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Esports = betting
Norway krabbiered 
without betting there would be no esports we have today. Betting = viewers = sponsors = prizes = players And valve want to close esports betting sites what a dumbasses
2018-08-15 11:40
Greenland HLTV_LGBT 
-1 betting for retards who have no self control,
2018-08-15 11:42
2018-08-15 11:43
2018-08-15 12:47
how much my friend?
2018-08-15 13:24
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Trav1s 
look at my inventory.... 1,5k € i bought skins for 200€ max... all skins from betting.... and i sent a lot of skins to my friends too... am sad betting skins is shit novadays
2018-08-15 13:37
Lithuania KoksSkirtumas 
about 1% people in earth living from gambling, if u smart enough u can make money.
2018-08-15 13:55
betting from the USA is a pain in the behind anyways due to regulation, not very common
2018-08-15 21:26
+1 without bets csgo will die.
2018-08-15 11:43
Denmark Xipingu 
Valve wants to kill eSports, it seems. Closing sites is going to damage CS:GO, Dota 2, LoL... You fucking name it.
2018-08-15 11:44
Why would it hurt LoL? How do they close sites that work with LoL?
2018-08-15 14:33
Denmark Xipingu 
Because if they go as far as to, say, sue betting sites for something in the end, those might not survive. I know that some of the sites probably has a good enough bank behind them, but I can only imagine what will happen if they run amok with this idea of betting being cancerous. So initially it can only hurt CS:GO and Dota 2, but in the end some of the same sites are bound to work together with all eSports games too, so not them all, but it can definitely escalate.
2018-08-15 16:14
How would they sue them? For what?
2018-08-15 16:34
Denmark Xipingu 
I don't know right now, but Valve has so far shown to go to great lengths to destroy what was great, and it is America after all. PUBG's lawsuit against Fortnite didn't make much sense either.
2018-08-15 16:35
There is no law they are breaking, valve cannot make up new laws so they cannot sue them. And just because they take them to court does not mean they win. I do not remember valve destroying anything great.
2018-08-15 16:36
Denmark Xipingu 
I suppose. But I still see this having dire consequences for some teams in CS, and perhaps overall for the scene, at least. Oh, they have. Trading is cancerous now, and Valve’s cuts from using their market is getting bigger and bigger. That’s an example.
2018-08-15 20:49
Depends how you look at it, trading was terrible before and really shady. Valves message was really vague, and I do not believe they want rid of all betting. Established sports betting companies will probably still be able to sponsor teams etc, I think.
2018-08-15 21:25
Spain Carbonizante 
Actually betting gave csgo many viewers but volvo doesn't want others to make money of their game without volvo getting a part.
2018-08-15 11:46
Sounds of someone who came to esports only to bet.
2018-08-15 11:49
without betting esports would be on 2005 lvl and there would be not much players and orgs going to waste time in game for such a little pize pool
2018-08-15 11:51
Good riddance then if it all disappears. Esports isn't about earning money but competition.
2018-08-15 11:55
Finland AxaFin 
and nobody really watches sports for the sport itself but all the drama that goes on backstage. that's why people watch WWE
2018-08-15 12:29
Ok ok, take away all skill , all strategy, just make esports to be all about twitter and reddit.
2018-08-15 12:47
it's all about money, you can't compete without being fulltime player
2018-08-15 13:09
Yep, it's not like are semi pro players competing for no money at all. It's not like there were any tournaments before betting escalated. Forget about all that, esports doesn't exist, it's all about betting.
2018-08-15 13:12
Yes there were tournaments for $50k that has been never paid due to zero sponsorship, players had to focus on their real life jobs instead of paying full attention to cs Every single team in TOP50 is fulltime and many more of them are able to play for some additional dollars thanks to gambling websites Even I have lost money on betting websites, do I have to blame myself for being impatient and making stupid decisions, or is it someone elses fault?
2018-08-15 13:17
Worse competition->easier entry level. You watch tournaments with players beign closer to your skill level, making easier to aspire to get better at game. It's not entirely worse for scene to have less money. And to begin with that money isn't neccesarily there just thanks to betting.
2018-08-15 13:20
It isn't but it has become a huge factor in many investments from websites like hellcase or I have 2700 elo and imo you can't become pro anymore unless you are cheating or extremely talented and hard working The only statement that I agree with is that money brings cheaters and crooks, but I prefer to have more money in cs even from betting websites, helps our small scenes like Baltic or CZ/SK to get better
2018-08-15 13:29
Bet addict thread
2018-08-15 11:52
Slovakia Chaoooss 
Im not rly into betting but its fun to bet for ur favourite team small bet :D Then it hype me more :D
2018-08-15 13:26
yes a small loan of a million dollars
2018-08-15 13:45
Slovakia Chaoooss 
Lmao :D
2018-08-15 13:59
this is what a man who goes all in on gambit every time they play sounds like
2018-08-15 13:32
lol i never bet on gambots i lost 400$ against them in Krakow on Astralis and Immortals
2018-08-15 13:56
good old gambit from tier 1.5 to tier 4
2018-08-15 14:30
cs go only
2018-08-15 13:32
Every sport keeps on betting
2018-08-15 13:42
Germany lor3nz 
the pick em challange is also betting wtf valve?
2018-08-15 13:51
but u bet only stickers, not money
2018-08-15 13:57
Germany lor3nz 
yeah but you have to buy stickers
2018-08-15 13:57
its not that much 20$ only max and stickers its cosmetical in'game item which can't be sold for cash
2018-08-15 13:59
Belgium jorneiro 
Betting is gambling but not all gambling is betting
2018-08-15 14:02
and? without betting competitive csgo would be dead now prob
2018-08-15 14:08
Belgium jorneiro 
Yes i know i just meant that valve advised against gambling partnerships, they probably mean the scam casino websites instead of licensed betting websites.
2018-08-15 14:15
JJ | 
Nepal Besto 
What do you mean?
2018-08-15 14:18
better = retards
2018-08-15 14:31
Poland wiktorex 
football - betting
2018-08-15 16:36
valve dont want to close betting sites, (drakelounge, csgolounge, csesport). They just want to kill every site which main idea is cheating on gambling USING skins. AND trading sites BECAUSE they are earning money from trades. *but it is actually fair enough. Some sites like csgopolygon or csgoempire AT LEAST has sponsored some tournaments/teams. Anyway the most advanced site - drakelounge/drakemoon/drakewing didnt do nothing for csgo.
2018-08-15 20:58
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Poland Sug4RR 
2018-08-15 21:28
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