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NGIN
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Germany ropzGOD 
Good morning my fellow HLTV community. Today I wanted to talk about "turkish" CSGO Player; Engin "ngin" Kor and why he can play for any german team. So as some maybe know, ngin isnt fully turkish. Almost like myself, hes an immigrant from germany with turkish roots and apparently recognized as a turkish citizen. According to Liquipedia and his streams he is partly german/grew up there. Looking at his streams he is playing the game in german. I dont really watch his streams/probably never cared but if he is actually german (why else would he play the game in german and why else did i hear him being german) why couldnt he join a team like Big, Alternate etc. Obviously our scene isnt known for being particulary strong, but its not like Space Soldiers is performing any better than Big. (Both teams mostly winning favoured games but losing against much superior teams and maybe even win) Right now a team like Big would need an AWPer. Yes they have smooya but he has more impact with a rifle and they cant afford to lose firepower due to tizian and smooyas inconsistency. I really like Tizian, but for an you need to make space somehow. Since Gob is the IGL he could either mive to coach or replace him with Tizian. I think ngin would have bigger succes outside of turkey, just because of the scene not being any big. What do you guys think? TL;DR: Since NGIN is part german, would you like to see him in BIG instead of either Tizian or Gob? Or maybe another german team.
2018-08-19 09:42
Dunno but nex should be there or you won't have me as a fan
2018-08-19 09:46
#3
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Germany ropzGOD 
He will and he should
2018-08-19 09:46
#9
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Netherlands DerFuhrer 
+1
2018-08-19 09:51
#83
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Faroe Islands memento_1 
shitty player only shows up on dust2
2018-08-19 20:30
Nobody asked you
2018-08-20 02:15
ngin - german maj3r - french if they leave , rip spaceS
2018-08-19 09:46
#5
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Germany ropzGOD 
I mean both can have more succces in their countrirs Would do it tbh
2018-08-19 09:46
not necessarily, ngin is a bot and w0xic to replace him would be great as ss need a strong awper and maj3r could easily be replaced by tarik if mibr fails (which it most likely will), i mean he did igl his team to win a major and this ss squad has way more firepower than the c9 roster did imagine: tarik xantares w0xic calyx paz 3 superstar level players and 2 solid others who arent as consistent but only 2-3 of these in the team need to fire off for them to win games against even the toughest foes
2018-08-19 11:00
#39
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Germany ropzGOD 
So, NGIN is not a bot. He just cant frag that much because he is overshadowed by the rest. If hed put time into getting better in Big or any other german team, hed be a great addidtion and may help Big to atleast T2 success. Woxic would seem likely to join SS, but tarik isnt gonna happen. He is probably gonna stay in NA and if I were him (I can speak some very basic but fluent turkish becaus im kurd) i wouldnt even go to that shithole (country based not SS).
2018-08-19 16:47
Stfu burger
2018-08-19 17:32
#67
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Germany ropzGOD 
Im german and also turk/kurd If you have nothing to say stfu
2018-08-19 17:36
ropzgod you are right man..
2018-08-19 18:13
uh oh angry turks inc they gonna yell at u for calling turkey a shithole
2018-08-19 18:07
#78
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Germany ropzGOD 
Ikr They cant call me racist cuz im turk/kurd myself LUL
2018-08-19 18:08
Big is international after they got smooya
2018-08-19 09:46
#6
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Germany ropzGOD 
4 germans still counts as german. I think only when theres like 3 or smth
2018-08-19 09:47
tabsen polish nex german gob b turkish tizian german smooya british legija serbian kakafu austrian nt
2018-08-19 17:16
#58
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Germany ropzGOD 
1. Partly polish 2. Yes 3. Partly Turk 4. Yes 5. Yes 6. Partly serbien 7. Austria and germany are basically the same bro Whats ur point
2018-08-19 17:17
nationationality is not citizenship
2018-08-19 17:25
#60
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Germany ropzGOD 
So ill be kurd then How
2018-08-19 17:26
lol
2018-08-19 09:47
#8
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Germany ropzGOD 
Was
2018-08-19 09:47
Tizian > ngin
2018-08-19 09:55
#11
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Germany ropzGOD 
I mean tizian is entry/support and ngin an awper. You can switch gob to coach and sign him and maybe make tizian or smooya a passive igl similar to chrisj in mouz
2018-08-19 09:56
Gob is a player you can't change, he is so essential for BIGs success. He is an insane IGL
2018-08-19 09:59
#13
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Germany ropzGOD 
He is thats why im saying perhaps move him to coach. If lmbt was somewhat of a decent player like chris with his leading/coaching skills, hed be one of the best igls aswell. My point is make tizian or smooya the chrisj and gob can be the lmbt.
2018-08-19 10:01
Could work out but i think denis is a better option aswell as switching smooya for syrsoN
2018-08-19 10:04
#17
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
they arent allowed to buy syrsoN aslong as long as he plays under attax
2018-08-19 10:05
#19
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Germany ropzGOD 
Yes
2018-08-19 10:05
#18
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Germany ropzGOD 
Big tried to get syrson but attax counteroffered with a ridiculous amount because they know they have one of the best german players.
2018-08-19 10:05
Da war ja was
2018-08-19 10:06
#21
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Germany ropzGOD 
Genau Aber denis wär au net schlecht nur ein awper könnt denen wirklich helfen. Und da syrson ja unmöglich is, wäre ngin ja ne möglichkeit
2018-08-19 10:07
Stimmt obwohl der jzt nich der beste ist
2018-08-19 10:09
#25
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Germany ropzGOD 
Ich denk schon, dass ngin besser als keev wäre, weil in space soldiers er überschattet wird (im englischen klingts besser).
2018-08-19 10:11
Ja besser als keev sowieso aber die brauchen halt wenn gob coach ist n full deutsches lineup
2018-08-19 10:15
#28
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Germany ropzGOD 
Es gab son video von cologne wo man die im teamspeak gehört hat und die reden nur english. Gob hat in NRG auch english gecallt is kein großes problem.
2018-08-19 10:17
Ich hab gehört dass es gob schwer fällt bei soviel Micro Management und midround Calls Englisch zu reden
2018-08-19 10:52
#40
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Germany ropzGOD 
Kann sein, schien mir aber nicht so in dem Teamspeak video. Aber um full Deutsch zu reden, müssen sie smooya replacen und der is zwar ein weng inconsistent manchmal, aber sehr wichtig.
2018-08-19 16:48
#14
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Turkey ConqUre 
Turkish*
2018-08-19 10:02
#16
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Germany ropzGOD 
So a guy, has been talking german in streams, is actually playing cs in german, has been known to be partly german and even says so on liquipedia isnt german?
2018-08-19 10:04
#22
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Turkey ConqUre 
Nationality names start with capital letters :)
2018-08-19 10:08
#23
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Germany ropzGOD 
Oh my bad But its hltv who cares as long as you get the point ffs
2018-08-19 10:09
#26
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Turkey ConqUre 
+1
2018-08-19 10:12
I play cs in English, and i talk English in the game but it doesn't mean that i'm not Turkish. If he's comfortable playing cs in German, obviously he would play the game in German. If he is okay with hltv and tournaments showing a Turkish flag next to his name, i don't know why is this a problem.
2018-08-19 11:00
#38
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Germany ropzGOD 
He is turkish, yes but also part german. German isnt an easy language btw, yyou dont just lear it by playing csgo.
2018-08-19 16:38
He is a Tutkish person living in Germany, he is ethically Turkish but he is a German citizen.
2018-08-19 19:19
He is a Tutkish person living in Germany, he is ethically Turkish but he is a German citizen.
2018-08-19 19:19
#41
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Germany ropzGOD 
If it says so in Liquipedia, which basically is only info from the players/orgs/agent or whatever, he is german.
2018-08-19 16:49
Thank you for not being racist and I am shocked to see no one is making racism in this thread, biased comments etc have a good day -BlankyShlanky
2018-08-19 10:23
i wouldnt even go to that shithole (country based not SS). SO NT GG WP
2018-08-19 17:36
#68
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Germany ropzGOD 
IM TURK/KURD ASWELL BRO I HATE GOING THERE BECAUSE IM PARENTS FORCE ME EVERY SUMMER. AND SINCE WHEN ARE TURKS A RACE.
2018-08-19 17:37
yes ngiN great for BiG. Very underrated player. Pls BiG buy him out.
2018-08-19 10:48
yes pls so we can replace him and ss can finally win tournaments
2018-08-19 11:01
Well, let’s be fair to ngiN. For the German scene, he’s not a bad player at all. It is just that SS have too many individual talents that can frag 20+ every game and ngiN isnt doing that. He’s still a good team player and he’s not selfish.
2018-08-19 11:30
#37
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Germany ropzGOD 
+1 what im saying he is a decent player
2018-08-19 16:37
#36
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Ukraine Dan5ikPlay 
ngin is GOD
2018-08-19 11:32
#42
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Germany ropzGOD 
Wouldnt call him a god, but he is a decent AWPer who just cant frag because of being overshadowed.
2018-08-19 16:50
YES YES PLS TAKE HIM BIG YOU CAN DO IT PLS BUY HIM
2018-08-19 16:52
#44
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Germany ropzGOD 
Another reason for him bevause ppl like you thinking hes a bot but hes just being overshadowed.
2018-08-19 16:53
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-08-19 17:01
#49
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Germany ropzGOD 
Look at his stats and compare to another T2/T3 awper with an overall struggeling team and look at Calyx Xantares and paz stats aswell.
2018-08-19 17:02
#45
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Russia Baitzera_SK 
Why destroy top 10 team with turkish bot LUL xaxaxaxax
2018-08-19 16:55
#46
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Germany ropzGOD 
Dont act russian everyone knows you arent Also Big is no way near top 10. The run in Cologne showed they may have potential in T2 but they need an AWPer for that. When you look at his stats, he plays shit when they lose and good when they win, HOW MOST AWPers. He is no kennyS, guardian, s1mple or oskar but a great T2/T3 AWPer who can help BIG. He is better than Gob, statswise similar to tizian but different roles. He is also getting overshadowed by the rest sometimes and, if 3 player in your team are playing great, its impossible to have a 4th player with 20+/25+ kills. Since SS may want woxic, im just sayig he can go to Big or attax or whatever german team. I mean theres also a business part in there like money etc. but you can take him into consoderation.
2018-08-19 17:00
#48
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Russia Baitzera_SK 
0/8 xaxaxaxax ngin = trash LUL xaxaxax
2018-08-19 17:02
#50
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Germany ropzGOD 
You didnt even read it expected If you have nothing to say stfu no one wants ppl liek you
2018-08-19 17:03
#51
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Russia Baitzera_SK 
fan of ropz LUL xaxaxaxxax ropz = bot ngin = bot xaxaxaxaxax
2018-08-19 17:03
#52
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Germany ropzGOD 
I mean youre trying to trigger me and it doesnt seem to work
2018-08-19 17:04
#53
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Russia Baitzera_SK 
cry is free axxaxaxaxax
2018-08-19 17:05
#55
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Germany ropzGOD 
And?
2018-08-19 17:09
first of all, as a turk i can say he's german. just because his family is turkish doesnt mean he's turkish. he's more german than turkish just ignore these turks secondly, he's a nice guy and could do better in german speaking team. ( same as maj3r for french team ) . but he's not an awper wtf? even in space soldiers calyx maj3r and paz pick up awp more than him. And for SS wise there is no better support player available for them. Thats why they are forced to play with ngin tbh. thirdly, there is no way SS can get woxic. maybe turkish stars can align in a team somehow, somewhat ( calyx paz xantares woxic ) but it won't happen any time soon.
2018-08-19 17:10
#56
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Germany ropzGOD 
Yes, I didnt know how hes german or whatever but thank you. He may do, but is he really not an AWPer? I mean on Liquipedia it says hes an AWPer so I must guess he was an AWPer and that may even mean he can be more consistent than he is right now. Maybe, if woxic desperatly wants to play for SS (which I wouldnt understand tbh, he could play for a way better team) he could when his contract ends. And if thats in 2 years, then FeelsBadMan.
2018-08-19 17:13
He is like a bot guys hell no. Even Space Soldiers should kick him. He is not deserving a tier 1/2 team
2018-08-19 17:28
#62
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Germany ropzGOD 
#54 says he is supporting and not awping so when he actually does he may even be better. Hes also getting overshadowed.
2018-08-19 17:28
In today's cs, support players should get frags too imo. Also many IGL's stats are better than him and ngin knows it too. I don't think his statistics will improve if he change his position.
2018-08-19 17:41
#72
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Germany ropzGOD 
He was an AWPer so im guessing SS doesnt even utilize him properly. And the only supports who are fragging are xyp9x and krimz.
2018-08-19 17:42
I'm sure if ngin was good at awping, ss would use him as an awper. He is not actually an awper.
2018-08-19 17:44
#74
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Germany ropzGOD 
According to liqupedia he is Ill just do some research and see how he was. Maybe they are just doing that because Calyx, Xantares and Paz are playing good and they need a support.
2018-08-19 17:45
nGin wasn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such an ability and movement with AWP? nGin puts the game in another level, we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. GeT_RiGhT breaks records, olofmeister breaks records. nGin breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
2018-08-19 17:30
#64
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Germany ropzGOD 
Agree
2018-08-19 17:30
#69
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France StickyRice 
-ngiN +GODESPE
2018-08-19 17:39
#70
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Germany ropzGOD 
Yes and get ngin to german team
2018-08-19 17:39
Ok im gonna explain Ngin is not turk because he grew up germany, raised there. He can speaking deutsch btw. Yes his name and surname are turkish but it doesnt mean he is a turkish. Secondly he is not an awper even in ss he is the last guy of using awp xd. Well, be honest he is the worst player in ss but in my opinion he is not a bot. In lan tournuments when i look his face he was always nervous. I think he was telling himself 'wtf im playing so bad ss fans gonna swear to me' so he needs absolutely more self-confidence. Thirdly yes he can go a german team and mini or woxic can join ss too. it's absolutely gonna be better for both teams. Finally, i hope woxic join ss one day. Just imagine that Xantares Woxic Calyx Paz Maj3r/tarik/mini Have a nice day.
2018-08-19 17:57
#76
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Germany ropzGOD 
Yes I know that now according to liquipedia he is, so he must have been some kind of awper otherwise it would only say rifler. May be the case, because he has to support them and fans will think he sucks. he probably wont
2018-08-19 18:05
#79
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Europe cArn5 
Random turkish nova 3 > ngiN
2018-08-19 18:12
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