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device top 5 alltime?
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Finland MeAreFakeflagger 
This is just pure bs like he cant do anything if he plays for bad team. he cant carry. hits only easy shots with awp(sometimes even misses them) can someone tell me why would you consider him top 5 alltime he is not consistent btw.
2018-08-19 11:29
not even top 10 maybe
2018-08-19 11:29
#6
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United States ascendaNt_88 
0/8
2018-08-19 11:33
#10
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
No Astralis players have ever been top 10 all time, except Kyaerbye’s performance at Atlanta.
2018-08-19 11:37
#13
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United States ascendaNt_88 
YOUR_OPINIONS_LUL
2018-08-19 11:45
+1
2018-08-22 16:01
+1
2018-08-19 11:49
nignog
2018-08-22 16:01
#86
ropz | 
Denmark SokScs 
We are talking about all time, and then you bring up kjaerbye's lucky performance against VP in the final lol
2018-08-19 20:15
+1
2018-08-19 19:54
#129
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North America KiNGa_da_ACE 
Second most consistent AWP behind Guardian.. he is not top 5 all time though. I wish he would have stuck with the rifle though. He would be a more valuable player imo. He’s not even most valuable on his team. Xyp Glaive then device in terms of actual value and replacability
2018-08-20 23:41
he's basically the cogu of this cs generation a more key and stable awper
2018-08-20 23:47
#140
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North America KiNGa_da_ACE 
Cogu? I don’t watch that anime but u right. He’s a star player in a role player position. And it works. Idk y people hate him for that
2018-08-21 01:45
>that anime
2018-08-21 13:36
#2
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China VeryDongBeiGuy 
HAHA YES +1 +1 +1 He only holds defensive angles and hits shots even a gold nova could hit. He rely on his team SOOOO MUCH. He would get REKT in a pugging environment :)
2018-08-19 11:30
yeah exactly i dont get why he would be considered top 5 alltime. some delusional fanboy even put him top 1 lmao
2018-08-19 11:31
+1 he's also baiting so much, enjoys pure exit fragging as well
2018-08-19 12:12
What wins championships and gets you banging stats? Playing a puggy style or smart cs? I think devices stats and tournament wins prove the latter is most effective
2018-08-19 14:38
#125
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United States dev1cee 
+1
2018-08-20 22:36
c9 fluked major by playing like na pug stars
2018-08-20 23:50
And how far did it get them after that?
2018-08-21 00:03
they almost won cs_summit and held a good fight against faze clan in katowice
2018-08-21 00:04
They lost the final of a bo5 when they had a one map advantage and got beat by faze like they do every time except from the major (being the exception that proves the rule).
2018-08-21 00:08
+1
2018-08-22 16:21
#73
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Denmark Jehova 
you must not have seen some of his pugs if you think he is getting ''REKT''.
2018-08-19 17:34
#130
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North America KiNGa_da_ACE 
He would prob excel in pug style but doesn’t need to. He fits his role and plays it well so the team will succeed
2018-08-20 23:42
+1
2018-08-20 23:48
#3
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Netherlands 072 
cry is free
2018-08-19 11:30
#7
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Sweden Unluko 
+1
2018-08-19 11:34
awful bait
2018-08-19 11:32
list 1 point how hes better than likes of gtr olof cold kenny flusha jw etc
2018-08-19 11:35
#18
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
His skill is exaggerated the most.
2018-08-19 11:52
LMAO
2018-08-19 11:53
Why should I? I agree that he is not top-5. I disagree with other shit you wrote and its cocky intonation: "pure bullshit he cant do anything if he plays for bad team. he cant carry. hits only easy shots with awp(sometimes even misses them)" - sensless shit. "not even top 10 maybe" - even more senseless shit. He carried his team asses when they had the most rough time in their history (spring-summer of 2016, when they were barely getting through groupstages and had some reshuffles) and even became top-3 that year which a sign that he doesn't need to have a well-performing team. And the fact that there are better players doesn't mean you need to be arrogand and act like you EXPOSE THIS BAD DEVVE AND GIVE THOSE BLIND PEOPLE SOME LIGHT OF TRUTH. Device is a great player, not the best, probably never was the best, but the fact that he's always ONE OF the best is a reason to give him respect and credits, not trashtalk. And you just try to bait his fanboys by this cocky tone and pointless arguments just like 99% of this shithole forum.
2018-08-19 12:40
#123
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United States ascendaNt_88 
well said
2018-08-20 22:33
#131
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North America KiNGa_da_ACE 
The problem is that people can’t simultaneously think a player isn’t top 5 and still a very good player. They act like said player is complete shit just to defend themselves 😂😂 you are right. He’s not top 5 all time but he is still very talented and could be top 5 by the end of his career
2018-08-20 23:45
Device is just a good looking guy with not so much experince awping
2018-08-19 11:35
not even top 20
2018-08-19 11:37
Guess thats why he have been in top5 3 years in a row :> 0/8 bait
2018-08-20 15:45
#124
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United States ascendaNt_88 
4 now
2018-08-20 22:34
#12
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Allu, S1mple, Draken, GuardiaN, Mixwell, Oskar, Snax, Papa, Nitro, CerQ, KennyS, Xccurate, Skadoodle, Hen1, Mou, Smooya Just a small taste of pro AWPers that are better than Device.
2018-08-19 11:45
+11 device maybe most overrated player in history
2018-08-19 11:49
stop reading at allu
2018-08-19 11:50
#25
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
You fanboy Rain therefore your opinion can safely be discarded.
2018-08-19 11:58
Hahah. I am a bit of Rain tho too, at his best he was so very good, plus I've met the guy a few times and he is a very cool dude. EDIT: fan* shit I keep typ0eings hard today
2018-08-19 12:21
#40
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Finland Lassius 
allu>any AWPer in Turkey
2018-08-19 12:18
#68
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Netherlands jen5on 
w0xic is better imo
2018-08-19 13:56
#70
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Finland Lassius 
Oh true, completely forgot he was turkish
2018-08-19 15:04
Allu is worse S1mple is same level/better Draken is worse Guardian is same level/better Mixwell doesn't main awp anymore?? Oskar can be same level Snax... No comment Papa, he's a bit washed up and not as good anymore Nitro isn't really a star player/awper Cerq has the potential, just needs to be in more t1 events Kennys, when he's on point he's better Xccurate, haven't watched him a whole lot Skadoodle, I'd say a bit worse than Device but not far behind when both are at peak Hen1, haven't seen him perform well since Krakow and even during Krakow I found Kng more appealling Mou, where's Gambit even at now lol Smooooooooya, eh.. a bit worse I'd say. yes i just wasted some time of my life writing and commenting on that..
2018-08-19 13:37
s1mple/guardian -> same level -> LMAO
2018-08-21 20:24
#98
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Netherlands DutchCSBestCS 
Pasha: Not even good anymore lol Xccurate: Not proven against top 5 teams Skadoodle: Inconsistent as fuck, should've retired but literally wasn't allowed to because NA CS is hopeless when it comes to AWPers Hen1: Drinks too much and is a big dissapointment since his return Mou: Had his peak but isn't that impressive anymore
2018-08-19 21:02
-allu+ FalleN Also remove papa
2018-08-20 15:47
#132
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North America KiNGa_da_ACE 
Simple and guardian. Heni maybe
2018-08-20 23:46
#14
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
becuse device consitently gets atleast 2 kills pre round while surviving and the reason he does not hit any hard shots is becuse he always puts himself in a postion to get and easy shot and play it safe for his team
2018-08-19 11:47
#19
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Or he’s compensating for a significant deficit of individual skill.
2018-08-19 11:52
#21
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
well then hes atleast not draken shazam hen1 kng pasha and repeaks 20 million times and misses shots silvers hit consistently
2018-08-19 11:54
he misses easy shots tho.
2018-08-19 11:56
#59
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
do you watch device demos cus i watch device demos and i almosyt never see him miss a shot it just that you view him negitivly so you notice that 1/9 shot s he misses (sry for bad english)
2018-08-19 13:22
he does miss shots and doesnt make amazing shots almost any time. thats why there is not highlights of him
2018-08-19 19:51
#88
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
you cant argue with infadels
2018-08-19 20:46
you cant argue with delusional icelanders
2018-08-20 15:43
#33
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Indonesia linekerrr 
Top 3 2015 btw.
2018-08-19 12:01
#39
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United States ascendaNt_88 
nt he was top3 in 2015 and he didnt awp
2018-08-19 12:17
#42
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Literally my point.
2018-08-19 12:19
1. He was undeserved top 3 in 2015. 2. Of course he was awping lol. He had 0.16 AWP kills per round. He just wasnt the main awp.
2018-08-19 12:25
Yeah, like your opinion have more weight than people who make top-20 lists LMAO. I'm done with this place, kys boi.
2018-08-19 12:44
It should be so stuff like GeT_RiGhT > flusha and device and Snax > flusha wouldnt happen.
2018-08-19 13:02
#50
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United States ascendaNt_88 
undeserved according to you lmao. and he rifled most of the time.
2018-08-19 12:44
Not only according to me. I would say according to everyone who has something in his brain and watched the game back then. You said he didnt awp not me. Funfact: He had more kills per round with the AWP than cajunb.
2018-08-19 13:04
#93
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Sweden Dino1 
.. exactly. And that's the reason Cajun is playing against and with shitters in NA and Device being in top 1 team atm.
2018-08-19 20:52
#58
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United States Jammin800k 
The logic lmao "Becauae he knows how to get advantages and take easier shots instead of being flashy and forcing himself into difficult positions that actually means that he lacks skill" That's the equivalent of me seeing an enemy with his back turned from me and me running to his front so he sees me before I try to kill him so i can prove I'm "skilled"
2018-08-19 13:06
#94
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Sweden Dino1 
HLTV l o g i c s never stop to amaze me :P
2018-08-19 20:52
#97
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United States Jammin800k 
Yeah I dont understand why it's so exaggerated in threads about device though. The guy is a superstar and has been the best Danish player and by far the most consistent for years, he had problem in semis for a bit but often he was the reason his teams got there in the first place. One of the most versatile players in the scene only player that truly AWPed and rifled at top 5 or even top 10 level besides s1mple. Amazing pistols and yet people still find ways to discredit him because "his team is so good and play so structured" but that's largely due to him and he has played at that level in a multitude of systems anyway. Its just sad.
2018-08-19 21:01
device is edit fragger and gets ugly easy kills when his teammates bait for him
2018-08-19 11:55
exit
2018-08-19 11:55
#27
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Literal Danish Coldzera
2018-08-19 11:58
but worse
2018-08-19 12:00
#62
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
what ANY player being worse then the best player in the world what a good point
2018-08-19 13:31
if you think device now> cold 2016-2017 just leave hltv
2018-08-19 19:52
#89
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
do you even speak english?
2018-08-19 20:47
yes?
2018-08-20 15:43
>not consistent Only player who has consistently been in the top 5 for the past 3 years, and will probs be top 3 this year at this rate
2018-08-19 11:58
you know why? because hltv is danish
2018-08-19 12:00
Or device is just a beast? Guys been at the top for 3 years aside from when he was ill last year and the start of this year
2018-08-19 12:09
except for the last line huge +1
2018-08-19 11:59
There is more than 5 players with 2 majors or more. So device with only one major is not among the top5 all time.
2018-08-19 12:00
#41
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United States ascendaNt_88 
pronax 3 majors btw
2018-08-19 12:19
this one is one of the top5
2018-08-19 12:27
#32
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United Kingdom ChrisFroome 
Ofc lol
2018-08-19 12:01
#36
kennyS | 
Georgia d2xom 
kennyS, GuardiaN, FalleN, oskar, Skadoodle, JW, s1mple - all of them are better awpers in my opinion. But dev1ce is playing in a team which is kind of #1 at the moment. But as a player he is top anyway. Even making those easy kills isn't an easy task. It's an ability to choose right angle, position, movement, decision to make easy shots possible.
2018-08-19 12:14
#43
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United States ascendaNt_88 
skadoodle
2018-08-19 12:21
#45
kennyS | 
Georgia d2xom 
I didn't mean Skadoodle is in top 5 of all time.
2018-08-19 12:26
#51
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United States ascendaNt_88 
anyway, ska is washed up and bad now
2018-08-19 12:47
#74
kennyS | 
Georgia d2xom 
Maybe...
2018-08-19 18:41
coldzera, gtr, olofm, shox, kennyS, cant see him squeezing in since he has almost never the best player for larger amount of time (when he was it was only for like 1 month) but he is definitely close to top5
2018-08-19 12:13
#53
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Sri Lanka khorkalba 
Uh, that kind of rules KennyS out too then. Even during his best year when the AWP was outrageously overpowered he only managed to reach #6 on the HLTV end of year rankings. Device meanwhile was #3 for two years in a row. Also, Olof is overrated. His most memorable performance happened when he exploited the tec9 at Katowice 2015. Flusha was statistically a much more important and better player for Fnatic that year. In fact, Flusha should've been #1 for both 2014 and 2015. Unfortunately, rumours of him cheating probably influenced the decision to rank him lower.
2018-08-19 12:56
kennyS was the best player of the 2nd half of 2014 and he was the most insane carry in csgo history (+ s1mple this year) and olofm, say what you want but he was the best player in 2015. Flusha may have been the key factor for fnatics success but that doesnt mean he was the best. Thats my point of view. Btw, I dont take into consideration hltvs ranking since its based a lot on achievements and not overall individual performances thats why kennys was #6 2014 and device #3.. you may say that device didnt have much achievements in 2016 but nobody had, only fnatic, LG/SK and NaVi but no one else that much, not even VP (and no one from fnc and navi could match device that year, only s1mple when he joined navi and olofm in early 2016 - for me the top5 of 2016 was coldzera, NiKo, shox and 4th/5th device/s1mple). Also kennyS’ ranking last year can show how hltv ranks players when he was arguably a top5 player (behind cold, niko, s1mple and MAYBE fer) and berter than device.
2018-08-19 17:24
#83
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Sri Lanka khorkalba 
Insane carry? 1. The team was deliberately built around him being the superstar. 2. He was using a weapon that was incredibly OP. Even JW and skadoodle were gods that year, and they're dogshit players in terms of skill. KennyS just demonstrated how utterly ridiculous the weapon can be in the hands of a moderately skilled player. And he himself has admitted that it needed to be nerfed. 3. Comparing him to s1mple is laughable. S1mple often had no help at all from teammates, and even without the AWP he would still carry. Even with only a pistol and the rest of his teammates using rifles/smgs, he would still find a way to get a 4k and win the round.
2018-08-19 20:10
Yes, insane carry 1. Thats how its supposed to be, same goes for s1mple 2. He was and that doesnt change a thing since anyone could have used it but no one was that good and that fast to pull off stuff like him, he broke the meta and surpassed everyone, thats a fact. Btw, I wouldnt be calling him moderately skilled:) and surely I wouldnt call skadoodle a god in 2014. 3. Comparing him to s1mple is absolutely fitting. Insane carries in their teams where only they would frag and they would have to win rounds, matches and tournaments for their teams (but most of the times losing in a heartbreaking fashion). I dont care how and with what weapons s1mple can carry, kennyS did it in his own way and OP awp is just an excuse for people who cant take how well could he utilize it
2018-08-20 15:52
#47
k0nfig | 
Germany Trax_ 
Good AWPer, Great Rifler, Great Pistol player. I would say +1 Haters gonna hate him, he will fuck your GF sexviceGOD
2018-08-19 12:33
+1 when i said he is bad wtf
2018-08-19 19:52
+1 everything is good so maybe event top3 or top4 player atm ;)
2018-08-19 21:14
#52
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Sri Lanka khorkalba 
Device has been in the HLTV top 5 for three years in a row, and almost certainly will be there again this year. So while he hasn't ever managed to reach the high peaks of players like GTR, Flusha, Olof, and Coldzera, he's outlasting them all. How is that not consistent? Also, the point about him hitting only easy AWP shots is stupid. He was one of the most skilled riflers in the world before he even became an AWPer. Along with S1mple he's one of the few AWPers in the pro scene who would be relatively unaffected performance-wise if the AWP was removed from the game tomorrow.
2018-08-19 12:49
#56
k0nfig | 
Germany Trax_ 
+1 Best Hybrid Player in the World
2018-08-19 13:05
#127
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United States dev1cee 
+1
2018-08-20 23:02
#147
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Germany cuzican 
S1mple is a hybrid and about twice as good as him.
2018-08-21 02:21
S1mple is best cs go hybrid tho
2018-08-21 14:24
#164
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Germany cuzican 
Thats what i said
2018-08-22 06:09
Put him in a team which is not as coordonated and as tactical as astralis and all that shit. In a "superstar" team he would be the bottom fragger or the 2nd bottom fragger. Device is only good in the robotic environment of astralis. Yea now would you say "Yea astralis knows how to use him"but remember,device it is good because of his team not because of him. -agent Harold
2018-08-19 13:06
#60
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United States Jammin800k 
Device was amazing in 2016 when Astralis werent even that good they had group stage exits and a lot of tournaments where they only made it to quarters and device was by far the best player on that team. He was hard carrying even in losses and once they got gla1ve he was arguably the best player in the world. So your argument about him only being good in tactical lineups is false because they had karrigan who is notoriously loose in his leading style and only being good because his team is amazing is false because they were 5-8th in rankings for a large majority of that year.
2018-08-19 13:27
amazing hmm
2018-08-19 19:53
#92
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United States Jammin800k 
Yes absolutely amazing April to when they acquired gla1ve hltv.org/stats?startDate=2016-04-01&endD.. 2nd best player on LAN and obviously the Chinese teams do not play the same level of competition, it's mostly domestic. Argument destroyed
2018-08-19 20:51
in that time he was eco fragger and exit fragger dude.. seriously
2018-08-20 15:44
Any proof that he had high eco and exit kills in that time period? No, no proof because you're a sad baiter. Burden of proof is on you.
2018-08-20 20:07
#61
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
HMMMMMM device only plays his mechanical style becuse thats what his team needs if he would go to some team like mouz he would play much more loose and his skill would show more
2018-08-19 13:28
“His skill would show more” would show more exposure. He would be bottom-fragger most of the time in such a loose environment. Objectively, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-19 13:34
#65
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Iceland kick_cold_ffs 
check device faceit match history is he bottom fragging in any games? 60% winrate in fpl and pugs
2018-08-19 13:37
#66
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Austria HotSince95 
omg, i cant stand your virgin ass haters, u are so damn dumb. i cant admit that you are that stupid, 100% you are baiting, how can you say that device is not a top player lmao, when astralis were struggling he was the man who put the numbers and now when they are top1 standing strong above all he is still putting numbers are making impactful frags, he is playing the smartest cs of all them players out there. yeah sure his playstyle isn't flashy, but he is kicking ass and astralis are winning which is the most important. I have much respect for players like simple,NiKo etc who are making insane plays but at the end the discipline and the teamplay wins tournaments.. literally i am disgusted by all of the haters out here, no matter if u hate device, coldzera, simple,NiKo, Stewie2k or whatever, if u are that good why don't you go out there and show how it should be done? ffs
2018-08-19 13:52
#67
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Europe p1peb0mb 
by this year end he will be top 5 or even top 3 all time.as an awper he already is. kennyS.guardian,device,jw and fallen are top 5 awpers of all time
2018-08-19 13:58
nobody ever said he was top5 all time other than delusional astralis fanboys that are max 10y old
2018-08-19 17:29
IMO at this moment... top3 ? or top4?
2018-08-19 19:53
this thread is so stupid, it has to be a bait. calling device top 5 is a punch in the face of all real cs legends
2018-08-19 19:55
barely top20 csgo only
2018-08-19 19:56
#84
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia Chaoooss 
Imo he is consistent and do his job and its working but still I would not consider him as top5 player. For example there is like 3 or more better awpers rn. Someone will bring there stats but with playstyle of device and astralis almost every other awper would get his stats.... edit: +he is not able to carry when his team is playing bad
2018-08-19 20:15
That's just not true read #60 And it's also not true that any AWPer would have the same stats how can you make that assumption with no proof to back it up.
2018-08-20 01:10
Look his playstyle lmao literally every t1 awper would hit his shots. He is just holding angles all the time and whole team is playing around him. Nothing special I can tell u like 7 or 8 better players of all time than he is.
2018-08-20 11:56
I never said he was top 5 of all time because he isnt but if any AWPer could just take his playstyle and get a 1.3 rating then why dont they do it? Your logic is terrible and you have no proof that these AWPers could do what he does so consistently. His play is based off rotating at the right times and taking the best possible angles if any AWPer could be doing this they would.
2018-08-20 20:02
Oh why would they change him if they are winning? What I want to say that for example if Jugi was in his position and in team like astralis he would shine af. Of course I have no proof but his playstyle is simple af.
2018-08-20 21:12
But Device was able to put up amazing numbers even whe gla1ve wasnt part of the team and so they had a much different system
2018-08-20 21:20
And like I said if devices playstyle is so simple why doesn't every AWPer just do it Just hit the shots 4Head Just position perfectly 4Head
2018-08-20 21:23
Maybe cuz of astralis play style? They play around device all the time. edit: they make his life much ezier by their plays specially dupreeh and magisk
2018-08-20 22:29
Styko said in interviews that all of mouz played around Oskar. Obviously g2 does that for Kenny, faze has just as much talent and the team plays entirely around Niko and guardian as the stars, why dont they have the same impact? And you ignored the fact that in 2016 they didn't have the same playstyle but device still put up insane numbers.
2018-08-20 23:37
What? G2 didnt play around Kenny at all maybe now they started with new lineup but with old lineup they didnt play around Kenny at all. And Faze is not rly playing around Niko and Guardian everyone in team is making some plays and I never saw device carrying astralis when rest of the team had bad day lmao. He has no impact at all like for example niko or guardian have in Faze. Dont forget to bring his stats where his impact is higher lmao. Show me one game where device carried astralis when everyone of his m8ts played bad.
2018-08-21 13:17
Current g2 does that for Kenny and old envyus did that a lot until happy became selfish. Faze doesnt set up Niko and Guardian? You just have no knowledge of the scene. The people that "make plays" are doing it to make space for Niko and Guardian to close out rounds, you literally contradicted yourself in two sentences. His impact rating is higher than guardian and every other awper this year so you are again wrong.
2018-08-21 20:11
hltv.org/stats/players/7592/device?start.. Before they got gla1ve and were not top 5
2018-08-21 20:14
But ok we should end this conversation u have ur opinion about him and I have mine. I respect ur opinion too. Have a nice day! :D
2018-08-21 13:29
#85
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Denmark MSLTOP1 
i do think when astralis stop dominating his stats will go down a lot but with a player like s1mple it dosent seem to matter
2018-08-19 20:14
#87
ropz | 
Denmark SokScs 
Most consistent player in the world, always making sure that his team doesn't lose stupid rounds and he's always putting up a good fight against other good teams. (You can't find an event where he didn't get the EVP or MVP while his team won)
2018-08-19 20:17
#148
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Germany cuzican 
S1mple has been consistent for as long while putting up numbers this year device could only dream of.
2018-08-21 02:29
#151
ropz | 
Denmark SokScs 
Have I said that?
2018-08-21 13:35
#165
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Germany cuzican 
You said that device is the most consistent in the world. I told you that simple is as consistent while being twice as good.
2018-08-22 06:11
#166
ropz | 
Denmark SokScs 
Dev1ce is much more consistent than S1mple. S1mple is better when he's at his peak, but Dev1ce is always playing very well
2018-08-22 09:21
#168
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Germany cuzican 
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp.. Stop talking out of your arse lol, S1mple is much more consistent while putting up better numbers.
2018-08-22 16:00
#172
ropz | 
Denmark SokScs 
When did S1mple start playing against tier 1 teams? In fucking 2016... And just because you have better stats than someone then it doesn't mean that you're more consistent than them lmao
2018-08-22 16:16
#176
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Germany cuzican 
So what? Ever since S1mple has started playing he was more consistent than device. That's a fact. Another fact is that device isn't even a Top5 awper right now. He's playing in the best team in the world, any other awper would be able to succeed as much if not mroe in his position. And by the way, please explain to me what consistency is if it's not having consistentely good stats over the course of 3 years. Edit: S1mple played T1 teams from the very start pretty much.
2018-08-23 08:00
#90
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Brazil spaark1 
I don't know, but he's definetly a BORING player
2018-08-19 20:47
thats kinda true . he would suck in a team without firepower beside him
2018-08-19 20:48
#99
NAF | 
United States Jammin800k 
hltv.org/stats?startDate=2016-04-01&endD.. When astralis wasnt even top 5
2018-08-19 21:03
I want to see how he will perform if he does not have great system. Like s1mple did while playing for lesser teams.
2018-08-21 14:27
But they didnt have a great system? Karrigan was IGL and the loose style wasnt working they were ranked 7-8th for a majority of that
2018-08-21 20:17
#95
rain | 
Kyrgyzstan coldnezz 
Absolutely agree. He doesn't deserve top5
2018-08-19 20:53
Going by your statement does this mean Gla1ve is that good of an igl that he can have a gold nova awper and still dominate most tournament's?
2018-08-19 20:55
#100
gla1ve | 
France Telt 
Spectacular plays < Safety & efficiency. He's holding a line and getting the kill ? Well that's what the game is about. He plays like a robot, and just like in chess, robots usually make the best decisions. And by the way, before hating you'd better check your facts, dev1ce has probably been the most consistent player over a career in CS:GO history (that's why he's been on top of some top 20s)
2018-08-19 21:08
He doesn't deserve top 5 of all time because he is eco fragger lol
2018-08-20 15:46
#110
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Spain elskio 
not yet maybe top10, but he will be top5 soon
2018-08-20 15:50
#112
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Denmark Kjaerbyebye 
Top 3.
2018-08-20 16:34
#113
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Poland KasPro 
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-08-20 16:35
Top 10 yeah, top 5 no way
2018-08-20 16:43
0/8 after hltv ranking after this year, he is easily top3 of all time nomatter how much do you hate him
2018-08-20 16:44
best player on the best team, top frags almost every game dropping nearly 30. Ranked top 5 players in the world every year since 2015, incredible all around game and a major champion. Top 3 all time for sure.
2018-08-20 16:46
butttttt heeesssssss borrrrrrininiginnginging to watchhhhhhhh and that means everythihnggggggggggg
2018-08-20 22:37
Probably a bait, but I agree Device overrated and boring af
2018-08-20 23:49
such a bad bait its unreal how you hooked half the website onto this retarded thread lmao
2018-08-21 01:46
0/8 bait but hes been a top 5 player every year and top 3 many times why wouldnt he be top 5 of all time? what 5 players are better?
2018-08-21 01:47
#143
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Brazil bandicoot 
pretty sure nobody does
2018-08-21 01:47
you could definitely make a case for it
2018-08-21 01:50
maybe top10 awper but I prefer sunde
2018-08-21 01:58
Same with football. Ronaldo only scores easy goals, but people still call him the greatest of all time.
2018-08-21 02:05
Sixer is the best
2018-08-21 15:06
nah
2018-08-21 20:17
top 5 overrated
2018-08-22 09:29
#171
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Europe vasseldomau 
Maybe Coldzera, Forest, Device, Olofmeister and Fallen (or Flusha).
2018-08-22 16:02
Maybe top 15. People only remember him when he plays like a god, but forget this only happens once a year. Inconsistent af
2018-08-22 16:24
Pure eco fragger
2018-08-22 16:23
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