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PLAYERS WHO SHOULD RETIRE
Happy | 
France happy_2_major_niko_0_major 
hello lady and gentlemen of HLTV.org just the other day we see Ukrainian legend Andrey "B1ad3" Gorodenskiy fianlly leave active FlipSid3 roster and move to coach position, this matters not because F3 are dead in the water and a coach will change nothing but that is besides the point. B1ad3 is big GOAT for CIS scene and he finally realise that his time has come. Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev tweeted this a little while ago to show his respect for B1ad3: twitter.com/s1mpleo/status/9887197665537.. this got me thinking, there is many loser pros who still hang around despite being past their sell by date and now they are stale milk, smell bad and nobody want them. to be fair, even if i was trash and i knew i was trash i wouldnt leave my $20k a month contract. we are also counting moving to coach as retiring so now we list these pros, some of them you might think "fuck yh Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major you're god damn right that guy blows" others you may think "fuck you Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major that person is still great". anyhow, without further ado let us begin. Christophe "SIXER" Xia currently playing for ex-EnVyUs/LeftOut. i respect SIXER tbh, i really do 1.6 legend, he takes all the hate he gets and still tries to keep playing, but he is pretty bad, your average AWPer from DMG is probably more consistent, respect to him but i am thinking his time has definitely come. Yegor "markeloff" Markelov currently plying for Flipsid3,much like SIXER, markeloff is a 1.6 legend, in fact he is probably the best 1.6 player to ever walk this earth, but all good things must come to an end, just like 1.6, just like Flipsid3 and especially his career. markeloff is true GOAT but it is definitely time he hang up his keyboard and mouse. his team also only has 2/5 players right now which means that it will most likely disband after many years and i doubt anyone will be picking up markeloff afterwards as he has been quite bad for a long time now. Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo currently playing for mibr, move to coach, retire, i dont care just get him away from a position of power where he can ruin other players careers to save his own. the problem with mibr isnt the fragging, its the IGL, whos fault is that, FalleN's, his solution, kick Ricardo "boltz" Prass who has done nothing wrong. terrible player and an even worse human being. Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert, currently teamless, n0thing is big man of NA, when you think NA CS n0thing is the first person to pop in to your head, unless you browse reddit in which case its Michael "shroud" Grzesiek but he blows and hes gone now anyway so we wont be speaking of him. some of you may even say n0thing technically has retired, he has been teamless now for nearly a year and has stood in for mousesports for one tournament in that time where his performance was mediocre at best, if you ask me n0thing should take the same road as his pal shroud, he is good at CS and is a known personality, his stream would be nice. i am thinking that really we are just waiting for n0thing's official note of retirement already. Mikail "Maikelele" Bill currently playing for (Digital)Chaos which to be quite honest surprises me as hes been in this team for more than a month which is such an achievement for him he might as well have won a major. Maikelele is notorious for his toxicity and that is the reason he can't stay on a team because nobody wants to play with him. he will never be on a top tier team again due to this, he isnt a trash players hes actually alright but nobody will want to play with him as skill does not make up for toxicity. he should really quit while he is ahead. Markus "pronax" Wallsten currently playing for (Digital)Chaos. pronax is king, 3x major winner but he really and i mean REALLY is past his sell by date, probably the most washed up pro ever. his career ended once he left fnatic and he has achieved literally N O T H I N G since then, he would be a good coach i think, good for any decent Swedish team, fnatic/NiP for example. if he had retired a while ago before he completely slandered his own name then coach would be perfect for him. Sad he couldn't be honest with himself :( Jaros?aw "pashaBiceps" Jarz?bkowski man is an icon, and fan favourite. admittedly he hasnt been doing as trash as he was a few months back but i think his time also has well and truly come, he had a great run, 1x Major winner, 1x Major MVP but he has a family that is more important, not even his fault that he has to retire, Virtus.Pro is a dead horse that has been drop kicked, hit by a train and then spat on by the Brazilian fans like they did to Space Soldiers. hope you guys enjoy this read, let me know if you think there is anyone else have nice day everyone :) -happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-07-23 18:19
but he is pretty bad, your average AWPer from DMG is probably more consistent +1
2018-07-23 18:22
thank Mr animecurescancer
2018-07-23 21:05
tldr
2018-07-23 18:23
#7
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France France98123 
same tbh
2018-07-23 19:31
#46
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Asia Mahathir62 
same tbh
2018-07-24 17:05
learn to read maybe
2018-08-01 10:33
#115
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Ukraine illinoize 
same tbh
2018-08-01 10:38
#118
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Australia CaoNiQuanJia 
same tbh
2018-08-05 09:29
#3
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia Chaoooss 
GTR and Neo
2018-07-23 19:12
#4
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
you have a pretty good analytical mind behind the baits
2018-07-23 19:18
#5
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Brazil NIGORZ 
I do respect your opinion however I don’t think the problem win MIBR is the igl. If fallen was still the best igl I don’t think that team would be as strong as previous versions simply because they have tried to become faze. So at times other teams had as much skill as them but their communication was unrivalled. Changing good team play for skill was a horrible move but still this lineup could become good it will just never be as good as the full Brazilian ones
2018-07-23 19:19
+1 but still -fallen :)
2018-07-23 19:29
#13
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Brazil NIGORZ 
-fallen he is pathetic before when he was asked if S1mple would be on sk he said only if he was a cleaner but then in March he begged for S1mple to carry him while getting baited by cold lol
2018-07-23 19:55
haha +1 same with boltz, he kick boltz back in the day then want him back when he start fragging then kick him again
2018-07-23 19:59
#18
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Brazil NIGORZ 
+1 although the only part I feel sorry for him for is trying to igl fer and cold at the same time when fer is stupidly aggressive and cold is probably the most passive player. I mean I was watching a couple days ago and it was last round a b hit for liquid and cold just waited a minute sat on a when his teammates had been fighting for ages and had saw the bomb. He only moved when they all died only to jump in ct and get awped lol
2018-07-23 20:05
how else is he supposed to get kills, exit frags lul
2018-07-23 20:15
#20
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Brazil NIGORZ 
I agree the only thing cold has ever impressed me with is his crosshair placement but I seem to be the only one
2018-07-23 20:16
no doubt Mr UKGOD his crosshair placement and positioning is insane
2018-07-23 20:22
#22
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Brazil NIGORZ 
will u be watching the matches soon?
2018-07-23 20:26
probably yes
2018-07-23 20:35
#41
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Spain Kyuuta 
Fallen is not ig rnl, Cold is.
2018-07-24 15:16
not anymore my friend, Mr Kyuuta
2018-07-24 15:43
#8
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China super_mario_64 
Such a nice thread man but indeed we gotta tell you that n0thing is retired already, yeah he played for loud but that only because he would have traveled to Brazil as ESL analyst, and plays in this open esea team just for streaming. Despite that great list.
2018-07-23 19:39
i thought as much
2018-07-23 21:18
#9
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Philippines zhixz 
nice thread Happy I agree 100000%
2018-07-23 19:43
#10
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United Kingdom how_much 
Good post as usual :)
2018-07-23 19:44
#11
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United Kingdom how_much 
Also like that you didn’t add GTR. He hasn’t reached his sell by date just yet
2018-07-23 19:45
#12
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Jeanzera 
Fer should retire to play pubg etc, he talked he doesn't like to play cs anymore.
2018-07-23 19:47
same with autimatic :(
2018-07-23 20:00
byali :C
2018-07-26 14:01
#14
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Russia timurt 
TAZ, NE0, Pasha, markeloff, blad3, waylander
2018-07-23 19:58
+1
2018-07-24 23:52
u forgot Happy
2018-07-23 20:01
haha -1 Mr Mohammad_Schopenhauer
2018-07-24 00:32
Ribery Kompany Vince Carter Nowitzki
2018-07-23 21:19
who now Mr fantastic_man?
2018-07-23 22:44
#71
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Hong Kong big_D_danny1 
wtf, i'm mavs fan. i like both vince and dirk
2018-07-25 11:22
GS or Rockets shuld pick up Vince just to have him bench and carry him to a ring before he retires.
2018-07-25 18:32
#105
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Malaysia Level1Cam 
Kompany is 32 he still can play but I agree with ribery
2018-07-26 14:19
stop shitpostinks retardoblyad
2018-07-24 09:36
not shitpost wtf Mr neverstopink_evermover)
2018-07-24 23:25
I do agree with the post actually. n0thing retired already, we saw him back from retirement and his performance was far better than mediocre. don't be jealous he carried them to the finals But you forgot to add: -happy (bad igl, bad player atm, ruined envyus, his years are gone) -taz (just old, he's bad even for tier 49 teams) -neo (same as taz) -fox (is he still playing?) -kNg (he fckd up his career with his tweets and his angry actions) -fnx (booze and questionable personality)
2018-07-24 09:42
+1111
2018-07-24 22:43
i think you forgot *cough* happy *cough* otherwise great list, but i think neo would have been a great addition :)
2018-07-24 09:50
i think i didnt :)
2018-07-24 14:11
I think that Fallen does not have to retire. All he needs is a good coach to help them and more time. I also think other players like GeT_RighT should retire over Fallen. I agree he has killed brazil scene though.
2018-07-24 09:50
indeed he has merked brazil scene
2018-07-24 11:45
happy should retrie btw -1 on ur post thats nothing trow
2018-07-24 14:16
no
2018-07-24 15:11
#43
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Netherlands kondye 
s1mple
2018-07-24 16:33
you are thinking s1mple should retire?
2018-07-24 17:47
This made me chuckle, then I thought about someone actually taking the time to write this essay and I laughed out loud. GJ dude
2018-07-24 16:55
glad you like Mr GruffPuppy5
2018-07-24 17:04
Where is skadoodle?
2018-07-24 17:56
hmm i thinking he has a little bit left but soon i am sure Mr OjSimpson_
2018-07-24 19:01
#53
mou | 
Ireland CaptainMou 
I actually thought you'd put Edward in here, good thing you didn't. Imo SIXER could be going to 3DMax
2018-07-25 00:00
Edward isnt even that bad, hes just not GOD, anyone who plays on the same team as s1mple looks bad
2018-07-25 00:18
#75
mou | 
Ireland CaptainMou 
I definitely agree on that, but sadly everytime he has a bad game, 50 threads come up where they want to kick him.
2018-07-25 11:35
+1
2018-07-25 11:55
#54
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I agree with all of your points besides FalleN and SIXER. PErsonally I think TaZ and NEO as they haven't had any success at all since EPICENTRE. Even before then, it was the Major playoffs and nothing else. fnatic and NiP struggled and still do, but unlike the Poles, they actually achieved results. Have a good day.
2018-07-25 00:03
thank for stopping by Mr Jonty you have really think SIXER can stay?
2018-07-25 08:41
i really enjoy this long texts
2018-07-25 00:07
glad to hear Mr redw0w, you will always be seeing more
2018-07-25 10:08
#57
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
HLTV should hire you
2018-07-25 00:25
#67
JW | 
United States VeryGodGuy 
+1
2018-07-25 09:01
thank Mr VeryGodGuy
2018-07-25 12:37
thank Mr feelsbadmane
2018-07-25 11:06
The old pasha streams were sooo nice, really miss them :-( I hope he will become a streamer after he gets kicked from VP
2018-07-25 00:34
sure he will Mr TrolloTheTroll
2018-07-25 13:22
Taz
2018-07-25 08:44
#61
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Poland misioneos 
Neo, gtr, forest
2018-07-25 08:45
-1 f0rest +1 gtr
2018-07-25 17:47
#117
jOELZ | 
Europe ihateit 
f0rest gonna play 10 more years without a drop below 1.0 rating
2018-08-05 09:21
+Neo +GeT_RiGhT +Happy +TaZ
2018-07-25 08:46
8/8, good b8, as always!
2018-07-25 08:47
thank friend :)
2018-07-25 14:01
#64
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
I 100% agree with you on FalleN. Although, he shouldn't retire, he should be kicked. Remember when used to dominate, in those times FalleN was a beast with the AWP and tactics. Now, a real challenge. Remember at least 3 times when mibr did like a super-smart prepared round OR FalleN's amazing clutch with the AWP after the Boston Major. FalleN and fer are the problems for mibr, imo.
2018-07-25 08:50
+1111
2018-07-25 14:51
#65
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Singapore derpydm 
What do you think about MSL? I personally think no but a lot of people on here and reddit think he should retire because he's inconsistent at fragging and also his style of IGLing is outdated to many.
2018-07-25 08:54
eh never really thought about him, MSL is kinda wildcard, sometimes hes good sometimes hes not
2018-07-25 15:33
I agree with all of them but not with FalleN. He needs to put some work on his own game but he was winning big tournaments only one year ago...
2018-07-25 08:57
nope he must go for the good of all players
2018-07-25 16:26
Who should replace him?
2018-07-25 16:40
anyone xd
2018-07-25 22:12
K
2018-07-25 22:32
Thanks for not mentioning NEO once in a post about retiring Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-07-25 11:20
NEO is cool :)
2018-07-25 17:35
#72
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Netherlands Deji 
I heavily agree Mr happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-07-25 11:23
thank Mr Deji :)
2018-07-25 23:52
markeloff is already retired if you didn't noticed
2018-07-25 11:25
#74
HaZR | 
Australia Xinaroth 
Genuinely good arguments I think, good read. I tend to agree with most, but as a young guy I think SIXER probably has the potential to pivot, and hopefully improve. Also Fallen I'm not too sure, I'd like to see him switch up his style, maybe on a different team before completely retiring. Otherwise, thanks for the post, really enjoyed. +10000
2018-07-25 11:27
SIXER is 27 thank Mr Xinaroth
2018-07-25 13:01
#79
HaZR | 
Australia Xinaroth 
Oh shit really? He looks so young, damn, never mind then that's way older than I thought lol
2018-07-25 13:06
#80
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Turkey tastemycobra 
happy
2018-07-25 13:09
no Mr tastemycobra
2018-07-26 13:53
Fox still dropping 40 bombs and he never had support of a good structured team good to see, BTW rpk 17 kills again cis tier 50 team in a bo3 should retire
2018-07-25 13:13
maybe RpK's time has come indeed
2018-07-26 14:17
No they just need motivation they can be good players
2018-07-26 14:24
xms Sixer All VP team without byali
2018-07-25 14:23
byali PUBG GOAT Mr Pointer1337
2018-07-26 14:58
#86
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Sweden AlexJonesVEVO 
no gtr, no dosia bad read -8/8
2018-07-25 14:54
Would also say GTR, he should move to a coaching/talent pushing position. He achieved everything. I like his approach because he's very emotional with every play/game. He's pretty attached to this, but tbh NIP will fail again at the Major and after that they are going to be disbanded (atleast GTR). He should really consider a clean "retirement" from his own after the Major, before the Team gets disbanded. br
2018-07-25 15:02
#93
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
I am kinda suprised that nobody mentioned gob b since he is starting to get old maybe there is bit of life on him but he could switch to coaching
2018-07-25 18:25
Could be because he just went 2nd at esl cologne and had a monster performance. Chrisj would be a good candidate for coaching though
2018-07-25 18:53
LOL @ Sixer. Surprised no FNS or JDM spam in the comments.
2018-07-25 18:29
eh they can get stuff done in the right team i think
2018-07-26 11:58
Taz, neo, GTR. I just really hopes gabriel will never ever be as good as he was. Hes a terrible human being, just as you mentioned, only cares about himself.
2018-07-26 14:02
indeed he is most evil
2018-07-26 15:49
#108
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Andorra hltv_citizen 
and then spat on by the Brazilian fans like they did to Space Soldiers. #lul&trul where is GeT_ReTiReD? #nolulsonotrul
2018-07-26 15:05
GTR would be here if they didnt qualify for major
2018-07-26 17:12
#111
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Turkey b0wsette 
Nice thread, my dud. I think Have a lovely day, MisterVerySexyGuy.
2018-07-26 17:40
thank Mr MisterVerySexyGuy :)
2018-07-26 18:48
#113
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Brazil cadik 
>PLAYERS WHO SHOULD RETIRE >Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev tweeted this +1 S1MPLE SHOULD RETIRE I ARE AGREE
2018-07-26 18:50
Add pasha and NEO
2018-08-01 10:39
agree with everything except fallen
2018-08-05 09:31
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