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Worst IGL?
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Europe god_of_hltv 
MSL i think
2018-07-23 16:47
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#1
sergej | 
Estonia levixyo 
agree
2018-07-23 16:48
MSL bad but not worst(ange1 worst)
2018-07-25 19:08
Say whaaat. Ange1's actually decent imo, why do you think he's bad ?
2018-07-26 00:10
#2
Aleksib | 
Finland jrhg0dx 
karrigan
2018-07-23 16:49
#10
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Europe god_of_hltv 
he sucks but not the worst
2018-07-23 16:51
tier 1 teams
2018-07-23 16:51
#14
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Europe god_of_hltv 
yh that’s what I meant
2018-07-23 16:53
#15
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Europe god_of_hltv 
lmfao faze wouldn’t have signed him if he was the worst
2018-07-23 16:53
#114
fer | 
North America pureGOD 
they had to because no one wants to play in faze "superteam" hahaha
2018-07-23 20:29
Karrigan suck but not worst (Niko worst)
2018-07-23 20:26
#117
NiKo | 
France Dealotts 
reported
2018-07-23 20:33
why
2018-07-23 22:22
#42
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Look at faze before karrigan, and then after karrigan. Why do you think they can do so well with subs and get 3-4 players playing at top form allin the same team. Karrigan is an extremely good IGL
2018-07-23 17:15
#50
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
karrigan was good with kio and allu in the team now he is just meh, his calling is worse and worse and the team has no structure
2018-07-23 17:23
#55
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Ukraine Vladik1337 
Seems like they are good without it so why change
2018-07-23 17:40
#56
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Karrigan has to handle 3 players who have been told their whole career that they are the best, he has to manage their egos and personalities whilst putting them in positions to put up the numbers that they still manage. He may not pass the eye test as an igl but the amount of work he puts in both on and off of the server is pretty insane. His strats aren’t as impressive as a team like astralis’ because he doesn’t have players who will listen to and follow minutely detailed spots. They all just want to frag and be stars.
2018-07-23 17:42
#57
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
then their attitudes need to change
2018-07-23 17:48
#63
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
That’s not a reason that Karrigan is a bad IGL. The fact is that their attitudes won’t change. It’s why usually you can’t have multiple top tier players on a team. Karrigan manages them and lets them make insane plays
2018-07-23 17:57
#181
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Austria swehy 
karrigan is one of the best IGLs out there ... lol tell me 4-5 who are better ?
2018-07-26 00:08
Chrisj Gla1ve Zeus Fallen ex6tenz
2018-07-26 12:11
#185
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Austria swehy 
Chrisj, Fallen ex6tenz are atm not as good as karrigan or where is Mibr and G2 ? Karrigan won 2 titels with Stand Ins, he had to integrate them in the roster with only 2-3 weeks preperation, still he managed 2 titels with 2 diffrent stand ins !
2018-07-26 21:57
worst igl was kicked and no-one knows about him now
2018-07-23 16:49
#7
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Taiwan JizzMasterZer0 
pronax
2018-07-23 16:50
8/8
2018-07-23 18:54
Pronax_3_majors_MSL_0
2018-07-23 19:00
#12
Zeus | 
Ukraine One1ove 
Agree with this answer! Worst can't be the PRO
2018-07-23 16:52
slemmy
2018-07-23 16:56
On T1/T2 it's either Karrigan or MSL
2018-07-23 16:50
#21
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Sweden Maoux551 
gla1ve>karrigan>zeus>fallen>gob b>ex6tenz>chrisj>nitro>msl>golden>xizt>lekr0
2018-07-23 17:01
gla1ve is a bitch
2018-07-23 17:03
#24
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Sweden Maoux551 
ok
2018-07-23 17:03
#53
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
ex6tenz before great igls like chris, xizt, golden
2018-07-23 17:24
>xizt >Great IGL Pick one
2018-07-24 00:16
#140
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
better than ex6tenz
2018-07-24 00:49
I can honestly say that that is wrong
2018-07-24 21:47
#166
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
what has ex6tenz ever achieved in csgo?
2018-07-24 21:50
Pronax has won 3 majors doesn't change the fact that he's a gargabge IGL
2018-07-25 02:07
#168
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
lmao when did we talk about pronx? ex6tenz is shit he has never achieved anything and will never achieve anything pronax goat btw
2018-07-25 02:08
All im saying is that achievement isnt worth much rn
2018-07-25 19:07
#171
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
so how do you measure an igls effectiveness?
2018-07-25 19:08
Demo watching and seeing how much the player adds to the team
2018-07-25 19:12
#174
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
lmao so hunden is the goat igl, he has the best strats and adds the most to alternate attax
2018-07-25 19:15
Don't disrespect hunden
2018-07-25 19:17
#176
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
lmao 8/8 bait btw
2018-07-25 19:17
Thanks
2018-07-26 00:05
karrigan > zeus 0/8
2018-07-23 17:05
#31
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Sweden Maoux551 
Would you mind validating your opinion?
2018-07-23 17:11
Zeus won major, for example, Karrigan did not. What about you?
2018-07-23 17:21
#69
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
Lucky run, like the Clown9 major win, where is Gambit now? and where is Zeus skill? Well i cant see it anywhere so it must never have been there
2018-07-23 18:42
Exactly gambit is trash ever since zeus left, that just proves how good zeus was and he is certainly better than karrigan, when zeus come in the final he wins it, he doesn't choke as karrigan does.
2018-07-23 19:02
#99
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
Zeus chokes alot xD, he can almost never pull of more than 10 kills in 1 game, also his calls is just rush b rush a and lets elec and s1mple go get kills
2018-07-23 19:51
recent game vs Astralis says absolute opposite to what you typed here :>
2018-07-23 20:05
#124
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
1 30 bomb, with lucky kills, and look what i wrote "Almost" sometimes you can be extremly lucky like zeus was. You could put a MG1 in there and he will have better aim than zeus
2018-07-23 22:32
Salty.
2018-07-24 00:19
Zeus isn't a great IGL but his fragging is not why
2018-07-24 00:17
If you think c9's major win was a fluke, you're retarded. They beat all the then-top5 teams in the legends stage to win the major. You seem to just be mad astralis didn't make it out groups.
2018-07-23 20:29
#129
valde | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Yeah that's what a fluke is you play way above your level and then go back to normalcy and in c9s case much worse.
2018-07-24 00:09
#184
Jesus | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
karrigan is the reason fzae lost the major final
2018-07-26 12:46
yes
2018-07-23 17:59
#80
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Europe martos99 
really... you think Karrigan is a bad IGL??... from the TOP10 lets say I think Xizt is the worst ATM
2018-07-23 18:48
Give Xizt 1-2 months to show himself, maybe he will be fine with that Fnatic lineup. From what we saw on Karrigan - FaZe won tournaments only by Raw skill. There was no set-ups around someone (like Na`Vi around s1mple), only by pure overskilling. In my opinion there is completely no IGL work in what he does. Plus he chokes in important situations.
2018-07-23 20:05
#106
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Europe martos99 
well, the players know their skill ceiling and they probably want to play this more puggy style cause they know they can just outfrag teams
2018-07-23 20:11
#130
valde | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Theres skill teams and tactical teams karrigan knows how to make players feel comfortable in a system and give them freedom without letting them be completely individual. He also puts in an insane amount of work studying the games and demos and realistically is one of the better fragging IGLs in the top 10
2018-07-24 00:11
#5
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Russia AlexMove 
agree
2018-07-23 16:50
#6
PokeMon | 
United States Acetk 
HUNDEN Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa
2018-07-23 16:50
#8
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Brazil fallenzera_SK 
golden
2018-07-23 16:51
#71
mou | 
Ireland CaptainMou 
Nah, golden's a good IGL imo.
2018-07-23 18:45
All are good in they ways
2018-07-23 16:51
#25
f0rest | 
Germany Brazzen 
in they ways
2018-07-23 17:04
they ways
2018-07-23 17:51
#100
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United Kingdom TC10 
Ways of they
2018-07-23 20:01
haha
2018-07-23 20:02
Of the ways
2018-07-23 20:23
ways the of
2018-07-23 20:23
bit
2018-07-23 16:52
karrigayn
2018-07-23 16:54
ange1
2018-07-23 16:55
Happy
2018-07-23 16:56
#20
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Europe god_of_hltv 
nah
2018-07-23 16:57
Be ruined envy right now he is without a doubt the worst
2018-07-23 17:12
2 majors nt (including one major mvp btw)
2018-07-23 18:46
yes and your point? I say it again, worst igl right now.
2018-07-23 23:50
Still no arguments tho
2018-07-23 23:51
? destroyed envy doesnt know how to use his starplayers baiting much but not good at fragging terrible role distribution for his players no good reads strats are outdated ??? what is good about happy right now
2018-07-24 00:04
destroyed envy > Manage to stay in top30 when his 3 best players leaves doesnt know how to use his starplayers > The last star player he had was RPK and he was the best french player in 2017 (Scream O M E G A L U L) baiting much but not good at fragging > Always been a carry IGL and yes he is hard lurking but it wasn't an issu when he had players good enough to take a bombsite terrible role distribution for his players > role distribution is a team choice so???? no good reads > Impressive to achieve that much with bad reads xd strats are outdated > Actually a good point, he need fresh air and go play with internationnal team is good for him
2018-07-24 00:13
did you still not read the right now? right now bad reads yes he had good players with him, even avangar is in top 30 yes scream support, sixer awp like wtf what did he expect, I know its a team decision but igl can intervene and look directly after his leave Scream entrys again and posts big numbers, how come. plus his teammates dont want to play with him anymore, how come.
2018-07-24 00:21
#116
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Spain cart0n 
+1
2018-07-23 20:30
Any Gambit player
2018-07-23 17:02
#32
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CIS LRtx 
+1
2018-07-23 17:11
#41
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CIS imretarded 
opa tvoya mat' kapitan gambit
2018-07-23 17:15
#92
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Russia Danny__S 
8/8
2018-07-23 18:55
#26
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Sweden ALI_HUSSAIN 
zeus
2018-07-23 17:04
#27
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Germany Constikdw 
Probably xizt...sadly
2018-07-23 17:04
b1ad3
2018-07-23 17:10
B1d3 is coach, lol Every coach play bad
2018-07-23 17:14
he used to be F3's IGL
2018-07-23 17:21
#96
JW | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
Did you forget the 5 years he was propping up the bottom of the scoreboard?
2018-07-23 19:03
Xizt btw i am f0rest
2018-07-23 17:12
#44
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
nt taco
2018-07-23 17:16
nt smooya
2018-07-23 18:45
#82
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Jokes on you I’m dephh
2018-07-23 18:48
nt jide
2018-07-23 18:50
#98
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Jokes on you I’m taco
2018-07-23 19:08
#107
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CIS antishaakeh 
nt Surreal
2018-07-23 20:21
#118
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Well fuck you got me :(
2018-07-23 20:50
on t1 - Zeus or Karrigan
2018-07-23 17:13
But without Zeus NaVi isnt tier1
2018-07-23 17:14
#60
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Europe god_of_hltv 
if they get a better one of course
2018-07-23 17:53
Ange1 > Zeus
2018-07-23 17:59
Zeus win major, Ange1 win minor 0/8
2018-07-23 18:38
#97
JW | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
Majors aren’t everything. Pronax won 3, what the fuck is he doing now?
2018-07-23 19:03
Devilwalk won a major so devilwalk>s1mple???
2018-07-23 20:07
nt prokda
2018-07-23 18:46
Zeus
2018-07-23 17:13
xizt maybe fallen
2018-07-23 17:14
That 11 y/o bottomfragger on your team
2018-07-23 17:14
+1
2018-07-24 00:58
#43
JD | 
Poland Kebablizzu 
welp, u didn't see Cloud9 Slemmy I think
2018-07-23 17:15
He wasn't that bad Comming from a slemmy fan btw
2018-07-24 00:18
neo
2018-07-23 17:17
MSL > Nitr0 > Lekr0
2018-07-23 17:17
gambit igls
2018-07-23 17:17
Jokes aside its Hunden if we are talking about tier3 cs. In tier1 its Zeus.
2018-07-23 17:23
#143
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
zeus ? worst ? suck my dick
2018-07-24 01:02
Hes dogshit actualy.
2018-07-24 01:45
#145
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
yeah , only made navi an elite team. plz dont say that its simple flamie and electronic carrying the team and zeus has no contribution because that would make u look like an idiot
2018-07-24 01:50
Dude yeah he have some strats but u cant be called a good igl nowadays if u cant frag, thats all!
2018-07-24 03:18
#161
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Thats only your way of thinking. Igl = in game leader not in game fragger And zeus is a good player , he proved it against astralis when thorin talked shit about him , but he choses to bait himself for his team mates because simple , electronic , flamie are much better players
2018-07-24 12:34
#52
Edward | 
El Salvador Lunair 
Now - Lekr0
2018-07-23 17:24
Coldzera Kappa.
2018-07-23 17:24
#58
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Italy Kubyz 
ex coldzera
2018-07-23 17:50
#61
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Germany Sinpix 
gob b ofc.
2018-07-23 17:56
Ur opinion = wrong
2018-07-24 00:19
#62
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Europe RadduZEW 
ocean
2018-07-23 17:57
Zeus
2018-07-23 17:58
#67
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United States Thund4h 
+1 BOT Zeus
2018-07-23 18:15
#70
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Denmark Sir_Cumcised 
MSL
2018-07-23 18:42
#72
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Brazil Djentleman 
today? Fallen
2018-07-23 18:45
#75
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United States stotte 
tarik nitr0
2018-07-23 18:46
#76
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Brazil FaelEz 
NTC B1T
2018-07-23 18:46
#120
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Brazil TURBOguy 
BOT
2018-07-23 20:55
The problem with ntc and bit is that bit used to call a very srructured style whilst every other play based of feling which really don't align
2018-07-24 00:21
SEIZED BY FAR.
2018-07-23 18:46
taz, zeus, golden, hampus, tarik, snappi and sry but i forgot, rly sry m8s
2018-07-23 18:46
#83
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Russia Slavaa 
golden and hampus? ahahahhahahhhaa
2018-07-23 18:49
wuts wrong with u? HE SAID WORST, so mby even wasn't worst.. SO MBY UGLIEST, STUPID, AWFUL PIECE TERRIBLE HORRIBLE KIDS LIKE TAZ ZEUS GOLDEN HAMPUS TARIK SNAPPI AND MORE MORE CS GO KIDS, so what can i say my dear cuntinho, i have no idea.
2018-07-23 18:51
#86
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Russia Slavaa 
lul
2018-07-23 18:51
6/8 btw if it was true b8 but if not, well.. just 1 thinq - ur mada r almost ded, hurry UPINHO
2018-07-23 18:53
jesus stupid cringy a cis KIDOFNATIC fan, my eyes ;(
2018-07-23 18:53
dafuq r u here?
2018-07-23 18:54
Or dad forsaken u? btw he's faggot aswell :c
2018-07-23 18:54
#163
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Are u ok bro , im worried
2018-07-24 12:35
#81
EliGE | 
United States Jono13 
Pronax rip
2018-07-23 18:48
#93
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Sweden Akoulad 
ZEUS and MSL
2018-07-23 18:55
#105
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Poland kick_michu 
how IGL what won 3x major can be the worst IGL hltv is pure cancer
2018-07-23 20:09
#109
jOELZ | 
CIS kuuler 
seized
2018-07-23 20:23
I think nitr0
2018-07-23 20:25
You cannot determine if someone is a good igl or not if you haven't seen/heard them actually in game lead. what a stupid thread lmao
2018-07-23 20:30
#121
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Europe god_of_hltv 
yh pretty sure every 90+ IQ knows that so they take the question by pure gameplay
2018-07-23 20:57
#122
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Europe god_of_hltv 
but prodka brain doesn’t get that
2018-07-23 20:58
No
2018-07-24 12:23
#160
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Europe god_of_hltv 
well obviously you can’t say that cause of prodka brain!
2018-07-24 12:31
#119
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Brazil TURBOguy 
fallen but the worst in the world is bit1 or BOT1 (ntc)
2018-07-23 20:54
#128
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Brazil RyannLP 
WAVE
2018-07-24 00:06
North IGL NRG IGL and G2 IGL (i dont know who in every team)
2018-07-24 00:11
#142
tarik | 
North America IriTrev 
fns
2018-07-24 00:59
#146
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Brazil ReborN1 
shox for sure.
2018-07-24 02:42
#147
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Russia soulmate 
pronax obviously
2018-07-24 02:44
Seized and MSL
2018-07-24 02:45
nitr0,chrisj,lekr0,basically all the ones that pretend to be an igl but will never be a real one
2018-07-24 02:46
seized also
2018-07-24 02:47
Nbk when shox in surgery
2018-07-24 03:20
taz
2018-07-24 03:21
zeus
2018-07-24 12:24
#157
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United Kingdom suge 
MSL is a good IGL.. he generally micromanages a lot more than other IGLs and his individual game suffers as a result... there's a reason he's been in a top lineup for so long
2018-07-24 12:26
aizy
2018-07-24 12:27
#159
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Kazakhstan Diki_Diki 
Adren, mou, hobbit, seized, dosia
2018-07-24 12:29
Xizt and whoever calls in MiBR right now. I dont get all the Golden- hate, sure he is a botfragger but IGL- wise I think he is good and smart. Better aim and he would be top3.
2018-07-24 12:35
seized
2018-07-24 21:48
2017-18 Happy
2018-07-25 02:11
#177
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United States BLaCkKobRa 
Everyone who says Zeus made navi a top team, did u even watched the games? It's just s1mple/flame/electronic fragging hard, not Zeus brilliant strats, his strats are so freaking bad and he made navi lose tons of games with stupid force rounds that made them lose an extra round than what they should have lost
2018-07-25 19:18
stewie2k or coldzera
2018-07-25 19:22
#186
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Czech Republic fnx_2_majors 
-1000000000000000 existenz pure trash
2018-07-26 21:59
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4.24
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1.21
NiP
2.91
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1.43
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3.24
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3.42
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