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2015 NiP Or 2018 Astralis ?
India afulwani 
2015 NiP Or 2018 Astralis ? which one was best??
2018-08-20 14:40
#1
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Ethiopia FootLong 
NiP
2018-08-20 14:41
#103
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Europe vasseldomau 
ASTRALIS, OF COURSE. TODAY WE HAVE A WORLD SCENE THAT A LOT BETTER AND MORE PLAYERS. Everything is getting better in CS GO.
2018-08-20 19:27
87/0 its all
2018-08-20 19:33
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
"2015 NiP"
2018-08-20 22:37
87/ is 2013/14 nip lol
2018-08-20 22:44
newfag? it was 2012/2013
2018-08-20 22:58
#209
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United Kingdom h4mm 
Lmao flag checks out
2018-08-21 08:11
Imperial fan lul UK cs LUL
2018-08-21 08:49
#221
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United Kingdom h4mm 
Truth hurts
2018-08-21 08:51
#222
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United Kingdom h4mm 
FOR UUU HAHAH
2018-08-21 08:51
Probably the worst roast ever
2018-08-21 08:55
#242
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United Kingdom h4mm 
Imperial fan lul UK cs LUL totally not the most overused roast
2018-08-21 13:45
and? you roast sucks anyway
2018-08-21 20:47
+1
2018-08-20 22:36
#205
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Japan hirohito 
xd dead game
2018-08-21 02:30
#210
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United Kingdom h4mm 
+1
2018-08-21 08:11
#2
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Sweden Akoulad 
NiP has always been a Garbage team.
2018-08-20 14:41
0/8
2018-08-20 16:34
#52
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Hungary Faze_UPp 
esport newfag spotted
2018-08-20 16:52
0/8
2018-08-20 16:57
#62
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Romania Snoui21 
Expected from a brain dead fnatic fan.
2018-08-20 17:05
new fag 0/8
2018-08-20 18:29
Expected from a guy who started playing cs in 2018.
2018-08-20 18:30
#89
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Sweden Akoulad 
I started playing 10 years ago, that's how I know they've always been a garbage team.
2018-08-20 18:30
#94
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Lithuania greN1337 
NiP 2012-2015 were insane, wtf you talking about 87-0 <3
2018-08-20 18:38
2015 NIP were insane at choking
2018-08-20 22:26
Expected from a fnatic fan :D Not your fault bro.
2018-08-20 20:25
especially when they went 87-0
2018-08-20 18:37
#106
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Sweden ConaN007 
0/8
2018-08-20 19:27
#113
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Lithuania iNs6 
+1
2018-08-20 19:59
#121
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Lithuania pztive 
disgusting
2018-08-20 21:36
#122
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United Kingdom h4mm 
Tf
2018-08-20 21:42
#186
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Lithuania iNs6 
pac
2018-08-20 23:06
#128
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
0/8
2018-08-20 21:53
>being fnatic fan >saying that nip team is trash >fnatic acquired 2 players who was too bad to play for nip lmao btw b8 6/8, lots of replies.
2018-08-20 21:56
+1
2018-08-21 02:26
clearly not always, but since late 2014 i are agree
2018-08-21 13:26
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Sweden swediztann3 
Nip wasnt top 1 2015
2018-08-20 14:59
Yeah op is newfag
2018-08-20 18:00
astralis/tsm was even better in 2015. this post is dumb
2018-08-20 20:11
no ,tsm were the best at beating fnatic and that's it ,nip dominated tsm all the way
2018-08-20 22:55
#177
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Turkey Balbaros 
nip always eliminated tsm tho i'd say they were equal, but nip was kinda inconsistent and choked against fnatic. dignitas/tsm weren't that good either though, they were called chokenitas perhaps rightfully so
2018-08-20 22:59
NiP 2015?? What about Fnatic 2015??
2018-08-20 15:00
trash
2018-08-20 16:21
#37
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United States BLNDSPT 
lmfao yea right
2018-08-20 16:32
trash like india
2018-08-20 16:57
#219
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Europe mAy_an_K 
Yes brother
2018-08-21 08:47
fan of pashabiceps haHAA
2018-08-20 17:43
#104
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Malaysia byaIi 
pasha was beast
2018-08-20 19:27
#5
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Germany Dayjay 
BIG 2018 > everyone
2018-08-20 15:01
#41
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Germany dzynK 
A lucky fluke in 2018 lul And abusing Jump Bug in 2017 lul
2018-08-20 16:39
#43
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Germany Dayjay 
tell me about Liechtenstein CS scene
2018-08-20 16:44
#44
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Germany dzynK 
Nt im from Germany :) Lets talk about your Skill and mine?
2018-08-20 16:45
#46
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Germany Dayjay 
Big gewinnt das nächste Major, ist ja wohl mal klar.
2018-08-20 16:45
#47
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Germany dzynK 
Mibr macht das Ding :) Big hat aber gute Chancen wenn sie die Performance beibehalten
2018-08-20 16:46
naise googal translaid my frend
2018-08-20 16:58
#60
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Poland malekkkk 
reported
2018-08-20 16:59
mibr hahahahaha
2018-08-20 18:28
#96
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Germany Finerax 
Mibr in 2018 LUL
2018-08-20 19:13
#110
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United States ShawnM 
Mibr in any year. LUL
2018-08-20 19:32
#170
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United States Baitor 
MIBR AHAHHHAHA
2018-08-20 22:50
#131
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United States MarkerTassel 
German cs omegalul!
2018-08-20 21:55
#6
Uruguay strop 
fnatic 2015
2018-08-20 15:01
#7
Australia pacre 
astralis!
2018-08-20 15:05
Fnatic 2015 < Astralis 2018 Astralis are bringing a whole new change to the meta with them and are all around a near perfect team at the moment. NiP could’ve only claimed an era between 2012-2014 and even then it’s barely their era.
2018-08-20 15:06
#9
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Germany Brazzen 
87-0 how can this be just barely an era???
2018-08-20 15:08
It was incredibly short lived despite being 87-0. VeryGames and Fnatic were the only real contenders at the time of this era and it had to go to one of them, NiP simply achieved a bit more. If NiP had an 87-0 now then I’d count it as an era undoubtedly but you need to consider circumstances xd
2018-08-20 15:10
the circumstances are: nip won 87 maps in a row at lan, dominated everything until cologne then took a 2 months break and dominated everything except for ldlc till katowice 2015 where fnatic won a final they claimed that they probably should have lost. that's it, nothing more, nothing else also, the teams in nip era? best fnatic, best french team, best polish team in their prime, tsm (same players), c9, ibp, hr, na'vi. stop being deluded, they had lots of competition, it's only that they were in their prime so the others had no chance. why do you think gtr is worse than f0rest now? he dropped of, f0rest is still at the same level. if gtr didn't drop off, nip would still be dominating, sadly katowice was pretty much his last godlike event
2018-08-20 15:17
Yeesh you are getting touchy, I’m a big NiP fan too you know, I just try not to let fanboy goggles decide everything. I acknowledged that that time WAS their era, I just think it could’ve been VeryGame’s era if things happened a little differently. It was close as hell between those two but generally NiP were more dominating.
2018-08-20 15:24
so if verygames could be better than nip, they could have an era? thanks, that's how eras work. also no, verygames was not even close to nip, the major proved it. they only won twice against nip in important games and then when they had to win for it to mean anything, they lost. then they never passed the group stages again at majors
2018-08-20 15:37
God you are not making sense
2018-08-20 16:37
I can translate for you. NiP had an era but they were not as far apart from #2 as Astralis.
2018-08-20 16:45
Ty bro
2018-08-20 17:07
Congratz! You are the most delusional NiP fanboy on HLTV!!!
2018-08-20 18:32
yeah, germany won ww2 too, right? go back to your cave fatty. watch some porn, do not disturb your boss, i may fire you and put you back in sewers. facts>your stupid opinions
2018-08-20 19:21
there is almost as much wrong in this reply as in #17
2018-08-20 19:23
facts>your stupid opinions, my slave. that's the difference between us, you are deluded living in your internet world, watching porn an masturbating when your mom is not home, while i live in the real world. fatty
2018-08-20 19:27
Just because your delusional brain makes you think that your stupid opinions are facts it doesnt mean that they are actually facts. You should seek some help if you believe in any of the things you said in #17, #97 and #105 (well except for the ww2 part). You must be ill to actually believe that.
2018-08-20 19:31
"just because nip dominated astralis in 2014 doesn't mean shit omg i am so dumb and i am a fat little kid" nt
2018-08-20 20:09
you make no sense at all go seek help
2018-08-20 20:11
your brain is so damaged i will simply let you be silver
2018-08-20 22:37
What he said ^^
2018-08-20 19:54
Technically astralis doesnt have too many contenders nowadays either. What.. Like maybe faze and mouz
2018-08-20 19:09
it doesn't work like that. if they weren't that good, everyone would beat them. they peak, just like nip did. every team has good opponents, but that's how eras are formed, by over-shadowing the opposition
2018-08-20 19:22
#151
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
Short lived 87-0 was 9 months ahahaha Era was 13 months
2018-08-20 22:25
era was till katowice 2015. if we talk about 5 roster it's still 24 months (till cologne)
2018-08-20 22:39
#165
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
No it wasn't. Because LDLC,Fnatic took over by then.
2018-08-20 22:44
not really hltv.org/stats/teams/events/4411/NiP?sta.. 2 bad events hltv.org/stats/teams/events/4411/NiP?sta.. 1 bad event until faceit where their era stopped. 2nd place is still an era when you beat fnatic and ldlc and dominate both major finals you lost. like it or not nip was the best team if we take all the results of ldlc and fnatic nip-2nd at every event except for that shit bo1 event that doesn't matter as much and first place at asus rog which doesn't matter that much too fnatic-won a major, lost at the other one in quarters (by winning tho), lost at mlg (to nip) ldlc-lost at a major (to nip), won a major they didn't deserve to win (objectively), first at mlg nip was the best team till katowice, 3 bad events in 1 year is ok for an era, otherwise fnatic wouldn't have an era too cuz they lost some events
2018-08-20 23:04
Dominating for 87 matches straight = "Barely an era"
2018-08-20 15:12
They lost 2 of the 3 majors that should’ve been there’s and was constantly bested by VeryGames, sure you can count the short lived 87-0 as an era but it doesn’t stack up to the fnatic or even the SK era
2018-08-20 15:18
Ahahahahaha do you seriously believe SK had an era?
2018-08-20 15:27
Sk had definitely an era
2018-08-20 16:22
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Sweden Bangs 
Yep...in 2003, nothing after that
2018-08-20 17:03
Coldzao defined CS
2018-08-21 00:54
#202
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Sweden Bangs 
if you come from SA and started watching in 2016. for the rest of the world, not so much
2018-08-21 02:04
2 times player of the year, built the whole pro scene in BR with FalleN together, still the most contributive player on MiBR (and previously on SK)
2018-08-21 02:07
#243
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Sweden Bangs 
>2 times player of the year So was gtr > built the whole pro scene in BR with FalleN together FalleN built the BR scene way before he even knew cold. If you want to give anyone credit except FalleN then its fer, not cold >still the most contributive player on MiBR (and previously on SK) And thats relevant because....?
2018-08-21 18:08
Fallen and cold has won more cs tournaments than anyone else.
2018-08-21 09:54
Xizt has won the most tournaments
2018-08-21 22:02
+1
2018-08-21 08:41
#70
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Sweden Bangs 
>was constantly bested by VeryGames Literally took them over a year to actually beat nip on LAN but ok
2018-08-20 17:10
Let me be more clear, was constantly bested by VeryGames in the matches that actually mattered.
2018-08-20 17:40
#78
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Sweden Bangs 
How where they constantly bested in the matches that "actually mattered" when it took VG over a year to best them in a match for the first time?
2018-08-20 17:57
Looking at it not just VeryGames/French teams in general it was Fnatic or V.p a lot too. Winning majors is extremely important to really cementing an era, they flopped at 4 of the majors, 3 of which they should’ve won. They were bested in a lot of matches where it really mattered in getting a title. Again if you want to say the 87-0 is an era in itself fine, I can agree but it does t stack up to the other eras of CS which people compare it too. I get slack from so many people saying NiP had any era like a month ago, but now suddenly everyone is saying I’m not giving them enough credot by pointing the flaws out?
2018-08-20 18:20
#156
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
How is finals a flop? :/
2018-08-20 22:31
I mean in the sense when it really mattered they ended up losing the matches and not being able to really secure their spot on top in the major tournaments when it counted, they did make it to 5 of those finals though so I can sure as hell say they were a top team it just feels like they fell short so many times. I worded a lot of what I said earlier very poorly so sorry for that. NiP had their era of CS dominance, but I just feel like it doesn't stack up to the other eras in the same way. Fnatic won their majors and cemented over the scene in its most competetive state since this next coming major that it was the absolute best team in the world and a perfect squad. SK's era of dominance was over a less competetive but still developed scene of CS and they won their back to back major to prove they were the best for their times. I love NiP and I am hella active in their discord and stuff but it just doesn't stack up as much as fnatic or SK's did. I was trying to reason and say why I think it wasn't as stacked compared to the other 2 eras and I really really flopped on it,
2018-08-20 22:34
#164
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
SK had no era. Fnatic's era I agree 100% tho NiP still won a major, on the backend of their era. Still made the finals twice. (Before changes), they still won like 11 events in a row, 87-0. They had a damn fine era.
2018-08-20 22:43
If you are going to give NiP an era than SK deserve an era. Why would you argue SK has no era? Please I'm interested.
2018-08-20 22:44
#168
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
They won 3 events...
2018-08-20 22:45
They won 2 majors back to back along with multiple events. They won 9 events and counting their wins they had 23 top 4 finishes in big events. If you aren't going to call that an era than idk what you will call an era. SK had more of a solid era than NiP did in terms of achieving things.
2018-08-20 22:52
#174
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
They won THREE events. 2017 was another year, after Astralis domination and VP being top 2 in late 2016/early 2017. Also they won like 5 in a row? Na'Vi just won 3 in a row and made a semi final, where era?
2018-08-20 22:53
Counting through HLTV's big events tab. MLG Columbus, ESL Pro League Season 3 Finals, ESL One Cologne 2016, IEM Sydney 2017, ECS Season 3 Finals, ESL One Cologne 2017, EPICENTER 2017, Blast Pro Series Copenhagen 2017, ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals. That is 9 wins from Luminosity/SK from large tournaments. IEM Katowice 2016, ECS Season 1 Finals, ESL One New York 2016, EPICENTERL Moscow, Eleague Season 2, ESL Pro League Season 4 finals, IEM Oakland 2016, ECS Season 2 Finals, Eleague Major 2017, Dreamhack Masters Las Vegas 2017, ESL PRo League Season 5 Finals, ESL One New York 2017, IEM Oakland 2017 These are all 2-4 placings from those events. Please back up your claims with facts. Na'Vi haven't won a major yet, they haven't won enough events and placed high enough yet, to claim themselves an era.
2018-08-20 22:59
#180
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
I said in 2016 they won 3 events. Then came a 10 month break before there next significant win... Where is the Era? Top 4's don't matter if you don't win if you claim an era.
2018-08-20 23:00
Then NiP can't claim an era past their initial stint which is what everyone is claiming they're having atm which I was bloody arguing against. I'm done arguing with you for now since you are letting fanboy goggles and dislike of a team cloud your opinion. I don't particularly like Luminosity/SK but I at least acknowledge their achievments
2018-08-20 23:05
#187
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
I can't accept 3 tournament wins being an era followed by 5 wins a year later.
2018-08-20 23:20
You have him perfectly fine arguementds. If you count 2016, they only won three events. If you count 2017, they won many event but no majors that you appearantly "need" to cement an era. Not to mentioned they lost so many tournies in the winter/spring 2017
2018-08-21 08:44
#245
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
Exactly :/ Fnatic & NiP dominated, SK didn't
2018-08-21 20:09
#200
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Sweden Bangs 
>Looking at it not just VeryGames/French teams in general it was Fnatic or V.p a lot too. VP was the only threat nip had until late 2013. VG and fnatic didnt beat nip on LAN until october and november respectively. >Winning majors is extremely important to really cementing an era, they flopped at 4 of the majors, 3 of which they should’ve won. They were bested in a lot of matches where it really mattered in getting a title. They should've won dhw13, ill give you that. kato14 maybe they should've won but vp were pretty big favourites. Everyone expected ldlc v fnatic in grand finals at dhw14 so i dont agree with they "should've" won that since ldlc and fnatic were the 2 best teams at the time + pretty bold to claim they flopped when they still made it to 5 straight finals, a record no team will tie or break. >Again if you want to say the 87-0 is an era in itself fine, I can agree but it does t stack up to the other eras of CS which people compare it too They were still hands down the best team in the world for the majority of the year and still won most events so their era didnt end with the streak + Fnatic and nip are the only teams with an undisputed era. The only team you can make an argument for is SK but thats it. VG didnt have an era, VP didnt have an era, ldlc/nV didnt have an era and astralis cant claim an era yet so not sure what "other eras" you're talking about.
2018-08-21 02:02
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Czech Republic Rewask 
Astralis may have changed the meta, but the things that fnatic was doing forced Valve to changed to whole game. Astralis cleverly use nades and have good tactics, but it's nothing compared to things from fnatic in their prime
2018-08-20 15:12
That is fair, they did make a lot of things like that come into light for Valve to fix, but I think Astralis will have a more lasting impact on the game in how they are changing it. Plus I simply think Astralis has better team play and raw skill mostly.
2018-08-20 15:20
fnatic 2015 was the most skilled lineup in cs history
2018-08-20 15:24
+1
2018-08-20 15:27
#27
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Czech Republic Rewask 
+1
2018-08-20 15:28
#65
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
+1
2018-08-20 17:06
Again, raw fragging power and skill I have to agree. Raw fragging power and skill has been bested by Astralis before with how they play the game though, if you put that Fnatic lineup versus Astralis now I think it’d be close but Astralis would win over them.
2018-08-20 17:41
No for one reason pronax is terrible i would say kennys nv 2015 is the most skilled lineup ever
2018-08-20 18:27
#188
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
The Dennis Fnatic I'd argue for that.
2018-08-20 23:32
#228
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Finland T3ME_ 
Nah NiP 87-0 2012-2014 . 2015 they did fine won tournaments . Ovr nip is best team in history of csgo
2018-08-21 09:12
#28
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Czech Republic Rewask 
We can't say how much impact this Astralis style is going to have on the game yet. Also Astralis has the better raw skill than fnatic 2015? I hope you're joking
2018-08-20 15:29
Perhaps not raw skill that matched Olof or Flusha, but lots of raw skill nonetheless and I’d stand by the teamplay being a lot better in Astralis. Fnatic 2015 was the perfect team in terms of the fragging power they had and the way they played but I simply think Astralis from now is a better team overall with the teamwork and strats.
2018-08-20 15:38
#11
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Czech Republic Rewask 
NiP 2015? If you mean NiP 2012-2014 than definitely NiP>Astralis
2018-08-20 15:10
GoD_RiGhT and Fr0p poggers
2018-08-20 15:11
JW 2014
2018-08-20 15:12
#16
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Europe tim69 
NiP 2014>Astralis Fnatic 2015-2016>Astralis
2018-08-20 15:21
#20
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Mongolia AfRiCaNnIgErO 
fnatic
2018-08-20 15:23
#23
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Sweden aer1aL 
I think you meant Fnatic 2015.
2018-08-20 15:25
#25
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Chile hyveur 
nip won 0 tournaments rofl
2018-08-20 15:27
ASUS ROG they win vs Titan
2018-08-20 16:50
do you mean 2013 nip?
2018-08-20 15:33
13-15
2018-08-20 16:17
what the hell nip wasnt good in 2015
2018-08-20 16:41
NIP in 2015:0 relevant wins
2018-08-20 15:34
fnatic 2015 rest
2018-08-20 16:23
GoD_RiGhT and Fr0p poggers
2018-08-20 16:38
nobody was playing the game when NiP was dominant.
2018-08-20 16:47
nt 1uke
2018-08-20 16:51
#229
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Finland T3ME_ 
NiP best team history of csgo Yeah we can say now 2015 scene was not so competitive as now when fnatic was beast Yeah 2016-2017 was not so competitivr as now when sk/lg was best team in the world at the time NOW Sk/lg/mibr and fnatic are slumps Even ENCE have won more tournaments than SK/MIBR this year
2018-08-21 09:16
0/8, nip were already starting to be shit at that time
2018-08-20 16:52
#53
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Poland vaffell30 
NIP 0 1st place on 2k15 u compare them to the best ? lmao nip it was good at 2k14
2018-08-20 16:55
ASUS ROG 1
2018-08-20 17:13
#119
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Poland vaffell30 
It's a low tier tournament, nip he was good at 2014 just like vp, only nip ended faster than Vp
2018-08-20 21:31
Shit bait but astralis is better than fnatic 2015
2018-08-20 16:57
Fnatic 2015 > Astralis 2018 > Nip 2015 Fnatic was more dominant back then by far
2018-08-20 16:58
#66
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
+1
2018-08-20 17:06
#59
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Faroe Islands memento_1 
nip always been shit.
2018-08-20 16:58
#63
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Turkey Alpyy 
Astralis 2018 for sure. And probably they gonna win this major too.
2018-08-20 17:05
Dont jinx
2018-08-20 17:49
Astralis
2018-08-20 17:05
#67
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Sweden GATER 
May be fnatic 2015? fnatic 2015 >>>>>>>> nip 2015 lol
2018-08-20 17:07
Nip 2015, atm the csgo competitive scene doesnt allow teams to have such a big supperiority against every other team.
2018-08-20 17:09
I don't think nip won any events in 2015 tho
2018-08-20 17:50
#79
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Ukraine treeex 
nip 2012-2013
2018-08-20 17:58
This astralis is more comparable to 2015 fnatic in terms of dominance. Nip record is legendary status
2018-08-20 17:59
#83
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North America AlanSmith 
nip 2013
2018-08-20 18:22
don't look back, you're not going that way
2018-08-20 18:30
You can compare Astralis 2018 with fnatic 2015. NiP 87-0 era and making 5 major finals (5 I guess, not sure) is something out of this world.
2018-08-20 18:32
#160
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
he said 2015 NiP
2018-08-20 22:37
Please read again bro. I said do not compare it with 2015 NiP. Better to compare it with fnatic 2015.
2018-08-20 23:03
#189
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Oh right. Either way 2013 NiP aren’t really comparable as the field of competition was a lot lower. They were more dominant in comparison to other teams tho
2018-08-20 23:34
#192
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Europe p1peb0mb 
astralis won 4 events in 4 months. fnatic with dennis before mlg major won 6 events in 5 months.this is not including the time when fnatic won 2 majors. astralis 2018 is overrated.the need to do a fuck ton more to be compared to fnatic 2015.
2018-08-20 23:42
2015-2016 Fnatic
2018-08-20 18:34
pasha's team every year was best team
2018-08-20 19:24
#101
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Sweden pontus767 
2015 NiP was trash... 2013 Nip another story
2018-08-20 19:26
#102
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Sweden carlssonfja 
2015 fnatic
2018-08-20 19:26
#107
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Norway JorgyZ 
Nip would maybe get 16-0'ed Astralis is the best team that has ever existed in cs go, no other team would have had a chance to beat them
2018-08-20 19:29
#125
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CIS ZILTOID 
4 out of the 5 asstralis players have already been playing during NIP’s dominant period yet they were not even in the same ballpark with them, they’re pretty good nowadays so they deserve some credit
2018-08-20 21:59
#136
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United States ascendaNt_88 
0/8 no one can possibly be this dumb
2018-08-20 22:01
#138
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CIS ZILTOID 
yet you still managed to delve into the deepest depths of stupidity with your irrelevant comment, gj
2018-08-20 22:06
#155
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Norway JorgyZ 
5 YEARS AGO DUDE
2018-08-20 22:30
#246
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CIS ZILTOID 
yep, it’s preposterous how long it took them to learn counter strike, when NIP players mastered it in a couple of months haha
2018-08-21 20:24
#248
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Norway JorgyZ 
Youre delusional if you think nip at that time could beat this astralis
2018-08-21 21:54
#250
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CIS ZILTOID 
comparisons like these make no sense and are made by children anyway
2018-08-21 23:59
2018 astralis >>>>> 2015 NIP if you wanna bring in a real comparison, it's 2013-14 nip vs astralis. In that case 13'-14' nip > '18 astralis
2018-08-20 19:30
2012-2014 > 2018 astralis
2018-08-20 21:35
Yea
2018-08-21 13:21
#117
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Brazil zSkiies 
SK 17 >>> Fnatic 2015 >>> the rest
2018-08-20 20:22
SK not >>> anyone
2018-08-20 21:43
cry is free baitzera
2018-08-20 21:43
#212
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United Kingdom h4mm 
Ur the one crying LOL
2018-08-21 08:13
#244
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Sweden Bangs 
Actual era (fnatic15) >>>> non era (SK)* ftfy
2018-08-21 18:53
#126
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
2018 Astralis. I like NiP but we are not living in the past.... it is the present that counts and currently stats show that Astralis is above all other teams.
2018-08-20 21:49
CLoud 9 on ELEAGUE Major > everything
2018-08-20 21:52
#129
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
it must be "2014 NiP Or 2018 Astralis ?"
2018-08-20 21:53
#132
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United States ascendaNt_88 
NiP is a joke. Constantly overrated by the community because of what they did against today's tier3 competition.
2018-08-20 21:58
#133
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Finland BOMBDOGE 
nip was semi bad 2015
2018-08-20 21:58
what do you mean was
2018-08-20 21:58
obv Astralis 2018 would 16-0 NIP 2015
2018-08-20 21:59
#137
LEGIJA | 
Serbia MoOoN 
nip by far dumb question
2018-08-20 22:02
#158
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
2015 NiP? That's just not right...
2018-08-20 22:36
Astralis ofc. NiP weren't so good in 2015
2018-08-20 22:13
fnatic 2015 > SK (lumi) 2016 > Astralis 2018 > EnVy 2015 > NiP whenever
2018-08-20 22:15
ENVYUS never > NIP nt
2018-08-20 22:16
imo they were
2018-08-20 22:17
nice try they beat NiP 2 times on csgostarladder with shox and i dont remember another event. and thats it
2018-08-20 22:17
I am talking about overall team's strength not about matches between EnVy and NiP
2018-08-20 22:19
ok Nip 2012-2014 > everyone
2018-08-20 22:19
maybe
2018-08-20 22:20
but i not live in the past so i dont care =DDDDD
2018-08-20 22:20
#191
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Europe p1peb0mb 
astralis 2018 is overrated. fnatic with dennis during november 2015 to march 2016 = 2008 astralis. i would pick nip 2013,sk 2017 over them.
2018-08-20 23:39
Bîğ.navi FaZe many teams in 2018 is overated
2018-08-21 02:43
#227
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Europe p1peb0mb 
Astralis won 4 events & navi won 3 events in 2018. Some fans are saying Astralis 2018 = Fnatic 2015. You can see who is overrated when you have consider the fact that fnatic won 10 events in 2015,Sk won 8 events in 2017, NiP won 10 events in 2013. No one is saying Navi or Faze or BIG having an era.
2018-08-21 09:04
#141
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Portugal Jkzzz 
SK 2016/2017 OR astralis 2018???
2018-08-20 22:16
#145
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North America SwifterGames 
NIP Because I despise Astralis
2018-08-20 22:18
#150
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United States ascendaNt_88 
flair checks oot
2018-08-20 22:23
Drunk typing
2018-08-20 22:27
#173
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United States ascendaNt_88 
canada, man
2018-08-20 22:53
Lol
2018-08-20 22:54
#194
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North America SwifterGames 
American but Still likes astralis smh
2018-08-21 00:27
#208
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United States ascendaNt_88 
<3
2018-08-21 07:59
Fnc era
2018-08-20 22:26
#169
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United States Baitor 
NIP in 2015? i arent think that
2018-08-20 22:49
#172
f0rest | 
Macedonia ydjoon 
lul astralis not even that good, its just that other teams are regressing as a team. Theres only Faze thats is a true contender.. The rest are still figuring their identity. Astralis are fluke.
2018-08-20 22:52
Lmao NIP 2015>Astralis?? Fnatic 2015>Astralis 2018>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NIP 2015
2018-08-20 23:00
#185
Thorin | 
Sweden ezwuo 
NiP were never the best team in 2015 how is this even comparable
2018-08-20 23:05
2015 nip wasnt even good??
2018-08-20 23:36
are u fucking kidding me bro? lmao
2018-08-20 23:51
2014 VP
2018-08-21 00:30
2015 nip hahahahaha 2015 was fnatic's most dominant year, they let nip look like shit tbh. nip was representing strength in 2013/14 when cs pro scene began to grow. astralis is an other caliber. they are tactically on another level. when it comes to pure dominance they might not outstand or shine as much as nip or fnatic did back in the old days. but astralis is definitely closely up to it. they are still not my personal favorites to win the faceit major, because the cs scene is stacked with extremely good teams nowadays, just as navi, faze, mouz, fnatic or liquid. even mibr could surprise after a long downtime.
2018-08-21 00:35
u mean 2015 fnatic
2018-08-21 00:38
#198
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Australia CaZeR01 
Astralis for sure, coz the skill ceiling is 5 times higher than it was in 2015, and if you are gunna compare it would be better to compare with 2015 fnatic, but ast are still better now
2018-08-21 00:46
#211
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United Kingdom h4mm 
+1
2018-08-21 08:13
2012/2013/2014 NiP
2018-08-21 02:04
#215
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Australia CaZeR01 
Ast still better
2018-08-21 08:29
Newfag
2018-08-21 08:55
#226
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Australia CaZeR01 
Lol? Dude the skill ceiling back then was no where near what it is today
2018-08-21 08:56
LoL
2018-08-21 09:43
Go back play My little pony
2018-08-21 12:33
#236
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Australia CaZeR01 
I will, and i will enjoy it ;)
2018-08-21 13:01
you mean 12 nip i assume or 15 fnatic
2018-08-21 02:55
Astralis of course! Everyone knows that ;-)
2018-08-21 08:15
#214
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Russia ks6479 
ast ofc, bcs i start watching cs in 2016
2018-08-21 08:17
LUL ITS 2013/2014 NIP NOT 2015 LUL
2018-08-21 08:30
NiP
2018-08-21 08:54
#230
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North America xdlmaorofl 
2018 astralis > 2015 nip 2012/13 nip > 2018 astralis
2018-08-21 09:24
astralis
2018-08-21 09:52
#235
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
NiP 2015? There were not the best team in 2015 and to this day resides as the slump for NiP as they had no shining examples in 2015. Why compare one team who is the best in the world today to a team that accomplished nothing ion 2015? Did you mean 2012/2013/2014? Hell, they were the best Swedish team in 2016? Not 2015, though... That was the fnatic era.
2018-08-21 12:36
LOL 2015 NiP was like a top 5-8 team what are you talking about fella, Fnatic era still better than any other era though
2018-08-21 13:23
#239
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Turkey Adigeee 
Astra who ?
2018-08-21 13:26
#241
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Norway EaZy_4_NiKo 
If youre talking about NiP with Fifflaren, the lineup that won the major, then NiP is better for sure. If not, Astralis. If youre talking of all time, Fnatic with pronax is the best team, there is no doubt about it.
2018-08-21 13:31
#251
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Portugal macpjoao 
+1 fnatic with pronax. Best ever for sure.
2018-08-22 00:02
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