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IGL/Legends Neglected.
United Arab Emirates VASU 
Just saw a post about the worst players on each roster and one peanut brain mentions the name of the following : Zeus Karrigan TaZ NEO Nitr0 MSL Xizt Hiko They are In-game leaders who are fucking compromising their own gameplay for a team. They are the ones who sit with a coach and device a new strat. I get it they are old and there are other players who are way over them. But these players paved a way for strats, anti-eco strategies and aggressive plays to overwhelm opponents. The only thing these fuckwits see is the K/D & ADR now. They are legends playing this game and one of the most decorated players we have. SOSAT blyat to the peeps who start crying about S1mple here. PS : Link to the original post, hltv.org/forums/threads/1846924/worst-pl..
2018-08-10 06:54
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United States Mikeyyyy 
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2018-08-10 06:55
x)
2018-08-10 06:56
Also, please feel free to rebuttle your acquisitions. I am open to all criticism
2018-08-10 06:56
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
>Hiko >IGL nt UAE
2018-08-10 06:57
Lol if I have to say something to you sir, it was this team which rediscovered your miracle boy S1mple, the man of the hour that time, was Hiko. nt boss xD
2018-08-10 06:59
nt it was blad3
2018-08-10 07:00
In NA nt dick xD
2018-08-10 07:02
Hiko ain't from CIS. Just refreshing your knowledge.
2018-08-10 07:03
He means that blad3 discovered s1mple not hiko becuase s1mple played in flipsid3 before liquid. I kind of agree with him blad3 was better igl than hiko.
2018-08-10 07:11
I get you and this pleb. But I used the word "REDISCOVERED". He was hella unhappy at F3, check one of the VoD's if you wanna where he stopped paying attention to Blad3's calls and started cussing Markeloff. It was an inferno map I believe.
2018-08-10 07:18
I get your point hiko rediscovered s1mple. But blad3 played big part in developing s1mple atleast more than hiko. Hiko did a great job aswell but for me atleast it will always be blad3 more than hiko.
2018-08-10 08:21
This is how a rebuttal should be +1 papito
2018-08-10 08:25
Thanks! Have a good day.
2018-08-10 08:51
not having one. my work life sucks. :(
2018-08-10 09:16
Part of life bro You'll get used to it
2018-08-10 09:49
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Hungary TiboRr 
Nt it was Hiko
2018-08-10 09:34
It wasn't hiko ofc lul
2018-08-10 10:13
It does say IGLs/Legendseaning both if I'm not mistaken
2018-08-10 08:32
Yea. You're a legend.
2018-08-10 08:39
Why thank you <3
2018-08-11 21:00
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United States Degree|CSGO 
I brought this up in his thread how important these players are it at the same time I think he was talking stats not roles
2018-08-10 07:06
Exactly, this was what I was trying to infer from this post. But what these people see is trying to bait each and other. Ty for the support Mr. Degree. At least you think through an analysts' mind.
2018-08-10 07:08
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Brazil LukeCS 
On the same post he mentions that its based on individual skill lol Cry is free ma friend
2018-08-10 07:09
+1 need tears to wipe floor xD
2018-08-10 07:26
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Ukraine One1ove 
True. A lot of users think that AIM is the most importent in this game. But in real teams without great IGL don't have TOP future.
2018-08-10 08:41
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Croatia Luka2510 
Just newfags..
2018-08-10 09:01
OMEGALUL
2018-08-10 09:02
#53
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Moldova HLTV_Moldova 
Signed up 2018-01-18
2018-08-10 10:30
igl or not neo IS the worst player in vp by far...he is bad igl and just HORRIBLE player individually
2018-08-10 08:49
haha. I partly agree, he should retire. People have figured out his plays and his eyes have dried out. Nevertheless, he is the G.O.A.T
2018-08-10 08:54
goat in 1.6...but no way that he is goat in cs overall bcs of his pretty poor performance in csgo
2018-08-10 08:55
In the past 18 months. Again, their lucky sputters in tournaments have come thru due to his brain into the game. Moreover I feel that the new meta does not have a wiggle room for traditional Counter-Strike. More like the analysis of some people ( Just confirming that I am not targetting you papito).
2018-08-10 08:58
"In the past 18 months" no, he never was outstanding in csgo. literally NEVER "their lucky sputters in tournaments have come thru due to his brain into the game. WTF? no, its mainly SNAX and pasha and his insane 1-2 years who are the main reason behind like all their achievments. calls of neo were pretty simple lol. it was based mainly on individual performance. neo is nowhere near even top30 in csgo overall = he isnt GOAT of cs at all nomatter how insane he was in 1.6
2018-08-10 09:02
So I believe you are gonna stick to your point sir. I frankly but still partially agree with your opinion. But if I am not mistaken, Epicenter 2017 was the last tournament where Snax actually withdrew from IGl-ing if I am not mistaken. Altough we saw Snax hitting the numbers, his biggest slump was during the time when he started thinking that his calls were way more innovative than the legends themselves. Plus, tell me a time that Neo ever played for frags or for himself in the team he is, by sacrificing his own star status, he started paying attention to the main fundamentals of the game (which are strats, obivously) had provided at that time and that is probably the reason why players like Snax are recognized and have moved on ( THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD). To your claim of "calls of neo were pretty simple lol" that is what I mean by traditional Counter-Strike. Thanking you sir.
2018-08-10 09:11
"Plus, tell me a time that Neo ever played for frags or for himself in the team he is, by sacrificing his own star status" first of all he wasnt igl in csgo since beginning, it was kuben for first two years so neo was their "start player" back then and how exactly did his performance look like? 1.07 and 1.05...+ neo wasnt igl even whole time after that. they were switching that role like socks + neo has literally NO IMPACT AT ALL on how snax played. there was even an interview where they literally said that snax was already whole package when they picked him. neo has literally nothing to do with it and he(and whole team) should be lucky that snax joined them
2018-08-10 09:20
Again, agreed to a point where Snax was and is a whole package. But please read my post or to the thread and understand why and how these players have polarized the gameplay. Because you seem to just beat about one bush. No time for that Thanking you
2018-08-10 09:22
oh well you were the one who tried to excuse his rly horrible performance by role...and who claimed that he is the goat so i just replied you with facts
2018-08-10 09:23
I did rebuttal you with facts as well, but you seem to be prying about the fact that Snax is this, Snax is that? So what am I gonna do about it, get a room with you and discuss this?
2018-08-10 09:24
jesus christ how is snax even relevant? i only said that he was the main reason behind vps achievment and not neo and his "mastermind" calls. you were the one who was talking about him in a way that like he should be thankful to neo for what he accomplished which is just RIDICULOUS
2018-08-10 09:26
mastermind calls? Just have a look at Snax's POV's son, he made plays that were convinient to him, and they weren't masterful, they were surreal
2018-08-10 09:28
snax did those smoke pushes by himself ROFL. he was the one who had all freedom in the world in VP. why on earth do you rize neo for that? its like you would prize zeus for agro playstyle of s1mple or pronax for JW. honestly after this post i know that you are delusional AF so i rly have no reason at all to waste more my time here. dont even bother with reply bcs i will not read more your biased nonsenses anyway. bye
2018-08-10 09:30
Just say it, you hate Neo and you would kill him on the street for a Lira. Delusional AF, look who's talking OMEGALUL!
2018-08-10 09:32
Also, when did I say that Neo told him to do those pushes?! You're screwed in the head aren't ya? Go learn some English from PASHA LONDON SCHOOL
2018-08-10 09:34
and if you are gonna cry about the fact that neo has not done anything but shit, fine by me. Just have a look at FaZe v V.P at epicenter where he rekt rain with that sick planting situation. If that isn't experience, then let it be.
2018-08-10 09:27
"and if you are gonna cry about the fact that neo has not done anything but shit" cant you read? i was talking about his individual performance which is FACT "Just have a look at FaZe v V.P at epicenter where he rekt rain with that sick planting situation." so one tournament is your argument if we are talking about his performance through like 6 years:D? OMEGALUL
2018-08-10 09:28
If you say that 6 years a major and a legend status in the community is equivalent to a sack of potatoes, then please keep your facts and burn them, the country that I live in has enough petrol to make you burn a bit more.
2018-08-10 09:30
NEO is shit everyone knows that but VP always had amazing strats, I can't remember the event but they smashed FaZe 3-0 in some LAN finals a while back and their strats in that game were godlike, they literally made FaZe look like a clueless garbage pug team who have no answers to anything to bad that VP is long dead now.
2018-08-10 10:10
Agreed, made respect to Gla1ve!
2018-08-10 09:38
Why you so rude? I don't want to sosat
2018-08-10 09:46
someone got baited 😂😂😂😂
2018-08-10 09:58
HAHAHAAHAH
2018-08-10 10:13
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United States lockerboit 
Nitr0 literally is better than half his team and is a awper and a igl
2018-08-10 10:01
+1 SIRE
2018-08-10 10:13
An IGL position can't be the excuse for a very bad play. IGLs should play on the level, too, many of them really did or still do so. Players like 'Zeus', 'karrigan', 'MSL' really deserve this flow of hate towards them, they should get off of PC to coach if they can't play decently.
2018-08-10 10:26
+1 accepted and agreed. Thanks for notably understanding the pleas of this thread
2018-08-10 10:52
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African Union wtbx 
karrigan is the reason why faze will never be no1
2018-08-10 10:55
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Russia deadforest 
When the fuck Hiko became an in-game leader? Rickeh is an in-game leader, you stupid fuck.
2018-08-11 21:02
Neo, Taz.
2018-08-11 21:05
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Netherlands Jonasio 
You forgot ChrisJ
2018-08-11 21:10
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