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We should ALL go vegan
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Watch the following documentaries: 1. What The Health 2. Earthlings 3. Forks Over Knives 4. Cowspiracy You can hate as much as you want, but at least do it after being informed.
2018-08-15 23:38
#1
jkaem | 
Lithuania GayPride 
Meat tastes good - end of the story
2018-08-15 23:38
#6
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Turkey Payynnkilla 
+1
2018-08-15 23:41
#46
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
-2 I win
2018-08-16 02:53
#47
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Germany PeKay 
+3 u Lose
2018-08-16 02:59
#51
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
But in the end Germany always loses
2018-08-16 03:05
But Portugal don’t like to participate
2018-08-16 07:08
They participated in ww1 i think
2018-08-16 20:06
Germany loses he says Nt budget spain
2018-08-20 19:01
#94
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Jeanzera 
+1
2018-08-16 04:50
#123
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Argentina W0LFy[RushB] 
+100
2018-08-16 20:04
+1
2018-08-17 08:20
#2
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
im vegan all the time except when i eat
2018-08-15 23:38
Me too bro! Gj
2018-08-16 04:17
#140
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Brazil brancowhite 
Me too bro! Gj
2018-08-16 20:41
#3
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United States PsychoLogical 
Vegans are scum.
2018-08-15 23:39
your dad dates Karrigan
2018-08-15 23:39
#14
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Brazil VeryMibrGuy 
nt karrigan
2018-08-16 00:05
#120
hardstyle | 
Turkey B^S 
lol wtf
2018-08-16 13:41
grass lives too so what can i eat if i dont want to hurt anything?
2018-08-15 23:40
hurt yourself, bcuz ur nothing!
2018-08-15 23:42
it will hurt i cant
2018-08-15 23:52
#18
eLUSIVE | 
United States mook_ 
xd
2018-08-16 02:23
200 IQ don't eat the animals eat their food and let them starve. Vegans are so cruel smh
2018-08-15 23:42
#10
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
not even a good bait
2018-08-15 23:47
What is the purpose of a species? To survive and to continue their bloodline Why do cows and pigs still exist despite not being able to hunt or run fast or have absolutely anything special that helps their survival rates against predators? Because we use them for food So if you stop using pigs and cows for food they will go extinct
2018-08-15 23:50
#15
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
In India they don't eat cows and still cows are abundant there. Just like other herbivore species, cows can live in the wild; they live in herds (like buffalos, for example) and fertilize the fields with their manure and serve as food for some predators as well. The only reason you think cows can't run is probably because the only ones you have seen are all in captivity and they never needed to do so in their lives. Also, even if they would go extinct (which they would not), I'd prefer that a million times to what they go through every day just to give your mouth 10 minutes of pleasure to compensate for your otherwise miserable life. You should watch "Earthlings" to see the conditions in which these animals live, the way they are treated and how they're killed, maybe you will stop saying garbish. Ignorance is human's biggest enemy, don't close your eyes just because you don't wanna know the truth.
2018-08-16 02:19
#33
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United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
Meat is so delicious. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
2018-08-16 02:39
#106
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World word_exe 
I didn't read past cows being abundant in India. First, they still consume dairy so cows have a purpose. Also, cows aren't just not eaten, they're revered. Really really bad example tbh.
2018-08-16 07:05
+1 veganism is genocide
2018-08-16 08:48
that's why they survived millions of years before humans xd
2018-08-16 20:35
+1
2018-08-15 23:42
#22
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Obrigado irmão
2018-08-16 02:27
This guy isn't br. Ontopic I'm not vegan or vegetarian but I want to become btw- same reasons as yours.
2018-08-16 02:41
#44
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
I support you! It's not hard, there are many delicious vegetarian/vegan foods and recipes, and you will feel way better both physical and mentally
2018-08-16 02:51
I need to start cooking for myself. I can easily become vegetarian the moment I learn to make the dishes using chickpeas I want to learn. They are delicious and very nutritive
2018-08-16 03:13
#58
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
True! Another thing that can help make your transition a lot easier is buying a cookbook, like "Frugal Vegan: Affordable, Easy & Delicious Vegan Cooking", "Peace and Parsnips" or "Vegan for Everybody: Foolproof Plant-Based Recipes for Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, and In-Between"
2018-08-16 03:19
Sounds nice and I appreciate it. I just wouldn't ever stop eating eggs. That's too much for me Ty
2018-08-16 04:08
#12
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Spain 7VultuR 
I had a vegan friend, after half a year eating vegan food, he was very weak. I started to put meat in his food and he recovered. Then he found out and we stopped being friends. So he kept being vegan. Lately he got worse, started to eat meat again and apologised to me.
2018-08-15 23:52
#20
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
That's just because he couldn't keep a balanced, diversified diet. Some vegetarians/vegans are too lazy and end up eating a lot of vegan fast food, either because they don't like to cook or simply because they are not well informed about the nutrients we need. I've been vegan for almost a year now and I feel better than I was before, really. Having a plant-based diet is the best thing you can do to your body, it helps you stay fit, stronger and have more energy overall.
2018-08-16 02:25
No, you will need supplements. No doctor wil recommend you a vegan diet without supplements.
2018-08-16 04:21
#83
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Well, then you should do a research for yourself, or watch "What The Health". The only supplement you MIGHT need is B12, and even that you can get from a vegan diet.
2018-08-16 04:29
Ok, im done is worthless, i trust more my sources than yours. Its ok tho, but as a person who suffered crohn's disease, ive been to a lot of dietist and doctors and what you are saying is just wrong. But you be you.
2018-08-16 04:32
#90
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Well, just last century smoking tobacco was also thought to do no harm... by doctors. So yeah believe in your sources
2018-08-16 04:41
You said that you used science a lot, but still you dont understand that sciencie cant prove anything 100%, sciencie can only disprove. Btw who was that found out tobbaco was harmful? Some guys doing documentaries? Oh yeah ofc
2018-08-16 05:04
#100
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
These documentaries include doctors and scientists to support them, many of them have dedicated their whole lives to these studies, and maybe you should watch them before talking shit
2018-08-16 05:13
#102
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
You’re still in the denial phase, I understand.
2018-08-16 05:14
I repeat science cant prove it, can only disprove it, how is that every doctor is not agreeing then? Can u explain it? They dont have a 100% right reponse, but you do. Congrats you are officialy a cunt.
2018-08-16 20:02
#125
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Wow you're really dumb. In science you never get 100% favorable responses for a theory, except for gravity. It's hard to win an argument against an intelligent person, but it is impossible to do so against a stupid one. There's no point in wasting more of my time with you. Goodbye
2018-08-16 20:06
You are repeating the same thing as i said.( Really smart) "It's hard to win an argument against an intelligent person, but it is impossible to do so against a stupid one. There's no point in wasting more of my time with you" Irony hits hard sometimes.
2018-08-17 08:20
#148
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Spain 7VultuR 
Es portugués que te esperas..
2018-08-20 19:00
#108
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World word_exe 
+1 I have Crohn's disease and need meat. There are no vegan foods as nutrient dense as meat. Plenty of vegan people have to go back to eating meat after a Crohn's or UC diagnosis too btw
2018-08-16 07:09
#118
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Compare the nutrients existent in 100g of meat with the nutrients existent in 100g of beans then
2018-08-16 13:37
Thats not how it works, you dummie if you eat 100g of pure protein your body will not process every g of protein.
2018-08-16 20:03
#138
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World word_exe 
You literally have no idea what you're talking about hey.
2018-08-16 20:37
The meat has much more nutrients and more available to absorb
2018-08-17 08:20
Not true sometimes depends on blood type and shit and some ppl need meat also we evolved coz of it so stop forsing your bulshit view on others. Ooo look at me I watched few documentaries and now im the doctor...
2018-08-16 07:26
#16
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
We should eat vegans
2018-08-16 02:20
#19
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Liechtenstein fuyu 
Not much to eat. With such weak muscle development and an empty cranium.
2018-08-16 02:24
#21
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
The ignorance is strong in this one. Try to inform yourself and don't fall for myths
2018-08-16 02:26
#23
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Liechtenstein fuyu 
Honest question. If you and your wife were vegan and you have kids, would you let your wife breast-feed them? Please enlighten me on your protocol in that case.
2018-08-16 02:30
#28
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
To think that breast milk is not vegan is so ignorant that I'm not even gonna answer to that b8
2018-08-16 02:34
#30
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Liechtenstein fuyu 
How so? Humans are animals after all. Or have Vegans ascended to godlike beings, considering all that cult-like talk? The soy is leaking, Mr. physt.
2018-08-16 02:37
#43
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
"Like all mammals, a human mother produces milk for the sole purpose of nourishing her baby. So for vegan moms and their babies, there’s no moral contradiction in breastfeeding."
2018-08-16 02:47
#48
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Liechtenstein fuyu 
So no more Almond, Coconut or Soy milk for the children? Nice. Gotta start selling that kosher, vegan-approved, pasteurized, 90% water per volume breast milk for just the right price. This post was sponsored by Soylent.
2018-08-16 03:00
O O F
2018-08-16 03:24
Vegan women can't even get impregnated ,I'm not even joking
2018-08-16 02:38
#26
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
+1
2018-08-16 02:32
+1
2018-08-16 12:24
#17
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
No we shouldn't. Veganism exists as a choice for a reason... Try not to enforce this on others just because you choose to be a vegan.
2018-08-16 02:23
#24
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Being omnivore is also a choice (actually, nevermind, it was enforced on you by your parents and society, sort of like religion). I didn't push veganism up your ass, I gave you a list of informative documentaries so you can watch them and make an educated decision by YOURSELF.
2018-08-16 02:31
#27
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
You can choose to eat whatever you want and you can choose to live however you want. You choose to be vegan and others do not. I respect your decisions, but you are not respecting anybody else's. That makes you an arrogant person incapable of an open-mind. So instead of misusing the word "education", be educated yourself on how to act and respect others when "choice" is a universal paradigm we all share. Have a good day.
2018-08-16 02:33
#38
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
"Educated decision: When you make an educated decision about something, you've learned about the subject before making up your mind — you've been educated or educated yourself, and you understand it completely." And again, I did not disrespect anyone's decision. This is a free speech forum, where I gave my opinion - "we should all go vegan" - and supported it with four documentaries, so that anyone who doesn't share the same opinion can learn more about the subject and then make an inference. Have a good night.
2018-08-16 02:42
#40
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Well I can agree to your descriptions and information, but your replies say differently. Even with your documentaries, nobody "should" do anything... That is the point I am making. Your opinions respected and I obviously meant no disrespect either. I have vegan friends and non-vegan friends, equally they are all amazing. Have a good day.
2018-08-16 02:44
Saying u have an educated opinion is just wrong. Please reconsider what educated means and explain to me how can you be so educated in the subject when you are not saying that if you go vegan u will need supplements for the rest of your life.
2018-08-16 04:25
#103
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Ok you have to understand this: every nutrient needed for a human being is present in plants, grains, cereals, vegetables and fruits. You do not need to eat dead flesh to obtain them, by eating meat you’re simply obtaining some of these nutrients in second-hand, as they were obtained by the animal in first-hand. Ffs
2018-08-16 05:22
#121 just stop repeating the same shit you saw in some docummentary, you think it works good for you, try it. But stop spreading shit as knowledge.
2018-08-16 20:05
Vegetal proteins are lower quality for example, learnd in 7th grade. A good diet should contain milk , eggs , and meat too. You don't get all you need , and half what you get is not enough. There are also people who need something more , like fat , or b12 for skin etc and cannot find all they need only in vegetables. And Im pretty sure you need supliments if you are sportive or if you work somewhere you need to be active.
2018-08-16 20:19
#130
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
bRaInWaShEd
2018-08-16 20:24
Should I believe some Indians who loves cows instead of basic science and all the nutritionists?
2018-08-16 20:26
+1 man. these 0iq beta burgers will never understand. going vegan was the best decision i have ever made
2018-08-16 02:32
#39
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Thank You
2018-08-16 02:42
#53
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France Qu0sT 
B12?
2018-08-16 03:07
404
2018-08-16 04:26
#147
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France Qu0sT 
Lol
2018-08-17 16:56
i actually have too much b12 in my system. i’m healthier than u
2018-08-16 05:24
Nt beta male cuck
2018-08-16 02:35
#32
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Peru vaniIIa 
Wow thanks. You writing this HLTV thread changed my whole perspective on eating meat. Thanks.
2018-08-16 02:38
#34
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United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
YUMMY YUMMY MEAT IN MY BELLY, YUM YUM YUM
2018-08-16 02:39
sorry mate, i need to see your caps lock loicense
2018-08-16 04:19
#95
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United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
I DROPPED IT 😢😢
2018-08-16 04:51
send in the choppers
2018-08-16 04:52
#97
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United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
CHOPPER SAYS ELLO CHEZZA youtu.be/a8GXIknZXsQ
2018-08-16 05:04
#127
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Argentina W0LFy[RushB] 
*FBI OPEN UP*
2018-08-16 20:07
as i scientist i have a huge problem with the studies shown in what the health.
2018-08-16 02:40
#41
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
And I don't think a good scientist would spend its time on hltv
2018-08-16 02:45
and why do you think that?
2018-08-16 03:02
#55
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Assuming you are a psychologist, I don't think you can call yourself a "scientist". Not despising your profession, which I think is nice, but it doesn't really qualify as a science. It is better classified as one of the humanities. But we're going off topic here. If you have problems with those studies, watch "Forks Over Knives" so that you can learn about more lifelong studies made by scientists.
2018-08-16 03:14
1) I saw a lot of people thinking psychology is not science. It is. I got a bachelor of science and a master of science in psychology and basically half of the study is statistics and methology and thats whats makes a scientist. Statistics and methology isnt unique for psychology but also for every other field of science. This gives me the qualification to evaluate those studies. I dont say they are all bad but there were definitely some issues with the quality and study design. 2) i think going vegan is the best choice when you cant buy high quality meat 3) the dose makes the poison. Eating a appropriate amount of good quality meat is okay.
2018-08-16 03:44
#65
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
1) I respect your opinion about this, but I also got a bachelor of science in management and currently taking a master of science in strategic management (both with lots of statistics, maths, etc) and I don't call myself a scientist. I do make use of science, but for me management is not a true science (there are opinions in favor and against it being a science, like psychology). 2) and 3) going vegan is not only about health issues, it also involves morality, hence I think you should watch "Earthlings"
2018-08-16 04:00
#36
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Australia t0rrent 
Animals are pathetic creatures that deserve to be farmed and eaten for the pleasure of a much more intelligent and superior species
2018-08-16 02:40
#42
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Can't tell if bait or just plain ignorance
2018-08-16 02:45
I don't see any ignorance? More intelligent than animals? True. Superior to animals? True. (Those statements are undisputable facts) What have animals done to deserve the affection and care you "provide" them? Why do, after so many years, do people place them on plinths as gods and spew fake photoshopped news in meat eaters faces? Like a lion is superior to a gazelle, we are superior to all others, therefore, we feast on the spoils of our domination of the animal kingdom
2018-08-16 03:30
#64
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
The superiority complex is strong in this one. What makes you think we have more right to live in this planet more than they do? They share the planet Earth with us, they've been here before us, they are living beings just like we are, they can feel emotions, pain and suffering like we do. A lion eats a gazelle to survive, but we are rational beings, we do not need animal food to survive (in fact plant-based food would stop hunger in the world if everyone adopted it). We choose to torture and kill animals simply for our own pleasure. But it will backfire, we are hurting the planet, we will go extinct by our own stupidity, while Earth will still be here and it will heal itself with time.
2018-08-16 03:46
#105
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Australia t0rrent 
You're whole argument is based on feelings then you talk about us being "rational beings". Your only justification for me to not eat meat is your OWN feelings. I eat meat because it's delicious and there is negligible consequence to anything I care about.
2018-08-16 06:55
#115
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
I give up on hltv kids
2018-08-16 12:51
#45
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Germany PeKay 
Vegans are dumb people eat meat since they exist Like nearly every animal
2018-08-16 02:52
#66
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
We used to eat meat to survive (like predators do), now we don't need to do that, we have mastered agriculture and we can live (well) with a plant-based diet. But instead we choose to torture and kill animals for our own pleasure.
2018-08-16 04:03
No we cant. You need supplements. Stop it.
2018-08-16 04:29
#89
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Believe in whatever you want, but me and many other vegan people are the prove that we don't lol
2018-08-16 04:35
Many other vegans with troubles are prove that vegan diet as it is right now cant work. We need more time, in 5-10 years might be. Believing some vegab documentals is not a smart point if you ask me, go to some specialist by yourself tell him about your habits and health issues and he would find a good fit for you, but it wont last long 100% .
2018-08-16 04:42
No thanks
2018-08-16 03:04
#52
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France Qu0sT 
B12 No need any other argument. B12 so become responsable and flexitarian. A bit fromage everything. It is jetter tout stop sugar for your health than meat btw. /Closed
2018-08-16 03:06
#62
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
/Open True that B12 is important for us, but it also can be found in vegan foods like breakfast cereal, many vegetable milks and butters, nutritional yeast (nooch)… Vegetarians also eat cheese and it does contain a lot of B12, although cheese has many other unhealthy substances. You can also take a B12 supplement just to make sure you get enough, which is what I do for now, although it is not needed if you master your diet and pay attention to this, but I'm still a beginner (almost 1 year). /Closed
2018-08-16 03:33
#146
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France Qu0sT 
No no no and no my friend. First of all, you are not vegan if you eat cheese, or drink milk. You are vegetarian, and this can be an okay diet. Then let me explain it to you. Your brain need 20 essientals amino acids to work, develop, and accessorely not die. You Can product 12 of them on your own, the 8 others need to be found in the nature. They all exist on the vegetals reign, except for B12. B12 is naturally product if you are a vos or any ruminants. You Can find it if your specie eat its own poo, like rabbits. But if you are a carnivorian, a scavenger, or if you cant eat your own poo like humans, dog, Cats... Then you need to find it. And you Can only find it in products that Come from other animals like meat, eggs, cheese and milk in enormous quantities. And these pills are made with the help of animals, it IS not fully synthetic. So you can't be a Real vegan. You can go vegetarian but the best will be flexitarian, a bit of everything. Peace!
2018-08-17 16:47
Eating animals that eat the natural diet is normal, all cultures of the world do it. so should we do something so unnatural as vegan? You can see easy the health deficiency they have, infertility, too skinny and weak, bad thinkings, lacking over 50 nutrients most are best absorbed with animal meats, whos animals are eating the natural diet, not processed meat. There is balance we must have that includes animal meats, vitamins b12 a d b6 k most vegans have deficiency and many amino acids. But we also cannot eat too much LDL cholesterol or get too fat, or eat too much proteins or there will be chronic illness. but veganism is not good for you or the world. I watched some those vegan shows before, they ignore a lot of information and focus on unhealthy meats.
2018-08-16 03:15
#69
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
You're eating dead flesh, how can that be healthy for you? I see in your comment a lot of "information" brainwashed by the meat industry and big meat companies. Maybe you should watch "Cowspiracy", and of course "Earthlings", so that you know where your food comes from.
2018-08-16 04:09
My food comes from local farms, wild caught fish and grass fed cows. I know exactly where it comes from and it's exactly healthy as all humans in history eat this food. Grain fed cows are not healthy to eat.
2018-08-16 04:10
#71
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
You don't see the backstage. Believe in what you want, but the worst blind is the one who doesn't want to see.
2018-08-16 04:16
See what
2018-08-16 04:16
What is backstage?
2018-08-16 04:19
#81
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
It was a metaphor. Basically you don't see what happens in the slaughterhouses, barns and stables, because they are far from the population.
2018-08-16 04:27
What should I know about it? I fished and kill my own meat before. I can kill the cow or chicken myself if I want to visit. Nothing they are doing to harm my meat...
2018-08-16 04:28
#86
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
You really think a population with millions of people can be fed with meat EVERYDAY of the year simply with the supply of local small and medium farms?
2018-08-16 04:32
You don't need meat every day. I also eat fruit, rice, soup. But the population rises and goes down to the capacity of production. I don't see any food shortage here, and the economy is seperate from Africans.
2018-08-16 04:34
#57
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Nepal hpbaxx 
plants are living organisms, so what's left to eat?
2018-08-16 03:17
#59
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World mad25100 
ok >starts to eat burger king :)))))))
2018-08-16 03:21
#68
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Czech Republic SpOokyChickeN 
I Fuc... Love Meat so NOPE !
2018-08-16 04:08
no more meat = no more well done steaks smothered with ketchup served between two slices of stale white bread hmm
2018-08-16 04:21
Well done WutFace
2018-08-16 12:07
#78
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United States CousinBilly 
Sure, if you enjoy sleeping on the concrete as we tear down your house and construct a farm over it. So many cities would need to be demolished in order to make space for all of the crops. Impossible and gay.
2018-08-16 04:23
#92
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United Kingdom Zphkl 
What can you even eat that is tasty and vegan, I could grab a few leaves from the bushes outside my house and call myself vegan
2018-08-16 04:47
fruit
2018-08-16 04:49
Thats like saying valve isn't milking every dollar they can get from skins
2018-08-16 05:09
#101
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Bulgaria squezzi 
I refrain from eating meat for at least 3 straight months an year. Never felt better. Don't quit it but don't eat it too often. Everything is a poison moderation is the key to a long and healthy life
2018-08-16 05:14
#137
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Norway JorgyZ 
Why not just eat meat more rarely? Must be easier than just completely stopping from eating it 3 months in a row, there is no key to a long and healthy life btw
2018-08-16 20:36
#139
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Bulgaria squezzi 
Seems to work for me tho. Got a few days ago blood test, sugar, hormones and cholesterol tests. All were normal. I feel good as well, can't wish for anything else.
2018-08-16 20:38
#142
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Norway JorgyZ 
Yeah but i mean you can be unhealthy and live to youre 100
2018-08-16 22:24
As if making a post on hltv about this is going to change anything OMEGALUL Keep thinking your doing good and making a difference when it's legit just a waste of effort.
2018-08-16 07:21
#117
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Keep being fat second america
2018-08-16 12:52
Wanst what the health debunked???
2018-08-16 12:40
#116
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
Hmmm.. no
2018-08-16 12:51
#119
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Europe MpK_ 
Just because of this thread, im going to buy meat for dinner
2018-08-16 13:39
You can't turn vegan cuz you eat microbes all the time
2018-08-16 20:23
just cuz ur a fucking vegan,doesnt mean u should be so annoying about it,everyones different and if ur ego goes up just cuz u think ur something special when ur a vegan,thats bs.+ If u werent a hypocrete and actually didwhat u said u wouldnt be responding to hate comments,fucktard
2018-08-16 20:31
#135
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Norway JorgyZ 
Everyone who goes vegan and writes stuff on the internet about how animals are slaughtered and tortured OMEGALUL Normal vegans who just eat salad and shut up are fine smileyface
2018-08-16 20:35
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