Don't come here thinking you know some shit when you're still discussing elections and politics, its theater ffs.
You need to live 16 years to realize its a joke.
Strong economy and Trump? 10% bump to national debt and give it to rich people in tax cuts :D Poor people and middle class are getting ass raped there. They should go for the same socioeconomic model that made America great after WWII.
socialism in usa is non existant, what you have is fascists and rainbow coloured fascists. and bernie sanders. who's that again?
there's no socialism in usa in any form
Real socialism hasnt been tested in the USA yet.
Socialist aspects in the US began with the New Deal. The US may not have free healthcare but is one of the countries on Earth that spends most in welfare and public works. People are blind.
Americans hate socialism !
Bernie Sanders is an idiota
Democratic socialism, which Bernie is, can work in the US as it has in the past. Straight socialism would be a mistake.
Way too many soy boys with the right to vote.
>Scandinavian countries are capitalists; Lower taxes than USA's
sanders is not a socialist. he has social policies, yes. he says free healthcare and education. what is wrong with that? america already has social policies, if it was pure capitalism firefighters would charge money for saving you. Sanders wants a more social state that is all. If he wanted pure socialism, he would attack free market and would say state should own everything which isnt his deal.
We can't tell apart capitalism from socialism anymore. It's all welfare state / social democracy. USSR won the cold war by playing chess games with our minds.
It's all about making people work their asses off for the elite. The model is merely the mean to meet this goal.
Believing US economy is strong, is a sure sign you have major gaps in your understanding of world economics.
A country like China could pull the plug on US (bankrupt them), whilst the opposite isn't the case. But as US is a very important trade partner, pulling the plug, cashing in on the debt, would be a financial risk.
US is also highly dependant on the petro-dollar (nations investing in dollars, to trade oil.)
Ghadaffi was about to introduce gold dinar to other middle eastern nations. This is why he was heavily targeted by the US, everything else you heard is pure rubbish. If he had succeeded, nations would swap dollars with gold dinars, instantly bankrupting US.
People aren't very well informed by the modern mass medias, that is for sure.
Communism and Socialism always failed, this will never work, this only works in the first years. It is like a drug you have joy in the beginning, but later u see the consequences
It will never happen. Not even far left/left libs support them. They may win in some large cities that have hipster antifa dbag that know nothing but will never win anything major.
There are many socialists owning iphones in the USA Lmao
no shit sherlock
capitalism in USA ended in 1890 with sehrman act,
Just look at Roosevelt executive order 6102 or Kennedyminimal wage shit which raised unemployment very hard in black community xD pure communism
Bernie Sanders isn't even a socialist or democratic socialist, he's simply a social democrat.
The kind of socialism you are discussing is only favored by the same people who glorify the USSR. They will never get anywhere in this country.
Socialism /=/ limited social reforms.
Glad to see a Swede who actually has a brain and uses it cuz unfortunately most of you guys are brainwashed, mentally ill Leftists...
Good to see a real Swede who does not think like a swedistanian!
Ill vote for bernie just to get marijauana legal xD If he was against trump he would of won the first election. If redid eleciton id still vote Trump over Hillary. She did some fuckery to get in that spot over bernie.
Oh god thought i finally got rid of this whole socialism topic after fake news fox comparing us to venezuela and our insane amount of cup cake stores lul xD
The nordic model is the best model.. !
USA more like USSA, it already is a communist shithole
State enforced monopolies and extreme welfare, just that the welfare goes military, agriculture, energy, pharmaceuticals. Trillions of USD is given to select industry by their government, state controlled economy the only word for it is communism.
Facts about a so-called "socialist" country....
State of the economy?
- Danish GDP growth has increased gradually in recent years (2.1 pct. in 2017).
- Unemployment is low (3.9 pct. June 2018). Surpluses on the balance of
payments, central government finances and government budget balance.
- Debt reduced to 36.4 pct. of GDP in 2017. Substantially lower than in USA. Inflation is
low and stable (1.1 pct. in 2017).
Open for Business?
- According to U.S. News and their ranking: “Open for Business – These marketoriented
countries are a haven for capitalists and corporations”, Denmark ranks
as number 4 in the world. The US ranks as number 43.
- Denmark is number 7 on Forbes Best Countries for Business list. The US is
- The latest World Bank's ranking of ease of doing business has Denmark as
number 3 worldwide and number 1 in Europe. The US is number 6.
- Denmark is consistently in the top 10 of most innovative countries in the world
together with the US. See e.g. 2018 Bloomberg Innovation Index, the World
Economic Forum’s latest Global Competitiveness Index, and the Global innovation
index of 2018 published by Cornell University, INSEAD business school, and
the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO).
- The European Commission ranks Denmark number 1 in the European Union in
terms of digital economy.
Education and Human Capital?
- Denmark is in the top 5 on World Economic Forum’s latest Human Capital Index
together with the US – defined as the knowledge and skills people possess that
enable them to create value in the global economic system.
- Denmark is in top 10 in U.S. News about Best countries for Education.
- Denmark is ranked 2 in the world when it comes to attracting, developing and
retaining top talent by the IMD Business School. The US is ranked 16.
- In Heritage Foundations 2018 Index of Economic Freedom - defined as “Economic
freedom is the fundamental right of every human to control his or her own labor
and property” - Denmark ranks as number 12. The US ranks as number 18.
- According to the World Economic Forum, “you're more likely to achieve the
American dream if you live in Denmark”.
Don’t people work in Denmark?
- We do! Among the working age population, more people work in Denmark than in
USA. 75 pct. of the Danish working age population is working. In US it is 70,6
pct., cf. OEDS data on employment
Work-life-balance and Happiness?
- Denmark has the best Work-Life-Balance in the world according to World
Economic Forum. And we are one of the most happiest countries in the world
according to this year’s World Happiness Report – competing, by the way, with
Norway, Finland, Iceland, and Sweden.
Never vote for a democrat
Sanders is simply advocating fir a scandanavian system. And the corporate tax rate is higher on paper, but after deductions and loopholes its lower than any other modern country. Socialism is being misused and people are usually advocating for a social democracy where most things are kept under the free market, but things that don't work are kept off the market.
It's going the right way in the US
are you serious? Socialism isn't being normalized, the thing americans call "socialism" is. But that is a social democracy at best. Bernie Sanders might call himself a Socialist, but he isn't a socialist. He doesn't demand the abolishment of capitalism, the free market or private ownership. He's a socdem, not a demsoc. Same goes for Ocasio-Cortez
Sanders is a rich man. He is hoping kids vote for his idiot views which he knows will not work. Lucky for America, kids are to lazy to vote.
America is already socialist. They take peoples taxes and give the money to people the refuse to work. The whole world is heading for a great depression in the next few years. We need to get the sub saharans out of America. Many have lived on welfare for generations now and it's not stopping.
You do realize no U.S. politician and hardly any citizen is calling for actual socialism. You'd be signing a death sentence, it's America the poster child of capitalism. Bernie and now most Democratic voters in general just want the basics to be covered. Single payer, a living wage, and free college. It's to create a fair playing ground for social mobility.
Scandinavian countries have super high income/sales tax. A lot of these taxes stifle upward social mobility. Denmark is a very small country and is apart of the EU a collection of much larger countries who all trade and do business in unison. Obviously in their case being the beneficiary of larger countries trading with them will allow for them to have a very low deficit, and be able to afford policies that will help their citizens maintain a high standard of living. However, their standard of living is simply fake, not through making the best decisions or innovating, but through the government maintaining the standard of living. People the US make a pretty high amount compared to most other countries, but are the largest spenders in the world. This is why the rich are growing, because poor people play rich buying their 1000$ shirts, and not saving anything or working hard to better their life in their job or in their neighborhood. Denmark is a majority white danish country with similar view points, the US is multi-racial, national, ethno and religious country which makes the two totally incomparable.
It's funny that people from other countries are saying that socialism isn't becoming more popular in the USA because they would obviously know. If you lived here for a week and went out driving you would see bumper stickers for Bernie and the like everywhere. Hell, every time I go to a party there's some drunk idiot spewing shit from his mouth how we need free college because his tuition is outrageous. So yes, there is a wave of socialistic ideas happening.
usa has always been socialistic
Imagine if they had Hillary instead of Trump