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S1mple overrated
France Vix_NBK_FanBoy 
[HLTV Writers] Hi, i want to tell you why s1mple might be the most overrated player in competitive csgo right now. S1mple is the best player in csgo as of the time of this thread but people seem to boost him to be the best of all time. he has only had around 6 month of godtier form at the very top level, i know he had very constant results throughout his career but they were around the t2 scene and he never was on a top 5 constant team. if he has another year or 2 at this level of play i think he would go down as the greatest of all time. As for right now s1mple is around top 20 due to his form right now being so high. -Vix_NBK_Fanboy
2018-08-21 19:17
United States athiccbibba 
Pretty reasonable. S1mple is easily the best player of 2018, but he has to keep his form for maybe one more year then he will become the goat
2018-08-21 19:18
Idk. I started watching in 2016 and he wasn’t quite as good but still was top 5 player. I would say he is top 3 all time
2018-08-21 20:58
Romania themightyflea 
newfag spotted
2018-08-22 00:17
prokda is new too suggest u to not use the f word my ban becuz of it just finished
2018-08-22 01:06
BnTeT best player now
2018-08-21 22:33
ceh9 | 
Kyrgyzstan NeaRipS 
anyway can beat every one and every thing
2018-08-21 19:19
nt wannabe happy_2_major_niko_0_major
2018-08-21 19:23
2018-08-21 19:41
His alt for sure
2018-08-21 20:33
Sri Lanka khorkalba 
He may have the most insane skill ceiling of any pro player in the history of CS:GO (Shox is pretty close) but that isn't the same as being the greatest player overall. Greatest of all time: 1. Coldzera 2. Flusha 3. GTR 4. Snax 5-6. Shox/F0rest 7-9. Fallen/Device/Guardian 10-13. KennyS/Olofmeister/Krimz 14-15. S1mple/Fer
2018-08-21 19:25
forest has been decent at cs go, not a GOAT tho.
2018-08-21 19:57
Sri Lanka khorkalba 
In the early days he wasn't too far behind GTR as one of the best players in the world, and unlike GTR he's still capable of showing up with an MVP worthy performance at big tournaments. The only reason he's not competing for a top 3 of all time spot is because he's kind of a lazy player. Fun fact - he is still in the top 10 overall for stats at majors despite all of NiP's struggles. He also has the best stats of any Swedish player at big events.
2018-08-21 20:34
good,but where is NEO? F0rest is one of the best, but i agree with u
2018-08-22 02:44
United States BigPeter69 
So you’re just gonna forget Get_Right
2018-08-21 20:23
Sri Lanka khorkalba 
GTR = Get_RIght
2018-08-21 20:28
somebody | 
Myanmar xdcc 
GTR = Nissan = Joshua "Steel" Nissan
2018-08-22 02:33
United States BigPeter69 
Lol didn’t see it I’m retard
2018-08-23 02:35
s1mple/fer hahaaha
2018-08-21 20:46
France Baitor 
this guy has no idea how math works LOL "10-13. KennyS/Olofmeister/Krimz" 10-13, names 3 players
2018-08-21 21:16
Sri Lanka khorkalba 
You're just mad because your favorite player didn't make it into the top 10..
2018-08-21 21:41
10-11-12-13 is 4 numbers,not 3
2018-08-21 22:25
France Baitor 
lmao he can't count bro
2018-08-22 04:16
somebody | 
Myanmar xdcc 
10-13 = -3 quick maffs
2018-08-22 02:47
Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Coldzera doesn’t deserve top 1 in this list. Olofmeister, Flusha, Guardian and GTR all deserve it more.
2018-08-22 07:38
Sri Lanka khorkalba 
- Only player to be back-to-back major MVP - Only player to be #1 on HLTV end of year rankings for two years in a row Anyone who says he doesn't deserve it is just biased, like all the idiots who say device isn't a good player just because they don't like him.
2018-08-22 08:23
GTR also 2 years in a row?
2018-08-22 08:29
Sri Lanka khorkalba 
Nope. He stole it from Flusha in 2014, so that doesn't count.
2018-08-22 18:12
2018-08-23 01:03
No matter your opinion it will always count . Dont mention peoples biases if you cant even be unbiased yourself.
2018-08-23 01:06
NEO | 
Poland scrmgr 
2018-08-22 08:35
Sri Lanka khorkalba 
You probably weren't even born when I started getting into esports..
2018-08-22 18:14
Ukraine Pham_ 
s1mple will be #15 this year at max, agree?
2018-08-21 19:27
yes most likely
2018-08-21 19:41
even styko is better
2018-08-21 19:43
2018-08-21 19:43
hunden or ocean would easily fuck him 1v1
2018-08-21 19:44
United States fatburger 
I 16-0d simple in game no scam
2018-08-21 21:13
France Baitor 
solek > s1mple
2018-08-21 21:16
device | 
Denmark CaraX_ 
I aren’t Think that
2018-08-22 07:04
full of bs
2018-08-21 19:30
S1mple isn't greatest of all time. Only retarded fans or trolls will tell you that, t2? You don't seem to watch navi matches I guess. He has performed against best of the teams and proved why he is best in the world right now. Dude lol if you're talking about csgo GOATs I'm really curious to know about 19 GOATs if s1mple is 20? He is atleast top 10 in the list of GOATs Even I was a s1mple hater I would say the same bc you can't ignore how dominant player he has become :D
2018-08-21 19:39
hes dominate af but its only been for 6 months
2018-08-21 19:42
And device has higher rating in past three months.
2018-08-21 19:45
And during whole year thus far s1mple has better rating and other stats as well :) Objectively, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-22 07:26
And device has played only t1 games this yaer :)
2018-08-22 13:25
And s1mple got more MVPs (got one even when he lost in the final while your AIDS victim couldn’t get one when he won LMAO), better stats, wins tournaments (didn’t happen last year), more superior than eco- and exitfragger people know as device. But you can keep cherry-picking stats (like device had a better rating for 2 weeks, he is top1 LMAO) to fit your narrative :) Objectively, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-22 15:56
Yes he got mvps from t2 tourneys. When device gets major mvp and some other mvps, you can see him top1 this year.
2018-08-22 17:20
Thanks for confirming that Cologne was t2 win and thus Asstralis is t3 at best. Thanks for admitting that :) Major MVP? When he will choke in big games (SF and F)? Respectfully, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-22 21:08
He's been very dominating for 6 months. But he's been very good before as well you can see his hltv 2017 rank despite not winning anything significant.
2018-08-21 19:53
ya hes very good, but won so little
2018-08-21 19:54
There we go for achievement talks, I thought we were talking about individual performance.
2018-08-21 20:30
im talking about him being the GOAT which includes achievements
2018-08-21 20:32
yeah hahaha you so funny
2018-08-21 20:47
Michael Jordan and Brian Kobe are also not GOATS? Cuz they have less achievements than some other players? pronax 3 Majors > all?
2018-08-22 08:02
you know thats not what i ment but s1mple has almost no big wins
2018-08-22 08:04
He just won Cologne and 3 events in a row LOL and he was 2nd and 3rd on Majors... He has a lot of achievements to be considered as a GOAT.
2018-08-22 08:04
not rly olof has 2 majors and 1 mvp and was a god dur 2014-before wrist injury 2016 he has to win majors
2018-08-22 08:06
Other nt_try 
2018-08-21 19:41
Europe xSKYY 
s1mple best 2018 if major turns good for him
2018-08-21 19:42
watch simple in 2017 when zeus joined. he was hard carrying them but you have no idea because you are ********
2018-08-21 19:46
So nearly one year of being insane means your the best ever i think your the retarded one
2018-08-22 03:18
should be 10 years of csgo and 50 years of cs 1.6 right? you know how short cs careers are? probably not.
2018-08-22 19:37
North America AlanSmith 
s1mple is pretty overated i mean many people think he is the best player ever lol
2018-08-21 19:48
Keep baiting, irrelevant NiP fangirl. Sincerely, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-22 08:50
North America AlanSmith 
i'm not baiting lol
2018-08-22 12:35
S1mple is the most underrated player in csgo history, the reason is because there are still idiots who refuse to accept him as the best player of all time.
2018-08-21 19:58
because hes not....sorry bud
2018-08-21 20:01
s1mple | 
Portugal Dr_10 
2018-08-21 20:32
+1 !
2018-08-22 08:00
s1mple | 
Turkey solfex 
who is saying he is best ever? no one. he is maybe the most skillful player of all time. but not the best overall ever. yet he is best of 2018 tho.
2018-08-21 20:04
United States fatburger 
Literally even look at the comment right above you they are saying he’s best in the world.
2018-08-21 21:15
Myanmar AstralisGoat 
s1mple is around 13-15 rank all time in CS Go far from the GOAT, but yes he is top 1 this year at the current moment but ofc Device can claim that there is still lots of time to play this year, lots of big events, lots of potential wins for Astralis and potential MVP awards for Device. If Astralis win the major and Device wins the MVP I think that alone will be enough to claim top 1 rank but we have to wait and see, HLTV cares more about MVP of the biggest events in the world like e league premier and the major coming up more than MVPs of tier 2 Russian and Asian events no one gives a fuck about. Also just to mention I think he has the most toxic braindead fanboys I've ever seen in any eSport.
2018-08-21 20:11
2 russian tier 2 events he was mvp at sltv s4 with faze and astralis, sltv s5 cuz astralis and faze decilned he had 1.52 rating at DH with astalis and faze device is exit fragger, this guy can't even flick major mvp and device best in 2k18 ahahah you kidding
2018-08-21 20:51
Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Have you even looked in Device stats lmao exit fragger are you deluded? He's literally 2nd in every important stat in the fucking game, can't even flick? I get it you think playing flashy is better than playing properly and that's why Astralis is on top and other teams are sucking up crumbs they left over. All Device needs is a MVP of something like a major and win this major and he's top 1 this year without question, another MVP if he really wants to spread the gap, his stats are too insane top 2 in every important stats, plays way less than s1mple as well so for me that's impressive. s1mple literally plays the most FPL out of any tier 1 pro out there and it's not even remotely close, he's a no lifer on this game, Device is playing less than half of his hours and is comparable in every stat, this isn't a real debate lots of time left this year for him to over take s1mple people think top 1 is only for 6 months of the year no motherfucker top 1 goes to the beast that dominates the entire year. Device right now is easily top 2 statistically and is more successful than s1mple is but at the end of the day HLTV only rating on pure stats, doesn't give a shit if they were against lower teams and in worse events, so all he has to do is get a big MVP award and that will cancel out the 2 tier 2 MVPs s1mple has alone and they will be then tied for big event MVPs and Astralis will have more titles in the biggest events. Kind of like Ronaldo vs Messi, Messi has better raw stats, Ronaldo has better stats in International and Champions League so whats more important stats from BBVA or Stats from the biggest events? I mean none is even comparing the 2 anymore cause it's clear as fuck Ronaldo is better, he doesn't have to have the most goals and assists the point is he performs in the shit that matters and Messi hasn't been doing that for years now.
2018-08-22 05:39
“top 1 goes to the beast that dominates the entire year. ” Yep, and that’s s1mple. You can keep picking the right stat for your exit fragger like: “omg he had the best rating, more clutches for like 2 weeks of July, omg he is top1 for sure” LMAO. And Messi is better than Ronaldo on all-time lists. You must be a really clueless and brain dead CR7 fangirl to keep telling that shit to yourself. Respectfully, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-22 07:35
Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Device has a higher LAN rating last 3 months, you're an idiot, you're a Messi fanboy who doesn't know shit about football, this "argument" is basically over.
2018-08-22 09:08
S1mple has better stats, ratings, LAN ratings this whole year, not some random period which fits your narrative. And you’re a CR7 fangirl. Look, your idol couldn’t win treble at least once and ran away to Juve to have a slight chance to win it lmao. Btw I’m still waiting when CR7 will play in a WC QF (not even speaking about SF and F). Messi better stats, better achievements, better overall. Respectfully, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-22 12:40
Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Well tbf s1mple has been top 1 for 6 months and of this 6 months Device has been better than him for 3 months of it, so if you think that makes him the most dominant player you're dumb as fuck, no point to continue this discussion, men and women lie, #s don't.
2018-08-22 18:53
And device has got the most deluded fangirls I’ve ever seen not only in Esports. Respectfully, Proud Faze Fan since 1999.
2018-08-22 07:30
No other player in cs history has even gotten close to beating simple in terms of pure skill. As of right now he is the only tier 1 player on his team besides electronic. Other dominant teams like Astralis and Fnatic have always had almost all of there players playing at a tier 1 level but on NaVi simple and electronic are the only tier 1 players on the team and the rest are average or garbage
2018-08-21 20:14
s1mple | 
Portugal Dr_10 
2018-08-21 20:32
give me something which prove your point,
2018-08-21 20:36
Watch counter-strike...
2018-08-21 20:41
LOL nice proof
2018-08-21 20:43
Literally, just watch him play. That's all I'm saying. He has better aim snapping than anyone you would fine. You can tell me to go further into proving it, but I want to know who you think is better aim-wise.
2018-08-21 20:44
dupreeh, device, coldzera >>>>> s1mple
2018-08-21 20:46
nt 0/8
2018-08-21 20:52
Device is a fundamentally perfected awper who can hold back and rock the big green gun better than almost everyone. Dupreeh is a better player to mention, but I see S1mple's aim better but hey I'm just paying attention. And back to Dev1ce, S1mple can awp AND rifle AND eco frag. Coldzera was a fragging icon because of his positioning being better than nearly everyone else, not his aim being better. Also, it didn't matter who S1mple played, he still would drop more kills than everyone in nearly every game. But I like how you mentioned dupreeh, because he is one of the most skilled aimers out there. However, kills have to add up to be stronger than S1mple. I can't see any pro running into a gunfight against S1mple and seeing them win that fight more times than the Ukrainian lad.
2018-08-21 20:55
Italy steven513 
LUL, even though I'm a coldzera fan, its evident that s1mple is fucking insane.
2018-08-21 21:01
proof ?
2018-08-21 21:01
Italy steven513 
Where's proof that he's "overrated"?
2018-08-21 21:07
cuz there's no proof that he's the "better player in terms of pure skill"
2018-08-21 21:08
2018-08-22 01:09
Here's some proof go look at all of the other "best aimer/shot" contenders and look at their all time adr. And don't say nade damage makes this irrelevant, because every "best aimer" contestant isn't known for their crazy frag usage aside form Astralis players.
2018-08-21 22:21
Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Zeus is very clearly a T1 IGL right now, and has been since 2014. Only Gla1ve tops him right now.
2018-08-22 07:42
2018-08-22 07:59
he is overrated and not even close of be the best player of cs history. He is not even consistent.
2018-08-21 20:35
Australia AU_CS_LUL 
2018-08-22 07:43
Okay, well first of all, he was argued as the best in 2017 by some (I might support the argument myself), in a three way debate between NiKo, Coldzera, and our Ukrainian boy. He was given the respect as being a super talent player in 2016 as well. Okay, aside from the points I can toss in, who would you put ahead of him?
2018-08-21 20:38
6 months? He started playing like this right after guardian left navi and thats 1 year ago. And he was very good since late 2015. He was even relevant in 2014 but people seem to forget his time in HR.
2018-08-21 21:09
yeah he was star of HR lol, people seem to forgot that.
2018-08-21 21:18
remember, the average fan is dumb or they just started to pay attention. If you are an older fan, you're likely to say olof or Get_Right is a goat. If you weren't the greatest observer then KennyS was your goat or Shox. If you paid attention 2016 then it's NiKo or Fallen or Cold or Dev1ce. Now, with newer people paying attention to cs, S1mple is #1 rn and they disregard his past. Make what you want out of that.
2018-08-21 22:17
...that's my point
2018-08-21 22:14
I know i meant to post to OP
2018-08-22 02:28
2018-08-21 21:10
Israel soprendo 
He took an NA team to a major final, when NA never even qualified for a major - Thorin
2018-08-21 21:28
that team was not dogshit, but they would have never done that in any of other era of csgo, and they got stomped in said final
2018-08-22 00:19
United States small__dude 
s1mple is a top 5 player of all time, hes been a god for 4 years now
2018-08-21 22:20
Portugal Atruemaster 
stfu u fuckin idiot
2018-08-21 22:26
s1mple | 
Portugal Dr_10 
2018-08-22 00:08
allu | 
Belgium AlecZZzz 
> French speak about CSGO >S1mple is overated. Find the fake news
2018-08-22 00:10
that.....doesnt even make sense
2018-08-22 00:18
Shh, look at the flag. We shouldn't make fun of people who have issues.
2018-08-22 02:53
true...he only has ScreaM...must suck
2018-08-22 02:57
:/ Reply needs to have actual content
2018-08-22 06:57
sowwy :(
2018-08-22 06:58
It’s the truth my friend tbh, I’m so happy that Ex6TenZ’s is on a actually relevant tier 1 team...
2018-08-22 06:59
wait....i forgot you had him lmao always assumed he was french
2018-08-22 07:00
Well that’s a shame
2018-08-22 07:01
so nm yall have the 3rd best igl of all time
2018-08-22 07:01
Now you make me happy!
2018-08-22 07:04
allu | 
Belgium AlecZZzz 
Davidp in 3DMAX NOPE ? cya bot
2018-08-26 14:23
2018-08-22 01:02
s1mple skill > any other players skill. no player in the past was even close to s1mple thats why he is goat easily (no, shox peak was not close to s1mple, nor was kennys or get right)
2018-08-22 03:07
kennys was was gtr, s1mple has 3rd best imo
2018-08-22 07:03
> "kennys was higher" no he was not. check S1mple's LAN rating for 3 years in a row. kennyS is nowhere near S1mple/
2018-08-22 07:59
he said peak bruh, and kennys is historically better
2018-08-22 08:00
no one can beats S1mple's Peak against mouz on mirage... 90 bombs in bo3. S1mple's peak >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other player in history of both 1.6 and GO.
2018-08-22 08:01
1 map doesnt define somones peak and yes kennys markeloff neo gtr forest olof gtr have had better peaks
2018-08-22 08:02
S1mple beats any peak of pro player if you argue with that you must be really clueless... Because stats proves everything. S1mple > markeloff, Neo, GTR, kennYS (statistics)
2018-08-22 08:04
stats arent everything but yes s1mple is very higher up there
2018-08-22 08:04
2018-08-22 07:58
s1mple was also god tier all of 2017, same rating as coldzera. Was just stuck in a bad team
2018-08-22 03:29
and all 2016
2018-08-22 07:58
/u/ Vix_NBK_FanBoy Overrated retard fanboy (who is racist btw) GET REKT LMAO!
2018-08-22 07:03
Finland FlabbyL 
S1mple has been godtier pretty much his whole csgo career. Although he had personality issues in the past no one can say he hasn't been amazing since f3 2015 He's easily at the highest level anyone has ever been (titan kennys is close maybe) in cs go.
2018-08-22 07:34
+123123123123123132 this ^^^^^
2018-08-22 07:58
Canada flame7 
no one has ever dominated the scene so hard before him... that's why so many people consider him the GOAT. I get your point but even coldzera wasn't so dominant as s1mple is right now. every game I watch him play he makes at least one jaw dropping play, and thats a shitty game for him
2018-08-22 07:34
+1 agree. Not to mention he does good each team hes been on. Teammates dont make him, unlike coldzera.
2018-08-22 07:43
+111 most overrated toxicity
2018-08-22 07:53
S1mple is playing like a GOD since 2015...
2018-08-22 07:58
Coldzera most overrated tho
2018-08-22 08:30
0/8 bad bait froggo
2018-08-22 08:42
2018-08-22 08:45
I agree with you mr Vix_NBK_FanBoy
2018-08-23 02:37
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