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TOP 15 SWEDISH PLAYERS
KRIMZ | 
Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). 1. krimz/olofmeister 2. olofmeister/krimz 3. flusha 4. forest 5. jw 6. dennis 7. lekro 8. twist/rez 9. twist/rez 10. draken 11. get right 12. xizt (would be higher if he wasnt igl , great player but never really got a chance to prove himself so i cant put him higher) 13. friberg/pyth 14. friberg/pyth 15. maikelele top 5 = elite players 6-9 = great players 10-12 = good , but i think draken can become much, much better 13-15 = mediocre players
2018-08-20 15:48
#3
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Finland PostBack 
jw numba 1
2018-08-20 15:52
#7
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North America LedwigCS 
If this was 2012-2015 GTR would be near that #1 spot sad He has really great game sense and spray and stuff but he’s dropped off after his sickness hit so hard RiP
2018-08-20 15:56
he has have the biggest performance drop in the history of esports. from the most dominant player of all time to an average player. i have hope for him in the new nip , i believe he will get back in form and his hard work will pay off. not like the old get right , but he will certainly be good enough to hold his team together.
2018-08-20 15:59
#26
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North America LedwigCS 
Certainly, his health is looking better than it has in a while which was a large reason for his drop in performance. I wish he’d go back to playing Entry and playing Aggressively instead of playing support too, it’d probably help the team out a bit, he doesn’t do well as support
2018-08-20 16:15
#75
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Chile StfanoLELE 
Wich kinda of problems he had?
2018-08-20 17:01
#81
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CIS ZILTOID 
apart from being in constant pain, nothing
2018-08-20 17:09
#99
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North America LedwigCS 
+1 He could barely move around and talk at Cologne it got so bad
2018-08-20 17:38
#8
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Sweden KarlXII 
Where is Golden? Golden is 100% top 10 in that list.
2018-08-20 15:56
#82
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Netherlands Wdym_wdym 
Golden is a bot, if he wasn't a good IGL he wouldn't even be a tier 2 player tbh
2018-08-20 17:10
#96
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Sweden KarlXII 
0/8. Golden is def not a "bot" lol. Why do i even argue with someone that uses the "HWML" logo.
2018-08-20 17:22
#107
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Netherlands Wdym_wdym 
0.98 Avg. Rating 54.9% Maps won 50.1% Maps with 1+ rating 7 Best 1+ rating streak
2018-08-20 18:28
#111
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Sweden KarlXII 
Hes a IGL mate. Hes also been "benched" for a while.
2018-08-20 19:59
#115
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Netherlands Wdym_wdym 
Being benched often has a reason.... Also that doesn't decrease or increase your stats. He's had a 0.78 rating in the past 3 months the only time he's had a decent rating over a longer period was on Fnatic academy when they were playing tier 4 teams on unknown tournaments. Also are you blind because i clearly wrote ''if he wasn't a good IGL'' because that's the only reason he's still in the scene.
2018-08-20 21:32
racist
2018-08-21 16:17
#176
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Netherlands Wdym_wdym 
Flag and name checks out
2018-08-21 16:18
#9
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Poland ULTRALUL 
1. Ahmed 2. Omar 3. Mohammed 4. Ali 5. Hassan and their friends are next on list
2018-08-20 15:56
Why u so mean? XD
2018-08-20 15:59
flag doesnt checks out
2018-08-20 15:59
u forgot about the players who knocked u out in back to back majors in 2015
2018-08-20 16:02
#18
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
wow funny and original
2018-08-20 16:02
#112
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Sweden KarlXII 
+3000
2018-08-20 20:00
flag checks out
2018-08-20 16:46
#97
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Sweden KarlXII 
Top 15 Polish players. 1. .... 2. .... 3. .... Oh thats right, Polish CS is shit.
2018-08-20 17:23
#100
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Poland ULTRALUL 
0/8 really
2018-08-20 17:49
Mad because muslims stole your toilet cleaning job? Don't worry you can clean mine for something like 10 kr/hour?
2018-08-20 22:49
#155
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Poland ULTRALUL 
Yes im mad af. So jealous.
2018-08-20 22:54
Libtard rekt
2018-08-21 00:00
Gtr 11th , lmfao do you even cs?
2018-08-20 15:58
yes he is cs gtr is utter garbage and his fans are fa**ots
2018-08-20 16:00
"based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account)."
2018-08-20 16:00
he was great before , but now he isnt.
2018-08-20 16:01
Tell then that this top is based on this year's or recent form . 0/8
2018-08-20 16:03
#1('13), #1('14), #11('15), #18('16) Tell me when REZ , Draken , lekr0 and dennis have something like this. I love dennis and rest of em but you've got to be baiting to not put GTR ATLEAST top 3.
2018-08-20 16:04
great , replying to my comment with his achievements....how nip fan brain works XD based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account). based on total skill , gamesense they possess (achievements are not taken into account).
2018-08-20 16:04
Then you are trolling even more , i've read that u typed it , right now i surely know you are baiting af, 0/8.
2018-08-20 16:05
Plus flair checks the fuck out :D , ik you are fan of Fnatic and you'll most of fnatic players(previous aswell) above NiP's , NT. 0/8
2018-08-20 16:10
nip fans get the wrong idea about fnatic fans. they think that fnatic fans are trying to prove that fnatic > nip just like u are trying to do the opposite , but in reality we are not because the whole world knows that fnatic is better than nip O M E G A L U L which brings me to #14
2018-08-20 16:32
rn ik fnatic is better , but what are we talking bout? You never said which time period is this list for , so you are wrong w/that top either way lmao.
2018-08-20 16:33
fucking dumbass nip fan still doesnt understand the point of this thread
2018-08-20 16:38
>Top 15 swedish players >twist/rez better than GTR choose one
2018-08-20 16:40
True. Gtr atleast 6 or 7. Dennis should be higher too imo. Very underrated talent
2018-08-20 20:03
#24
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
stopped reading at flusha
2018-08-20 16:11
#28
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Europe p1peb0mb 
flusha is the only sewdish player with big event mvp this year and he was also a top 7 player in the first 3 months of 2018
2018-08-20 16:27
#31
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Can you read achievements are not taken into account. Right now flusha is trash.
2018-08-20 16:29
#33
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Europe p1peb0mb 
based on total skill , gamesense they possess flusha has the best gamesense in all of swedish players lul.
2018-08-20 16:30
#36
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Well you don't really have any evidence his gamesense is the best in Sweden. f0rest, jw and dennis are far better aimers and their game sense isn't too bad either.
2018-08-20 16:33
#40
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Europe p1peb0mb 
flusha is not aimer like them but he have insane skill with any weapon. he good with all pistols,rifles,awps and smgs. he also have great game sense. only thing he lack is insane aim like niko or s1mple. he cover it with his gamesense
2018-08-20 16:35
#47
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
So thats why he has been bad for the last 4 months...
2018-08-20 16:38
#48
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Europe p1peb0mb 
but he was a top 7 player in the first 3 months of 2018 and has katowice mvp with 3 aces in the final. he is skilled and have gamesense just the form is bad.
2018-08-20 16:39
#53
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Well you could kinda apply that logic on to every player who has gotten mvps in the past and say they are only on bad form. Shouldn't get_right be top 1? He is only on bad form but insanely skilled...
2018-08-20 16:42
#56
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Europe p1peb0mb 
but i am taking the ratings of 2018 not 2014
2018-08-20 16:43
#64
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
flusha has been on good only on 2 tournaments this year thats it. Mean while someone like f0rest puts up numbers in almost every tournament in 2018.
2018-08-20 16:47
#70
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv.org/stats/players/events/29/f0rest?.. hltv.org/stats/players/events/3055/flush.. ya sure.best event for forest this year is the event where top teams at that time skipped that event to prepare for other events. while flusha played in all the best tournaments and had better ratings that f0rest.
2018-08-20 16:54
#76
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-10.. also flusha was one of the best players from october 2017 to march 2018 for a long 6 months. so stop saying he had 2 good tournaments.
2018-08-20 17:01
#77
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
You really should learn to read 2 good tournaments on THIS year, 2018. You said it yourself ratings from year 2018 so i don't get it what 2017 has to do with this. Also f0rest, dennis and lekro have a higher average rating from 2018 than flusha.
2018-08-20 17:04
#79
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. if you want average ratings,here you go. all of jw,f0rest,flekro has less rating than flusha and flusha has a big event mvp also don't bring dennis here,he have negative rating in 2018
2018-08-20 17:07
#84
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Well look #83 responded to myself accidentally XD
2018-08-20 17:12
#78
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
And you cant just say that flusha is good because he was good 4 months ago the truth is that he sucks currently and there is a few swedish players that should be before him on the list...
2018-08-20 17:06
#80
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-02.. last 6 months. still flusha > f0rest,lekro,dennis
2018-08-20 17:10
#83
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
By average rating i was talking about all matches not just big events but its good to see that hampus, brollan, twist and rez is above flusha on your nice list :)
2018-08-20 17:11
#85
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Europe p1peb0mb 
top players found are based on big event ratings. if you take small events and online games, they players like xantares and bntet would be in top 5 list.
2018-08-20 17:13
#86
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Yeah and hampus, brollan, twist and rez were above flusha on your list which is a fucking joke.
2018-08-20 17:14
#90
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Europe p1peb0mb 
in 2018 based on big event ratings,mvp/evp and number of matches played 1. krimz 2. olofmeister 3. flusha 4. rez 5. lekro 6. f0rest 7. jw 8. draken 9. hampus 10. brollan 11. twist 12. moddi 13. dennis 14. xizt 15. disco doplan this is my list
2018-08-20 17:15
#91
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
The fact that moddii, brollan and hampus are even on that list makes it dumb.
2018-08-20 17:17
#93
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Europe p1peb0mb 
moddi have same rating as dennis while also having more k/d and brollan and hampus have more than 0.10 rati g than xizt,or dennis
2018-08-20 17:18
#92
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Sure big events define a lot but you cant use that as the ONLY way to define how good a player is.
2018-08-20 17:18
#94
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Europe p1peb0mb 
i use big events ratings,evps/mvps and matches played. no one take small events or qualifiers like minor or online matches to find the top players
2018-08-20 17:20
#95
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Well then i guess u think nahtE is better than coldzera or nex is better than kennyS or rain. That is just so delusional. Not to be a dick but the original point of this thread was just players skill level not how good they have performed in tournaments 5 months ago or how many mvps they have.
2018-08-20 17:22
#108
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Europe p1peb0mb 
dude i told u to check the number of matches played. also check the mvp/evp along with rating. you are just taking ratings. flusha had more maps played, more rating , more mvp/evp than any of nip players except rez and fnatic players except krimz this year.
2018-08-20 18:52
I mean nahtE has 35 maps played at big events should be enough that i can compare him and yeah he has better rating than coldzera. So do you think he is better than coldzera or no?
2018-08-20 19:19
#114
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Europe p1peb0mb 
not just ratings are used to calculate top player. number of matches and evp/mvps are also used. thats why rpk and draken was not in last years top 20 list even though both of them had more ratings than half the top 20 players. hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-01.. on the case of nahte, cold has more ratings, more mvps and had played more matches than him.you are the person who takes only ratings and say one guy is better than the other.anyone can farm ratings in groups but they won't get evps. and these evp/mvp determine who will be on top 20. cold has 3 or more evps forsure and hence he is > nahte. hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. same goes for guardian,oskar's rating compared to nahte. he might have more rating but other have more evp/mvp and hence they will be above nahte but in last 3 months nahte played better than cold.hence he better in last 3 months
2018-08-20 21:21
Well they don't pick top20 just based on rating on big event ratings and mvps. For example REZ is 17th best on the ratings, he has 1 mvp award and he has 7 matches more in big events than oskar who is on the 16th place on top 20 list... Or for another example why hobbit is there but not flamie. They have the same rating in big events, flamie has more matches and they both have 0 mvps. hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. And do you seriously think fugly is better than dennis since they have almost the same amount of maps played and both have probably 0 mvps and evps. By your definitions fugly would be better. It would be really delusional to actually think he is better than dennis.
2018-08-20 22:03
#118
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Europe p1peb0mb 
rez has mvp in 2017 not in 2018 dude. oskar has mvp and evps in 2018 and 2017. same with flamie. where are you coming from?you are taking stats from 2017 for 2018 ranking? also evps has also values. kennyS had 4 mvps and fallen had 2 inlast year but device had around 10+ evps and 0 mvp and thats why he was rated above both kennyS and fallen last year.
2018-08-20 22:07
I was literally talking about 2017 top 20 players list. The very same top 20 list that you said draken and rpk didn't made in......
2018-08-20 22:09
#122
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv.org/stats/players/9278/REZ?startDat.. rez rating was below oskar dude.check it
2018-08-20 22:10
Didn't say his rating was above oskar but his rating was very well in top20 players
2018-08-20 22:12
#131
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Europe p1peb0mb 
and thats why i said, others thing like maps and evp/mvp matter along with ratings. ratings can be farmed by playing well in groups.
2018-08-20 22:16
REZ has more maps than oskar in 2017. Same amount of mvps with oskar in 2017 and we cannot check the evps because you cant find them all from anywhere...
2018-08-20 22:18
#135
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Europe p1peb0mb 
oskar and rez have sqame number of mvp while oskar had 4 more evps
2018-08-20 22:19
You cant know that for sure since you dont know how many evps REZ had. maybe he had 10evps. You dont know that
2018-08-20 22:20
#119
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Europe p1peb0mb 
static.hltv.org/images/galleries/1693-fu.. oskar had 1 mvp + 3 evps in 2017. rez no where near him
2018-08-20 22:09
How do you know how many evps REZ had because there is evp list no where to be found. If you can find one please link it to me by all means.
2018-08-20 22:10
And the key word here is some of them... If only you could find them all so we could actually compare the players by EVP awards..
2018-08-20 22:13
#128
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Europe p1peb0mb 
trust me rez has 0 mvp and evp this year. to get evp his team needs semi or atlest quarter and the player should have high rating. rez has only 1 mvp last year and thats it.just like tarik
2018-08-20 22:15
But i am talking about 2017 evps.
2018-08-20 22:16
#132
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Europe p1peb0mb 
2017 evps are hard to get because they were only published on hltv twitter. they started publishing in hltv from boston major.
2018-08-20 22:17
thats why u cant compare players by evps in 2017
2018-08-20 22:19
#137
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv compared and gave us ranking dude.................
2018-08-20 22:20
#126
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Europe p1peb0mb 
but he had only 1 mvp while others had more stats and evp/mvps
2018-08-20 22:13
olof had 0 mvps and his stats were like much worse than REZ's stats.
2018-08-20 22:15
#87
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Europe p1peb0mb 
just check how many matches they played dude?only player that has claim over flusha is rez but he has no mvp/evp
2018-08-20 17:14
#88
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Still REZ is above him and thats a joke...
2018-08-20 17:14
#89
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
He has 36 big event matches which i think is enough for him to compare.
2018-08-20 17:15
Cant even see what u wrote anymore XD
2018-08-20 22:22
#140
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Europe p1peb0mb 
ya bye then
2018-08-20 22:25
Btw you never answered do you think fugly is better player than dennis? Same amount of maps in big events. Fugly has better rating. both have probably 0 mvps and evps.
2018-08-20 22:26
#142
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Europe p1peb0mb 
then fulgy played better than dennis and hence better player in 2018
2018-08-20 22:27
#143
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Europe p1peb0mb 
dennis can have skill just like scream or gtr or any other player but if they are using it play well,then they are not the best player during than time.
2018-08-20 22:28
#144
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Europe p1peb0mb 
just like kennyS and other awpers now. kennyS has more skill than all awpers except guardian, but he is not a top player this year compared to them
2018-08-20 22:29
And before you said flusha is better than jw but jw has bee playing better in the past 4 months.
2018-08-20 22:33
#146
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Europe p1peb0mb 
flusha > jw in 2018 and in last 6 months. flusha form is bad in last 3 months and jw has better form. also if you take only last 3 months, then lekro is the worst player in sweden on big events. can you accept that becasue they all played only few events in last 3 months and have less data find best players.
2018-08-20 22:39
Yeah because big events and mvps are the ONLY way to rank players.
2018-08-20 22:40
#148
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Europe p1peb0mb 
they are dude but you can't use last 3 months becasue of small amout of data. lekro just played 3 maps, fnatic only played 3 events with roster changes.also last month was player break.so just 2 months of data. RR has 13 maps and their only big event maps this year. thats why you need atleast 6 months for swedish scene.
2018-08-20 22:42
Why is your way the only correct way to rank players?
2018-08-20 22:45
#151
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Europe p1peb0mb 
because its the way hltv uses to rank players. they take ratings on big events ratings and mvp /evps first. then only they take other factors like maps,k/d,assists and other things
2018-08-20 22:47
Where do they such a thing? And they pretty obviously take some liberties while making top 20 lists.
2018-08-20 22:50
#154
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Europe p1peb0mb 
like what?
2018-08-20 22:51
You will see if u just compare the stats of top 20 players or some good players outside of top 20. kennyS and Device has the same rating in 2017. kennyS has 4 MVPS more that device but device is ranked better than kennyS....
2018-08-20 22:55
#157
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-01.. device had better big event ratings but also had a lot more evps. also only 2 of kennyS mvps were big event mvps while device had 6 big event evps. static.hltv.org/images/galleries/1693-fu.. static.hltv.org/images/galleries/1693-fu..
2018-08-20 23:01
You can see from the pictures that they have same rating obviously they haven't used only big event ratings and MVP should always be more valuable than some EVP.
2018-08-20 23:05
#159
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Europe p1peb0mb 
its not some evp. evps are given to players who played similarly as good as mvp but didn't reached finals or didn't won the events.many evp players are better than mvp player on some tournaments like last major. tarik was like 8th best player on major. hltv.org/stats/players?event=3247 only petson who won mvp even when losing was s1mple. all other mvps were on event winning team.
2018-08-20 23:16
u mean the smartest csgo player alive with great aim ?
2018-08-20 16:29
#34
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
flushas aim has been anything else but great recently
2018-08-20 16:30
just because he isnt getting many kills recently doesnt mean his aim is bad its mostly because he isnt in the correct position which xizt has to work on. he often does some crazy shit and in one out of every 2-4 games he is top fragging for fnatic
2018-08-20 16:36
#49
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Well then Fnatic is in quite a trouble since flusha has been mostly on negative kills for the last 4 months.
2018-08-20 16:39
yes and fnatic hasnt been that good in the last 4 months. but right now im only talking about general skill , not ratings or rankings or achievements or any of that crap. the way a player would normally perform on fpl.
2018-08-20 16:42
#66
JW | 
Sweden bitchboy882 
Well probably f0rest and dennis perform better than him. My point has only been that u ranked flusha way too high he should be like on places 5-7.
2018-08-20 16:49
freddyfrog / relaxa??
2018-08-20 16:12
0/8
2018-08-20 16:29
#27
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Europe p1peb0mb 
in 2018 based on big event ratings,mvp/evp and number of matches played 1. krimz 2. olofmeister 3. flusha 4. rez 5. lekro 6. f0rest 7. jw 8. draken 9. hampus 10. brollan 11. twist 12. moddi 13. dennis 14. xizt 15. disco doplan
2018-08-20 16:26
#37
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Netherlands ChrisJsports 
think xizt not 14.but all ok
2018-08-20 16:33
#39
jaxi | 
Romania Snoui21 
F0rest on 6, Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2018-08-20 16:33
#45
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Europe p1peb0mb 
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. 1.05 rating along with lekro and jw. hampus,twist and brollan have better ratings than them, but those guys only played 13 big event maps.so can't put red reserve guys above.
2018-08-20 16:37
we arent talking about ratings so nt
2018-08-20 16:40
in 2018 based on big event ratings,mvp/evp and number of matches played you are clearly baiting , don't have other word for being such a delusional and retarded guy lmfao
2018-08-20 16:42
what the fuck ?
2018-08-20 16:44
You just said "we arent talking about ratings" but the guy put this before the list he made "in 2018 based on big event ratings,mvp/evp and number of matches played" like dude fuck off stop being so delusional man , so annoying.
2018-08-20 16:45
and thats what i told him after he posted that....that we arent talking about ratings or achievements or anything and he was wrong in posting stats. was i supposed to say something else? plz tell me sir ehat i have to say so i will edit my comment. thankyou my dead dumb nip fan
2018-08-20 16:49
#27 u retarded fuck
2018-08-20 17:55
he replied that list based on ratings , and i replied to him that this thread wasnt about the best players based on ratings and he was wrong in bringing u ratings here....did i say something wrong ? was i supposed to say something else? enlighten me please
2018-08-21 00:40
fucking nip 10 year old fan , fucking with my head
2018-08-21 00:41
It's his list is it hard to understand? And his list makes more common sense than yours , then he answered to other guy not you why he put f0rest in nr 6 so what are you on about. "yes and fnatic hasnt been that good in the last 4 months. but right now im only talking about general skill , not ratings or rankings or achievements or any of that crap. the way a player would normally perform on fpl." who the fuck cares about fpl? Why u rank player based on how guy plays in fpl? d0cc or whatever his name is was in fpl and destroyed everyone on the fpl , does that mean he's above everyone?
2018-08-21 00:43
JW > f0rest otherwise good
2018-08-20 16:28
0/8
2018-08-20 16:37
#41
jaxi | 
Romania Snoui21 
Only fnatic fans :( 5. JW ... 7. Lekr0 .... 11. GTR Nice top
2018-08-20 16:36
Finally some1 w/brain
2018-08-20 16:37
ignore the guy above me he is lost.. tell me why u think im wrong with jw , lekro and gtr
2018-08-20 16:40
Stating facts - lost . Ok my dude , ok :D
2018-08-20 16:44
get the fuck out of my thread mate u sound like a lost 12 y.o kiddo who is searching for his daddy and apparently thats get right. u still havent understood my post and u are spamming here like a cunt
2018-08-20 16:45
Like f0rest better but NT , you still haven't answered with something logical :D , every list that you make is very logical my friend , my friend who hasn't played cs could've made better one.
2018-08-20 17:57
#68
jaxi | 
Romania Snoui21 
Jw and lekr0 are shit players. No game sense, nothing.
2018-08-20 16:50
lekro has great aim and accuracy , but lacks gamesense but jw ? like wtf man he has good aim and his game sense is insane have u seen him in clutches
2018-08-20 16:53
if u have good aim doesn't mean you are good player , look at scream , how dog crap he is.
2018-08-20 17:58
can u stop replying mate
2018-08-21 00:30
if jw played awp more he would be number 1
2018-08-20 16:44
i think the opposite tbh
2018-08-20 16:46
ne
2018-08-20 16:47
ADMINS PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD (SERIOUSLY) FFS WTF ARE THESE NIP FANGAYS DOING HERE WTF DUDE IM DONE
2018-08-20 16:52
#72
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United States VRGcarsonqi 
I feel like the list is somehow biased towards fnatic. I'm a fan of them, but I seriously don't think that Lekr0 should be placed that high. If this was top 15 Swedish players 2017-2018, sure, but Lekr0 hasn't been in the scene for long enough to be top 15 of all time (i'm assuming you're not talking about 1.6/source). Get_right had been a force to reckon with between 2012-2015, and I honestly believe that he at least deserves top 10, and he's definitely better than Draken and Twist in terms of former achievements and dominance. At least JW is ranked high tho :D
2018-08-20 16:55
u dont get the point either , mate. im just talking about the amount of skill that a player possesses. get right was great back then but that was because of his ability to lurk , which doesnt work anymore. u dont see him go huge in any of the games or clutch around like a boss anymore , even the players who are struggling right now do that every now and then proving that they are capable of becoming a great player again e.g guys like flusha , forest etc but get right doesnt
2018-08-21 00:34
#73
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Poland SebaRost 
All Time: 1. GeT_RiGhT 2. f0rest 3. olofmeister 4. KRIMZ 5. flusha 6. JW 7. Xizt 8. draken 9. REZ 10. twist 11. Lekr0 12. znajder 13. freddieb 14. disco doplan 15. Maikelele ATM: 1. KRIMZ 2. Lekr0 3. f0rest 4. olofmeister 5. twist 6. REZ 7. draken 8. hampus 9. Brollan 10. flusha 11. JW 12. disco doplan 13. dennis 14. freddieb 15. GeT_RiGhT
2018-08-20 16:56
#74
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United States VRGcarsonqi 
Brollan and hampus and draken over JW and flusha XDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-08-20 16:59
8/8
2018-08-20 17:59
#175
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Sweden lubbev 
f0rest not top 2 all time btw 15 maikelele all time lol???? he was top player in nip when he was there
2018-08-21 16:18
Pronax 3 majors, olof/krimz 2 majors Pronax>>>>>>>>>olof/krimz
2018-08-20 17:26
Lul
2018-08-20 17:59
#110
rain | 
Denmark w00bh4Xx 
Brollan top 8 plz
2018-08-20 19:24
#116
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United States Optimus_Bait 
1. Friberg 2. f0rest 3. krimz 4. flusha 5. xizt 6. jw 7. lekr0 8. draken 9. allu 10. rez 11. olofmister 12. dennis 12. get right 13. moddii 14. maikelele 15. pyth
2018-08-20 21:41
isn't moddii dane?
2018-08-21 00:47
xizt 5th Gtr 12th hltv.org/stats/players/compare/884/Xizt/.. dfuck dude :D
2018-08-21 00:51
wtf firberg made entry fragging cool
2018-08-20 22:19
#163
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Talking about right now or about all time? If you're talking about right now I guess you may be right, I wouldn't personally rate Forest top 4, I think both dennis and jw are better, but still.
2018-08-21 00:37
overall i am fine with your list but i would put olof on 1, flusha on 2 and krimz on 3. krimz is extremely skilled and smart but flusha, even though he didn't shine recently, is slightly better imo, but in the end it's your list and your opinion. :)
2018-08-21 00:40
i think krimz never really got to shine before this year because of his role. golden utilised him well but it seems that xizt is putting him back in that support role. when u see krimz play u can tell the amout of skill + gamesense + awareness that he has. its ridiculous how he is thinking he isnt just 1 step ahead , but multiple steps ahead of his enemy. usually when he dies its bev=cause he is facing many opponents at the same time. i dont see that kind of skill in flusha or olof , even though they are really good too in different areas
2018-08-21 15:09
I understand your thinking and definitely accept and respect your opinion about this and you are totally right with what you've said about krimz, but you also need to think about the fact that flusha and olof have constantly led and carried fnatic to a crazy amount of victories in a long period of time. ofc krimz was or even is a highly underrated player, who deserves to be mentioned way more in the pro scene when it comes to the teams' star player nowadays. for me he is probably the best swedish player atm, but not overall, because he always stood in flusha's and olof's shadow back in the days due to an absolutely amazing and outstanding performance.
2018-08-21 16:13
"for me he is probably the best swedish player atm, but not overall" there is no such thing as ATM or OFF ALL TIME in this thread. a player's skill level remains almost the same throughout his career and thats what this thread is based on , the amount of skill the player possesses. players have good form or bad form depending on their roles in the team and how well everything is working out for them, not on how much skill they have at that moment , because a player always stays the same and so does his general skill. olof and krimz 2018 are the same as 2015 , they arent worse(in olof's case) or better (in krimz's case). they just have different roles so we see difference in performance. which brings me to my point even if olof and flusha overshadowed krimz , its because of their roles , but krimz has more natural talent and has higher "general skill" level. olof and flusha were given full freedom by pronax , krimz wasnt. i get your point too. i guess all 3 of these players are almost equally good and it depends on individual opinion who should be placed higher above the other
2018-08-21 17:02
Brollan?
2018-08-21 00:51
abdullah mustafason top 1
2018-08-21 16:15
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