares
2018-07-23 14:44
I'm sorry you feel this way Hope I didn't offend you or anything
2018-07-23 14:46
Wow, you are lame as f.
2018-07-23 14:53
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Lekr0 | 
Russia Mifa1337 
Good work, bro!
2018-07-23 15:13
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fer | 
Brazil GodSnow 
Although I am a fan of Mibr, I agree 100% with you. Good thread!!!
2018-07-23 15:23
thanks ! :D
2018-07-24 01:05
Nicely written bro, today at 6 PM CET HLTV Writers Will alsof publish predictions + vetoes.
2018-07-23 15:26
good thread :)
2018-07-24 01:18
cheers mate! :D
2018-07-24 13:41
np
2018-07-24 14:36
C9 > MiBR? XAXAXAXAXA
2018-07-24 01:18
I mean I did present my reasoning behind my thoughts lol. If there's anything that I hadn't considered though, please let me know
2018-07-24 01:48
So C9 with 2 standins that played like shit will win a Bo3 vs SK with Tarik, that actually played pretty decent on one of the maps vs Liquid.
2018-07-24 01:49
I mean with 2 standins they manage to push Inferno into Overtime against one of the best teams in the world, but MIBR with Tarik didn't hit double digits on either of the maps versus TL. But then again, that's just my reasoning. I understand if you have your own.
2018-07-24 01:53
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Albania Mamluku 
finally a good content. but hey, all u said is bullshit cuz #fanlogic xP
2018-07-24 01:22
//blocks you like Thorin when I'm salty kappa
2018-07-24 01:48
faze had better not fuck up twice against mous. If rain and guardian can get their heads in the game and they tighten up their communication, there is no way they should lose the same series again
2018-07-24 01:57
If they mess up versus Mouz, it certainly spells bad for the team. They can't really pull out the olof excuse since the other 3 stars are still there to put work in it. Hoping to see rain put up good numbers again
2018-07-24 02:08
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