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Is JW top 10 all time?
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United States skadaddy_1_major_s1mple_0 
Hello, and today I will be talking about a topic that I want to touch up on. JW, and his status as a player currently. He is seen as a great player by most and is considered very well as a player who deserved the 3 major titles. He was a great player 2014-2015 Fnatic but was outshined by Olof for the most part. Fast forward to present day, and he is still seen as a great player overall, even for one who has been an awper for most of their career, and had a sudden switch to a more rifling position. But the real question is, is he top 10 of all time material? Now there are many players that people would consider to be miles better than him, for example: Olof, gtr, fallen, dev1ce, f0rest, etc. I could go on but these are just from the top of my head. And I do see that people over look him, when they’re making a top list. He also still is young, so he could continue his career for years to come. On the other hand... I see that his stats are underwhelming, and he doesn’t have that great of an overall rating, even in 2015 when Fnatic was in their prime. So that made me think about this whole topic and if the points I made are still valid. In my opinion, he is a great player but falls shy of being worthy of a top 10 player of all time. What are your guys’ thoughts? And thanks for reading.
2018-08-15 00:59
yes
2018-08-15 01:00
#3
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Europe vasseldomau 
- 38
2018-08-15 01:02
yes
2018-08-15 01:22
Yes, I`m.
2018-08-16 11:24
#164
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Denmark leoNjf 
yes
2018-08-17 02:05
#206
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Germany FuckMIBR 
he is top5 atleast
2018-08-18 11:54
#7
JW | 
Sweden JW_top1 
+1
2018-08-15 01:15
I finished the analysis for this post today, took a couple days, puts JW at #9 hltv.org/forums/threads/1850157/new-true..
2018-08-16 07:07
-1 others are good but not best (JW best)
2018-08-18 11:15
Yes, no doubt.
2018-08-15 01:02
He is a very versatile player as well, and id love to see him continue his career as a player
2018-08-15 01:14
#10
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United Kingdom tthrowing 
Good times when we all hated him because his team was destroying everyone.
2018-08-15 01:33
Sodium, atomic number 11, was first isolated by Humphry Davy in 1807. A chemical component of salt, he named it Na in honor of the saltiest region on earth, North America.
2018-08-16 19:36
Is there any context to this
2018-08-16 22:29
No
2018-08-16 22:30
Ok nice, have a great day
2018-08-16 22:34
top 1 wonderpig
2018-08-15 01:05
#86
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Russia GramDEL 
+1
2018-08-15 10:11
#9
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Brazil xpn :) 
Not even close maybe top 30
2018-08-15 01:30
omegalul
2018-08-18 11:42
I'm not even sure he's top10 awper 🤔
2018-08-15 01:34
+1000
2018-08-17 02:04
#12
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Czech Republic popoa 
TOP 15
2018-08-15 01:38
#13
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United States LyNcHiE 
no ? NOT IN ANY ORDER 1. shox 2. coldzera 3. olof 4. Get_Right 5. f0rrest 6. kennyS 7. device 8. S1mple 9. GuardiaN 10. KRiMZ Just a few names who are far better then he is (also confessed to cheating to pasha but that is still debated till this day)
2018-08-15 01:48
#16
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
fucking shox lmao
2018-08-15 02:02
He definitely belongs in the top 10 The 10th spot is arguable krimz/snax/fallen/maybe even dupreeh in a bit Edit fuck just realized flusha wasnt in that list wtf
2018-08-15 04:29
#84
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
hltv.org/stats/players?matchType=BigEven.. statistically speaking shox is below so many other players if you combined that with all the MVPs and stats i still think that shox would be outside the top 10 maybeo should try and find out
2018-08-15 10:02
why is tw1st so high up in the ratings?
2018-08-17 01:11
#170
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
hltv.org/stats/players?matchType=BigEven.. is better but obvs it isnt accurate because it doesnt count mvps and shit like that but shox is pretty overrated, yeah he was good but not top 5 good like #166 says
2018-08-17 02:28
Idiotic. He has one of the highest peaks of all time. Watch a best of Shox or the SuperstituM videos. The man is absolutely top 5 in all CS games.
2018-08-17 02:15
#169
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
SuperstituM videos. \ HAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA also implying fragmovies mean anything
2018-08-17 02:26
uk brain, he is also a clutch god and has mastered all the weapons
2018-08-17 02:29
#172
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
his peak is shit af btw, his peak performance is 1.43 and so many players >> not even top 5 in clutches of all time, not top 5 in clutches back in '16 where he hit his peak and even when he was no.3 in 2013 he wasnt there either : hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?startDate=20.. mastered all weapons my ass, he was good pistol player and good fragger, thats all but 0/8 imagine thinking a highlight reel of frags means anything, i can make skadoodle, dennis, any average player look good in a fragmovie.
2018-08-17 02:34
Must be a newfag tbh, shox was a god. Watch the ESL Pro League Finals against LG or ECS Season One, he was a freaking god.
2018-08-17 17:00
#189
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
i watched all 5 maps rofl you’re just delusional fan
2018-08-17 18:20
then you honestly don't understand how good he is
2018-08-18 02:40
In terms of CS and throughout its entire existance GeT_RiGhT or kennyS would be on the top 1 spot. Not just saying this as a fanboy I'm saying this in terms of their form, impact on the game, and achievments within their time. Shox is definitley up there within the top 10, but you are missing on players like flusha for someone like S1mple who hasn't been achieving much for long yet. 1. GeT_RiGhT 2. kennyS 3. olofmeister 4. f0rest 5. coldzera/shox That would be my list though the top 3 could be easily swapped inbetween eachother and the others are all extremelly arguable.
2018-08-15 04:40
Nah, KennyS can't be top1. I don't think a player who was never on top1 can be considered an all time top 1 (unless, of course, if he got like 2nd place 4 years in a row, which is not the case)
2018-08-15 05:52
#41
sakula | 
Other kaiske 
kennys was the best for a bit before there was player rankings
2018-08-15 06:03
#43
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
What? Player rankings have been going on longer than CS:GO has existed
2018-08-15 06:09
#44
sakula | 
Other kaiske 
I mean at not the year
2018-08-15 06:10
#45
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
Can you rephrase that? I dont understand
2018-08-15 06:13
#46
sakula | 
Other kaiske 
As in, before the player ranking he was the best some time, but not the whole year
2018-08-15 06:15
#47
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
Ok I get what you mean now. Sure he has definitely been best for short periods of time but he has never been consistent enough to be best over the whole year (which is what they look at) so as the original guy was arguing he's never truly been top 1. You wouldn't call Na'Vi the best team in the world even though they won cologne, consistency is what matters for #1 spot.
2018-08-15 06:20
#50
sakula | 
Other kaiske 
Yes, I think so but I want to mention he did at some points
2018-08-15 06:21
#53
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
Fair enough and you're definitely right
2018-08-15 06:23
Player ranking shows who was the best through the whole year, not who is the best at the time of release of the ranking
2018-08-16 11:25
That is really what happens. If it was whole year, NiKo would have been top1 that year.
2018-08-17 02:16
Niko only started putting up huge performsnces in 2017 after he joined faze in the middle of the year, and he didnt win tournaments. Coldzera and SK won lots of tournaments consistently from tge start of 2017 to late 2017 when faze finally took over as the best team.
2018-08-17 10:35
#77
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United Kingdom TypicalBrit 
1.gtr 2.olof 3.cold 4.kennys 5.f0rest 6.guardian 7.flusha 8.shox 9.jw 10.krimz.
2018-08-15 09:43
#85
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Germany thebestchen 
JW > Krimz All time imo shox no top 10 alltime... he has 1 1/2 good years not more less mvp less titels
2018-08-15 10:07
he was god in 2013 he was god in 2014 - won a major he was god in 2016 - won ecs and should have won epl
2018-08-17 02:17
>all time >s1mple no
2018-08-15 17:17
#126
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Dude, Flusha and JW must be in consideration, actually Flusha must be on the list and JW in consideration. Flusha may go down as the greatest CS:GO player of all time and he has never been the best player for Fnatic.
2018-08-16 17:59
lol'd at "greatest csgo player of all time" xDDDDDDDDD
2018-08-17 07:31
#182
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
It's arguable. Between him gtr and olof atm.
2018-08-17 17:41
flusha has been in the top 4 on HLTV's yearly list literally 1 time out of 5. Nobody except for you thinks hes anywhere near #1. Not arguable at all lol
2018-08-18 10:53
flusha isnt #1 for sure but hes def in top 5 of csgo players
2018-08-18 12:21
#214
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Arguably n1 of all time.
2018-08-18 20:28
Rofl
2018-08-18 12:18
JW is Top 0 I would say
2018-08-15 01:57
mr happy be proud!!!!
2018-08-15 01:57
lol all these noobs going to delete their accounts when valve lets vacAI review past events and JW gets banned/fined
2018-08-15 02:06
So a player who has been in the scene for 6 years, and has won 3 majors will get banned?? Dont you think Valve would have looked into it allready then? If he had cheats then he would get VACation long before you even heard of cs
2018-08-15 09:46
ahahah such noobs these days!!
2018-08-15 13:50
yeah like you smh
2018-08-15 17:42
This is what you link?? This doesnt even look suspicious lol. In the beginning it says its locking on to a player, but it doesnt even lock on, his crosshair is just aiming in his general direction while he is checking boiler (if you even know callouts tho, i doubt it). Dumb ass silvers believe every thing dan m says because they cant grasp real skill or just normal behaviour in game smh lol
2018-08-16 11:21
so when jw is banned you have to delete all your accounts please?
2018-08-17 03:05
Sure
2018-08-17 10:31
There's a chance JW is actually a cheater, but this is the worst proof I've ever seen given for someone being a cheater. Whoever made this video/Whoever believes that this looks like cheats hasn't been playing the game for more than a month
2018-08-17 07:34
that will never happen though. would be a pr nightmare for valve, think for one second
2018-08-16 18:48
Tldr pls
2018-08-15 03:09
JW has been overlooked by krimz and Olof and deserves recognition. Maybe even top 10 all time.
2018-08-15 04:10
Who?
2018-08-15 03:10
Jesper “JW” Wecksell Rifler for Fnatic
2018-08-15 04:09
#75
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New Zealand Eauor 
Former AWPer
2018-08-15 09:39
#22
Faith | 
Argentina Apinaaw 
not even in the top 10 of sweden
2018-08-15 04:15
#49
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
Name 10 better swedish players bro
2018-08-15 06:21
What LOL!
2018-08-15 04:16
#25
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Sweden plikz 
man when JW was at his prime time he was probably the most fun pro player to watch ever
2018-08-15 04:35
He is safely within the top 20, but while he was certainly good he was outclassed by his teammates only 2-3 of whom are within the top 10 ever for most people. Again, great player but not a star who really made it into that list. It is like telling me autimatic was the star player of C9 at the last major, he is sure as hell good but his teammates just pulled off greater things even if he was more consistent.
2018-08-15 04:43
top 20 maybe
2018-08-15 04:50
1. Get right 2. Cold 3. Flusha 4. Olof 5. Device 6. Kennys 7. Guardian 8. Shox 9. Forest 10. Snax
2018-08-15 04:54
#57
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Sweden D1SCO8 
Atleast you have Flusha in it, i have seen people in this thread that havent even Flusha in the top 10 to me its pretty obv that the best players of all time in CSGO are the players that MEANT the most for the team when they won a major.. The only thing that i can say though is that if they only did the major well and not much after that then ofc they arent deserving enough to be on that list.. So my top 10 is this. obv no list is perfect, but to me the top 5 on this list are rightfully top 5, and top 3 are in exact right order.. 1. Flusha mvp 2015 cologne, and without a doubt Fnatics best player throug all time 2. Coldzera 2 mvp , and without a doubt the best player in SK/LG Csgo history 3. Krimz - Should have gotten mvp for Cologne 2015 instead of Olof.. 4. Happy - The best Envy/LDLC player of all time, and mvp winner on major. 5. Get_right- Major winner, and prob the biggest reason that they went to so many finals 6. JW- Most impactful player in Fnatic, and together with Flusha more or less the only reason that Fnatic won the first major where he got his MVP.. 7. Friberg - More or less the only reason that NIP won their only major, mvp 8. Olofmeister 1 mvp, and just such a nice fragger, stable and amazing through 2014-2015 9. Kennys- The best awper through all time and 1 mvp, however, not impactful enough to be higher up 10. Fallen - second best IGL after pronax and JW, the most impactful player on a team. S1mple will btw be on this list in the future... And Coldzera are btw SO close to be number 1.. Both Kjaerbye, Tarik, Pasha, Snax are all players that has Great pot to be on this list too. But they just havent WON enough to be up here. I also wanna add that Pronax should prob, be on this list aswell becasue he his to me the best IGL of all time... Gobb has actually pot to be number 1, but damn he just dont have good enough players to show what he can do.. IF he had Faze players, or Fnactic when they were in their prime he would have absolutly done the same as Pronax and Fallen....
2018-08-15 06:52
Come on at least try with your baits That is such a bad list
2018-08-15 08:23
#93
flusha | 
Sweden D1SCO8 
Its the best list, and most correct list.. Sweden have... 15 medals in majors.. France have 6 medals Brasile 5 medals.. Sweden have 4 major wins, 6 silvers, 5 bronze.. Thats why they have 6 players on that list..
2018-08-15 17:53
not even top 10 awper
2018-08-15 04:59
That’s because he isn’t an awper
2018-08-15 05:15
nt, go back to reddit.
2018-08-15 05:30
I don’t have Reddit. And I know he was an awper I’m messing with you.
2018-08-15 06:43
#31
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Brazil cadik 
yes all time he is besterer than s1mple jw 3 year domination s1mple no domination at all
2018-08-15 05:05
more like 3 months domination
2018-08-15 05:40
Not in particular order: -GTR -coldzera -forest -neo -forest -guardian -fallen -kennys -shox -olofmeister
2018-08-15 05:32
#54
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Chile StfanoLELE 
Neo over jw and flusha in the history of csgo??! U can't be talking for real
2018-08-15 06:40
i think he's talking overall, cs 1.6+go
2018-08-15 17:16
#35
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Turkey GuardOfGondor 
>top10 >jw
2018-08-15 05:36
#37
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
Ye he is, he's just an insane player doing nutty shit all the time and everyone has slumps but his peaks are so high it doesn't really matter. Watch this guy play, he does the most retarded shit you'll see any pro doing and it just works, he's random, he's good with lots of different weapons, he gets a ton of knife kills in pro matches, his movement is insane, he's not predictable, makes space for his team mates, and will go down as a legend in CS Go with his resume. I think if you had a top 10 all time of CS Go for sure many swedes in the list f0rest, GTR (top 2, top 1 twice, top 20 7 years in a row at his prime) Flusha, Olof, JW are all on that list for sure with Guardian, kennyS, Shox, Coldzera and Device. My list would be (no particular order) GTR f0rest JW Flusha Olof Guardian kennyS Shox Coldzera Device
2018-08-15 05:44
he's not top10 in anything awp/rifle etc
2018-08-15 05:53
Yeah, he is number two in my list.
2018-08-15 06:01
#42
sakula | 
Other kaiske 
jw good but not best
2018-08-15 06:05
Absolutely no doubt!
2018-08-15 06:22
#52
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Norway m0sifer 
arguably as number 10. but not top 5
2018-08-15 06:22
#56
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Germany zeolikk 
Yes /closed
2018-08-15 06:48
Absolutely.
2018-08-15 06:56
id put JW in top 5 imo in terms of achievements. He and others will be phased out in a few years due to them not achieving anything and other players rising up and matching their peak forms
2018-08-15 07:03
I personally do not think he is on the list to be fair. Ppl who must be certainly on the list: Get_RiGht, Olofmeister, coldzera, dev1ce, KennyS, GuardiaN Players who are just below them: flusha, shox, niko, s1mple
2018-08-15 07:04
#62
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United States Gyr0 
1. Tarik 2. Stewie2k 3. Autimatic 3. Skadoodle 5. Rush 6. Nitro 7. Elige 8. Hiko 9. JDM 10. S1mple
2018-08-15 08:27
#63
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Brazil cadik 
-s1mpel +TACO
2018-08-15 09:21
#68
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United Kingdom h4mm 
NA Brain has a delay
2018-08-15 09:32
jw goat
2018-08-15 09:27
#66
JJ | 
Nepal Besto 
Sure.
2018-08-15 09:29
#67
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United Kingdom h4mm 
JW is in top 100
2018-08-15 09:31
#69
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Finland Ogbacon 
Allu GOAT
2018-08-15 09:33
#71
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Finland Lehtori 
Hello lady and gentle of hltv. I'm think of jw not top 10 - Lehtori
2018-08-15 09:34
#72
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Definitely not top 10. Maybe squeezes into top 20 on account of his achievements and his past years of good AWPing.
2018-08-15 09:37
JW is the OG of CS:GO. He is one of 3 players who have 3 major wins under their belts. He is so sexy, he is able to steal any person's girlfriend. You peek mid for 0,0001 of second? Get quickscoped by Wonderchild! He comes when you don't expect him, jumps around a corner and knives you. You call him pig?! But he butchered you like one!
2018-08-15 09:38
#83
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India Hrishimeister 
+1 nice
2018-08-15 09:59
JW always top 10
2018-08-15 09:40
He is my #16 I think.
2018-08-15 09:46
#82
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Sweden ThorinEk 
He is top 10 but not top 5 i think
2018-08-15 09:52
olofmeister good, but not best, JW bestest LUL
2018-08-15 10:13
#95
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United Kingdom dcrawford101 
yes annd he cute like a cauliflour
2018-08-15 17:54
#101
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Panama FaZeKQLY 
s1mple coldzera niko kennys shox olofmister device snax Guardian rain
2018-08-16 07:08
#116
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
hahahahahahahahahahahaha no gtr, flusha, KRIMZ and f0rest in a top10 list. stop baiting please you are bad at it.
2018-08-16 17:21
#110
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Czech Republic LastOneCS 
Top 20 I think
2018-08-16 16:20
#114
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North America snaxxieJESUS 
Top 15 but not top 10. 10 better players all time in no particular order: -cold Obv -gtr Obv -olof Obv -snax Top 5 player in the world for over 3 years. -shox Arguably the highest skill peak anyone has ever hit in csgo. Consistent top player for many years. -kennyS Consistently a top awper throughout pretty much the entire history of csgo. -GuardiaN Consistently a top awper throughout the entire history of csgo. -Simple One of the best players in the world for 3 years, currently at a level arguably never seen before in csgo. -flusha Overlooked because of cheating allegations, but was one of the world's best players for over 2 years and a top player for many more. Also worth noting that there was never really a year where jw was better than flusha during their primes. -device Top 5 player in the world for almost 4 years now. I'd also probably put forest, Niko(if not now then soon), and fallen ahead of JW. So top 15 but not top 10. I agree he is a very underappreciated player though.
2018-08-16 17:20
#115
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Norway rogueplayer 
jw good but not best(jw bestest)
2018-08-16 17:21
#117
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
1.GeT_RiGhT (GOAT of all time) 2.flusha 3.shox 4.olofmeister 5.kennyS 6.device 7.f0rest 8.GuardiaN 9.KRIMZ 10.JW
2018-08-16 17:23
olof and kennys > shox
2018-08-16 17:48
#120
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
what about no
2018-08-16 17:48
idk xD
2018-08-16 17:49
#122
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
xx0x0:D
2018-08-16 17:49
X0 TOUR LLIF3
2018-08-16 17:49
#124
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
i dont rly care if ull cryyyyy :D
2018-08-16 17:50
#129
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Greatest of all time of all time.
2018-08-16 18:00
#131
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
true isnt he ?
2018-08-16 18:06
#127
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Sweden Trkmag 
No he isn't, olof and flusha is tho. Maybe KRiMZ can compete for 10th
2018-08-16 17:59
#128
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I'd say very easily. He's one of only three players to have three CS:GO Major titles under his belt and is still one of the better players for fnatic today.
2018-08-16 18:00
#130
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Most likely, even tho at the very bottom if so. I would say he's a sure top 20 and maybe a 9th or 10th player if we consider longevity over great years, because even tho he has been a good player for the majority of his career he had some bad times (mostly 2017) and that's kinda fresh in everyone's memory atm so they'll rather rate the good year Fer had over the amazing career JW accomplished. And people seem to forget that JW was a god before the awp nerf, they just remember kennyS, the fact that JW continued to be an amazing player even after they destroyed his best weapon is incredible.
2018-08-16 18:04
jw top1
2018-08-16 18:48
no maybe top 25
2018-08-16 18:49
top 10 in players who will be remembered, no doubt. top 10 skill-wise, i don't think so.
2018-08-16 18:50
#139
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United States Degree|CSGO 
If he were to be in the all time top 10 he would only be in the bottom half and only by a small margin like 9/10th place
2018-08-16 18:53
#140
STYKO | 
Poland Skrra 
yes, in my opinion, he's in top 10 alongside: GTR forest olof flusha guardian kennys shox cold device
2018-08-16 18:56
Yes definitely. Olof, Flusha, Krimz and JW is on that list undoubtedly.
2018-08-16 19:31
#155
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Germany T1mb0 
i feel like JW is around 10th-11th best
2018-08-16 23:03
Yeah probably 10th spot.
2018-08-17 19:03
Imo he is edit: probably everyone from Fnatic is top 10 of all time except pronax and dennis
2018-08-16 19:33
hltv.org/forums/threads/1850400/top10-cs.. This post just got made today and will anwser your question
2018-08-16 19:38
Oh nice that’s nice thanks
2018-08-17 00:19
Yes, and he is one of the most fun players to watch.
2018-08-16 20:06
No obv Rain, shox, cold, fallen, guardian, s1mple, niko, olof, flusha, krimz, gtr, snax, device , dupreeh, kenny they are all better than jw
2018-08-16 22:42
rain ? dupreeh? niko? ahahhahaha
2018-08-16 22:47
Yea which one is worse than JW?
2018-08-16 22:59
They may be better than him as of right now but not all time. Well maybe Dupreeh or rain
2018-08-17 00:21
Niko will be top2 this year, he was top2 2017 and people were comprasing him with cold at 2016, he was so good but mouz was shit. Niko is not new player like ropz or rez. Jw has more majors, just this.
2018-08-17 18:45
Good point
2018-08-17 22:12
no , top 20 definitely , maybe top 15, but not top 10. although in terms of raw skill i think he is as deadly as niko
2018-08-16 22:48
probably
2018-08-17 01:06
#159
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United Kingdom dexz4 
In the whole history of CS, no. but in Global Offensive i give him 10th
2018-08-17 01:07
no one here putting the fact that he's only 23 into context, if hes not top 10 all time he will be
2018-08-17 01:13
True
2018-08-17 01:58
#165
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Poland r4deoN|olofm 
yes he is, he's a legend of the game now so yeah :D
2018-08-17 02:11
Top10 quality bacon sure
2018-08-17 06:49
maybe not top 10 but top 30 for sure.btw I love JW,the most handsome man in my heart XD.
2018-08-17 07:06
1. Olof 2. kennys 3. f0rest 4. gtr 5. cold 6. dev1ce 7. Seńor vac 8. NiKo 9. Shox 10. Guardian Gtr would be higher but his peak fell after 2015-16 and guys like olof, f0rest and kenny continued to be top tier players while now the only reason gtr is still on nip is his legacy
2018-08-17 07:13
+1
2018-08-17 17:45
-1
2018-08-17 17:51
Yes
2018-08-17 17:47
No, but his entertainment value is for sure top 10.
2018-08-17 17:50
#187
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United States Windy_C 
Off all time? Hell no lol.
2018-08-17 17:51
No.
2018-08-17 17:52
#194
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Denmark Xipingu 
Of all time? Hell to the fucking no. But of CS:GO? Yeah sure, but at the bottom end of the top 10.
2018-08-18 02:49
#195
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Germany lloyd6077 
never
2018-08-18 03:12
#198
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Switzerland zero_hoes 
its sad to see your lack of originality and the fact that you are trying to copy one of the most based users of this site and you are doing it so poorly
2018-08-18 11:26
#199
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Portugal CRMN1 
I do think so. JW would not be in the top 10 in terms of consistency or raw aim for sure, but the fact that he belongs to a group of only 3 other players who have 3 majors under their belts tells a lot. If you think about it that way, the top 10 would probably be, in no particular order: coldzera, flusha, GTR, olofmeister, Snax, dev1ce, JW, GuardiaN, kennyS, shox/falleN/KRiMZ/f0rest Not totally accurate but something like that.
2018-08-18 11:40
Even though I think snax is an insane player, I don't think he belongs in the top 10 since there's Always been a lack of achievement despite the potential - maybe he'll shine once again in mouz
2018-08-18 11:44
#203
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Portugal CRMN1 
The fact that he was top 5 for 3 straight years is such an insane achievement already. I get your point and I agree that VP held him back a little bit in that sense but you also gotta take into account that he also is a Major winner. I probably wouldn't include him in the list if it wasn't for that detail.
2018-08-18 11:50
Yeah I know but I mean winning a major doesn't automatically mean that you're on the top 10 of all time; with that logic Pronax would be top 3. I agree though that top 5 for 3 years is impressive. I honestly think pronax could've made the top 10 if he didn't ''semi-retire'' with his godsent venture
2018-08-18 11:52
#208
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Portugal CRMN1 
Of course it doesn't, I thought I made it pretty clear that the Major he won adds to what he has achieved individually... Nowhere did I say Majors are all that matters at all, but the combination of both earn him a spot in my top 10 at least. Don't know about the general opinion.
2018-08-18 12:08
in csgo of course he is incredibly versatile player, underrated
2018-08-18 11:45
#205
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Germany dzynK 
Yes
2018-08-18 11:52
BCKo
2018-08-18 12:00
#212
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Sri Lanka khorkalba 
He's top 10 in the list of overrated noobs boosted into the pro scene by the power of the AWP. Also in the top 10 list of players who exploited broken pistols the most.
2018-08-18 12:29
yes -closed-
2018-08-18 12:34
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